Ain't I A Person?

So I was reading the discussion about the Rick Warren benediction pick and also an article about the Christian Reconstructionist ideals of gender and these bits jumped out at me:

Vision Forum's product line includes the Beautiful Girlhood Collection, which, "aspires, by the grace of God, to the rebuilding of a culture of virtuous womanhood. In a world that frowns on femininity, that minimizes motherhood, and that belittles the beauty of being a true woman of God, we dare to believe that the biblical vision for girlhood is a glorious vision."

- Frederick Clarkson writing about the Christian Reconstructionist vision of proper gender roles.

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"I'm opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage."

- Pastor Rick Warren, 2008

Both reminded me of a quote that largely defines feminism and gender issues for me:

... That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman? ...

- Sojourner Truth, 1851

It was not that long ago when the blogosphere and much of the political establishment was ablaze with talk of how wrong and divisive it was to claim that certain groups of the citizenry were "real" Americans. If the class of all people who are American citizens contains a smaller subset defined as real Americans, the people outside that subset are ... wrong? anti-? inauthentic? fallen? rejected? cast out? disowned? excommunicated? imaginary? fake? What? What, we all wanted to know, (though of course we already knew,) did they mean by that?

Right wing religionists have a very particular view of what constitutes a real person, but more precisely, a real man or woman. From those definitions, ones that all of us more or less understand, follow the views of what constitutes a real relationship.

A "real" man is in control, of something at least. He is not given to womanly displays of emotion, which implies being governed by logic, but actually means giving oneself over to jealousy, easily bruised pride, a will to dominate, and disgust towards those who would live otherwise. It begets a constant need to defend one's prerogatives in a role-based hierarchy that assigns people value based on their fulfillment of certain parts in a nonstop morality play existence.

A "real" woman is delicate, dammit! She understands herself to be the rightful property of a man, an adornment and accessory for his life, and her emotions don't matter at all so long as every conversation ends in, "Yes, dear." She is structurally, perpetually, a child. Albeit a child that it's all right to have sex with and employ as an unpaid domestic. Think about this every time one of the wingnuts compares a consensual, adult relationship between two men or two women to pedophilia and consider yourself encouraged to grimace disapprovingly at said wingnut.

These definitions of "real" manhood and womanhood take subsets of men and women as being exclusively worthy and leave everyone else out in the cold. The types of relationships that these real men and women are supposed to have are then taken as the definitive "real" relationship.

In A Relationship

For public consumption, they say that a real marriage is a man and a woman. They neglect to add, though they might as well ... with God as the Head of the Man, and the Man as the Head of the woman. Man is to woman as God is to Man. "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." - Genesis 3:16

Man rules over woman and gives her children. This is the foundation of the world as they, people I might call strict Biblical constructionists, know it.

A lesbian or a gay man who wants to have a relationship based on romantic love has abdicated their place. A woman who wants to make her own choice about when to have a child, any choice at all, has abdicated her place as helpmeet to the male Creator. A man who has no desire to rule over anyone, who has no will to dominate, has abdicated his place as an avatar of the godhead. These are unpeople to the far religious Right. A relationship between any of these traitors to the alleged rightful order offends the Reconstructionist because that relationship proves the falsity of saying that such an order is a natural law akin to gravity.

The law of gravity, as Robert Anton Wilson was fond of noting, cannot be broken.

And so for Obama to give a place of pride at the inaugural address to someone whose narrow, religiously unrepresentative worldview includes particulars on whether I'm a real woman makes me angry. That's what anti-gay bigotry is founded on - a belief in a subset of male and female behavior that's elevated to the one and only path to being a real and acceptable man or woman. It isn't enough to give up one part of this hurtful and false belief, it must be done away with entirely because the preservation of one part spontaneously regenerates traces of the rest of it with grim predictability.

Elimination Games

The claim that opposition to gay marriage isn't homophobia is false on its face and would be laughable if it weren't the case that it creates an atmosphere of violence towards gender traitors and uppity women identical to the atmosphere of violence against non-Whites created by Nativist rantings about "real" Americans. It perpetuates tolerance of rape and domestic violence as trivial and lesser crimes, property crimes, because the inseparable foundation stone of that worldview is the subordination of women to the rulership of men.

A belief in "real" gender roles, as a social construct added to the bare facts of biology, should be understood as the eliminationist rhetoric that it is. It should be as utterly rejected as any other hate speech.

You can't pick and choose. You can renounce hierarchies that value people based on authoritarian gender roles or you can consent to them. The choice about what these things mean in concert with each other was made before any of us was born and has been steadily reinforced by the 'divide and conquer' motivation of power hungry people like Rick Warren, James Dobson and George W. Bush.

People are cruel to each other when it advantages them. It's not new. It wasn't even new when these things were true:

... If this country hadn't re-defined marriage, black people still couldn't marry white people. Sixteen states had laws on the books which made that illegal... in 1967. 1967.

The parents of the President-Elect of the United States couldn't have married in nearly one third of the states of the country their son grew up to lead. But it's worse than that. If this country had not "re-defined" marriage, some black people still couldn't marry...black people. It is one of the most overlooked and cruelest parts of our sad story of slavery. Marriages were not legally recognized, if the people were slaves. Since slaves were property, they could not legally be husband and wife, or mother and child. Their marriage vows were different: not "Until Death, Do You Part," but "Until Death or Distance, Do You Part." Marriages among slaves were not legally recognized. ...

- Keith Olbermann, 2008

Marriage was denied to people with African ancestry once upon a time because it quieted the consciences of their oppressors with the idea that they were just animals. Something had to be believed about them that made them lesser creatures, livestock, property. They could not be recognized as having an impulse to love and form a family of their choice with the partner they wanted, just as choice in marriage was long denied to women for whom such decisions could simply be made without their consent.

We humans want to think well of ourselves, to think we're kind. Every oppression invents a version of 'she was asking for it' or 'he can't handle it' or 'they're not real thus-and-such' to allow its myriad enforcers to feel good about themselves anyway.

The impulse to decide in love is the right of the real person, the real adult, and in the Reconstructionist's world it is the reserved right of only a straight man and the woman who submits to his rule. Pardon me, headship. Just as once, it was the right only of a White man.

So this enforcement of less than full adult human status, again, must be rejected entirely by those who wish to set themselves free of its consequences. It is not fitting for people who claim to believe in the dignity of every person to perpetuate subjugation or smile on those who would bless it. It is not fitting to say you support some kinds of social justice while reserving your privilege to treat an entire class of people as lesser beings.

People are often cruel to each other. It's not new. I hope it's not also too soon to hope that this can change.



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Re: Ain't I A Person? (none / 0)

nice diary.  sometimes i find your work a little heavy-handed, but i think you raise some good points here.  

something i find interesting is that much is made by feminists about the infantilizing effect of patriarchy on women.  valid points certainly, but i really don't think enough is said about its infantilizing effect on men!  

i mean, even in a strictly backwards gender-rigid marriage, women are still expected to raise the children.  that takes smarts, and maybe most importantly, pragmatism.  but men are just supposed to "bring home the bacon".  this prerogative has dramatically fewer ingrained paths towards "adultness" or complex thought.  there are many many ways to make money that require absolutely no social skills, complex thought, or values.  therefore, under rigid gender roles, while women have to "grow up" so that they can care for their children when they are helpless, men can basically remain children their entire lives as long as they make money (somehow) and fuck their wives.

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by bluedavid on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:13:37 PM EST

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What?  I've read your post twice and can't reach a conclusion about what it actually says.


by slynch on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 12:16:00 AM EST
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It appears to me (I suppose I could (none / 0)

be incorrect) that he's saying men who "bring home the bacon" via menial jobs - a ditch digger, let's say - are boys who fuck women.


by aggieric on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 09:01:40 AM EST
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if you ever want your head to explode (2.00 / 1)

Check out some of the Christian conservative blogs written by women who believe in male headship. Ladies Against Feminism is one of the biggies. I'm always amused by their literalist readings of Old Testament passages that are so different from contemporary Jewish readings.

Not to detract from the points you are making, but I thought I read somewhere that the famous passage attributed to Sojourner Truth was apocryphal. Am I wrong about that?


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by desmoinesdem on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:14:36 PM EST

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You're so right in your first paragraph


by slynch on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 12:18:08 AM EST
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Nearly all religions are awful when you examine the fine print. The only decent faiths take a lot of liberty with the religious texts.

Sadly, our corporate media holds up "middle american" bigots like Rick Warren as the core of America. I don't know if it is a mistake to reach out to them or not. But there are enough of them that they can't be ignored, our only hope is of changing their minds.


by Lolis on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:16:19 PM EST

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I don't agree. I don't think that religions are awful no matter how closely a person looks. It's the people who are awful.

Religions are traditions, they are stories and tales and ways of being. I'm a non-believer myself, but am facinated by and infatuated with religion.

What I find the most sad about modern fundamentalist Christians though, is that often the words of Jesus himself are meaningless to them. What a radical man of ideas he was. How radical are his ideas still.

I'm not offended by the pick of Rev. Warren for the invocation however. I am gay and I support gay marriage -- some gays don't, so I feel I have to state that explicitly. I am a woman and I am pro-choice as well.

But I do get Obama's point that you need to be able to disagree agreeably. And I get it that there are areas where Rev. Warren is in agreement with the policies that Obama will be pursueing. In the areas of environment and health. Why not bring Rev. Warren and his supporters on side for those issues? Why not show that it's OK that we don't agree on everything, but we do agree on some things and let's work together on those? We need to show conservatives that it's OK to be environmentalists, that it's OK to support funding to fight AIDS, that it's OK to support universal health care, etc. We can't completely dismiss someone because they disagree on most things. We might be able to work with that person on something else.


by carrieboberry on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 07:55:10 AM EST
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we dare to believe that the biblical vision for girlhood is a glorious vision."

Which vision would that be, Rick?  The one where the female warrior Jael pounds a nail through General Sisera's head, after Prophet Ruth made him flee the battlefield?  Or the one where Judith cuts off General Holfernes' head with the help of her handmaiden?  How about the prostitute Rehab? Or Tamar, who dressed up like a prostitute so she could seduce her father-in-law?
C'mon, Rick, help us out here.


by Blue Jean on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:19:29 PM EST

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"I'm opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage."

Am I wrong, or can you not find examples of each of these things in the Bible?


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by Steve M on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:27:02 PM EST

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Seriously, has he even read the Bible?
by sneakers563 on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 11:07:23 PM EST
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I don't know about brother and sister, but quite possibly.  Older guy marrying a child?  Surely.  One man having several wives?  All over the Old Testament.  Solomon had 300 wives, and an additional 700 concubines.

Not to mention, any definition of marriage that encompasses all major cultures over the past 5000 years includes all of the above.  What paternalistic culture hasn't had child brides?  That happens in some places even now, I believe.  The Latter-Day Saints practiced polygamy here in America for most of the 19th Century.  And it hasn't been any 5000 years since brother-sister marriages were normal behavior among Egyptian royalty.

The guy's either an idiot or a liar, or both.


by RT on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 06:16:56 AM EST
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Actually, I can't think of any child marriages up through Prophets (which is as far as I've read; I'm working on Writings).  While women may have been getting married at age 14 (I'm just pulling this number out of my ass), this would have not been considered a child at the time.  But it's not like the Bible explicitly condemns it, either.

Abraham married his sister -- half-sister, actually, but he did it.  And in any case, I don't think Rick Warren could have any case at all in saying that "marriage" CAN'T be between brother and sister.  It CAN; it would just be undesirable for him.  That has nothing to do with definitions of words.  Marriage is a particular kind of union, with no restriction on whom it unites; society imposes the restrictions on who gets to marry, not the word itself.  It's a stupid argument anyway.

And finally, Rick Warren is a total idiot.  Really, one man and multiple women isn't marriage?  Well, it's true -- it's several marriages.  Who said marriage has to be exclusive?  Answer: NOT JACOB.  We have three Patriarchs -- Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- and four Matriarchs -- Sarah, Rebeccah, Rachel, and Leah.  Something doesn't match up here!  That's because Jacob had TWO WIVES.  Jacob, the main progenitor of Israel, whose name was also Israel anyway, had two wives.  And this doesn't begin to consider all of the wives the kings of Israel had.  David had several sons by different wives, and he was the ideal, righteous king!  (Solomon had his faults, so perhaps one could read his 1000 sexual partners as one of those faults.)  Sorry to tell you, Rick, but, uh, the 5,000-year-old definition argument is incredibly stupid.


by mauro7inf on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 07:32:18 AM EST
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No. You are wrong.

Abraham simply married that many times.
To be married once, according to that 5,000 year old tradition - is to be married as a man, to a woman. Life expectancy of 40 years, getting you down? Ok, then ! Marry when you're 15! but its still marriage between one man and one woman.


by Trey Rentz on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 04:18:40 PM EST
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Well, presumably Adam and Eve's children would have had to shack up with each other.


by Dreorg on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 08:42:35 AM EST
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So true! (none / 0)

Natasha, that post was the bomb!  I loved the quote from Sojourner Truth. CLASSIC.


by nzubechukwu on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 09:33:36 PM EST

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This is great. I've been finding it a bit odd that so many in the blogosphere have separated out the gay marriage issue from Warren's stances on abortion, when it strikes me that the issues are very much related.


by sb on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 08:38:16 AM EST

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I always enjoy your diaries,  Natasha, even when I disagree with them.  As always, thanks.


by Dreorg on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 01:57:54 PM EST

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This is a really great diary. I enjoyed reading it.


by Quinton on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 02:26:44 PM EST

Some issues with this post (none / 0)

Sorry, but there are some serious issues with this post. First, you're saying that  opposition to gay marriage is homophobia.

You cited this by stating the following:


The claim that opposition to gay marriage isn't homophobia is false on its face and would be laughable if it weren't the case that it creates an atmosphere of violence towards gender traitors

There are no facts or statistics to support this claim.  It is simply a false statement.

A majority of Californians - that progressive state - voted against gay marriage a few months ago. People who are into art, surfing, smoothies and software design.  They decided , sorry, I don't want to have this legal environment where everyone is going nuts trying to get married in our state.  They decided, essentially, its a federal issue - if that, and they don't want gay marriage in their state. Ok, fine. So they're homophobic? You're going to label the entire state of California homophobic?

And now, that California has gone on the record opposing it, has violence gone up against gay people in San Francisco, Ca. - are you saying that violence against gays is on the rise?

Sorry. Gays are not getting beaten up just because the vote on Prop 8 went down against  the GLBT.  Gay people are not hated in California.
They're loved. And the whole social activist drive to get married there is shut down. Big deal. Life goes on.
 


by Trey Rentz on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 03:45:00 PM EST

PS Correct me if I'm wrong (none / 0)

Please correct me if this is wrong. If your statements are correct, then there will be an uptick in the violence against gay people. Let me know if that is the case. I don't have the latest statistics, so please correct me if I'm wrong.


by Trey Rentz on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 03:47:11 PM EST
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I've no knowledge relating to the increase in violence part so I won't comment on that.

I will say though there's no reason for anyone to be against marriage equality other than bigotry. The same as there was no other reason than bigotry to be against inter-racial marriage or the right to vote for african-americans, the poor, or women in the past.


by Quinton on Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 06:03:19 PM EST
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