MN-Sen: Day 2 Of Challenged Ballot Review Underway

As the MN canvassing board met at 9:15am this morning for the second day of review of the challenged ballots in the Minnesota Senate recount, they had in the vicinity of 230 Franken challenges left to review before moving on to the 1,000 or so Coleman challenges (which Team Coleman actually increased by 200 or so late yesterday much to the canvassing board's dismay.)

As of this posting, the board has reviewed a total of 292 ballots, 171 of which have gone to Coleman, 41 of which have gone to Franken and 78 of which have gone to neither. This is a particularly bad result for Coleman considering the bulk of the ballots being reviewed are Franken challenges and thus more likely to go to Coleman than to Franken.

In what appears to be a real time tally, The Minneapolis Star Tribune currently has Coleman's lead at 313 votes but projects Franken to be ahead by the end of the canvassing board's review by 223 votes.

You can watch The Uptake's live feed of the canvassing board meeting below:

Update [2008-12-17 12:49:37 by Todd Beeton]:More in the diaries from Hoomai29 and Jeff Rosenberg.

Update [2008-12-17 13:48:19 by Todd Beeton]:At a press conference, MN SOS Mark Ritchie expressed his confidence that they are now working at the pace that they need to in order to be done by Friday night. He also hopes that more challenges will be withdrawn. The Star Tribune currently has Coleman's lead at 328. Their ballot challenge projection has Franken up by 244.

Update [2008-12-17 14:12:25 by Todd Beeton]:The MN Supreme Court is now hearing Norm Coleman's claim that the rejected absentee ballots should not be included. The canvassing board will reconvene at 2pm local time.

Update [2008-12-17 15:32:45 by Todd Beeton]:The canvassing board has returned to reviewing challenges. Watching the livestream is actually really interesting, especially since you can sort of play along at home. In the last 5 minutes, Franken has been on a roll having won several votes that were originally named overvotes but which the canvassing board has, I think rightfully, determined the will of the voters as in favor of Franken. After 344 ballots reviewed, Coleman has netted 194 votes and Franken has netted 51.



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Is it just me (none / 0)

or could Al Franken do a knock-up Sec. of State Ritchie impersonation?


by linc on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:27:37 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 (2.00 / 1)

I have a nonsexual man-crush on Mark.


Howard Dean is my go-to guy
by lojasmo on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:38:59 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 Of Challenged Ballot Review (2.00 / 2)

I have to join others in complimenting the impressively transparent nature of this process.

Most of these decisions seem to be non-controversial and come down to simple common sense.  But it makes a big difference that it's taking place out in the open where everyone can make their own judgment.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:39:24 PM EST

Don't know how it will turn out but... (none / 0)

I bet you the MN Supreme Court is the only one in the country with a former NFL MVP in its membership


by SaveElmer on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:53:49 PM EST

Bwa? (none / 0)

I live in MN, but I haven't heard this one.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:56:01 PM EST
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Alan Page (none / 0)

Former Minnesota Viking great and the first defensive player to win the NFL MVP award in 1971.

He went to law school in the offseason and Bud Grant would let him show up a bit late to training camp...

It is known he has DFL sympathies but never could get him to run for anything else...


by SaveElmer on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:00:13 PM EST
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Ah, interesting (none / 0)

So Ventura wasn't our only tough guy public official. :)


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:06:33 PM EST
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Re: Ah, interesting (none / 0)

Oh I bet Page could take out Jesse in about 3 seconds...


by SaveElmer on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:09:24 PM EST
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Oh I don't care (none / 0)

I'd pay to see that bout regardless of the outcome.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:18:26 PM EST
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Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 Of Challenged Ballot Review (none / 0)

I have to admit... this is oddly fascinating.

The issue of whether or not you can determine a duplicate on its face, combined with "can we decide it's duplicate if it's not?" is the driest possible litigation, but it's an interesting ethical discussion:

Is it better to count all the ballots, even if there may be duplicates, or is it better to omit the "most likely" duplicates, even if you're not sure they're duplicates?


by TCQuad on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:19:42 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 Of Challenged Ballot Review (none / 0)

"No one anticipated this-"

"All the professionals and everyone anticipated this."

Yowch.

Hysterically funny, I like that guy, Mark (water bottle blocking last name on name tag).


by TCQuad on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:24:03 PM EST
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Re: Netting (none / 0)

item 1)

To "net" a sum means to 'gain more than'

ie,

the net of Coleman with 100 and Franken with 50 is a "net" of Coleman for 50.

It's really confusing when you say Coleman netted X, and Franken netted Y, when really you mean [Person] netted [X-Y]

item 2)
There's a bug of some sort related to this embedded flash and both FF 2 and 3 which is causing FF2 to crash consistently, FF3 sometimes.  Just a random note.

also, go go Al!


by mrrar on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:30:44 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 Of Challenged Ballot Review Unde (none / 0)

What a mess! Now they are talking about counting original or duplicates and double counting?


by obama4presidente on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:36:39 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Day 2 (none / 0)

"This is interesting"

"No it isn't"

"Can we make sure we're talking about the same ballot?"


Howard Dean is my go-to guy
by lojasmo on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 11:18:21 AM EST


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