my god what a pathetic roster.

Poor Mitt.

No matter how much he spends, he can't be the front runner.

we need to tell our republican friends she is perfect - perfect to destroy them and they don't even know it!

"Fool Me Once, Shame on.... Shame on You. Fool Me Twice... Fool Me - Can't Get Fooled Again"

-W

This proves it - 69% of Republican's are dumb as a post

this is very good news for repu....   bwahahahahahaha  I can't say it without laughing... I just can't.

Only one on that list that might get both the corporate and fundie bases together is Jindal.

Newsweek has a long kind of gossipy series of essays on the campaign, kind to both candidates but with some very funny stuff about Palin.

Nice to know their faith in her hasn't been shaken.  Nice for us certainly.  You betcha it is.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167582

100% of Democrats want Sarah Palin to be the candidate in 2012. Why didn't they report that?

Awesome.  And bad news for Republicans.  Who would have thought that McCain's hasty 'Hail Mary' VP pick would have crippled the Republican party for the foreseeable future?  She's their problem now and it's a massive one, squarely astride the path to rebuilding their party for sane Republicans.  And she ain't going away any time soon, either.

She's America's very own Pauline Hanson, the xenophobic populist who single-handedly wrecked the reactionary National party of Australia and hastened the conservative Liberal party on it's eight-year long journey into the political wilderness.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA hA ha...!!!!!!!!!!

Progressive Blue

Please do.

Maybe Obama will get another shot at that 400+ electoral vote landslide in '12.

MoveOn shelled out over $5 million to help elect BHO.  I sure hope he remembers to send George Soros a thank you card once he gets to the White House.

Is it considered concern trolling if we tell the truth?

A Palin presidential candidacy would absolutely destroy the republican party for the foreseeable future.

I think I'll stick to "She's a formidable candidate, the republican party would do well to nominate Sara Palin."

Fer sure.

Wow...the new Know Nothing Party.

This poll bodes well for the Libertarian Party soon becoming a major force in American politics.

I'm reading Perlstein's Nixonland right now and it's clear that the whole anti-elitist culture war argument that propelled Nixon to power still reigns among the GOP base.

The rest of us are laughing.

Pawlenty only got 1%?  Damn that's fucked up.

Out of curiosity regarding the potential re-election of Barack Obama.

Is it a written rule that Democratic Primaries are not allowed during a re-election bid.  Can a potential Democrat try and seek a primary bid if the situation deems it?  Or is the incumbent automatically the nominee no ifs-ands-or-buts?

I am just curious.  Obviously I am hoping Obama has success in implementing his policies.  However, I was just playing devils advocate if a scenario arises when Obama's popularity tanks or if he has difficulty with his policies.    Or if improvement in the nation's crisis with the economy, etc.....

I can't see the Republican party ever choosing Sarah Palin...they'll embrace her as their party's standard bearer's VP choice and the far right/social conservatives will be excited by the presence of one of their own as part of a national ticket and consequently defend her passionately...but they will never give her a shot a being their Presidential nominee. Once the wounds have started to heal a bit they will realize that at least some of the things she supposedly said or did are in fact true and at least some of those will be recognized as disqualifying.

Huckabee will take away tons of the religious conservatives....sorry, but being a mom of 5 doesn't trump being a ordained preacher (who happens to actually know a bit about policy).
The business crowd will never embrace her and the 4 or 5 moderates that will still be part of the Republican party (the rest having been killed off or in museums) will do everything they can to keep reminding everyone what a disaster she was/is. Palin has no shot.

It will probably be a Crist/Romney ticket (if only because I'm still convinced that Aaron Sorkin is secretly orchestrating this whole thing and Crist is the definition of "some hair-do from Florida") Although, I think he might be somewhat more politically savvy and dangerous than many on the left might imagine.

on a related note....I think the previous few paragraphs that I just wrote are totally signs of some sort of sickness....didn't the election just end 4 days ago??? I need help

The religious right is poised to take control of the Republican Party. Palin's #1 and Mike Huckabee is #2. Palin's at 64% and Huckabee's a distant second with 12%.

The other Republicans might have to ditch the party and morph into Libertarians. That's their closest ideological kin right now.

It's fashionable to rip Sarah Palin. I see everyone is having a jolly time. Meanwhile, there's that 53-46 McCain margin among white women, which makes absolutely no sense in this political climate, without an artificial boost. It certainly doesn't jive with a +6 Democratic margin, or the results of other major demographics.

Politico reported similar, mentioning that 53-46 number in its exit poll rundown, and wondering if Palin wasn't the influence.

The white female block should have been about a 2-3 point McCain advantage in this type of Obama win, not 7 points.

What if Sarah Palin was just acting this whole time, pretending she was stupid, in order to lower expectations for a 2012 run?

/crazy conspiracy theory

P.S. Jerky Mclaughlin (of the Mclaughlin report) raised the possibility of a Palin-Jindal primary as if melatonin and/or ovaries were the sole keys to electoral success.  I imagine that sort of primary would lead to a stream of vicious sexism/racism that would make our recent primary seem like a tea party.

"Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain's bid for the presidency"

Still "Proud to be ignorant" I see. its OK we can do with a bigger landslide next time!!

Stevens out... Palin in.

Senator Sarah Palin

They just.don't.get.it!  It is beyond their comprehension that everyone outside of the whack job fundie base of the GOP might not be of the same mind as them with regard to anti-intellectualism coupled with intolerant evangelism and theocracy.  Wow!  Just.... wow!

Deep thought:  Palin seems a lot more human with her hair down giving post-mortems of the campaign.   It's probably some secret lady wiles thing that men don't understand, but she seems like a totally different person.

Talk about blowing yourself up (no pun intended).

Look who is in the field.

A woman
A non-'christian'
a dark guy
a gay guy

actually kind of impressive

I think Palin is still a viable threat, although I feel like 2016 is more appropriate timing for her, as 4 years may not be able to reverse the image she's cultivated.  One thing to remember is that most people viewed her negatively due to her lack of experience.  That's something that can be developed.  And there is a very viable case that the McCain camp screwed her introduction up very badly.  That said, her remarks in the next few years will be critical to her future political success.

The person I'm watching is Mitch Daniels.  I can't think of that many issues about him that would cause tabloid like headlines.  Who knows, maybe there is stuff in the closet.  I can see the Republicans trying to move in on the Midwest and make the Midwest the battleground area in 2012.  Daniels term, as Governor, will be coming to a close.  I imagine, through his association with Lugar and Bush, that Daniels would have enough allies.  I don't know if he can rally the social conservatives, but he could always pick someone like Huckabee to address that area of concern.  Daniels background could play a role if the economy is still a mess.

This is like Jerome's wet dream!

Obama's team will tear her apart.    She is only effective against someone whose charisma is less than hers... John Kerry for example.   Obama exudes way more Charisma than she does and will be the sitting President as well.   He seriously could win more than 400 EVs if they pick her.    

And if she tries for 2016... Hillary will tear her apart... its like a high schooler going up against an adult.    It won't even be a contest.    

I weep for America if Palin ever got elected.    She'd make Bush look like FDR in comparison.

Truthfully, no Republican scares me for 2012.  That election will be SOLELY about Obama.  If he shores up the economy, creates job and pushes his long term middle class plans such as Healthcare, then it will be a question of HOW BIG a win rather than who will win.  The sole argument against Obama was experience.  That argument is gone.   The muslim smears won't work.  The whole election will be solely on his performance.  He does well and he's in, he fucks up, and he'll probably lose... although we know bad Presidents can get re-elected (See 2004).

You know guys, not everyone thinks Palin is a joke, Jerome Armstrong is (or was) in awe of her.;)

For the GOP, I watched the TV speeches tonight in full, and have just one word.

Palin.

We have met someone that we will be doing battle against for a decade or more. Seriously. I've never seen a woman, or a man for that matter, speak that way, prime time, national, convention, live, ever. She blows away Hillary Clinton. Sorry, but that's what it is. Palin's deft speaking style is like watching visceral connective tissue being torn-- with a child in arms.

I think he would run as center right candidate and could be formidable.Obama from all indications could be a great president but I am not sure about the Democratic congress.

Demagogues who can connect to the dark side of a population don't need smarts or an ability to govern. Look at Amadinajad and Hugo Chavez. From countless remarks that would be comical if they were not actually running countries they don't appear to be the sharpest tools in the shed. They may be ignoramuses on a par with Palin but they have galvanized majorities, come to power and done huge damage to their nations (and their supporters).

Obama has been handed an economy that has been destroyed, a crushing debt and two wars screwed up almost beyond repair. If he can't thread the needle perfectly you can be sure the hate-mongers and demagogues will be looking for an in. Under the right circumstances Palin could be a dangerous force to be reckoned with so be careful what you wish for.

I'd rather see a more sane Republican opposition even if it means they are more competitive and credible with the center then a Republican Party reduced to it's KKK/Taliban wing that is a clear and present danger to our democracy and society. While short term it might marginalize them you never know what damage they could cause in the future.

How many republican "leaders" and "talkers" who are pushing palin are actually thinking with that "tingle" between their legs? Mr. evolution (Pat B.) was on asking the old scopes trial question. Is he really that old and that absent of education?

does anyone know whether Charlie Crist called off the marriage to his beard seeing as he wasn't selected as VP?

I think you people like to worry WAY too much.  I suppose we are all addicted to politics right now, coming off of our various highs...

...but, let's let Obama actually get INTO office and let's see what his first 100 days are like.  That should give us a very good idea of what he is doing.

BTW  my wife heard about Obama's remarks of Nancy Reagan AND that he called and apologized to her.  APOLOGIZED!  She was stunned.  After 8 years of a Pres. who cannot think of one mistake he made (I know, a generalization) to hear about the Pres-elect apologizing, IN PERSON, the SAME say...stunning.  Who let the adults into the White House?

(Shh...but I think Obama's shot at a Reagan shows some of what he really has underneath his public post-partisan appearance.  He has something good up his sleeve and I think it is hard fro him to keep it covered up until Jan 20th.  But Shhh, don't tell...)

You've gotta remember, these are the same people that believe that the earth is only 6000 years old.

WTF does anyone care what they want or believe?

He has an article in TNR calling the GOP base "slow learners."

That fact that anywhere close to 69% of GOP respondents would indicate a top preference for Palin in 2012 is truly a lamentable discovery for the political health of our country even if it portends to continued success for the Democrats.  Let's hope that at least most of them can be cured of this chronic case of ignorance in the next four years.

The continuing acumen of the Democratic party is not helped by having a chronically stupid party in opposition.  Any of those candidates listed below her would be far better and some of them could be pretty good candidates.

I know, in general, that religion has been a good business, (robertson, haggard, the bakers, dobson, etc are fairly comfy), but how many can be supported by the population? Seems they are always buying tv time to advertise their next "healing or preaching" event and I see new ones all the time. Do all these guys get tax breaks like charities?

Two things:

1. What will be the state of the countyer in next four years? If it imporves, things will be difficult for the GOP.

2. Even with that, the Republicans should be infromed that Rite Aid has a 2-for-1 special on clues this week.

Two things:

1. What will be the state of the country in next four years? If it imporves, things will be difficult for the GOP.

2. Even with that, the Republicans should be infromed that Rite Aid has a 2-for-1 special on clues this week.