The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign

Yesterday Sarah Palin launched the first of what is sure to be many attacks against Obama as anti-American by virtue of his association with William Ayers. "Palling around with terrorists" is how she put it. It is the sign of a candidate and campaign with nothing substantive to run on, and only a desperate final hail Mary as a last resort. As Nate Silver puts it:

...they're going to drive their campaign into a ditch -- and hope they can find a way to take Obama along for the ride.

Too bad for McCain, no one seems to be buying it.

In her speech yesterday, Palin referenced a New York Times article about Ayers, which concluded "Little Influence Seen" between the two men and that:

"...the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers."

And that's the article that Palin is citing to bolster her case?

Over at CNN, their Fact Check concludes the same thing:

The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is "someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." [...]

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

And none other than The AP thinks this may actually backfire on McCain:

By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is "palling around with terrorists" and doesn't see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.

And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.

As does conservative pundit George Will, who announced on This Week this morning:

STEPHANOUPOLOS: Is the attack that Governor Palin took yesterday the right one?

WILL: No. The attack she took yesterday is saying not that Barack Obama has bad ideas that would be bad for the country, but Barack Obama is a bad person. And I don't think people want to do that. We don't elect angry presidents and John McCain looks very angry at the moment.

But just because the attack doesn't appear to be sticking, doesn't mean it should go unanswered. Indeed, having learned the lessons of Democratic nominees past, the Obama campaign hit back fast with the charge that the McCain campaign is so desperate that all they will do from now to election day is attack Obama rather than address the problems of ordinary Americans:

The Obama campaign responded by noting that McCain officials had been quoted as saying that they hoped to “turn the page” on the fiscal crisis, which has hurt Mr. McCain’s standing in the polls, and to devote more time to attacking Mr. Obama.

“Governor Palin’s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign’s statement this morning that they would be launching Swift-boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation’s economic ills,” said Hari Sevugan, an Obama spokesman. “What’s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.”

They also released this ad:

So far throughout this entire election cycle, remarkably, we've seen facts and rationality win out over fear. Will that continue over the next 30 days? It's clear that Palin's reference to plural "terrorists" (no comment, of course, from the McCain campaign on who these other terrorists Obama is "palling around with" are) and her evocation of racial cues in her speech yesterday are intended to make people fear Barack Obama, to portray him as "the other" but for that strategy to work, they need the nation to be its old 2004 self. Again, too bad for John McCain, not only is the country in a much different place than it was just 4 years ago, but the left is far better organized with a media infrastructure that has been able to effectively hit back against such attacks in real time. This isn't 2004 anymore.

Update [2008-10-5 19:48:41 by Todd Beeton]:One key way this is sooo not 2004: our candidate hits back swiftly and often. Here's Barack on the campaign trail today:

Sen. Barack Obama on Sunday charged that Sen. John McCain's campaign is launching "Swift boat-style attacks" on him instead of addressing the country's problems.

"Sen. McCain and his operatives are gambling that they can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance. They'd rather try to tear our campaign down than lift this country up," Obama said at an event in Asheville, North Carolina.

"That's what you do when you're out of touch, out of ideas, and running out of time," he said.

Notice how Obama is not adopting a defensive posture. In fact, he even took the opportunity to continue to hit McCain's health care policy, calling it "radical" and "out of line with our basic values."



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Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (none / 0)

Ruthless and efficient counter-attack.  That's the only suggestion I make to Obama.  Give them no quarter, leave no idiotic statement unanswered.  Cram it down their throats and let them choke on their own lies.  And I'm not talking about some kumbaya "can't we all just get along" way.

Enough!


by tlhwraith on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 05:19:43 PM EST

Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (2.00 / 2)

Obama needs to address these attacks in the nesxt debate on Tuesday. He needs to take it to McCain/Palin directly.


by mtndewrob on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 05:28:06 PM EST

off topic a bit but... (none / 0)

anyone up for one last money bomb?  we need to give them the money early enough for them to fully utilize it, but not so early they risk running out.  i'm thinking the night of the last prez debate, the 15th, 20 days before the election.  anyone up for it?  if so, spread the word!


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 05:29:28 PM EST

CNN also pointed out (none / 0)

that Palin said Obama was "palling around around with terrorists." They said they called the campaign to ask why they used the plural when Palin only mentioned Ayers. The McCain campaign never returned their calls. They also said the accusation was false.


by Lolis on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 05:36:19 PM EST

Re: CNN also pointed out (none / 0)

Just a thought; Ayers wife was part of this group wasn't she?


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:26:09 PM EST
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Re: CNN also pointed out (none / 0)

OMF-ing GOD!

And, Obama probably said Hello to her at least once.

Thats it, campaign over.

It's the McCain landslide assured.


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by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:52:25 PM EST
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Re: CNN also pointed out (none / 0)

Don't freak; it was just a thought in reference to what Palin meant by "terrorists." I may be way off; it may have been a gaffe, she may have meant "terrorist." That beings said, his wife was part of the "weathermen."

FYI; I don't read minds.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:39:07 PM EST
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Re: CNN also pointed out (none / 0)

I think it's just a generic term that uninformed people use: "He's running around with terrorists," stands in for one guy.


by elrod on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:13:40 PM EST
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Biden's mother in law passed away (none / 0)

today; give your good graces to the Biden family.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 05:55:32 PM EST

Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (none / 0)

Character is a dangerous issue to bring up. McCain is a hothead who berated POW advocates and who (lest we forget) left his disabled wife and his kids to hook up with a much younger hot heiress. If Wright becomes fair game because it speaks to Obama's "judgment", so does that. Not by Obama, by a 527 that Obama will immediately denounce. Because seriously, what kind of man abandons his wife and kids to "marry upwards"?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 06:25:06 PM EST

Ambinder says that Obama already (2.00 / 1)

gave the ok to bring up Keating.

I think McCain's first wife is being saved for Jeremiah Wright.  I think they see that as the equivalent as Wright.

Would Biden be willing to bring up that stuff against McCain?  I'm doubtful considering their friendship, so this may have to be done by surrogates on television (Rahm Emanuel and Paul Begala).


by Blazers Edge on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:07:27 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

Did someone die?


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:24:31 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

Are you being serious or joking? Because if you're joking about Jill Biden's mother, that's beyond sick.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:27:10 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

No, I was talking about Ayers.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:28:35 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

Good.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:29:01 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

In 1970 there were fatalities - a police officer died from his injuries after a pipe bomb was detonated in a San Francisco police station, while three of the group blew themselves up while building explosives in their New York apartment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7653 486.stm


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:32:22 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

In 2001, Ayers stated that "he didn't do enough" in reference to the weathermen and their tactics. Obama wasn't 8 years old when he said that.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:27:18 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

So your position is that all the members of the Woods board and every politician that has worked with Ayers is a terrorist?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:31:37 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

My position is; it is a fact that there was a relationship between Obama and Ayers.

How close they are is for the media investigate/debunk/whatever.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:33:44 PM EST
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Re: Relationship? (none / 0)

Barely knows the guy? Yeah right. I think that's a bit of a stretch to claim that Obama "barely knows the guy." I think you need to "look within yourself."


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:24:22 PM EST
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Obama...set the record straight (1.00 / 1)

Obama needs to speak out about his relationship and put this to rest. His previous comments about just "some guy" suggests he hardly knows him and yet he served on a board with him. Obama should set the record straight IMO. He may do that if the questions continue. I believe that will help put this behind him in the same manner Obama handled the Wright incident; now that was smart.


by soyousay on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 12:42:17 AM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (2.00 / 1)

I think Ayers is a complete asshole, but he has made it very clear that he wasn't saying that he wished they had set more bombs.  A little intellectual honesty here, please.

"In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he had "no regrets" and that "we didn't do enough" he was speaking only in reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the Vietnam War, efforts which he has described as ". . . inadequate [as] the war dragged on for a decade."[21] Ayers has maintained that the two statements were not intended to imply a wish they had set more bombs."


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:46:43 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

Obama should make the "asshole" claim. I believe that would help him out in reference to this situation.

"No regrets" huh? That speaks for itself.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:28:54 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

I do know that Ayers initially helped launch Obama's political career at Ayers home. I don't see any evidence that he has any recent contact.

Will Obama lose votes due to this? Maybe a few but it may not have a huge impact.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:30:53 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

Coulda said that from the beginning.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:34:08 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

I could have, but I didn't. I didn't realize that my imput had so much weight....That was a joke.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:41:20 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

Ayers raised a grand total of $200 for Obama. That's not "helping him start his political career." That's hosting a small-scale fundraiser for a neighbor running for Senate.


by elrod on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:17:29 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we all know Ayers is a bad guy (none / 0)

It's not always about money.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:25:48 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

Yes.


*meh*
by failsafe on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:28:08 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

If so, that's why supposedly McCain is forbidding the use of Jeremiah Wright.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:25:05 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (none / 0)

No, McCain is "forbidding" the use of Wright because back in the primaries he said that Obama didn't share Wright's views.  He'd look like an idiot if his campaign brought it up now.

So why not make it look principled instead of tactical?


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:22:51 PM EST
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Re: Ambinder says that Obama already (2.00 / 0)

An interesting point from Paul Begala:


But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League - the parent organization - which ADL said "has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites."

Ben Smith - A shot across the bows Politico 5 Oct 08

Personally I don't think these attacks have much impact at this stage in the race, Palin, unleashed in 'pit-bull' mode, is playing 'fire brigade' defence in red states, not to mention doing a fund-raiser in California of all places.  It increasingly looks to me like McCain is slowly taking on water and that Palin is more interested in her political prospects beyond 2008 than anything else.

Frankly, this latest shift in the 'strategy' of the McCain campaign looks like they are throwing in the towel and letting Palin off the leash to get some national exposure in the last few weeks of the campaign.  It's interesting to note the final outcome of the VP debate:


An Ipsos/McClatchy poll found that Gov. Sarah Palin's performance in last week's vice presidential debate actually hurt her running mate, Sen. John McCain, among undecided voters.

Before the debate, undecided voters were leaning 56% to 44% for McCain. The day after the debate, the numbers tilted 52% to 48% for Sen. Barack Obama.

Taegan Goddard - VP Debate Pushed Undecided Voters to Obama Taegan Goddard's Political Wire 5 Oct 08

That kind of result is very reassuring, if Governor Palin is 'energising the base' so be it, from where I sit she is also dividing the Republican party, and clearly unconcerned about undermining the top of her own ticket, at a moment in history when they can least afford it.


by Shaun Appleby on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:43:49 PM EST
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Character (2.00 / 0)

Indeed.  If you haven't, just read the latest Rolling Stone (there's a diary here on it), and spread it around to all of your friends.  I thought McCain was a jerk and a fraud, but I had no idea just how much of one...


*meh*
by failsafe on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:26:41 PM EST
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predictable (none / 0)


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:00:58 PM EST

We agree (2.00 / 0)

You certainly are....


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by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:08:55 PM EST
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Re: We agree (none / 0)

So are you; you got your head in the clouds.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:23:46 PM EST
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Re: We agree (2.00 / 1)

Better there than where you've stashed yours...


*meh*
by failsafe on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:29:26 PM EST
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Re: We agree (none / 0)

I saw this coming. Did you?


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:36:52 PM EST
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Yep. (2.00 / 0)

But unlike you, I saw that it wouldn't matter much.


*meh*
by failsafe on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:50:38 PM EST
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Re: Yep. (none / 0)

Maybe...Maybe not.

I do think it will matter to some.


by soyousay on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:21:51 PM EST
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Now? (2.00 / 0)

This stuff came up in the primary and then again in August. Anybody who will actually be turned off to voting for Obama because of Ayers has already been turned off a long time ago.

Voters just paying attention now are more concerned with the economy than base-polarizing guilt-by-association attacks.

The time to launch character attacks is in August, not October. The only exception is if there is a genuinely new revelation in October, like Bush's DWI in 2000. There is nothing new with Ayers so we are just recycling nonsense.


by elrod on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:20:36 PM EST
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Actually I agree with Oscar Wilde (2.00 / 0)

We are ALL in the gutter...

Just some of us are looking at the stars?

Try looking up once in a while Soyousay, it might do you some good.


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by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:01:18 PM EST
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Re: soyousay (2.00 / 0)

Soyousay is too wily to give you a free shot, cant really be pinned down...

But, I do think, he is one of the gutsy PUMAs that will show up after Obama wins, and take their lumps.

The really chicken shit ones, like IndyDem for instances, won't be seen within a million miles of this site.

They will slink away, and howl like puppies whose tails have been stepped on with the rest at NoQuarter and Texas Darlinks HellSiteandAngerFestival.com


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by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:18:07 PM EST
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Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (2.00 / 1)

Frankly, I don't want to hear about Ayers from Stephanoupolos.  He legitimized the attack by brining it up at that so-called debate he "moderated" in the primaries.

These attacks are ridiculous and should be easy to counteract given McCain's dubious associations and Palin's mega-issues in Alaska.  The only thing that concerns me about the negative attacks is that Obama has often been a step behind when it comes to countering them.  He holds off until the polls dip and then responds.  We don't have time to wait for that cycle right now.  People are already voting.  I hope that he is ready for a knock down fight on Tuesday, and that if McCain brings up Ayers, Obama smacks back with the Keating 5 scandal.


by Renie on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:15:20 PM EST

Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (none / 0)

McCain blows his wad again.. by bringing this up now, it allows Obama to smack it down decisively during the debate two days from now...  Had they waited until after the debate, they could have let the story fester for about a week until the last debate...

We'll see how the public reacts... The folk on intrade feel that there may be some resonance, since Obama lost a few points today, and McCain gained... but, Obama is still in the low to mid 60's in regards to probability of winning...

Unfortunately, we are peaking a bit early for what we need... thank goodness we've got early voting going on...


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by LordMike on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:55:45 PM EST

a plateau, not a peak (2.00 / 0)

I don't think the Democratic landslide is going to go above a certain level, but I wouldn't say Barack's campaign has peaked too early, or even necessarily hit its peak yet.  Of course, we will hit a plateau past which there are no more gains, but I'll settle for less than 50 states in our landslide, won't you?  


by chiefscribe on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:07:22 PM EST
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Re: History is on our side (2.00 / 0)

And our chart much more strongly resembles Bush's side of that chart. Bush, too showed a steadily increasing lead interrupted by a brief period when Gore's convention bounce almost changed the race.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:46:03 PM EST
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Re: The Last Throes of A Desperate Campaign (none / 0)

Maybe this isn't the peak :)

There are things I'm worried about, but having a nice lead 4 weeks out is not one of them.  McCain might cut into it, but I'd rather have him trying to eat into an 8 point lead than into a 1 point lead.


But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.
by thezzyzx on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:10:29 PM EST
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Palin took out the word "pal" (2.00 / 0)

and replaced it with "work with [Ayers]" tonight in Omaha.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:49:41 PM EST

Re: Palin took out the word "pal" (2.00 / 0)

She is throwing that to the base.....

They know that the media is not going to go on an AYERS frenzy like they did on Rev Wright.

They will run ads down south, to try to stop the bleeding, but they know this is not a game changer.


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by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:07:28 PM EST
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Deperados (none / 0)

Ayers isn't going to pay anyones Mortgage or Health Insurance.  4 years ago maybe, today HELL NO.  


by nzubechukwu on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:20:42 PM EST


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