Changing The Debates

Yesterday's debate was better than the one before - the candidates argued and a few clear policy distinctions emerged.

But much can be done to change the entire nature of the process, and put the debates back in the hands of people. We're democratizing other parts of the political process, so there's no reason to leave out the debates.

Prof. Lessig at the Open Debate Coalition runs through the next steps:

1) Video rights in 2008. There is still a possibility that video rights to this year's debates will be put in the public domain. This is being worked on, and if it comes through, it will be yet another important precedent and a show of momentum. If folks with blogs want to ramp up the call on the Commission on Presidential Debates and the TV networks to release video rights, that would be helpful. If you know either of the Commission chairs (Kirk and Fahrenkopf) or higher-ups at TV networks, and want to get more involved, please let me know.

2) Reform or scrap the Commission on Presidential Debates.  As we stated in our last letter, even though Obama, McCain, and the public all agreed on 'open debate' principles, the Commission refused to implement these principles or even engage in dialogue about them. Therefore, the outdated, top-down Commission has got to go--or be dramatically reformed. 2008 should be the last year that the Commission on Presidential Debates exists as we know it. All of us can help make clear that, in the future, voters must "own" the debates--and we demand debates that are democratic, transparent, and accountable to the public. This push will likely come after the election, unless there's some universal outrage tonight. We've laid the groundwork for this fight.

3) Moving beyond presidential debates. There's a clear path for us to affect the 2012 presidential debates together. But part of the strategic significance of this 2008 push is that it will have a ripple affect on all debates. We are reshuffling the norms, and we can use the momentum we've gained in 2008 to tackle debates in 2009 and 2010. For instance, we've heard that the League of Women Voters refuses to let people share key moments from local, state, and congressional debates. We now have leverage to let them know that's not acceptable, and to usher in modernization of those rules.

The Commission on Presidential Debates is ridiculous. Corporate sponsored and unaccountable, they're a terrible model for democracy.  

And now even Grover Norquist agrees:

"I'm happy to join the Open Debate Coalition in calling for dismantling the Commission or fundamentally reforming it so it is accountable to one constituency only: the public."



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Although I agree with what Lessig says, many times - in this instance I just dont see the imperative to reform the debates. They seem to be working fine.

The candidates chose to deliver faded answers to questions, but otherwise, the format seemed to work.


by Trey Rentz on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 01:38:12 PM EST

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I agree. Call me elitist, or a pointy-headed intellectual or whatever, but in this case I really don't see the value of any sort of pitchfork wielding mob demanding "transparency and democracy" and blah blah blah. The best political debates of all time, the Lincoln-Douglas debates, were as elite and high-falutin as they come. There needs to be some structure and a strong moderator or candidates just repeat talking points and try and seem "sympathetic", as opposed to answering questions. I also don't see a particularly strong imperative to release tapes to the public. Just leads to more trivial stuff like sighs and eye-rolls getting taken out of context and blown up.

The one major thing the Commission could do to improve debates is to insist that moderators ask follow-up questions to clarify answers and challenge candidates. My favorite debates include a panel of questioners, usually reporters, who know their stuff and are given the freedom to call bs on any answer they don't feel is accurate or clear.


by ColoradoGuy on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 01:48:06 PM EST
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The Lincoln-Douglas debates are a bad example - there's a much lower bar for people to actually watch the debates. Many more people see them. Breaking up the Commission doesn't mean abolishing structure.


by Josh Orton on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 02:34:27 PM EST
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I thought the debates this year were generally good, if a bit dry.  Both candidates got their messages out.  The public got a good sense of what these two men were about.  The media will always concentrate on the horse race, but the public seems to have engaged these debates on a different level.  

Think Obama won all three, frankly, because right now there are more voters who are receptive to his policies and personality (and in some general sense a debate should be a showcase, don't think this idea that it's a joust really makes sense).

Of the primary debates the one I liked best was sponsored by YouTube, and I'd welcome any effort to use that format at the presidential level.  Let Joe the Plumber ask his own question.  Town Hall Meetings are a joke, but nothing beats that last ABC debate between Obama and Clinton for sheer awfulness.


by IncognitoErgoSum on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 02:10:27 PM EST
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The League of Women Voters is notorious for running highly partisan debates in which some candidates are invited and others are not. You are entirely right not to trust them.


by phillies on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 01:39:14 PM EST

I agree that the debates need to be reformed... (2.00 / 1)

...but I quite simply don't trust Grover Norquist.


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