Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade And, Um, Well, That's Pretty Much It

The Katie Couric interview you've been dreading waiting for.

Couric Why, in your view, is Roe v. Wade a bad decision?

Sarah Palin: I think it should be a states' issue not a federal government-mandated, mandating yes or no on such an important issue. I'm, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas. Now, foundationally, also, though, it's no secret that I'm pro-life that I believe in a culture of life is very important for this country. Personally that's what I would like to see, um, further embraced by America.

Couric: Do you think there's an inherent right to privacy in the Constitution?

Palin: I do. Yeah, I do.

Couric: The cornerstone of Roe v. Wade.

Palin: I do. And I believe that individual states can best handle what the people within the different constituencies in the 50 states would like to see their will ushered in an issue like that.

Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

Palin: Well, let's see. There's, of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ...

Couric: Can you think of any?

Palin: Well, I could think of ... any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But, you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.

Make it stop.

Update [2008-10-1 19:46:26 by Todd Beeton]:Here's the video. It starts with Joe Biden's interview and then continues with Palin's. The contrast is, to say the least, stark. The part where she's struggling to name another Supreme Court case is unwatchable, far exceeding in my mind, her Bush Doctrine moment. Moose in the headlights indeed.

Update [2008-10-1 20:5:44 by Todd Beeton]:The fine folks at the Courage Campaign, for whom I also work, are collecting suggestions for a banner to fly over Sarah Palin's L.A. event on Saturday. You can submit your own banner ideas HERE (must be 50 characters or fewer.)



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Right to Privacy? (2.00 / 1)

That is a major No No to the Religious Right.  Not only does that affect Roe, but it also affects Lawrence v Texas and Griswold v Connecticut.

I don't think this woman has any clue as to what she believes in.


by gavoter on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 07:45:12 PM EST

Re: Right to Privacy? (2.00 / 1)

She believes that Life is precious, and God, and the Bible.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 07:52:49 PM EST
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Re: Right to Privacy? (none / 0)

Wow, Exactly.

You can scream states rights, but she just blessed Griswold intact?

You're right, she has NO IDEA what the right has been arguing about Roe etc for decades...

Sheesh!


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by WashStateBlue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:17:03 PM EST
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Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade And (none / 0)

Holy smokes.  This needs to end.

I don't care what her performance in the debate will be tomorrow, this woman, as every thinking person is crying from the mountaintops, needs to be removed from this contest.

It is embarrassing, on the world stage, to have someone like this on a presidential ticket.

I can only hope we get more of this tomorrow night, so we can just put the whole election to bed.  A performance like this tomorrow night (which is actually unlikely given the format) will end McCain's bid for good.


by Particle Noun on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 07:48:04 PM EST

OMFG (none / 0)

yeah, how's that "culture of life" worked out for you in Iraq?

Does anyone notice the remarkable similarity between her response to this and Ms. South Carolina's response when she says "such as..." and then fails to list anything?


by slynch on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:01:56 PM EST

...republicans suck (2.00 / 1)

I want to just add to this that my favorite line (that, as far as I know, I came up with and would like to make millions on a bumper sticker with) is:  "Republicans:  In support of life up until birth."


by slynch on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:04:19 PM EST

She will smoke Biden in the debates (2.00 / 3)

I don't understand why Palin isn't doing more interviews in America. In her hourlong appearance on Canadian TV, she engaged in a trenchant critique of Samuel Huntington's clash-of-civilizations theory, identifying the western Balkans and central Asia as but two significant outliers. She acknowledged Syrian secret service involvement in past unrest in Lebanon, but said to craft a Syria-focused US policy vis-a-vis Lebanon for that reason alone would be "reductionist." I didn't understand the second half-hour very well, when she was answering the questions in French. But I think she gently corrected the interviewer's imprecise use of the word "geostrategic."


President Barack Obama "get used to it"
by wellinformed on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:08:07 PM EST

Re: She will smoke Biden in the debates (2.00 / 1)

She has to rush back for the debate.

She has been in Cern helping them debug the Super Collider, the math didn't seem to be converging, Palin had to work a bit on some Tensor Theoritical gymnasitics to get the field equations for them.

Lucky she is a whiz at Field Theory besides being an expert in the history of the USSC!


Support the separation of Church and State: Vote YES on WA R-71!
by WashStateBlue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:20:59 PM EST
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LOL! (none / 0)

We need to make those hoser Canucks give us her brain back, eh?


*meh*
by failsafe on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:57:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: She will smoke Biden in the debates (2.00 / 1)

FYI, a francophone friend of mine saw that interview. A lot of it revolved around a discussion of the role of Eleanor of Aquitaine's role in the development of the Angevin Empire in the late 1100's, the four daughters of Ramon Berenguer the sixth of Provence who dominated western European politics through their subtle influences in the following century, and how those historical women relate to Palin's perception of her own role in reestablishing a strong female influence in geostrategic affairs in the 21st century.

Toward the end, the interviewer just stopped asking questions and listened with rapt attention.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 01:59:34 AM EST
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This question is a gimmie (none / 0)

1) Dred Scott

2) Plessy vs Ferguson

3) If you're a conservative Kelo, but I didn't know that one by name off the top of my head, just knew it as the eminent domain case in CT

I haven't studied any social science issues in two decades and I came up with the first two by name off the top of my head.  How could someone who might be able to APPOINT SC justices not be able to do that?


But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.
by thezzyzx on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:08:50 PM EST

Re: This question is a gimmie (none / 0)

Brown vs Board of Education.

But, how about a more recent case, THIS YEAR:

Exxon Valdez vs Alaska?

http://www.adn.com/exxonvaldez/story/422 949.html

That was about her STATE for goodness sakes!


Support the separation of Church and State: Vote YES on WA R-71!
by WashStateBlue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:23:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This question is a gimmie (none / 0)

"Brown vs Board of Education." I don't think it's smart to disagree with this one...


by gcensr on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:31:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This question is a gimmie (none / 0)

It would have been awesome for Couric to say, well there have been some questionable verdicts such as Lawrence v. Texas, Plessy v. Ferguson, and Dred Scott.

Do you agree or disagree with those?


by barath on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:46:06 PM EST
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Re: This question is a gimmie (2.00 / 1)

I think that's the wrong way to go.  When you ask her about a list of particular things, it comes across as a quiz.  When you give her even slightly-leading questions, she just parrots back whatever information you gave her.  I think the best way is to ask relatively open-ended questions that can't be easily addressed by talking points (e.g. "other SC decisions?"), then just let her swing there for awhile.


*meh*
by failsafe on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:59:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This question is a gimmie (none / 0)

I totally agree. I am not one to compliment the media, in general, but I think Couric did a fine job with this interview. Any unbiased observer would have to admit there is no badgering, no quizzing, no loaded questions. Yet she was able to elicit some amazing answers.

A common trap that media types fall into is trying to show how smart they are by asking "smart" questions. As Couric shows, if they would ask reasonable questions and follow up to make sure they get an answer, they would get a lot more information and look like asses a lot less often.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 02:18:00 AM EST
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I have got it! (none / 0)

She should have named Bush v. Gore!!

Nobody in their right mind would disagree that was one of the worst SCOTUS decisions in history.

But seriously, how about Hamdan vs. Rumsfeld, a decision any devotee of Bush's War on Terra would decry. (Assuming she had read about it in one of her many periodicals whose names she cannot recall.)


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 02:53:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

You know what's really sad? (2.00 / 1)

What's sad is that she has mentioned one Supreme Court decision she disagrees with in her stump speech! Hello? Habeas Corpus?

Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America, and [Obama is] worried that someone won't read them their rights.

She wouldn't have just heard this then, either. She's been doing debate prep, getting briefed. This is a major attack point for the GOP! It will likely even come up tomorrow!

This proves that she doesn't understand the words that she gets fed. Most of us suspected that anyway, but this proves it.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:14:07 PM EST

I'm nit picking, but (none / 0)

The SCOTUS decision about reading suspects their rights is Miranda vs. Arizona. Habeas Corpus is a writ that predates the US Constitution by centuries, and comes from English Common Law I believe.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 02:22:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'm nit picking, but (none / 0)

But it's what she was referring to. Guaranteed she's been fed this information in the last two weeks.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 01:01:29 PM EST
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``Strict constructionists'' stop the bleeding (none / 0)

Each passing day it looks like the only qualification that Palin has is that she decided to not go for abortion. A courageous decision, but please, is it enough to be Vice-President.


by ann0nymous on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:17:48 PM EST

Re: ``Strict constructionists'' stop the bleeding (none / 0)

Don't forget the guns. That was the clincher. I would say her qualifications went in this order:


  1. Hot chick, mother, young anti-abortion "feminist"

  2. Outsider, maverick, party reformer

  3. Hunter, outdoorswoman, looks hot holding a gun

People seem to often underestimate how sexist the GOP is. Palin was championed chiefly by men like Hannity who literally drool over women in public.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:22:36 PM EST
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Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade And, Um, Well, That' (none / 0)

Here was my courage campaign entry:

"Who's keeping an eye on Russia right now?  God help us!"


by gorebeatbush2 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:21:32 PM EST

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade And (none / 0)

sweet. mine was "Hey, Sarah, I can see Russia from up here!"


by Todd Beeton on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:47:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade And (none / 0)

I win cause I am putting my faith in God!  Yours is just mean spirited  haha ;)

I'm kidding...I like it


by gorebeatbush2 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:51:36 PM EST
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What a *%&@k*#! idiot! (2.00 / 1)

Sounds to me like Palin wants to throw out the Constitution, sort of like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
by zenful6219 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:26:57 PM EST

She couldn't come up with THIS CASE? (none / 0)

http://www.adn.com/exxonvaldez/story/422 949.html

This year, Billions of dollars to her state

Come on...that is un-frickin believable!


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by WashStateBlue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:27:18 PM EST

Re: She couldn't come up with THIS CASE? (none / 0)

You didn't go far enough into this.  Check this out (from a few days later after the decision came out):

http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/0626 08/sta_295993390.shtml

From Gov. Sarah Palin:

"I am extremely disappointed with today's decision by the U.S. Supreme Court," Palin said. "While the decision brings some degree of closure to Alaskans suffering from 19 years of litigation and delay, the court gutted the jury's decision on punitive damages."

Here she is ON RECORD disagreeing with a Supreme Court decision that directly affected the state she is the executive of, and now she CAN'T REMEMBER IT three months later?!?

She is really unbelievable.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 11:30:21 PM EST
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Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade (none / 0)

If anyone has seen the videos of her debates from the governor campaign, you'll think it's a different person. She's pretty well versed in Alaskan issues and politics (dirty as they are), but she has no sense at all of the national or global issues most politicians take for granted.


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:32:39 PM EST

She's more qualified than Bush in 2000 (none / 0)

and that's still not saying much for her.

I don't know why anyone is shocked at the choice of Palin as veep.  She's every bit as ignorant and inexperienced as Bush, yet the media covered for him.  

Its no surprise the GOP would think they could pull the same trick again.  They don't run candidates, they run political celebrities.


by Betsy McCall on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:30:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: She's more qualified than Bush in 2000 (none / 0)

She's every bit as ignorant and inexperienced as Bush, yet the media covered for him.

I would say even more ignorant and inexperienced than Bush.  As a matter of fact, if you had a gun to my head to make a choice and my only choices were Bush serving a third term as POTUS or Palin serving a first term as POTUS, I would actually choose Bush.
by Obamaphile on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:14:25 PM EST
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Good lord what an idiot [nt] (none / 0)


by Yalin on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:40:50 PM EST

Geezus F'in ^^$%$%$%^#$^#$^$% (none / 0)

WHO HERE IS FROM ALASKA? HOW DID THIS PERSON GET ELECTED TO ANYTHING?????

Selecting her was a disgraceful act that will forever tarnish John McCain. By what possible logic did he come up with this person???

She may, in fact, be the dumbest, most clueless person I have ever heard. This is their game changer????

I don't care if Biden shows up naked and barfs on the stage. I don't care if she's the best debater since Cicero. The hole she's dug is too deep to get out of. This isn't gotcha journalism, this is give me a break you idiot journalism.

Think the Russians will take Alaska back?


by meddembob on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:41:21 PM EST

I am sad (2.00 / 2)

I have to say, I'm as much of a happy warrior as the rest of us who read and post on these blogs, scrutinize every poll, track every rumor and trend... I am unabashedly partisan and passionate about the issues and the stakes in this election.  I expected this clip to fire me up with disgust and righteous indignation like all the other clips of Palin, and McCain, and Steve Schmidt, and all of them.

But this one just made me really sad.  As a lawyer, as a former student of constitutional law, as a former law clerk to federal judges in two countries, and especially as a citizen, for some reason this just made me want to cry.  The US constitution is one of the great works of intellectual and moral genius in human history, and for the most part the manner in which it has been protected and nurtured by the federal courts for two hundred years is one of our greatest national achievements.  The last eight years have put a strain on that history to be sure, but the Constitution is resilient and is reasserting itself even now.  To see someone put forward for the penultinate political office in the land who cares nothing for the Constitution or its history is shameful and is an insult not only to Democrats but to all Americans.


by snowback on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:43:15 PM EST

To good to be true... (none / 0)

McCain's pick destroyed ANY chance he had at the White House.  What started as a "bold," "maverick," pick has turned in to a Fucking DISASTER!!!!  This is a joke.  Even people who may unfortunately choose to vote AGAINST Obama on the basis of his race alone, will Look at her LACK of knowledge and say, "I'll pass and sit this one out."  WHICH WILL BE FINE BY ME AND THE OTHER 90,000,000 Democrats in the United States.


by nzubechukwu on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:46:53 PM EST

Church and State interviews (none / 0)

the other video - on separation between church & state is even more revealing

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4 493091n


by colebiancardi on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:47:34 PM EST

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade (none / 0)

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by notedgeways on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:55:20 PM EST

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade An (2.00 / 1)

she's such a bull shit artist, she has that low form of intelligence called cunning, but she just tries to run the clock out. But she used to make her teachers eyes glaze over.  Of all the irresponsible things John has done in his congressional life, this is worst than the savings and loan bail out that was the result of one of his earlier 'economic ideas.'  He wants to be president, someone asked him, why are you running, and he answers he wants to be president, that's it, pure name, not desire to do anything great, just get to be called Mr. President.  OMG


just say it: Medicare for All
by anna shane on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:01:40 PM EST

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade An (none / 0)

Yes Anna. As I keep repeating when people call Palin stupid, she is clever in the same way GWB is clever. They are both good at getting what they want. What they both lack is a capacity to think beyond what they want to see a greater good, or anticipate the consequences of what they are willing to do in order to get what they want.

McCain, I think (while self absorbed), is not at bottom as incurious or self absorbed as Bush and Palin. But he has a whole headful of wrong ideas about how the world works, and as we all know, unlearning is much harder than learning.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 02:40:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Sarah Palin On Roe v Wade An (none / 0)

don't be so sure, John also has a dad and a granddad, and he rebelled against them and his stated reason for running is he wants to be president, sound GWB/Sarah?  And he picked Sarah, with his health issues and her foolishness, a little present to the nation if he dies in office.  John McCain is not a big thinker unless it's about his own ambition or his own revenge.  


just say it: Medicare for All
by anna shane on Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 01:37:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The problem for the debates.... (none / 0)

If you listen just to the first answer -- and can suppress your visceral dislike of Palin -- she comes off quite well enough. Even if you don't agree with her position, she at least frames her opposition in reasonable terms (states rights vs. federalism) and sounds like she knows what she's talking about. [Okay, she's not a federalist and screwed that up -- but that won't take away from an average voter's impression of her first answer.]

Only when she is asked to "show her work" and explain her answer does she get into trouble. Which means that in a structured debate, with limited time for answers and likely little probing follow-up, she'll come off quite well. And given all the completely lowered expectations for her, that's quite unfortunate.

How the ** McCain could put the country in the position of having this woman as second in command is quite beyond me. But I'm so afraid that first impressions will carry her through the debate and give McCain the bounce he picked her for.


by fsm on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:57:32 PM EST

Re: The problem for the debates.... (none / 0)

She'll do fine until she gets asked something she doesn't know or something she only THINKS she knows, like the Hamas answer. She'll be speaking for 45 minutes, mostly on things that she won't know very well. And she can't make ONE mistake. Biden can't either, but he knows enough to know what would make a splash. She doesn't.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:55:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Contrast. (none / 0)

Man, Obama could just run those two interviews back-to-back as an ad.  The contrast between Biden's clearly knowing things and Palin's agonizing silence on things other than Roe is painful to watch.


*meh*
by failsafe on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:55:50 PM EST


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