Rasmussen: California a Tossup

Some people pooh-poohed the results of internal polling from a ballot initiative campaign showing Barack Obama coming on strong in California. But now data from a public pollster, Rasmussen Reports, shows largely the same trend.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in California shows Hillary Clinton with a very narrow three-percentage point lead over Barack Obama. The survey was conducted in the hours immediately following Florida's Presidential Primary and before John Edwards dropped out of the race.

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Obama had a narrow 43% to 41% advantage among the party's liberal voters while Clinton held a 45% to 35% edge among moderate voters.

Obama held a three-point lead among white voters in the state while Clinton had a twenty-seven point lead among Hispanic voters.

Clinton trailed by eight points among men but led by ten among women.

It's important to note that a whole lot of Californians have already voted, so late breaking trends in the state could end up being less pronounced in terms of actual results. Note, for instance, that in Florida, which also has early voting, Obama actually beat Hillary Clinton 53 percent to 47 percent among those deciding in the last month who to vote for but nevertheless lost overall 50 percent to 33 percent.

Nevertheless, most signs are pointing to serious movement by Obama in California (and in Massachusetts, as well, where he's now polling within 6 points). Whether it will be enough to overcome Clinton's advantage, which is compounded by her success at shoring up early support, remains to be seen.



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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

As a Clinton supporter, this is scary. I worried about this.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:26:25 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

The trendlines is only minus two points for Clinton. Two weeks ago they had her up by 5. Clearly their polling is tighter than everyone else.


by world dictator on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:57:14 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

If it makes you feel any better, SurveyUSA just polled OK and Obama is 3rd ...

Clinton: 44
Edwards: 27
Obama: 19


by kristoph on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 09:29:53 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Don't worry.

The Rasmussen polls in California have always been 'tight.' Here are the polls (from pollster.com) for the week around the last time Rasmussen did a CA poll.

Dates / Num. / Pop. / Clin. / Ed. / Oba. / Und.
1/14/08    897 LV    38    12    33    13 -- Rasmussen
1/14-20/08    377 LV    39    10    27    20 -- Field
1/13-20/08    543 LV    43    11    28    11 -- PPIC
1/11-14/08    578 LV    43    15    31    9 -- Datamar
1/11-13/08    810 LV    50    10    35    2 -- SurveyUSA
1/11-13/08    384 LV    47    10    31    6 -- CNN/LATimes/ Politico

Note that the closest any of the other polls has it is 12 points. The 'shift' from 5 points to 3 points is within the margin of error for their own polls. SurveyUSAs latest poll (1/27/2008) also shows a shift within their own margin of error, with Clinton up by 11 points.

To me this poll doesn't say there's marked movement, but rather that things are staying about the same as they have been for the past two weeks. The Obama campaign would be wise to play down expectations of a close race, because if Clinton wins by 10+ points, they will have a lot of explaining to do and/or excuses to make. And given that a number of reports have shown the Edwards supporters splitting fairly evenly, I don't think they can expect a big (relative) bump from that.


by joc on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:12:54 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

   Don't these polls include early voters?  The Florida polls were rather accurate and took into account the strength of Clinton in early voting.  I don't think pollsters are thrown off their game by early voting...  


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:34:09 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

O I just post a diary about this. The chips are falling at the right time for Obama. Key finding: Obama leads among white voters. So much for the racial divide


"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod
by Jr1886 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:34:30 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

I don't know about Rasmussen's California polls. For some reason, their CA polls show Clinton & Obama closer than other polls. Regardless, their poll two weeks ago had Clinton leading by 5 ponts, so this is a very small shift.


by LakersFan on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:35:01 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (2.00 / 1)

Rasmussen runs a fully automated, national, poll. It does not break out who already voted.

It mainly gives you a 'leaning' indicator (which direction people are leaning and how strongly). Rasmussen has significantly more undecideds in his poll for this reason (for CA) where in the same polls by other pollsters there are more Clinton supporters. (Note that this is consistent in Rasmussen polls, and not necessarily indicative of people being unsure in their vote for Clinton).


by kristoph on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:17:54 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Thanks for the info.


by LakersFan on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:27:57 PM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

The last poll had it at 38 - 33  , not much movement to me.

By the way I would wait for survey usa to poll these states .

While rasmussen was showing a 38 - 33 gap the last time , other polls like la times , survy usa etc had an entirely different set of numbers for the same period.

Plus the numbers on the republican side doesn't conform with other numbers I have seen. Infact it looks out of whack.

Obama might be moving but I would wait for survey usa.

Rasmussen has missed a lot of its mark on the early states so I am a bit skeptical.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:35:51 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

I agree with your analysis Lori. We still need more data to see if its a real movement for Obama. However, I find Obama leading among white voters interesting. This mirrored what Survey USA found in their last poll in which Obama and Clinton were statically tied.


"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod
by Jr1886 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:41:37 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Obama has had a couple of days with great news , I don't doubt that he would move a bit and the white/black divide seems to be more prominent in southern states .

I particularly don't by all of that race crap , but it does tend to be more pronounced in Southern states I don't expect that in a state like california.

Survey Usa and la times poll factor in early voting which has been huge in which clinton has a big lead but I don't think Rasmussen does that.

I think their numbers are just precinct voting which  might be reflected in the numbers.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:50:58 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

I'd bet they do factor in early voting... they can always ask if people have already voted.


by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:59:48 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

  Oh, I'd also like to add that Obama is winning white voters.  Hillary is winning Hispanics by a large margin.  


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:36:25 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Again, I simply don't trust Rasmussen's one-day polls. Would it kill them to do a multi-day poll? Why don't they?

As LakersFan notes, this is actually only a small shift from their previous results, which showed a 5-point margin between the two. That poll was a big outlier then.


by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:40:26 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

    Rasmussen predicted 47-25 in Florida.  That was dead on.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:45:27 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (2.00 / 1)

I think this line from Rasmussen's article on their Florida poll reveals a lot about their mathematical skills:

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Florida finds Senator Hillary Clinton leading Barack Obama by nineteen percentage points, 47% to 25%.


by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:50:14 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

   Don't be petty.  They nailed the outcome.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:53:48 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Well, they missed the margin by five points.


by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:56:59 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

 Florida results were 50-33, a 17 point difference.  Rasmussen didn't try to predict where last minute undecideds would go.  They were off by one point. But then I don't care if you believe the polls.  Nitpick and hate on Rasmussen to your heart's content.

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:02:06 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

  Oops my math is bad too.  good night.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:04:07 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

On the other hand, if you look at their last poll it was 10pt different then the other polls done in CA.

So if this is the case in this poll you would have other polls showing a 12pt+ lead.

Having said that, I am sure Obama did better, but really with Edwards pulling out and the debate tonight the picture really won't be that clear until Saturday.


by kristoph on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:22:03 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

A one-day SurveyUSA poll from Sunday shows an 11-point Clinton lead. Again, this is a one-day poll, so take it with a grain of salt.


by OrangeFur on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:46:45 AM EST

stop the spin from Florida (none / 0)

Of the people who voted on Tuesday.

Clinton 48
Obama 34
Edwards 15

That is where the race was on Tuesday night.  Ther is no plausible reason to think that Obama's support was undercounted, when no canidate campaigned there.

Now in the next few days we can see what these polls from Rasmussen and Gallup mean.

But remember from rasmussen,

The race "closed" to
36 -  33 on the 1/26 1 night before s.c.

and then

jumped to

40 - 31 on 1/27  1 night after s.c.

and since has remained rather steady

Hillary btwn  39   - 41==   41 yesterday
Obama   from  31    -32==   32 yesterday

So you can't have it both ways:
with rasmussen Obama has stalled out nationally, but surging in California?


by yellowdem1129 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 06:07:18 AM EST

Re: stop the spin from Florida (none / 0)

TODAY'S rASMUSSEN POLL(DAILY TRACKING)

CLINTON 42
Obama 35

THIS SEEMS TO MIRROR gALLUP'S TRACKING POLL OF CLINTON 42
OBAMA 36


by BDM on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:06:33 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

I can't speak to the CA numbers, but being from MA, I would be shocked if Obama won MA.  He got the fancy endorsements from Gov. Patrick, Kerry, and Kennedy - but who do you think got out the vote for Patrick last year? The same MA pols that have all endorsed Hillary - Tom Menino, Sal DiMasi, Stephen Lynch, Barney Frank ... I could go on.
Even in an local news interview when they asked Kerry if he thought Obama could win in MA, he was stumbling over his answer - which was clearly a no.

by AnnC on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 06:34:51 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

I don't think he will win there by Ted's endorsement is going to give him at least 10-15 points.

MA may not be a victory for Obama but it won't be a huge net delegate gain for Clinton.


by kristoph on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:43:07 AM EST
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As a Californian, I'll be just as shocked (none / 0)

if he wins out here.  On NPR today the reporter with the Obama campaign said that the campaign recognizes the California is Clinton country and so he'll have almost no events in California leading up to Super Tuesday and is instead concentrating on other states trying to offset California (yeah, good luck with that).  

Obama's schedule from the Washington Post appears to confirm this.  Instead, he's only in LA today, when he has to be for the debate.  Here's Obama's schedule:

Thursday, January 31, 2008
8:30 a.m., Town Hall in Los Angeles, CA.
8 p.m., Debate in Hollywood, CA.
Time N/A, Fundraiser in Hollywood, CA.
Time N/A, Appearance in Stamford, CT. (Spouse)
Time N/A, Debate in Los Angeles, CA.

Friday, February 1, 2008
5 p.m., Appearance in Santa Fe, NM.
Time N/A, Appearance in Albuquerque, NM.

Saturday, February 2, 2008
Time N/A, Appearance in Boise, ID.
Time N/A, Appearance in Minneapolis, MN.
Time N/A, Appearance in St. Louis, MO.

Sunday, February 3, 2008
Time N/A, Appearance in Chicago, IL.

Tuesday, February 5, 2008
Time N/A, Appearance in Chicago, IL.

Here's Hillary's schedule:

Thursday, January 31, 2008
3 p.m., Rally in Albuquerque, NM. (Spouse)
8 p.m., Debate in Hollywood, CA.
8:30 p.m., Rally in Tempe, AZ. (Spouse)
Time N/A, Debate in Los Angeles, CA.

Friday, February 1, 2008
12:30 p.m., Town Hall in San Diego, CA.
4 p.m., Rally in San Jose, CA.
7 p.m., Fundraiser in San Francisco, CA.

Saturday, February 2, 2008
9 a.m., Rally in Los Angeles, CA.
6 p.m., Debate in New York, NY.

Now, her California events are probably aimed at shoring up her support.  But if Obama were really a threat here, I'd be seeing him places other than on my television set.


by BDB on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:56:45 PM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Rasmussen's polling methods definitely love Obama.  They have him tied in CT and down by single digits in CA and MA, all states where other pollsters are showing very large Clinton leads.  We'll see where this goes.  I expect tightening (Obama seems to be able to close down 10-15 points as soon as he starts campaigning anywhere), but I won't believe that this is a 3 point race until there is some confirmation.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 06:52:51 AM EST

Some good for Obama (none / 0)

But it still looks like someone is dissecting all the polling data and cherry picking the pieces that look best for Obama. Seems more like manipulating the data than taking an objective look.


by Cleveland John on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 08:24:40 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

In a counter intuitive way Rasmussen's "tossup" poll hopefully will keep Clinton's California supporters on their toes and not allow complacency to set in. I hope Latino voters will turn out in record numbers as they perhaps sense this is their moment to supplant African American voters as the key minority vote in the Democratic party with Hillary Clinton as their vehicle to achieving this, as one poster at Salon.com put it. For her part I hope Hillary will continue to stress the economy as she has in the past few days, and not get distracted by Obama's attacks on the Clinton legacy.


by superetendar on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 09:25:41 AM EST

Anna Eshoo (CA-14)... (none / 0)

endorsed Barack Obama late yesterday (by the way, a 65 year old woman).  The 14th Congressional District of California includes about half of Silicon Valley and Palo Alto.

Obama will win Silicon Valley and Hollywood, our (and maybe the country's) two highest profile industries.


Our Moment Is Now
by mboehm on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 09:52:07 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

the analysis in several posts above is right; this poll shouldn't be shocking because sometime ago, Rasmussen had a 5 point gap between the two and now a 3, so statistically speaking, nothing has changed.

However, compare the last poll where 5 points separated, SurveyUSA had Clinton up by 9-11 points and LA Times had her 17 points above.

But, things could be getting tight.

The racial divide is not for the latte drinking elitists, which live in CA, NJ, CT and MA.

It is more important in MO, AR, OK, AZ, CO, TN.


by American1989 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 09:58:03 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Your tainted and bias view really blinds you from the truth... they would MUCH rather face Hillary especially against McCain...  That's why they rallied around McCain.  Obama's old/new contrast works well against McCain and unlike Hillary, OBAMA can hit McCain on Iraq.  


by yitbos96bb on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:17:57 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

They would rather have Clinton than Obama to fight against?  Get serious...  Name ONE Republican who has attacked Obama ~crickets~...  The gushing corporate media and a gleeful GOP are praying for Obama b/c they know they will slaughter him in the general election.  The attacks against Clinton have been vicious and nonstop for obvious reasons -- they fear her.  


by votethegopout on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:30:35 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Obama doesn't need to WIN california... He just needs to make it close.  The closer he can get in Cali and Ny, the better off he is.


by yitbos96bb on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:19:15 AM EST

California "early voting" (none / 0)

I don't think that California's "early voting" will affect the race very much. It's called "early voting", but it's really just the same as an absentee ballot. You have to apply for a mail ballot, then they send it to you and you send it back. Same old system with a new name.


by blueheron on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:37:06 AM EST

Re: California "early voting" (none / 0)

Except many people who use "early voting" voted weeks ago, so they haven't been affected by S.C., Edwards dropping out, etc.


by LakersFan on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:36:18 PM EST
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Show me more (none / 0)

Rasmussen is really inconsistant.

Didn't he have Hillary ahead in Iowa in the final days?

He conducts a zillion polls a day and then touts the 2 that end up being right.


by dpANDREWS on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:47:40 AM EST

Re: Show me more (none / 0)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ 2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus -208.html

Rasmussen doesn't seem to have polled IA in the days leading up to the caucus.  ARG had Clinton ahead.

Regardless, the Rasmussen polls definitely seem out of line with the other pollsters unless there has been a major shift in support in the last 2 days.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:53:36 AM EST
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I was thinking of the 12/17 (none / 0)

poll ... not exactly on the eve of election

http://www.pollster.com/08-IA-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php


by dpANDREWS on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:08:12 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Everybody seems to forget that it isn't about who "wins" certain states. It can be completely meaningless if Clinton beats Obama by 4 or 5% in California because this is a race for delegates. Since the states award by proportional representation, a win by clinton, or obama, in a certain state by a few percentage points may just mean that they each get the same share of delegates from that state.


by mecarr on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:50:04 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

While that is true, it is still very important who wins a state.  If, say, Clinton wins 16 or 18 of the 22 states, then that is a very strong picture for her to come out with on Super Tuesday, regardless of delegate count.  

For the record, though, I think she will have a strong delegate advantage after Tuesday.  


by georgep on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 10:57:33 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Rasmussen polls are odd.  They showed a 5% race 2 weeks ago when everybody else had it solid for Clinton.  I bet if they polled Tennessee they would show a very close race, when everybody else is showing Clinton in a very strong position in TN.   Let's see where other pollsters go with this, but I don't think this is too credible (without further verification) when Rasmussen's own national tracking poll shows Clinton at +9%.  


by georgep on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:00:27 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

Their national poll today showed a tightening:
Clinton 42
Obama 35

Consistent with Gallup's poll yesterday
Clinton 42
Obama 36

Trendline is going Obama's way. He clearly has the momentum


by BDM on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:11:02 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

This really should be updated to note that a week ago Ramussen had Hillary ahead by five points while all other polls had her up by double digits. 2 points is not much movement for what has happened in the last week.


by Christopher Lib on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:10:54 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: National poll just released (none / 0)

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it's now Hillary Clinton 42% and Barack Obama 35%. (see recent daily numbers). Last night was the first night of interviews without John Edwards in the race. For last night's data alone, Clinton and Obama were essentially even. Samples for individual nights are very small and results should be interpreted with caution. The next Presidential Tracking Poll


by BDM on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:14:33 AM EST
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there is no way (none / 0)

there are 22% undecided in a national race with 2 people.

My guess is that Florida voters had it about right:

Clinton 48
Obama  34
Edwards 15

split the edwards vote clinton 3 edwards 9 un 3

Clinton  51
Obama   43
undecideds 7

This is my prediction of the state of the race today.


by yellowdem1129 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:16:02 AM EST

Re: there is no way (none / 0)

The race is dynamic and not static. The momentum is moving towards Obama. Tomorrows Zogby and Gallup poll will show it even closer.

No pollster would do what you are doing by splitting the differences.

We have not heard from other pollster's yet but we will today.


by BDM on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:03:54 PM EST
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there are 2 southern polls from IA (none / 0)

1 from ga and 1 from tenn

ga.  Obama up big
tenn clinton up big

both demos favor clinton:
tenn whites 64   -  18,
ga   whites 51   -  33,


by yellowdem1129 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:19:45 AM EST

Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

are there internals?


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:01:24 PM EST

Latinos (none / 0)

Do you think the Latinos are going to break for Obama? I mean, I suppose they could. I suppose San Francisco could put Mike Huckabee over the top, too.

It ain't gonna happen.


by cc on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:10:34 PM EST

Re: Rasmussen: is a Republican pollsters (none / 0)

1. His polls always favors Obama since he polls more Republicans and Indie. His national approval rating for Bush runs 5 points ahead of all other polls how do you explain that. So any lead there for Clinton is actually a +5 lead.

2. Most of these polls were conducted when it was all Obama all the time. Wait for some that are after Clintons FL win.


by bayareasg on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:17:36 PM EST

Re: Rasmussen: is a Republican pollsters (none / 0)

The FL win meant nothing.  Even her phony victory rally celebrating her win of 0 delegates isn't enough to sway people.  The outcome was right on expectations and she won nothing.  There is no momentum from that.  The two national tracking polls have actually been closing significantly in the last two days with post-FL beaty contest days being added.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:28:29 PM EST
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But she beat him inthe last 2-3 days (none / 0)

People who decided just before decided for her....and that's interesting


by debcoop on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:35:19 PM EST

Re: Latest Gallup tracking poll just out (none / 0)

The latest Democratic numbers show Hillary Clinton with a 43% to 39% advantage over Barack Obama among Democratic voters nationwide. That 4-point lead is the narrowest since early January, and it is a continuation of gains by Obama. The impact of John Edwards' exit from the Democratic race is less clear. Wednesday night's numbers (the first with Edwards excluded from the ballot) show no clear indication that either candidate is benefiting disproportionately. Clinton and Obama will debate in California tonight, which could affect Democrats' support for the two candidates going into the weekend before Super Tuesday's primaries and caucuses. -- Jeff Jones

Methodology: Gallup is interviewing 1,000 U.S. adults nationwide each day during 2008. The results reported here are based on combined data from Jan. 28-30, 2008, including interviews with 1,020 Republican and Republican-leaning voters and 1,286 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters. For results based on these samples, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points. In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.


by BDM on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:07:57 PM EST
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Re: Latest Gallup tracking poll just out (none / 0)

Actually, for 1,286 Dem voters, the MOE of sampling error is a little smaller, more like 2.8%.

But still, given the fairly strong negative correlation between Hillary's and Obama's poll numbers (i.e. when one goes up, the other is likely to go down), the MOE of the difference is about 5%, so this is a 'statistical tie,' as they say - one can't be 95% sure that Hillary's really favored by more Dems than Obama.  (More like 88% sure, if you're wondering, and if I've done my arithmetic correctly.)


by RT on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:58:44 PM EST
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Re: Rasmussen: California a Tossup (none / 0)

You have got to be kidding me.  Hillary is the worst possible candidate we could nominate.  At the very best, she would be able to eke out a slim win over McCain while likely costing us key Congressional seats.  Obama could do so much more.  2008 is not the year to waste our capital on Clinton.  


by Toddwell on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:15:09 PM EST

Fairy Tales (2.00 / 1)

"Name one Republican who has attacked Obama."

It's kind of embarrassing that you think they won't drag him through the swamp if he wins the nomination. They will make Bill Clinton's phony, trumped up "racial" attacks look like they came from the Teletubbies.

"He is the president most like my father."

What--Mike Dukakis and Walter Mondale didn't remind her of her father? Man, that's a tough field of competition for any budding Kennedy clone.

"Florida meant nothing. It was a stunt."

Yes, those voting patterns were a fairy tale. Nothing to worry about at all. Women, Latinos, and the rural poor are going to see the light and support BO because he rawks.

You're whistling past the graveyard. There are a lot of great things about being young. But blind idol worship and extreme gullibility are not among them.


by cc on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:12:49 PM EST

Re: Fairytales (none / 0)

cc right on point!  I'm not willing to lose the 08' election because we decide to elect a freshman senator.


by nzubechukwu on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:53:34 PM EST

Re: Fairytales (none / 0)

Im not willing to lose Congressional seats because we decide to nominate a candidate who doesn't care about party building and will motivate the Republican base.  


by Toddwell on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 04:08:59 PM EST
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