GOP Florida Primary Still A Dead Heat

Going into the Republican vote in Florida on Tuesday, the polls couldn't be tighter but you can't deny, John McCain has had a heck of a couple days, seeming to shut off Romney's momentum and gaining some of his own. From what I'm hearing, prognosticators would have given it to Romney a couple of days ago without question; now, they're not so certain -- it's a matter of whether the McCain surge is real or just a temporary bump. Whereas three polls taken entirely on Sunday had McCain and Romney tied, the most recent poll out of Florida, Survey USA (979 LVs, 1/27-28, MOW +/- 3.2%), shows that John McCain had a good Monday, although not so much so that it would lead me to predict the result with any confidence.

CandidateSurvey USA 1/27-28Survey USA 1/27RCP 7-poll Ave.
McCain31.631.329.9
Romney31.231.929.1

In other words, by just adding Monday to the polling time range, McCain nets 1 point over Romney. Not exactly earth shattering but worth noting all the same, especially when we dig a bit deeper into the poll and find where McCain's Monday gain came from: early voters.

As of Sunday, the LVs who told both SUSA and Insider Advantage pollsters that they had already voted were evenly split between Romney and McCain. That shifted dramatically on Monday as you can see from the SUSA numbers of those who've already voted (disclaimer, these voters make up just 25% of the entire voter sample, so the MOE is very high):

CandidateSurvey USA 1/27-28Survey USA 1/27
McCain3631
Romney3136

A ten point net gain in voters who say they already voted for McCain just adding Monday's results. It seems almost unbelievable, it's such a dramatic shift, so I don't see it as determinative without further confirmation, but it certainly would indicate, if true, that Romney's going to have to have a very good day on Tuesday with election day voters if he intends to pull this out.

In addition to the early vote, another variable that will contribute to tonight's result is what Giuliani and Huckabee supporters decide to do once they enter the voting booth.

As Josh Marshall observes:

As the battle has become more and more clearly a McCain-Romney race and one quite likely to settle the GOP nomination, I think there's a good chance that Huckabee and Giuliani significantly underperform their margins. Because people want to actually have a say in who becomes the nominee rather than throwing their vote away on Rudy or Huck. That potentiallly throws a lot of other votes into the mix that could push either McCain or Romney past the finish line.

On this very topic, both Craig Crawford and Pat Buchanan said on MSNBC last night that they've heard there's word going out to evangelicals that "a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain," implying that it's being recommended to the Christian community that they vote strategically for Mitt Romney in order to stop McCain, whom they find unacceptable.

Add to that Rudy Giuliani's signals on Monday that his campaign may not be long for this world (saying the winner of Florida will be the nominee and leaving autographed baseballs - going away presents perhaps? -- for the press on his plane...) one has to wonder if he was in essence giving his blessing to his supporters to jump to another candidate. But to which candidate? Conventional wisdom would dictate that his supporters would be far more likely to shift to McCain, but again, we're left with the unknowns of how much lower these guys' actual support is today than their pre-election polling had indicated.

As I've written this, two new polls incorporating Monday polling have come to my attention, which I'm sorry to say, do nothing to clear things up as it's an even split, although still within the MOE. Below find the results of the new Braynard Methodology poll (500 LVs, Jan. 28, MOE +/- 4%) and the Reuters/CSPAN/Zogby tracking poll (941 LVs, Jan. 27-28, MOE +/- 3.3%.)

CandidateBraynard Methodology 1/28Reuters/Zogby 1/27-28
Romney37.831 (30)
McCain35.735 (33)

The Braynard poll would appear to push undecideds, which, by this model, go to Romney, but there's some dire news in the Zogby poll for Romney if true:

"Senator McCain seems to have consolidated support among conservatives, where he now leads by 7 points, perhaps as a result of the strong endorsements he received over the weekend from conservative Gov. Charlie Crist and Republican Sen. Mel Martinez. He is leading handsomely among moderates, and appears to be picking up support from likely voters who might otherwise have gone to Rudy Giuliani."

Then again, the poll that got closest to predicting Obama's SC margin of victory, Democratic polling outfit Public Policy Polling, does have Romney up by 7.

Despite the uncertainty of the result, I'm going to go with Romney as my prediction, partially out of wishful thinking but also because the one poll that was taken entirely on Monday has him slightly ahead, and looking at the SUSA internals, McCain's support appears much softer than Romney's, which tells me the bump that Crist gave McCain will disappear as quickly as it materialized. I'm also counting on conservatives (evangelical and otherwise) breaking for Romney. Final prediction: Mitt by 3. Care to lay one down?



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Re: GOP Florida Primary Still A Dead Heat (none / 0)

I think the one-two punch by Crist and Martinez put McCain over the top.  My prediction: McCain by 3.


by markjay on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:20:43 AM EST

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I agree.  I'll say McCain by 4, 36 - 32.


A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy. - Teddy Roosevelt
by minvis on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:03:19 AM EST
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Re: GOP Florida Primary Still A Dead Heat (none / 0)

The polls have been all over the place all cycle so it could go either way. I'm with Todd though - wishful thinking says Romney but by 5.

Romney 35
McCain 30
Giuliani 15
Huckabee 15
Paul 5


by conspiracy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:38:08 AM EST

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I'm going to go with Romney by 2, but only because I heard a McCain stump speech on CSPAN radio while driving to work.  Can he complete a sentence without calling the crowd "My Friends"?

Also, if he knows how to catch bin Laden why won't he give Dubya a call?

 


by howie14 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:09:02 AM EST

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I'm predicting a narrow win for Willard with voting irregularities in McCain-leaning counties. Supreme Court steps in and gives it to Huckabee.

Seriously, Romney by one.


Bush. McCain. - The result will be the same. JohnMcBush.com
by NoMcW on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:13:56 AM EST

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  Crap, ARG has Romney winning 34-32.  My prediction?  36-34 McCain.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:38:35 AM EST

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Romney 37, McCain 35.

I'm still hoping for a Romney win -- don't let me down now Mittster!


The Stone of Tear
by Callandor on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:04:41 AM EST

Re: GOP Florida Primary Still A Dead Heat (none / 0)

My money is on Romney!


by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:06:04 AM EST

a lot of evangelicals (none / 0)

still do not trust Romney. See this post by a strong Huckabee supporter, and the comments below:

http://makinghome.blogspot.com/2008/01/h ave-republicans-lost-their-way-and-if.ht ml

Key passage:

Course, I'm passionate about Huckabee as the best contender for President, as probably all of you know. But there is one candidate left that stands a chance that I believe I absolutely could not support (and that's Romney- because I don't believe his change of heart about abortion. There are too many inconsistencies, too late in life, for me to believe that his conversion is about anything but political expediency).


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:12:00 AM EST

forgot to add that I pick McCain to win (none / 0)

McCain 37
Romney 32
Huckabee 15
Giuliani 12
Paul 4
John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:14:14 AM EST
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I'll guess Romney wins by a razor thin margin (1% max) based on late breaking Conservatives going his way because they don't trust McCain.  As for Giuliani and Huckabee, I would guess that Rudy will seriously underperform his poll numbers and drop out tomorrow, but I'm not so sure that will be the case with Huckabee.  Huckabee's support base is grass roots and very narrowly focused among evangelicals.  It doesn't seem to me that those people would abandon him just to have a syain in the outcome.  Plus, Huckabee is still winning in some states, so his larger campaign outside FL is not dead in the water if he loses in FL the same way Rudy's is (who has even gone significantly behind in his strongest base in NY, NJ, CT, and PA).


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:18:54 AM EST

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On the Dem side, I'll go out on a limb and say that Hillary wins the popular vote by 25 points, but the three candidates tie in the delegate count 0-0-0.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:21:55 AM EST
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Romney will win by two to three points.  Huckabee voters are realizing that a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain.  His ground organization is stronger and McCain's desperate last minute tactics regarding Time Tables is backfiring in Florida.  Also people in Florida who are voting on the Economy  are voting for Romney by a 2 to 1 margin.  


by nzubechukwu on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:46:15 AM EST

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Hillary will win in a blow-out; there will be a Clinton rally, and like Michigan, inevitably those delegates will be seated.  

Perhaps to the Clinton-hating MSM, Florida is insignificant.  

In fact, it is THE most significant and representative primary thus far--extremely telling of Super Tuesday.


by lambros on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:55:43 AM EST

My meaningless opinion (none / 0)

based on my own long term observations, there are two states that seem impossible to poll: Florida and New Jersey.

Therefore I am using the Steve Colbert 'gut method'   Romney by 7, McCain is toast.


by Cleveland John on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:04:04 AM EST

Final Margin Will Be Similar to the 2000 GE (none / 0)

A few hundred or few thousand votes decides all the delegates. I'll say Romney but obviously when it is that close it is impossible to say who eeks out on top.


by Davidsfr on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:29:30 AM EST

my prediction (none / 0)

McCain 39
Romney 32
Huckabee 13
Giuliani 12
Paul 4

It will be a bigger win than you think for McSurge.


by mikelow1885 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:54:32 AM EST

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I think Romney wins, but it would be interesting. Romney lied and won Michigan. McCain lied and won Florida?

Is lying the way to win nowadays?

My predict;

Romney 37
McCain 35
Giuliani 14
Huckabee 11
Paul 4


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:56:57 AM EST

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Romney 35%
McCain 32%
Giuliani 15%
Huckabee 14%
Paul 4%
What would LBJ do?
by Socks The Cat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:58:55 AM EST

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-129elect ionday,0,6968764,print.story

Will this have an effect (read about 2/3 down)?  Apparently, independents that are showing up to vote for the property tax measure are being told they have to vote on a party ballot.  The guy they interviewed said he voted for McCain, even though he is technically not allowed to do so (and even told the poll workers as much himself).  I can't believe this could possibly be terribly widespread, but this race is going down to the wire, so every vote counts.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:16:58 AM EST


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