Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread

Follow along in the comments.

Sheesh, she's repeating lines straight from Obama's stump speech. "We're not nearly as divided as our politics might suggest." She has, of course, announced her endorsement of Obama.

Update [2008-1-28 22:23:22 by Todd Beeton]:Yes, Governor, this was an opportunity for a partisan response, to state the obvious: Bush is nothing more than an obstructor in chief and it is the Democrats who have the ideas America wants for our country, and Republicans who are opposed to them. She's asking Bush "to join us?" Is she kidding?

Update [2008-1-28 22:23:22 by Todd Beeton]:Yikes, well, she's no Jim Webb, is she?

Update [2008-1-28 22:24:47 by Todd Beeton]:Was this her VP slot audition? Cuz I'm afraid she didn't make the cut.



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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

I made the comment in the other thread that she's an awful choice.  She's monotone, clearly reading (and poorly at that), and has no passion.  It's as though she's trying to put us to sleep!

Al Gore should have given the speech.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:20:44 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

Man she is horrible. This is very boring. If I'm an average voter who pays more attention to delievery and rhetoric than content, I think I'm more swayed by Bush.


by world dictator on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:21:46 PM EST
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I wasn't watching, but (none / 0)

I am surprised she did so poorly. I saw her speak in person once, and she was great.

Of course, she wasn't reading a script of someone else's talking points on that occasion...


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by desmoinesdem on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:26:45 PM EST
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Re: I wasn't watching, but (2.00 / 1)

Perhaps if she had focused more on giving a Democratic response and less on polishing up her Obama endorsement, it would've gone better.

Seriously, in what world is it in the democratic party's interest to give Congressional Republicans co-credit for the few things Congress has been able to get done since the Dems took over.  Those nice bipartisan Republicans have set a record for filibusters.  If I didn't know better, I'd swear from listening to this that Bush was the only one standing in the way of progress - no focus on the men and women who are his enablers on the HIll, all of whom will be on the ballot next year.

I don't expect strong partisanship from a Dem like her, but I do expect at least a little self respect.  No wonder Republicans love smacking Democrats around - we always come back and ask for more.


by BDB on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:46:40 PM EST
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Re: I wasn't watching, but (none / 0)

I call it "Battered Democrat Syndrome". Democrats who have been beaten for so long by bully Republicans all they can do is cower in the corner and plead for bi-partisanship.

And, keep in mind, I'm a DLC centrist, so I'm not looking for wacko fringe left rabble-rousing. But, Jesus H. Christ, grow at least a little spine, Democrats.


by hwc on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:21:24 AM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

i've waited all day


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by sepulvedaj3 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:46:08 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I'm still considering.  It's ready though.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:49:41 AM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I'm asleep.


by Zeitgeist9000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:21:09 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 0)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ


by lonnette33 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:22:38 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

BRING BACK GOV. KAINE FROM LAST YEAR!

"There is a better way..."


by Zeitgeist9000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:23:43 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

now thats humor.


by bruh21 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:31 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Oh wait that was 2006.


by Zeitgeist9000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:47 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Jim Webb was 2007.  Kaine was 2006.


by Zeitgeist9000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:26:05 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I thought James Webb was absolutely fantastic last year.  Definitely VP material.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:25 PM EST

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Ooh, that could be the final straw to take VA.


by JoeFelice on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:29:01 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

From the moment he finished speaking last year that was my hope, whomever the nominee.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:32:55 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

This is worse than watching Bush!!


by musicpvm on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:30 PM EST

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Now do you see the problem that a lot of have with Obama's rhetoric? Some of these people are so clueless. Hillary has said "I'm proud to be a Democrat!". Would you even get that from the kumbaya post partisan crowd?


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by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:24:31 PM EST

Boooring!!! (none / 0)

Man, what a yawner. If it was coming out of Obama's mouth it might be good but zzzzzzz.

I think Jim Webb should give every Democratic response. All the time, every time.


by alexmhogan on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:25:01 PM EST

If Camp Clinton (none / 0)

merged with Democratic Underground --

I think the current state of MyDD is about what we'd get.


by zonk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:25:42 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

She's awful!!! Is this what Obama is gonna be like in the general? his is not how we will defeat the Republicans in November.  HILLARY 2008!


Hillary 2008!
by New York Democrat on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:26:43 PM EST

off-topic (none / 0)

Have you thought about changing your sig line? Something linking to an unflattering article about McCain or Romney might be more timely.


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by desmoinesdem on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:28:04 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 0)

Bore us into submission.  Like Lutheran school all over again.  SLEEP WELL she said...

In cockney voice: "I'm already there, guv'nah!"


by Zeitgeist9000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:27:35 PM EST

Governor Sebelius (none / 0)

I like Sebelius. I always said if Edwards was the one nominated, she should be his VP. But I never listened to her speak and God, she's boring.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:28:05 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius (2.00 / 0)

It wasn't her finest hour thats for sure. I have heard her give good speeches though.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:32:27 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Webb will be a great running mate for Obama.  Both of them opposed the war.  They showed excellent judgment and have been leaders in speaking out about national security.  


by mainelib on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:28:59 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I'm not a huge fan of Webb like everyone else.  He's got FISA issues that I find very annoying.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:27:23 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

wow, i signed off from mydd, but came back to say

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!

Join us BUSH? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! I DONT WANT BUSH


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:29:02 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

This is it - the Obama agenda.  Get used to it.


by ocli on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:29:51 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 3)

It's like Obama morphed into a white woman and lost his ability to speak.


by Tove on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:29:58 PM EST

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And I'm not talking about Hillary! So don't go there! =D


by Tove on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:00:49 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

She is a Democratic Governor of a Red State what were you expecting?


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:30:08 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

That doesn't make her an idiot.  In fact, she far from being dumb.  I'm sure she could have come up with something that wasn't right from Obama's stump speech.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:21:52 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

But she didn't. I'm embarassed to be from Kansas tonight. My own Governor was injected with enough Prosac to make her appear comatose. I have never seen a worse performance. Ever.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:41:47 PM EST
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Do you have any info on (none / 0)

how she was tapped to give the Dem. response to SOTU?  Since she has already endorsed Obama, seems like she shouldn't have gotten the not for tonight.


by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:38:47 AM EST
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Re: Do you have any info on (none / 0)

I was wondering that myself. Whoever decides these things should have chosen someone who is neutral in the race and she certainly should never have been allowed to use Obama's theme for her response.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:20:58 AM EST
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Response to my same question (none / 0)

at Talk Left:  congressional leaders.  But I'd like to know who gets to make this decision, and specifically made it in this case.


by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:53:01 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Yeah, it's the style, not the substance, that people go for with Obama. The words, the content, are pretty empty when you see them without Obama's oratory.


by souvarine on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:31:08 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Exactly my reaction.  My husband said "This woman is Obama overdosing on sleeping pills."  But it was a dramatic illlustration of the Obama philosophy minus the fizz.  God, the soppy platitudes were endless...and did you catch that absolutely mind-boggling sentence: "Their futures will never be the same."  


by miriam on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:05:41 AM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Yes, Governor, this was an opportunity for a partisan response, to state the obvious: Bush is nothing more than an obstructor in chief and it is the Democrats who have the ideas America wants for our country, and Republicans who are opposed to them. She's asking Bush "to join us?" Is she kidding?

This is exactly the problem that I have with Obama. Republicans have had eight years to run the country. They've had their chance. Its foolish of us to use our time to run on "can't we all just get along". Now is the time to rebrand conservatism into the "philosophy that doesn't work."

Ronald Reagan didn't transform the country by being post partisan, he transformed the country by uniting the American people under the ideals of conservatism. Ronald Reagan was the ultimate hyper-partisan.

Obama wants to build a coalition around himself, not the democratic party.


by world dictator on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:31:14 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

[quote]Obama wants to build a coalition around himself, not the democratic party.[/quote]

Hey, maybe he and Bill aren't so different after all!


by johnny longtorso on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:46:12 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' (none / 0)

And David Brooks thinks that Obama is great. Should tell you something there too.


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by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:31:17 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I am for edwards but the lady is pathetic   for Obama or not she is a bad joke


by marketingman on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:35:50 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

WTF is Obama talking about! He cannot talk!


by lonnette33 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:36:17 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 0)

Sigh.... I'm so disappointed in Gov Sebelius. I know she can give a better speech than that because I've heard her do it. Whoever slipped her the Valium has a lot to answer for.


Rules for Life: Do not annoy others; Do not be too easily annoyed.
by Not the only Dem in KS on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:40:11 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

she wasnt slipped a valium. Thats what happens when you make someone give a stump speech, when they arent on the stump


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:44:56 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

The Valium comment was a joke. Guess I should have added one of those silly smiley faces.

The KC Star had an article this morning in which Gov Sebelius said she wrote the speech herself. Sadly, I don't think anyone "made" her give a stump speech. I kinda think she believes that "all we need is love" crap. You'd think that dealing with the Kansas legislature and the neanderthals who make up the Kansas Republican Party would have disabused her of those notions, but I guess not.


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by Not the only Dem in KS on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:55:36 PM EST
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yea i got that it was a joke - its just so frustrating


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:00:28 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Jim Webb was so much better. There was no passion in her voice and she sounded so depressing. More importantly, she should have advocated Democratic ideals and plans, because "this president" does'nt give a shit about regular Americans.  


by bsavage on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:44:56 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 0)

What an amazingly incompetent Democratic Response to kick off a vibrant election year. Sounded more like a concession speech, just begging for the Republicans to let us work with them on a few things here or there. More Democratic Party capituation:

Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones singing lord, kumbaya
Someones singing lord, kumbaya
Someones singing lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbayah

Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya


by hwc on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:49:42 PM EST

The Democratic Party (2.00 / 1)

The party of Michael Dukakis.

Whoever decided to waste ten minutes of live national airtime at the start of election year for an Obama supporter to give that speech ought to be shot. I though Bob Schrum had retired.


by hwc on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:53:44 PM EST

Re: The Democratic Party (none / 0)

I think he went to England to screw up their elections instead of ours.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:29:14 PM EST
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She was horrible (none / 0)

What a lousy speaker.

I nodded off.  What did she say?

She could not have been anymore momotone.   Clear she was not rehearsed and was reading from a prompter.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:01:51 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

she sounded nervous and somewhat unprepared. that being said, its amazing that this is somehow obama's fault!


by highgrade on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:03:43 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

It was an Obama supporter reading stuff lifted from Obama's stump speech. Who do you want to blame it on? Bill Clinton?


by hwc on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:07:36 PM EST
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What a real Democrat would say (none / 0)

A response from a real Democrat:

Tonight President Bush claimed that the state of our union is strong. And we can all debate that. But what is not up for debate is that for too many American families, the true "state of their lives" is one of economic anxiety and uncertainty.

As I've traveled across the country and visited with people in their homes, I have listened to the urgent problems they face. These families are resolute, and when it comes to their strength, optimism and hard work, the state of our union has never been stronger. Yet after seven years of stagnant wages, declining incomes and increasing inequality, our families are working harder and harder and still falling behind.

President Bush had one final chance tonight to acknowledge what the American people have known for years: that the economy is not working for middle class families. Unfortunately, what he offered was more of the same - a frustrating commitment to the same failed policies that helped turn record surpluses into large deficits, and push a thriving twenty-first century economy to the brink of recession.

We need a President who understands the urgent economic challenges our families face and who will work as hard for middle-class families as they work for America. I intend to be that President for the American people.

While I was heartened to hear the President acknowledge the need for immediate actions to jumpstart our economy, it will take more than tax rebates to fix our economic crisis and rebuild our economy for the future. We need immediate relief for people who are losing their jobs and facing skyrocketing home heating costs. And we need a comprehensive solution to the housing crisis. Every housing proposal the President made tonight, I made several months - and hundreds of thousands of foreclosure notices - ago. For example, I have proposed to enable the Federal Housing Administration to function as an alternative to the subprime market; and I have proposed to empower state housing finance agencies to help families refinance unworkable mortgages. But more is needed. So I have also called on the mortgage industry to observe a 90-day foreclosure moratorium on subprime mortgages and a 5-year freeze in rates on subprime loans.

We need a long-term economic vision to restore shared growth and prosperity for America's middle class. As President, I will work every day to create good high-paying jobs that can't be outsourced, restore fairness to our economy, renew the promise of America that if you work hard, you can get ahead, and restore real fiscal responsibility to Washington.

In Iraq, President Bush talked about the success of the surge. The Administration brandishes many numbers. The one I'm most focused on is that 2007 was the deadliest year for U.S. troops in Iraq. And the humanitarian situation remains devastating.

President Bush isn't satisfied with failure after failure in Iraq; he wants to bind the next President to his failed strategy by unilaterally negotiating with the Iraqi government about the future of the U.S.-Iraq security relationship, including the possibility of permanent U.S. bases in Iraq.

The Bush Administration says it does not even plan to submit this agreement to the Congress for approval, even though Iraqi officials plan to submit it to their parliament. It is an outrage that the Iraqi parliament will have an opportunity to debate this but the American Congress won't. We need to rein in this President. That is why I introduced the first legislation to require the President to submit any such agreement for congressional approval and to withhold any funding to carry out the agreement.

After seven long years of this Presidency, I am committed as President to solve problems, not ignore them. I am committed to working for the middle class, not just the privileged few. I am committed to restoring our leadership in the world through strong alliances, not alienating our friends. I am committed to working towards real solutions for real Americans every day as President of the United States.



by hwc on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:06:27 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (2.00 / 1)

This is the first time I've commented here.  I loved the Sebelius speech.

Let's keep shepherding the 2006 reallignments in purple state politics, folks.  It's like mixing a good ground game on the policy issues (which we already have) with a new passing game on the political support (which we need). . .


by vanetten on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:12:57 PM EST

Governor Sebelius landed it! (none / 0)

Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius read a very carefully worded and effective public speech without soaring empty rhetoric or good old empty rhetoric.

Her response will be remembered as an authetic presentation that made sense.


by dearreader on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:21:13 PM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius landed it! (2.00 / 2)

Her response won't be remembered at all.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:22:34 PM EST
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Geeze (none / 0)

You are not in touch with the public that would be my guess;  or have a sense of occasion in context of the collective culture and the significant majority of PEOPLE on the other side of the television screen.

Your happy - sad filter sounds off to me.

How could you not be grateful for a Kansas leader of the female Democratic persuasion bringing her response to Bush and the famous book 'What the heck happened to Kansas.'  

Fact check that title would ya and read it. Calculate if we have advanced constructively since that book was written. Its message made a big impact on the national identity.

Her speech was smart and well targeted.
 


by dearreader on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:45:16 PM EST
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Re: Geeze (none / 0)

You're conflating two very different things, albeit not successfully. Am I delighted that there is a woman Democrat who is governor of Kansas, that reddest of red states?  You bet your ass. I lived in Kansas City for 25 years, so I'm well aware of the situation.

But what we're talking about here is a speech, not the whole of Kansas politics.  It was a bad speech, poorly delivered.  No way around that.

And the name of the book is "What's the Matter with Kansas?", by Thomas Frank.  I read it a few years ago, thanks for asking.  Maybe you check you own happy/sad filter, whatever that means.


"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin
by Denny Crane on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:27:21 AM EST
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RE: Your second update... (none / 0)

When you say things like that, you show everyone how completely out of touch you are with what most Americans want at the moment.

I do a hell of a lot of canvassing and phone banking - and in all of it all I hear is that people are tired of partisan bickering. They want people in Washington to learn how to work together and actually fix things. You're asking Sebelius - Governor of a red state - to ignore the desire for bi-partisanship??

Completely out of touch.


by Elise on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:50:48 PM EST

Re: RE: Your second update... (none / 0)

she shouldnt have given the response


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:52:08 PM EST
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Re: RE: Your second update... (none / 0)

People have been tired of partisan bickering for 230 years.


by hwc on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:23:11 AM EST
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Re: RE: Your second update... (none / 0)

But, if you insist, why don't we end partisan bickering right now? All the Democrats have to do is agree to:

a) outlaw abortion

b) end affirmative action

c) commit to permanent bases in Iraq

d) Make the Bush tax cuts and oil company giveaways permanent and double them in the spirit of bi-partisanship.

e) Abolish education funding

Are you still ready for bi-partisanship and a chorus of kumbaya?


by hwc on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:25:20 AM EST
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Re: RE: Your second update... (none / 0)

Show me a time in Obama's record that he has ditched the progressive position in favor of the conservative one just to say that there could be agreement.

You can't.


by Elise on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 06:34:56 PM EST
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Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I'm embarrassed that there are people who actually want to rebrand the Democratic Party into this.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:10:27 AM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

I agree that people want to get things done. They have been told by the media and politicians like Obama and Sebelius that partisan bickering is what is preventing that.  In reality, the Democratic agenda is what people want accomplished, and Republicans are obstructing it.  Webb was right last year.


by ocli on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:39:23 AM EST

of course most Hillary people dislike it. (none / 0)

just because she is trying to reach out to all americans and isn't just preaching to the choir.

If you didn't notice it, she did give a partisan response but didn't use partisan tones to accomplish it.  She basically said that the country has moved on to a Democratic Majority and told the president that you can either join us or get left behind.

I think she did a great job.

I think you might have thought so too if she was endorsing Hillary today instead of Barack.


d
by d on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:53:08 AM EST

Re: Governor Sebelius' Democratic Response Thread (none / 0)

Sign the SCHIP bill that the Dems want.  A bloated spending bill that includes illegal aliens and adults.  The program is suppose to be for kids.  What the Dems want is a first step toward a national health care program which would be a national disaster.  Maybe you want the federal government in charge of your health care.  I don't.  

"We stand ready in the heartland and across this country, to join forces with peace-loving nations across the globe and to fight the war against terrorists, wherever they may strike.  But our capable and dedicated soldiers cannot solve the political disputes where they are and cannot focus on the real enemies elsewhere."  

Translation: We're going to let the UN dictate US foreign policy and we'll try to catch up to terrorists after they've struck somewhere!!!  Personally, I didn't know our soldiers' objective in Iraq and Afghanistan was to solve political disputes?  They are there fighting terrorists who are disrupting the political process in those countries and would be creating chaos around the world if it were not for our soldiers keeping them occupied.  I propose that they are fighting our enemies right where they should be fighting them.  Would it serve the Democrats better if they were fighting them here on our streets and in our countryside?  What a bunch of  flaming idiots..........  


by nuttinfancy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:48:53 AM EST


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