The Upside Of McCain

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OK, so maybe I spoke too soon about Romney rising in Florida. The 5 polls released today, all of which include Sunday in the polling range have McCain either up by a few points or tied with Romney (exception: this freaky Datamar poll that has Romney up by 13%.) We might call this McCain's Charlie Crist endorsement bounce (or it could be a "McCain's blatantly lying about Romney's stance on Iraq withdrawal" bounce.) Whatever the case, what's clear is that, as we've seen with other primaries this year, the race is volatile and still quite fluid, even one day out from voting.

As I've written, my stance has been that I would much prefer to run against Romney because, in my view, he'd be much easier for the Democratic nominee to draw distinctions from; it would be a breeze to pit Romney as the candidate of the Republican Party's regressive policies and the Democratic nominee as representing the party of mainstream values. But with McCain, like him or not, it's hard to deny that he actually shares some of our values.

I'm rethinking this theory somewhat in light of a fascinating panel discussion hosted by The Nation (featuring Naomi Klein and Bob Scheer) that I attended yesterday. I suspect I'll write more about the discussion, whose purpose was to explore the 2008 election in terms of what happens next for progressives in a post-Bush era, but I just wanted to offer an interesting point raised by Scheer during the talk.

Scheer's point essentially is that if McCain is the nominee, the very fact that he holds similar stances on issues such as global warming, torture and immigration to those held by the Democratic nominee will force our nominee to run to the left in order to draw distinctions. For example, on global warming, McCain is actually quite sane, acknowledging its existence and even placing the blame on human behavior (sadly, a rare thing for a Republican) but his solution is more nuclear power. In a fight against McCain, our nominee would be forced to take a stronger stance not only against nuclear power but also perhaps to go further than a cap and trade system, which McCain also favors, to get tougher on capping emissions.

This all presumes, of course, that our nominee will embrace the progressive moment in which we find ourselves and, unlike our two previous nominees, seek to shine a light on the differences between the parties rather than blur them. It will be our job to make sure our nominee does exactly that and, as odd as it sounds, a McCain nomination may very well aid us in that goal.



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I like this theory, also.

I really think that any of the Democratic candidates will beat McCain or Romney in the general election. In that case, it would be nice to deny the extreme right a voice during the campaign. McCain does not speak for the hard right, but Romney does.

When I heard that Bush surrogates support Romney, I started to dislike him even more.


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by Mark Wallace on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:13:46 PM EST

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Obama might have some difficulties with McCain about foreign experience(even though experience is greatly overated)(note Clinton has some other difficulties w/ McCain) but one way he would have a strong upside is having a referendum on Iraq and what to do in Iran.


by rtaycher1987 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:15:31 PM EST

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Here you have the MSM 10-second "wisdom" about the race. Hillary and Bill will "do anything to win" and McCain, the honest straight-shooter that he is, won't.

Never mind that McCain lies as easily as he breathes and that for all his "straight-talk express" he is so crooked he needs to screw his pants on in the morning.

THAT's why McCain is the worst possible candidate for Hillary to face. Because it wouldn't be a campaign so much as an adulatory coronation with all the media vying to spit on Hillary and anoint McCAin as our savior.

And millions of independents would totally buy the lies. They are going to be spouting all this B.S. about how "honest" McCain is and nothing will be allowed to get in the way of that narrative from now to November.

And without independents any Democrat will lose.
It will be only when McCain actually has 6 months in office that the love-in will suddenly reveal a man utterly unfit to be President.

It will be a second George Bush administration, and another 8 years of greedy looting by Republican cronies.


by Cugel on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:16:08 PM EST

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I think that this is precisely why so many conservatives are up in arms over the prospect of McCain as the nominee (Rush Limbaugh saying McCain would "destroy the Republican party"). On global warming, immigration, torture, campaign finance reform, the Repubs would cede their position as the center of gravity shifts to the left. I'm not thrilled about the idea of having Clinton or Obama having to take on McCain, but it might be hard for the Repubs to backtrack on these issues once they've given ground.


by animated on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:34:01 PM EST

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We may have to focus most of our energies on the Congressional elections if McCain is the nominee.

His image is just too strong and entrenched to dent it sufficiently.


by mikelow1885 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:35:11 PM EST

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I have to disagree. The instances you cite of McCain actually agreeing with us - global warming and torture - are NOT the issues that voters are overwhelming concerned about. Those would be the economy and the Iraq War. On both of those issues, McCain is very definitely far, far to the right of our candidates.

On just the Iraq War issue alone, it is going to be pretty easy for Hillary or Obama to hang him with his "100 year" War, or his assertion that there will be many more wars, or that we are winning. Americans overwhelmingly want out. That issue also segues into the economic issue, as most people believe that the money we are spending on Iraq is strangling the economy. McCain has admitted in easy-to-use sound bites that he doesn't know much about economics. I would love to see Hillary debating him on economics. She would absolutely cream him.

I really don't like this meme democrats are buying into that they should work behind the scenes to help Romney, as Kos did in the Michigan primary. I see where it could come back to bite us big time.


by CognitiveDissonance on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 05:25:40 PM EST

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McCain just may fracture the Republican party, but thinking his stances on global warming and immigration will force our candidate to run to the left is whistling past the graveyard. They will just become non-issues fought if anywhere down ticket.


by Judeling on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 05:37:24 PM EST

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I agree. POlitical activitsts should support their party and candidates and not worry that much about who the other side puts up.
Factors other than who the candidates are usually drive the outcome of elections anyway and the personalities of the candidate usually determine whether its close or a blowout.
by spirowasright on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 05:38:57 PM EST

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Ah, the oldest Roman of them all -- McCainus.


by dalloway on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 06:03:01 PM EST


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