Obama's whining strategy

There is an article out in the New York Times today with Jesse Jackson's reaction to Bill Clinton's quote from Saturday comparing him with Obama.

To his credit, he downplayed it:

"I don't read anything negative into Clinton's observation," Mr. Jackson said in a phone conversation late Sunday night from India, where he is taking part in a commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

But, Mr. Jackson said, "Bill has done so much for race relations and inclusion, I would tend not to read a negative scenario into his comments." He said his chief concern was that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton not "bloody themselves" so much that they can't unite against the Republicans in November.

But thats not the part that stood out to me. It was this:

In his conversation with Mr. Obama on Saturday, Mr. Jackson said, "He told me what Bill had said. And I said to Barack, as a tactical matter, resist any temptation to come down to that level.

Ahh...at last we have confirmation of something I've long suspected. Bill or Hillary (or one of their supporters) say something that can be taken in a racially negative way, and Barack turns around and gets on the phone with influential leaders and tells them what those bad people said about him.

What cracks me up is, as SOON as this quote by Bill got coverage (Saturday night), apparently Barack tracked down Jesse in friggin' India to let him know about this!

And this strategy might have worked on Teddy as well. I've been reading some reports that it was, in fact, Clinton's remark about Jackson that pushed him over the edge for Obama (also on Saturday night). Though to be fair, some people insist otherwise.

To go out on a limb and name names on who else Barack might have called in the past couple of weeks with his whining strategy is something I will not do. I will let you come to your own conclusions. However, there is evidence out there that highly suggests it, in my opinion.

But my last thought is this: There was a moment in the debate a week ago where a candidate made a sincere argument that all three candidates on the stage were history in the making. The three of them on that stage running for president together was the realization of MLK's dream, this candidate said. Watch closely for the reactions by the other candidates: one of them inexplicably turns his head away in a petulant, pissy manner at this hopeful, healing statement.

Now tell me again...who is dividing our party?



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Obama is a corrupt phoney (2.00 / 1)

His day in the sun is almost over.  By the end of February he'll be back in the Senate.  

He can run again someday down the road.  But I think he may choose not to.   I think he took a calculated game this time and it almost paid off.  He decided to run, while light on experience, but with a small resume and record that he could be defined with.

Gone next time will be the talk of hope and all that bs.  He will have a record to explain and he will have to deliver on substance.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:17:09 PM EST

Re: Obama is a corrupt phoney (2.00 / 1)

He's probably going to be the vp pick. I think it would be smart move. In one stroke the obama lovin media are neutralized along with the whole racist storyline. And she should treat him as partner. What a combo in November.


by ottovbvs on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:22:13 PM EST
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I'd kick him to the curb like last weeks trash (2.00 / 1)

Thats what I'd do.

Besides Clinton is smarter than that.

She can look back at Lieberman and Edwards and see two men that really weren't in love with the idea of being number two, and who showed it.  They did nothing to help their campaigns.  

Obama would be the same.

He wouldn't put his heart into it, he wouldn't play rough, he wouldn't stand up for Clinton.   Because in the back of his mind he'd just be saying screw it, if we lose I will run again in '12.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:27:27 PM EST
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Re: Obama is a corrupt phoney (2.00 / 2)

Wes Clark would be a better pick.  Assuming that whoever wins the Democratic nomination can pull the party back together.


by manny on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:30:10 PM EST
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Re: Obama is a corrupt phoney (none / 0)

Obama and ObamaBots are race baiting and assisting the media painting the Clintons as racists!
The media WILL come for Obama - but JRE supporters always knew it would be AFTER Iowa.
It may even be AFTER Obama wins the nomination.
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:33:30 PM EST
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Re: Obama is a corrupt phoney (2.00 / 1)

No VP nod.  Hillary is not coming within 100 feet of REZKO.  It's poison.  There is more to come.  


by WMCB on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:49:16 PM EST
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Obama won't be on Hillary's ticket - but in November Obama will still be in the Senate - and there will be an increase in young Dem registered voters.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:35:53 PM EST
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This is what busts me up. When Obama made the comment about Reagan being a transformative figure, a significant percentage of media members trumpeted it as the truth, regardless of how it played in Democratic primaries. Then when Bill Clinton mentions Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, implying the primary demographics tilt in that direction, I've heard many of the same pundits lash out at Clinton. So which way do they want it? LOL. Truth or dainty avoidance? I guess it depends on whether it makes the Clintons look bad.

I've got to believe this is somewhat like John Kerry's comment a couple of weeks before the '06 midterm. The media played the edited clip which included only the "stuck in Iraq" segment. When the preceding section was included it was obvious Kerry was referring to Bush's ignorance.

Bill Clinton had been on the hot seat for days. I severely doubt he tossed the Jesse Jackson comment out there without some type of relevant lead in. He's been called the sharpest politician of this era for a reason, so my handicapping is to provide the benefit of a doubt in his direction, not the media's. A transcript is not enough. We need the full tape, to evaluate the course and tone of the conversation.  


by Gary Kilbride on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:31:21 PM EST

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Let's see:

a) Obama told Jackson something that Clinton said about Jackson
b) Clinton's comment couldn't possibly be taken as being insulting
c) he did so in a private conversation, not trying to make a spectacle of it

Therefore Obama's strategy is to whine?

You're trying to make an issue out of nothing at all and use it as an excuse to attack a democrat. So who's trying to divide the party here?


by Nautilator on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:36:21 PM EST

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Please.  When did Hillary EVER go running to the party hierarchy over anything Obama has done?  

He reminds me of the bratty little snitches in school.  Once or twice is fine, but he does it constantly, and it has gotten old.


by WMCB on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 01:51:07 PM EST
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uh, Bill IS the party hierarchy.


by the mollusk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 03:01:14 PM EST
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No, he's not.  The DC establishment has always hated and resented the Clintons.  

Learn some history.


by WMCB on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:37:39 AM EST
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who do you consider the establishment if it isn't the only Democratic president elected since 1976 and the only two-term Democratic president since 1952?


by the mollusk on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:41:20 AM EST
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All along he's acted like a child, so why should this time be any different?  I had the same thought myself when I read it- crybaby runs to others asking what to do.


by reasonwarrior on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 02:07:09 PM EST

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It would be nice if there was some evidence that the 300 million pushover bosses who do the hiring around here actually punished candidates who acted childish.
Appealing to our inner spoiled 12-year-old hasn't hurt the GOP now, has it?
by spirowasright on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:24:47 PM EST
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I'm so sick and tired of Obama and ObamaBots stretching comments and crying RACISM!

They are damaging the Dem Party.
 


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:43:40 PM EST
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Jesse's statement was pure class, especially considering this isn't the first time Bill has used him as a bit of a foil on the campaign trail.

Jesse seems to be one of the few people who understands that there's no point in exacerbating differences within the party and making a big production out of every little non-issue.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 02:26:24 PM EST

Jesses got class. (2.00 / 1)

And I said to Barack, as a tactical matter, resist any temptation to come down to that level.

I agree. Obama should resist the urge to sink to the Clintons level. I know it must be hard when you're being hit by relentlessly dishonest and negative attacks, but JJ is still correct.


by Mystylplx on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 02:51:38 PM EST

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this was my reaction almost exactly.


by the mollusk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 03:01:53 PM EST
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Would somebody please explain this to the Obama supporters?
By the way, I wouldn't underestimate him, Not somebody with his level of support. Too much teflon, Rezko or no Rezko.
by spirowasright on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:20:01 PM EST

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ObamaBots should be concerned the media is promoting a Teflon candidate 24/7 - but they just ignore it.
The media is making mega bucks off Obama - as they do with Paris and Britney.

Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:38:37 PM EST
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THANK YOU FOR A WONDERFUL ARTICLE (none / 0)

and honestly, I am sick and tired of being called a racist for supporting Hillary.  Silly me, I care about experience and results instead of flowery rhetoric.  


Hillary/Obama 2008
by Sandy1938 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:47:38 PM EST

Woo! (none / 0)

Looks like I made it to the rec list with my very first diary here. Thanks everyone!


by Scan on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:48:41 PM EST

Bill Clinton WAS race-baiting (none / 0)

Whining?! You're kidding right?

The question was "What does it say that it takes two people to campaign against Obama?"

ANd Bill's answer was "Jesse Jackson won here too, you know."

Uh-huh. That answer has everything to do with the double team by the Clintons. Full-disclosure: I'm an Obama supporter.

But even so, how can you NOT see what Bill was trying to do there, because to not see it, you have to be wearing blinders.


by freaktown on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 05:44:21 PM EST


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