Has Obama Promised Edwards Attorney General?

Well, it's an interesting proposition and one I think both Obama and Clinton would be wise to offer if either of them wins the nomination. But this is from Bob Novak, so take with requisite grain of salt.

Illinois Democrats close to Sen. Barack Obama are quietly passing the word that John Edwards will be named attorney general in an Obama administration.

Installation at the Justice Department of multimillionaire trial lawyer Edwards would please not only the union leaders supporting him for president but organized labor in general. The unions relish the prospect of an unequivocal labor partisan as the nation's top legal officer.

Gee, he says that as though it's a bad thing.

If there has been a discussion along these lines, you have to assume it's in the context of Edwards's endorsing Obama if and when he ends his candidacy prior to the convention, which, to his credit, he insists he has no intention of doing.

Now obviously, the whole concept is sort of bittersweet for those who support Edwards, as you all clearly have not given up on his presidential run but I have to agree with Jonathan Stein at Mother Jones when he says:

...even if he doesn't get the nomination, more Edwards!



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But do all Edwards voters fall in line like the Prussian infantry?


by ottovbvs on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:13:49 PM EST

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No. He could only recommend. He does not own them.


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by indydem99 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:16:14 PM EST
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It would be meaningful to me, but not as some kind of unconfirmed Bob Novak rumor.

Obviously Edwards can always endorse Obama, but he's never going to be able to say "hey guys, I've been promised AG, so this endorsement really means something."  And if he were trying to get it out there in a nudge nudge, wink wink fashion, I don't know that Bob Novak would be the go-to guy.

As much as I like Edwards, his endorsement standing alone is pretty much meaningless to me.  I know the candidates well enough to have my own opinion.


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by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:17:51 PM EST
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Exactly. But this is true of both an endorsement of Obama or CLinton. The core issue that I have with the remaining candidates is their strategy of using triangulation. That won't go away with an endorsement. I am looking for them to show outward signs that they get why we fear that the party will lose its gains if we should return to being the party of triangulation.


by bruh21 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:23:07 PM EST
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Obama has done this because without the Edwards delegates, of which there will probably be around 200, there is no way Obama can win.

I am personally not sure I would be willing to vote for a candidate who didn't win the majority of primary voters though.

Is that not like stealing the nomination?


by kristoph on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:14:37 PM EST

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Ummmm?

You do realize that if ANY candidate gets 50% by convention time, Edwards is irrelevant, right?

I.e., if Edwards matters, it logically follows that Hillary Clinton was unable to win a majority of primary voters as well...


by zonk on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:37:53 PM EST
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So, Obama's leading in the delegate count, they've handed out 300 delegates out of 4000, and you've already decided there's "no way" he can win?  Why even have a primary?  Let's just ask Kristoph every four years what's certain to happen!

The interesting thing about Edwards is, if he stays in the race, he takes delegates away from Clinton and Obama, making it less likely for either of them to walk away with 50%.  And he can send his delegates to either at a brokered convention, thereby crowning the next President.  Whereas if he does drop out, his supporters will probably split among the other two candidates, which won't have a huge effect.  Given that, I'd be shocked if Edwards dropped out of the race.

And I'd love to see him as Attorney General.  No matter how much one may love Edwards, you have to admit he's a long shot to win it all at this point.  But the country desperately needs a strong AG, and he'd be the best and most high-profile since RFK.  It's a match made in heaven no matter who wins the White House.


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by schroeder on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:33:04 PM EST
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He really can not make his delegates vote for obama. He could only recommend. he does not own them.


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by indydem99 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:15:01 PM EST

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His delegates at the convention would do what he said, I think.  The voters wouldn't necessarily.  Obama is my second choice, anyway.


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by Sean Fitzpatrick on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:29:13 PM EST
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I'd love to see Edwards in the job of AG.  Among other things, given his childhood in the segregated South, I'm sure he'd see it as an important priority to set things right in the Voting Rights Division that has been so mistreated under Bush.


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by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:15:08 PM EST

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The US Chamber of Commerce and the business community in general would, as the young folks say, "flip its shit," if John Edwards were the A.G.O.U.S.

I generally like Obama, but I've seen nothing from him that suggests he has the kind of guts to stick with John Edwards through a Senate confirmation process.

However, if Obama (or Clinton) did nominate Edwards as AGOUS, and he were somehow confirmed, Edwards would be absolutely transformative. I would fully expect him to become the greatest Attorney General the US in American History.


by blueflorida on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:16:58 PM EST

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Former members of the world's greatest deliberative body always seem to get the kid-glove treatment.  I agree that the business community would lose their mind.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:18:51 PM EST
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Former Senators do, generally, receive a softer touch during the confirmation process, but Edwards was there as a full-timer for so little, and the heat likely to come down on Senators will be so great, that I think Edwards would have a real fight on his hands.


by blueflorida on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:22:59 PM EST
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Well, I hope Senator Feingold will vote for him, at least.


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by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:30:07 PM EST
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Yeah .. but shouldn't we have close to 60 senators by that time? ... and if he ends up as Obama's AG .. wouldn't that be a test of how Obama can practice what he preaches?


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:16:13 PM EST
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The Senate confirmed an attorney general who, as a state governor had been chased down by the courts for flat-out refusing to uphold the law (Ashcroft, who wouldn't enforce desegregation in Missouri), and a White House counsel who openly states that the President is above the law (Gonzo).  If those two assholes made it through, how much of a hard time could a Democratic-majority Senate give Edwards?


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by schroeder on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:35:48 PM EST
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Ultimately, it's easier to confirm someone with un-Constitutional views than it is to confirm someone whose views may run counter to the livelihood of a specific powerful economic interest.

The capacity of the business community to punish adversaries is quite vast. Edwards, as a former practicing plaintiff's attorney, would elicit a very special level of enmity from business. Ashcroft drew heat from pro-choicers and civil rights groups, but they don't have the capacity to punish that business does. Further, there's no progressive group elected Democrats are willing to sell-out against faster than trial lawyers (well, maybe gays & lesbians).  


by blueflorida on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 12:02:51 AM EST
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Sadly, those are all very good points.


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by schroeder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 09:50:44 AM EST
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He wasn't "transformative" in the US Senate. Unless you consider sponsoring the authorization to use military force in Iraq transformative.


by hwc on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:49:30 PM EST
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I said it before when it (none / 0)

looked like Hillary had a lock.

Yogi Berra said: It ain't over til its over

I think either Hillary or Obama would want Edwards as AG.


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by Moonwood on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:17:19 PM EST

With an Obama Pres... (none / 0)

Edwards gets either AG or Labor.  Count on it...


by Ramo on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:17:52 PM EST

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It actually sounds a little like a hail mary pass to me. If this starts to get traction what does Edwards go down to on Super T. He's already going to be around 5% in my judgement.


by ottovbvs on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:18:34 PM EST

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What is Novak's goal in divulging this information, even if were true? How does this information affect Hill?  


by lonnette33 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:22:59 PM EST
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I think he is trying to say that she is isolated. I say BS.


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by indydem99 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:39:00 PM EST
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It means you have the choice to vote for:

1)POTUS

2) AG/Labor Sec

LOL


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by indydem99 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:26:45 PM EST
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Re: Has Obama Promised Edwards Attorney General? (2.00 / 1)

I can just see that picture of George Washington on your tax dollars, crying a little tear.


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by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:35:25 PM EST

This comment (none / 0)

And the uprating of it are a perfect microcosm of what this once fine site has become.


by zonk on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:41:37 PM EST

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OK.

SO what's your solution.

Should I not vote?  Or will you inform me of whom I can vote?


by zonk on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:33:00 PM EST
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I hate shit like this (none / 0)

When diaries come out to push the "rumors" like this, they just feel like they are asking us to give up because the deal has been made. Move on over to O or C because your candidate has already made a deal.

I say BS until John Edwards says something himself.

Sorry for the rant but I hate rumors like this that try to lead Edwards supporters in another direction..


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by kevin22262 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:46:38 PM EST

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issue:  JFK & RFK

Talk amongst yourselves...


by mbcarl on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:52:14 PM EST

Uh (1.00 / 1)

Obama is neither?


by Shawn on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:56:25 PM EST
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Supposedly when JFK nominated his younger brother to be Attorney General he said, "The kid's got to start somewhere."


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 04:59:07 PM EST
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that's pretty funny... (none / 0)

but wasn't it Joe Kennedy who ordered Jack to pick Bobby?


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by mboehm on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:07:22 PM EST
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I'm not sure.  I don't think that would be inconsistent with the story, though.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 10:27:40 PM EST
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You just blew my mind! (none / 0)

Obama and Edwards are brothers?!?


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by schroeder on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:42:14 PM EST
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I gather then that you support our current system of financing camapigns through PACs and corporate interests to public financing.  That's proven to be sooooo full of equanimity, justice, and fair-handedness.  Some opinions are harder to respect than others, it must be said.

John Edwards does not own me, either.  That said, I will give a great deal of weight to his endorsement.   Presumably, indeed, I would sincerely HOPE his support would come at a price, that price being the ability to see too it that his issues are addressed by the next Democratic administration.   For me, this is a lot more about that 80-page booklet than the candidate himself.  


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by CLLGADEM on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:01:34 PM EST

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   Well said concerning campaign financing; I'll take public funding anyday over the corporate influenced current system.
   As for Edwards, after considering a change to Obama I'm going to vote for Edwards on Super Tuesday. Let any position come to him if it will; I'm concerned that a liberal candidate gets to the convention to meet with other Dems with as much support as possible.
    Make the DLC seek the support of liberals.
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by bmelz on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:50:25 PM EST
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Hillary/Obama with Edwards as AG -- throw in Bill and you have 4 high powered campaigners blanketing across the country.  If they could get Gore in the mix (by campaigning, i HIGHLY doubt he will get back in government), you can blitz the country with the 5 strongest Dems in the party.  The power behind that will lead to a landslide victory


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by sepulvedaj3 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:10:56 PM EST

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Haha, it's like a Beatles reunion, except this time John is the one with the good hair.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:23:32 PM EST
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yes exactly haha -- and what more "democratic unity" could there possibly be?


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by sepulvedaj3 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:27:38 PM EST
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I've long felt that one of the candidates should promise Gore the post of Secretary of the Interior.  It's a pure-policy position (i.e. without the patina of electoral sleaze Gore hates) that would enable Gore to spearhead exactly the sorts of reforms he believes are critical, and would seriously galvanize young voters.


by Alvin K on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:48:54 PM EST
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h/o + E (none / 0)

Hillary/Obama with Edwards as AG -- throw in Bill and you have 4 high powered campaigners blanketing across the country.  If they could get Gore in the mix (by campaigning, i HIGHLY doubt he will get back in government), you can blitz the country with the 5 strongest Dems in the party.  The power behind that will lead to a landslide victory


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by sepulvedaj3 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:11:07 PM EST

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sorry for the double post


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by sepulvedaj3 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:27:11 PM EST
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Does Edwards even want to be AG?
I figured Secretary of Labor, or trade would be more his thing.
It is hard to imagine that Edwards, who currently holds no office, won't be a player in any Democrat's administration in some capacity, if a Democrat wins in November.
I really wish Edwards would drop out now and support either Obama or Clinton rather than after February 5th, which is what he appears to be intent on doing.
The sooner we have a clear front runner, the better, and if Edwards endorsed someone now, that someone would be the clear front runner. If Edwards doesn't endorse someone before February 5th, no one is going to care what he thinks after February 5th.
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by fetboy on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:19:50 PM EST

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I think it's time to start adding the Obama and Edwards delegates into one column. Sorry Hillary, but Edwards is giving his delegates to the Obama man.


by Djneedle83 on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:29:41 PM EST

Is This For Edwards Benefit Or Obamas? (2.00 / 0)

After Jonathan Stein at Mother Jones says "more Edwards" he finishes the paragraph by saying:

Of course, the Edwards folks probably don't want to hear that. They want to hear "Edwards for prez!" And that's why the Obama people are floating this rumor, assuming it's true: it gets the progressive media to laud Edwards' potential as an attorney general while further marginalizing his chances for the presidency.

Of course, there are people who just might not want Edwards to use their vote as a bargining chip. I may decide that I personally want to choose between Clinton or Obama myself rather than have Edwards make my choice for me.  


by MOBlue on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 05:39:14 PM EST

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I doubt Edwards even wants it; like the media likes to say, he's a professional presidential candidate.  He gave in once and got burned.  I doubt he'll do that twice.


by ejintx on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 06:13:53 PM EST

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Edwards would make a Great Attorney general. It better suits his strengths and style. He'll be a pit bull for the people and he and Obama could do the good cop, bad cop routine on special interests out to scuttle Obama's policy initiatives.

Edwards will terrify the corporate sleaze balls and bad actors. While Obama can reward and work with the companies and investors helping to innovate and build the nations future.

After SC I decided to switch my vote from Edwards to Obama. I'm happy to see Obama incorporating a lot of Edwards narrative in his speeches and I'd be even happier to see Edwards as AG.


by hankg on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 06:27:08 PM EST

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Umm hankg, let me get this straight you would rather vote for someone who is following (by co-opting) the message of the leader, (and has done so along with Clinton this entire campaign).But not vote for the leader? and you will do so after only 4 states have voted. Color me confused??? If your support of a true leader is so weak, it's probably better you go with a follower.
To be a leader takes not only vision and courage, but the tenacity to navigate through the tough times. Edwards has a history of doing that. Obama, not so much.He is untested. But you can HOPE he can...Good luck with your decision.
by asher on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 02:39:50 AM EST
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Any story based on a Robert Novack column strikes me as not really worth giving serious thought to. I think this is a result of a superficial view of politics in which its all horse-trading among individuals, rather than at some level a competition of ideas and movements. In any event, if Obama is actually giving thought to his AG will be, he's really not doing what he needs to be doing to beat Clinton.


by desmoulins on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 06:37:29 PM EST

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My guess is this story is bunk too.  I sure hope so.  What on earth qualifies John Edwards to be AG?  His legal career consists of medical malpractice suits which is the most useless, unproductive, and shysterific branch of the law there is.  If he were nominated I'd hope to see him rejected; he is qualified to be AG about as much as Harriet Meyers was to be on the SCOUS.


by zachmartin on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 09:08:41 PM EST

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His legal career consists of medical malpractice suits which is the most useless, unproductive, and shysterific branch of the law there is

So, I take you're either a physician or an health insurance agent. Try talking to an actual patient-victim some time. Or reading a book. Regardless, at the core of the plaintiff's attorney profession is a passion for consumer rights advocacy. That would be a very good thing to have in the AG's office right now (on a number of different legal fronts).


by blueflorida on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 12:19:07 AM EST
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My support stays with Edwards to the convention.


by NMRon on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:38:35 PM EST

Tinfoil! (none / 0)

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by schroeder on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 11:41:27 PM EST


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