FACT CHECK: Obama, His Contributor Rezko, the Slum Landlord Business

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton engaged in a heated exchange over Obama's work for a certain Rezko during tonight's CNN-Congressional Black Caucus debate.  An assessment of their statements reveals that Barack Obama misrepresented the work he performed for Rezko, who Hillary Clinton correctly characterized as a "slum landlord" who is also one of Barack Obama's "contributors."  Clinton, however, neglected to mention that Rezko is presently under federal indictment for fraudulent schemes involving government officials and government funds.  Because this fact check is limited to statements uttered during the debate, it will not explore Rezko's involvement in the questionable transaction whereby Obama purchased his Chicago mansion.

Statement:  Hillary Clinton referred to Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a man under federal indictment, as Obama's contributor.

Fact:  Rezko is indeed one of Obama's major contributors.  I quote the Chicago Sun-Times:

During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman Tony Rezko and his associates than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found.

Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle. Obama also has taken in an unknown amount of money from people who attended fund-raising events hosted by Rezko since the mid-1990s....

Sources close to both Rezko and Obama, however, said Rezko raised money often for Obama....

The cocktail party Rezko hosted in 2003 came at a critical time for Obama. He and Rezko timed it to help Obama show he had enough money to compete in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate against millionaire Blair Hull and state Comptroller Dan Hynes.

"This was discussed a lot. They wanted to have a good showing," said a source familiar with the fund-raiser, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Tony was one of the biggest fund-raisers."

At the time of the party, the state was in the process of foreclosing on a low-income apartment building Rezko's company rehabbed in Obama's state Senate district -- a rehab project on which Obama's law firm worked. Rezko had also abandoned many other low-income apartments, leaving numerous vacant units in need of major repairs....

Between 75 and 80 people attended Rezko's cocktail party, according to Burton, but he said the campaign has no list of the guests.

More than half a dozen people who were there said between 100 and 150 guests were treated to an open bar and food served by Jewell Events Catering, run by renowned Chicago caterer George Jewell. Valets parked cars for the guests, who each were asked to donate at least $1,000.

Rezko picked up the tab. The exact cost of the party has never been disclosed to the Federal Election Commission, which allows hosts to pay up to $2,000 for fund-raisers held in their homes and not report the expense. If a party costs more than $2,000, the candidate must tell the FEC about it.

Burton said, based on a conversation a former Obama staff member had with Rezko, that the party didn't cost more than $2,000.

Three days after the cocktail party, Obama got donations from several Rezko associates....

The Chicago Sun-Times also provides a list of all donations Obama received through Rezko's bundling network.  

According to the Chicago Tribune, Obama has returned only $80,350 of the $168,308 he received from Rezko and those tied to Rezko's bundling network.

Also of note is the "unmentioned politician" in a 78 page document federal prosecutors filed in their case against Rezko.  The "unnamed politician" is Barack Obama, who received $10,000 from $250,000 of sham finder's fees Rezko's network filched from a firm that handled the Illinois state teacher's pension fund.  I quote the Chicago Sun-Times:

Obama is not named in the Dec. 21 court document. But a source familiar with the case confirmed that Obama is the unnamed "political candidate" referred to in a section of the document that accuses Rezko of orchestrating a scheme in which a firm hired to handle state teacher pension investments first had to pay $250,000 in "sham" finder's fees. From that money, $10,000 was donated to Obama's successful run for the Senate in the name of a Rezko business associate, according to the court filing and the source.

Rezko, who was part of Obama's senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing "at least one other individual" to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual -- in possible violation of federal election law....

The $10,000 contribution to Obama was given in Aramanda's name on March 5, 2004, records show. While Obama's camp has said the senator did not know Aramanda, Obama's office hired Aramanda's son as an intern in 2005, at Rezko's urging.

So intimate was Obama with Rezko's bundling network, he found his way into a document federal prosecutors filed against the indicted slumlord.

Statement:  Hillary Clinton referred to Obama's major contributor Antoin "Tony" Rezko as a man who owned and operated a "slum landlord business."

Fact: Antoin "Tony" Rezko is indeed a slumlord who ran multiple businesses.  I quote the Chicago Sun-Times:

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

*                       Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

*                       Six buildings are currently boarded up.

*                       Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

*                       Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

*                       At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

Statement: Obama claims he only performed five hours of work for a church engaged in one real estate deal with Rezko while working as an attorney at Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, which I henceforth refer to as the Davis law firm in Chicago.

Fact:  Obama completed many tasks on behalf of his slum landlord patron.  According to the incomplete answer Obama's Senate Presidential campaign staff submitted to the Chicago Sun-Times, Obama engaged in several projects involving an unnamed nonprofit organization affiliated with one of Rezko's tenements, the Central Woodlawn project.  I quote the Chicago Sun-Times:

Sun-Times question: Please explain what legal work the senator performed on each of those Rezmar projects. I have a copy of a legal bill showing Sen. Obama worked on the Central Woodlawn project. Please include the number of hours he spent on each Rezmar deal, the dates he worked on those deals, and to whom he reported at the firm, whether that was Allison Davis and/or William Micelli.

Obama campaign answer: Senator Obama worked on several projects in which the firm's principal client was a not-for-profit corporation. The projects entailed negotiations between the firm's primary not-for-profit client and the Rezmar-related entity that served as co-general partner or co-venturer of the not-for-profit.
Once the negotiations between the not-for-profit and Rezmar-related entity were completed, the firm represented the combined entity, usually an Illinois limited partnership or Illinois limited-liability company.

The Senator, relatively inexperienced in this kind of work, was assigned to tasks appropriate for a junior lawyer. These tasks would have included reviewing documents, collecting corporate organizational documents, and drafting corporate resolutions. The Senator reported primarily to former partner Allison Davis and occasionally to William Miceli.

Notice Obama's Senate office did not mention the number of hours Obama worked on projects related to Rezko's business, Rezmar, and notice they did not provide specific dates for all legal work undertaken.  But pay particular attention to the claim that Obama was "relatively inexperienced in this kind of work."  How does Obama's Senate office reconcile that claim with the follow biographical sketch Obama submitted to the Chicago Sun-Times in 1998?

But Obama did legal work on real estate deals while at Davis' firm, according to biographical information he submitted to the Sun-Times in 1998. Obama specialized "in civil rights litigation, real estate financing, acquisition, construction and/or redevelopment of low-and moderate income housing,'' according to his "biographical sketch."

And how does Obama square his claim during the debate that he only engaged in one transaction involving Rezko's company Rezmar with the incomplete answer his Presidential campaign staff submitted to the Chicago Sun-Times?  His Presidential campaign staff cites multiple projects.  They also used the plural in the following sentence they sent to the Chicago Sun-Times in an electronic message:

Senator Obama did not directly represent Mr. Rezko or his firms. He did represent on a very limited basis ventures in which Mr. Rezko's entities participated along with others,'' according to the e-mail from Obama's staff.

But Obama's work for Rezko does not end with his job at the Davis law firm in Chicago; it also includes advocacy he performed on Rezko's behalf in his state Senate office.  Let us return the Chicago Sun-Times's questionnaire:

Q: At the time of those deals, Tony Rezko was a client of the senator's firm, a campaign donor to the senator, a personal friend, and a business partner with the senator's boss, Allison Davis. But Mr. Rezko was also a landlord to many constituents living in the state Senate district that Senator Obama represented at the time. And many of those Rezmar properties had fallen into disrepair, while Rezmar began to fail financially. Did the senator ever talk to Tony Rezko about the deteriorating status of his housing projects?

A: To reiterate: the firm did represent entities in which Tony Rezko had an interest but never Tony Rezko, personally. Senator Obama does not remember having conversations with Tony Rezko about properties that he owned or any specific issues related to those properties.

Q: In this situation, how did the senator decide whose interests took precedence: Mr. Rezko, Mr. Davis, the senator's constituents?

A: The Senator, then a junior lawyer, did not have the authority, the assignment or the opportunity to make such decisions. But it is important to keep in mind that the whole enterprise of affordable housing is geared toward improving housing stock for those unable to afford market-priced housing. The goals of the firm's clients were consistent with the needs of communities benefiting from affordable housing initiatives.

But the Illinois state Senator must have had conversations with Rezko and others about one Rezmar real estate enterprise, New Kenwood LLC, a project for which he advocated twice on his state Senate office's letterhead.  According to the Chicago Sun-Times, Obama's letters helped Rezko secure $855,000 of taxpayer money for the development fees of New Kenwood LLC, a project in which Rezko and Obama's former boss Allison Davis, who resigned from the Davis law firm in 1997, were partners .  I reproduce the two letters state Senator Obama wrote on behalf of his former boss and Rezko on 28 OCT 1998, the same year in which the part-time legislator was engaged in legal work for a Rezko related enterprise at the Davis law firm.  The letter addressed to Sondra Ford also begins with the greeting "Dear Commissioner Stasch," an administrative error one occasionally finds on form letters sent to multiple parties.




Glaring is the potential conflict of interest between Obama's state Senate office and his office at the Davis law firm.  Should a state Senator perform political favors for his boss and for one of his boss's business partners and clients?  Even more glaring is Obama's willingness to advocate on behalf of a Rezko enterprise at the very same time when Rezko's other slum housing enterprises in his Senate district were the subject of complaints for the unsafe and unhealthy conditions they afforded inhabitants.  

Also egregious is an additional favor Obama performed on Rezko's behalf.  You recall the $10,000 donation from Rezko's friend and business partner Aramanda that landed Obama in the 78 page document federal prosecutors filed against Antoin "Tony" Rezko.  At the behest of Rezko, Obama's Senate office hired Aramanda's son as an intern.  I quote the Chicago Sun-Times:

In addition to a land deal, Sen. Barack Obama's ties to indicted dealmaker Antoin "Tony" Rezko include an internship the senator provided the son of a contributor at the request of Rezko, an Obama spokesman confirmed Saturday.
John Aramanda served as an intern for Obama for about a month in 2005, said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. His father is Joseph Aramanda, a Rezko business associate who was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal corruption case against Rezko. Aramanda has contributed $11,500 to Obama since 2000, Gibbs said.

"Mr. Rezko did provide a recommendation for John Aramanda," Gibbs said. "I think that it's fairly obvious that a few-week internship is not anything of benefit to Mr. Rezko or any of his businesses."

I consider the internship another favor Obama performed on behalf of Rezko and Rezko's slum landlord business.

Summary:Obama completed more than just five hours of legal work for Antoin "Tony" Rezko, his main contributor who also ran slum landord operations both inside and outside of Obama's Illinois state Senate district. And according to answers Obama's Presidential campaign submitted in response to a question posed by the Chicago Sun-Times, this legal work involved multiple entities tied to Rezko's tenement empire, not the one "church" Obama disingenuously cited during the debate.

That legal work occurred after Obama received $1,000 from Rezko during the winter of 1997, when residents of one of Rezko's slums located within Obama's state Senate district shivered without heat for five weeks during a cold Chicago winter. Obama also wrote letters on Rezko's behalf on his state Senate stationary after he received that donation. Although this is just a scratch on the surface of Obama's long and checkered history with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, it provides some insight into the 2005 real estate transaction involving Obama, Rezko and a mansion in the Kenwood neighborhood of Chicago.



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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton made a $300,000 loan to convicted felon David Hale. They made a mistake; so did Obama with this Rezko scandal.

What does this prove? That politicians are human, and are thus prone to making mistakes?

Are you trying to help the Republicans make their case against Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama?

Please stop helping the Republicans win in November.


Proud Hillary Clinton supporter. HRC: right on the issues, right for America.
by Politico80 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:15:13 AM EST

Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (2.00 / 0)

It proves nothing, as you say, but it does speak to the fact that Obama marginalized this matter.


by kristoph on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:00:14 AM EST
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Hey pot meet kettle. I have two words (none / 0)

WHITE WATER... Hey why dont we bring back Monica and Linda Tripp too. Stop with these stupid diaries. Nobody cares accept you....  


John McCain: Drill, Drill, Surge!!!!!
by TennesseeGurl on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:49:46 PM EST
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Re: Hey pot meet kettle. I have two words (2.00 / 1)

The problem is that Obama mischaracterized the situation, and that's not good.  In the NH debate, he straight out lied when he said that one of his co-chairs was not a lobbyist.  And in this debate, he was less than forthcoming about Rezko.

I think Obama made a dumb mistake.  We all, do, we're human.  But  trying to sweep it under the rug just makes people want to see what under there.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:54:20 PM EST
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actually... (none / 0)

this is about a diary full of errors and rife with innuendo.  the diarist continues to make false claims, which are easily disproved...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 04:07:58 AM EST
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Re: actually... (none / 0)

What are the errors in the diary?
Obama DID initially lie about his 15 year relationship with Rezko - or did he just "forget" about it?

The fact that the public knows more about Edwards haircuts than Obama's Rezko reflects the 24/7 pass the corporate media has given Obama.

Obama OWES the corporate owned media now.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 08:47:23 AM EST
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the diarist contends that obama helped rezko... (none / 0)

for projects outside his district (which happens to be both true and common), but the one's she cites as repugnant are inside his district.  she sees conflicts of interest where none really exist (this would be different if obama was the only person who provided rezmar letters of support; not all the black elected officials who did so had received rezko-related contributions).  and i've been mocking her for her posting of two articles that contradict each other.

we disagree about obama and the media.  the highly respected argues that the media has been paying attention to all this:

for the national types to claim that Obama's past is mostly unknown is just a total crock. All they have to do is comb through the Tribune and CS-T's archives, or try the Google. A lot of very hard work has already been done, and is still being done today. Too many reporters based in DC, or NY, or LA think that all there is to know is in their own publications. Not so.

to me (since i've lived in both places), i see the chicago media treating illinois politicians the same way the new york media treats their sports stars; that is, very sceptically.  obama is vetted.  that's why we know all this.  if obama beats hillary, he will be the giant killer, not the victim-in-waiting...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:10:11 AM EST
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Re: the diarist contends that obama (none / 0)

Well sure - Obama-Rezko has been in Chicago papers - but scant elsewhere.
But Edwards supporters said almost a year ago, Obama-Rezko wouldn't get much attention until AFTER Iowa.
And that's what happened.

Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:28:16 AM EST
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then you were right... (2.00 / 1)


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:42:00 AM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

Apparently we have witnessed a suppression of parts of the FackCheck.Org piece here in which Hillary was condemned for lying about Obama.

Thanks for the sleight of hand, author.


Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.
by shergald on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:59:58 PM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (2.00 / 0)

You missed the whole point of this diary.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:52:42 AM EST
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i think we all understood the point of the diary.. (2.00 / 1)

to smear obama with swiftboat tactics.

and to uphold the double standard to benefit hillary...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:58:58 AM EST
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Re: argue with the diary if you can (none / 0)

Who is this Andy guy?

http://www.pr-inside.com/crime-fighting- u-s-senate-candidate-andy-r395320.htm


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:22:26 PM EST
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Re: argue with the diary if you can (none / 0)

He is a candidate for Senate in Illinois who has held press conferences on this matter.  Because he is a Republican, I do not cite his press releases.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:28:02 PM EST
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No, that's not it (none / 0)

The point is that Obama's description to the nation of his connections with Rezko were commically incomplete and evasive and won't stand up to 2 minutes of scrutiny.  The debate answer was yet another rookie mistake, like describing Reagan in glowing terms while trying to win a national Democratic primary.


by Trickster on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:56:22 PM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (2.00 / 0)

Hale tried to throw Bill Clinton under the bus in return for leniency in his own corruption prosecutions. He got money and advice from conservative clinton-haters. He lied, and it cost the taxpayers millions. Get your facts straight. Mud-slinging is no defense in the face of the fact that Obama took money from and did favors for a shady slumlord. He isn't the Messiah, he isn't MLK or JFK and you can bet the Republicans will dredge all this up if he gets the nomination.


by awomanforachange on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:37:54 AM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (2.00 / 1)

You got that right. You think the Repubs, right now, as we speak, using paid, full-time operatives, aren't going through every bit of each candidate's history?

Much better that this come out now rather than during the general election. Because it will come out.


by Bob Miller on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:49:01 AM EST
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absolutely... (none / 0)

i've already said that this is barack's weak point.  but i want real facts, not slander (hi, dpAndrew!).  there is absolutely no need to give republicans crap to sling here...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:27:13 AM EST
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already did... (none / 0)

the diarist has asserted that 80 is one-third of 168.  now we know that seymour is bad at math, but most normal people can see that this is untrue.  start from there, and it doesn't get any more truthful.

but it's a great smear piece on democrats, isn't it?  swiftboaters would be so proud!


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:17:44 PM EST
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Re: already did... (none / 0)

you have not refuted anything i claim and cite.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:19:09 PM EST
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i haven't??? (none / 0)

please tell us again how 80 is one-third of 163.

i need not refute that obama wrote these letters, as did most if not all the elected black officials in the city.

you can keep declaring that, well, 80 is one-third of 163, but intelligent people will see that you are wrong, and deliberately so...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:52:16 PM EST
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Re: already did... (none / 0)

I want to be very clear about how dishonest this point is, since this commentor appears to be able to say little else except "80 is not one-third of 168, thus all your claims have no credibility."

The diary cites a Sun-Times article from last June which makes its point very clearly:

During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman Tony Rezko and his associates than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found.

Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle. Obama also has taken in an unknown amount of money from people who attended fund-raising events hosted by Rezko since the mid-1990s.

But seven months ago, Obama told the Sun-Times his "best estimate" was that Rezko raised "between $50,000 and $60,000" during Obama's political career.

So in other words, the Sun-Times nailed Obama on a false claim.  He said the number was between $50,000 and $60,000, but in fact, it was no less than $168,308.  And is that latter number "nearly three times" the $50-60,000 figure?  Why yes, yes it is.

So then, what's with the 80/168 argument?  Well, it turns out that just within the last week, Obama has returned an additional $40,350 in Rezko-linked donations, on top of the $44,000 he had previously returned.  Of course, this means he has still returned far, far less than the amount which the Sun-Times concluded he received.

And what does "bored now" conclude from this?  His chain of logic proceeds thus:

(1) Obama has now returned over $80,000 in Rezko-linked donations;
(2) Thus, Obama has now publicly acknowledged over $80,000 in Rezko-linked donations, as of two days ago;
(3) Therefore, this retroactively invalidates the Sun-Times' claim from seven months ago that Obama had only acknowledged one-third of the $168,000 figure, and makes everything else this diarist has said false as well!

This "argument" is delivered with such measured lines as "most people would say that 80 is almost half of 168.  but not you!  your immense hatred of barack is too great."

I normally don't bother to debunk comments at such length, but this 80/168 argument is so breathtakingly dishonest and repeated so many times throughout this thread, I just had to spell it out.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 10:12:36 PM EST
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bullshit... (none / 0)

i used the error that this diary suggests (80 is one-third of 168) as demonstrative of the fact that it is rife with error.

the diarist continues to make the FALSE CLAIM that 4800 S Cottage Grove (the address in the letter above) is FOUR BLOCKS OUTSIDE obama's old senate district -- something that is easily disproved for anyone here.  she lies about this intentionally, knowing full well that her claim is false.

barack obama's state senate district was 13.

48th and cottage grove is in the 13th illinois senate district.  bare with me, because pointing out something the diarist already knows (and lies about) is not as easy as pointing out the mathematic error here.

chicago provides a voter lookup for addresses in the city.  i used a real address to discover the validity of my claim (that the letter was written in support of obama's il. senate constituents:

plug in the following street address: 4828 in the HOUSE NO. column, south in the STREET DIRECTION column and cottage grove in the STREET NAME column.  click "lookup" (or hit return).

you will get this result:

Ward:       4
Precinct:     50

etc.  click on "Democratic Party Ballot" in the right hand column.

there is no state senate race on the ballot, but you can find a rather heated state representative race (26th district) at the top of the second column of the sample ballot [PDF].  the current representative of that district is elga jefferies, who's "associated senator" (last paragraph) is Kwame Raoul, of the 13th District.

the diarist continues to lie about the fact that this address is clearly, unambiguously in barack's old illinois senate district, continuously claiming that it is four block outside that district.  moreover, she falsely claims that this fact is stated in the articles she cites -- which is clearly untrue.

now you may be a stickler for these facts, but most people here aren't.  the diarist is clearly lying, something obvious to me, but perhaps not so obvious to you.  it's quite easy to pick it apart (which i've done)...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 04:26:35 AM EST
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Re: bullshit... (none / 0)

You won't even own up to the dishonest argument you've posted about a dozen times in this thread?

You have zero credibility with me.  I'm not even going to fact-check what you just posted because I simply assume that you're lying about something.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 10:00:28 AM EST
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i never expected you to verify it... (none / 0)

it's not like you're an honest broker here.  i see nothing dishonest about using a simple error to note that this diary was rife with errors.  you're reaction is exactly why...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 10:17:12 AM EST
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IMHO (none / 0)

Obama is playing the "race" and "victim" cards quite successfully.
IMHO - MLK, Jr. would be very disappointed.

MLK, Jr. never advocated Kumbaya with the KKK - and never pandered with "unity" crap. That would have been easy.
He sought economic justice for the voiceless and all those forced to "go along to get along" in our economy built on slave labor.

And that economy is STILL in force today. Our tax laws reward wealth - not work. And the Washington lobbyists who have funded Obama's political career and the careers of Congressional Dems endorsing him -  perpetuate economic injustice!

The corporate owned media and press - DC establishment and Congressional Dems - endorse Obama's old political trick of "bringing us all together" - rather than addressing the VAST economic injustice that prevails today.

Obama can't bring Senate Democrats together - much less the country. But that same "unity" rhetoric worked well for Lieberman too.

Only John Edwards has had the courage to continue MLK, Jr's message of ECONOMIC INJUSTICE - and the main reason he's been dissed and dismissed.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:17:50 AM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

Republicans can just as easily dig this up. You Hillary and Obama fans act like these are all top secret things only DEmocrats know how to drudge up. It also does not make it right to point out that the Clintons have had questionable ties at times.


by Pravin on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:37:15 PM EST
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Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

"Most egregious of all" is hiring the dude's friend's kid as an intern?  Isn't that a little penny-ante compared to the other stuff?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:15:28 AM EST

Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

Yeah, this is right up Karl Rove's alley.


Proud Hillary Clinton supporter. HRC: right on the issues, right for America.
by Politico80 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:18:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

I edited the diary.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:53:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Major Contributor Rezk (none / 0)

I appreciate your unwavering dedication to truth and accuracy.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:54:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Oy (none / 0)

Yeah, I'm not sure that HRC attacking another for the ethics or practices of a law firm or clients of a law firm is an area of inquiry of which I'm particularly comfortable, unless one is entirely comfortable with irony.


by ChrisR on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:22:36 AM EST

Re: Oy (none / 0)

You're missing the point.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:53:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

apparently not... (2.00 / 1)

obviously, the point is to drag obama into the mud, where hillary already plays.  by making obama and hillary equivalent, hillaryland hopes to sand the spark off of barack.  if barack is talking about something other than his inspiration-driven vision for america, he's just like hillary.  and the clintons believe they can win if the fight is in the mud instead of in the clouds.

i think we all understand the point.  hillary's a weak candidate, and the only way she can win is by avoiding the issues, talking about anything other than their vision for america, by smearing her opponents.

because, you know, voters will never get tired of that...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:03:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Point? Swiftboat Obama (none / 0)

We know how the clinton operatives work...throw crap at the wall and hope it sticks.
I guess it is time for Obama supporters to start looking at Hillary's brothers... and cash payments to them in exchange for pardons..such pillars of the community ..the clintons and rodhams....NOT!!!

There is so much scandal in the Clintons realm, where to start?

Hillaryis44 has mobilized the lying brigade and they are out in force.
How transparent they are. SAD.


by hawkjt on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 10:08:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

if this was about one of Obamas brothers (none / 0)

id see your point, but it's not.

its about work obama did as a state senator in getting state funds for projects for Rezko, that obama's own law firm - at the same time - were working on!!

plus that buying the lot scheme that saved the Obamas 950 grand on their new house.

this is not old news,  rezko will be on trial for fraud and political bribery in one months time.  
get used to this story, its gonna be with us to the end.


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 12:33:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

so? (none / 0)

where's the conflict of interest?  lots of innuendo, but where's the facts?

there is absolutely no indication that rezko save the obama's any money on their house, especially since they made an offer before rezko did (by almost a week).  and the obama's saved exactly 15% on their house over the asking price.  any HONEST person would understand that not everyone pays the asking price, let alone the extra money that you suggest he had to pay.  i understand that you are bad at math, but get a clue...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:21:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You may have forgotten (none / 0)

But Hillary and her law practice were absolutely cleared in the Whitewater matter, not only by the Resolution Trust Corp. but by Ken Starr.

I am unaware of any other charges of ethical impropriety or illegality in regard to her business dealings.  Can you be specific as to what you are referring to?


by Trickster on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 02:58:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You may have forgotten (none / 0)

I thought it was Robert Ray who published the Whitewater report.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:23:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You may have forgotten (none / 0)

True. And Obama isn't indicted or under investigation for anything associated with Rezko. And he never will be.
Case closed, why even bring this up?
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:21:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That's not my point (none / 0)

My point is to get away from the assumption of guilt when the name "Clinton" is uttered in favor of factual analysis.

I'm not the one who brought Rezko up.  However, I'm less confident than you about the "never will be" part.  What I do know about the land deal doesn't smell too good; in fact, even after undergoing basically 15 years of investigation, nothing comparable in Hillary Clinton's past has been unearthed.


by Trickster on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:40:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

feel free to provide a cite that says she was... (none / 0)

cleared.  i missed that...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:22:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You haven't been looking too close then (none / 0)

Try the Wikipedia entry on Whitewater.

The Clintons were eventually cleared of all wrongdoing in two reports prepared by the San Francisco law firm of Pillsbury Madison and Sutro for the Resolution Trust Corporation, which was overseeing the liquidation of Madison Guaranty.

* * *

Kenneth Starr's successor as Independent Counsel, Robert Ray, released a report in September 2000 that stated "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct." . . . Ray's report effectively ended the Whitewater investigation, with a total cost to American taxpayers of nearly $60 million.

I hate to say this out loud, but if some prosecutor spent $60 large investigating my past I'd be cooling my heels in the slammer this time next year.  


by Trickster on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:49:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

the starr report is quite equivocal... (none / 0)

i certainly don't read that to say that she was "exonerated of all charges" (bill's words).  but if you have the cite that does say that, feel free to post it...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:57:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"cleared of all wrongdoing" (none / 0)

vs "exonerated of all charges."

Hmmm. . . .  I'm not really seeing the big distinction.


by Trickster on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 11:50:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

You need to fact check your own fact checking.
According to the Chicago Sun-times Link you provided:

""This wasn't done as a favor for anyone," Burton said in a written statement. "It was done in the interests of the people in the community who have benefited from the project.

"I don't know that anyone specifically asked him to write this letter nine years ago," the statement said. "There was a consensus in the community about the positive impact the project would make and Obama supported it because it was going to help people in his district. . . . They had a wellness clinic and adult day-care services, as well as a series of social services for residents. It's a successful project. It's meant a lot to the community, and he's proud to have supported it.''

The development, called the Cottage View Terrace apartments, opened five years ago at 4801 S. Cottage Grove, providing 97 apartments for low-income senior citizens.

Asked about the Obama letters, Rezko's attorney, Joseph Duffy, said Tuesday, "Mr. Rezko never spoke with, nor sought a letter from, Senator Obama in connection with that project.""

In other words the Cottage View Terrace was good (and is still good) for the community. Which means the letters Obama wrote giving his support to get the project funded was not a conflict of interest, but rather an effort on his part, as a state senator, to improve a local community. Was that a favor for the eventual residences of Cottage View Terrace, or just a favor for New Kenwood LLC? The project had to be built by someone, and it was built with no controversy. And can you say for certain that Obama knew that Rezko was attached to New Kenwood LLC?
The two letters, which are identical and sent on the same day to the same person, proves nothing, except that Obama wanted the New Kenwood LLC Cottage View Terrace project built.

BTW. Last I heard, taking on interns is not considered a political favor.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:54:55 AM EST

Re: To truthteller2007. (2.00 / 1)

You are citing the Obama campaign as a fact?  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:59:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

I am citing the Chicago Sun-Times article you linked.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:13:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (2.00 / 0)

And they are citing the Obama campaign.  They also cite Rezko's attorney in the passage you reproduce.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:19:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]

now you're questioning what politicians do for... (none / 0)

their constituents??  if you want to do that, then you open the clintons back up to selling the lincoln bedroom.

oh, wait.  i forgot.  there's one standard for hillary and another for everyone else.  power has its privileges, and hillary will make sure she has her's...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:06:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: now you're questioning what politicians do for (2.00 / 0)

the project for which obama wrote the letter was located outside of obama's district.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:08:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

the letters were sent to two different individuals.  apparently obama's staff in springfield did not type the correct greeting in the second letter.

and why did obama write the letter after he received the contribution from rezko?  and why did he write a letter for someone whose tenants lacked heat during a chicago winter for 5 weeks.  surely he and other elected representatives were aware of this problem.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:01:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

Because he wanted the New Kenwood LLC Cottage View Terrace project built.
Also, if Obama had talked to Rezko about Kenwood LLC, why would Rezko, an indicted man, deny such conversations ever took place?
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:17:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

Rezko refuses to discuss Obama with reporters.  One must also consider that this is the man whose wife participated in the questionable scheme that enabled Obama to purchase his mansion below market value.  

Obama and Rezko clearly have an agreement.

This article is one you may find edifying.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:23:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

please cite the article were rezko talks about... (none / 0)

blagojevich.  or any chicago politician.

once again, another example of your double standards.  come on, admit it.  you're not really a democrat, are you?


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:08:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: please cite the article were rezko talks about (none / 0)

click the link to the article embedded in the comment to which you responded.  it is a five page article, and i recommend you read the entire piece.  i also recommend you read every single article i cite in the diary.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:14:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (2.00 / 1)

and citing burton and rezko's attorneys as impartial parties who offer facts is somewhat laughable.  and why was obama writing letters on behalf of his former boss?  or do state senators' former bosses always land deals with government entities?


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:03:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

Unless I am mistaken, the letters giving Obama's support to get the New Kenwood LLC Cottage View Terrace project built were sent from Obama's Senate office, not from his employer's.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:23:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

A part time legislator, he also worked for the Davis law firm.  And according to the Sun-Times, he worked for the law firm in 1998, the same year he undertook a case related to Rezko's slumlord land business.  

Obama was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:25:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]

also a part-time job from which he drew less... (none / 0)

than his senate salary.  the firm has said that there were weeks were barack only did four billable hours worth of work.

but that's truth.  and what is true is not what you are interested in here...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:10:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: also a part-time job from which he drew less.. (none / 0)

his history with that law firm and their client, rezko, involves more than just obama's work at the firm.  but obama worked at the firm the year he wrote letters for rezko and davis on his state senate letterhead.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:12:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

the fact check states he wrote the letters from his illinois state senate office.  the problem the fact check elucidates is the potential conflict of interest of a state senator who writes letters on behalf of his boss and his boss's clients.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:27:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]

that's the swiftboat version... (none / 0)

a more common way to see this is that obama had letters written on behalf of his constituents.  because allowing poor black families to freeze is immoral.

oh, that's right.  you're supporting hillary.  she doesn't mind doing immoral.  

here's the truth: barack doesn't take immoral stands.  you may be against helping poor black families get heat during the winter, but barack wasn't.  that you find this incriminating is not only shameful, it shows you for exactly what you are.

really, admit that you're a republican.  not even one of hillary's democratic supporters would be against getting heat turned on for poor black families...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:14:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]

LOL (2.00 / 1)

I do a favor for someone and then I say "this wasn't a favor" and that makes it NOT a favor?  Are you kidding?


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:57:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

This user has 0 credibility (none / 0)

MollieBradford is someone who, on Martin Luther King day, linked to a white-supremacist cite which referred to the Rev. King as "Marxist Michael King," to back up a desperate Obama smear.   When confronted, she tried to use a Townhall.com article by Linda Chavez to back up her libels.  And she never admitted she was wrong, never apologized.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 10:01:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]

stalker spam (1.00 / 1)


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 10:42:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This user has 0 credibility (none / 0)

You've made your point.  And you given this same response to Mollie several times.  You're spamming.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:01:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

Yes it is, it's a favor to the father, the campaign donor.


by Marsha1 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 03:35:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: To truthteller2007. (none / 0)

Obama is honest and open and disengages with Rezko.

Clinton gets in bed with them (Peter Paul, Tsu, and now Korge) and names Corrupt people "FL Finance Chair"
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2008-01-24/ news/hillary-clinton-s-money-man/

People who live in glass houses should never throw stones....


by antimud2008 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 05:19:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Inaccurate and full of innuendo... (none / 0)

you state: "During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman Tony Rezko and his associates than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found."

the amount that you imply obama has received from "rezko and his associates" was $168,308.  more than 80k has been given to charity.

most people would say that 80 is almost half of 168.  but not you!  your immense hatred of barack is too great.

feel free to prove the rest of your allegations.  all you've given here is innuendo.  now there's lots of petty and disgusting innuendo out there about hillary, but i have to much class to repeat it.  obviously, the same cannot be said of you.

you fail to mention that the building obama got money for was in his state senate district.  the people who benefited were his constituents.  an honest person would consider that constituent services.  but not you!

wanna talk about how much pork hillary got earmarked for new york?  it certainly cannot be counted in the thousands!

finally, it is stupid to consider rezko and obama as having major connections.  patrick fitzgerald doesn't.

rezko raised more than $12M for governor blagojevish, which is why he's under indictment.

rezko raised more than $5M for speaker madigan and his various committees.

there is no reason to believe at this point that rezko raised more than 80,000 for obama, over ten years.  as has been pointed out before, the suntimes computer analysis assumes too many things: once connected to rezko, always connected to rezko; that he employed certain people for the whole ten years; that people who lived in obama's senate district only contributed because of rezko.  

you are, of course, free to prove any of this.  but this is nothing more than swiftboating.  it's republican smear tactics, against a democrat.

you're really george w. bush, aren't you?


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 04:57:17 AM EST

Re: Inaccurate and full of innuendo... (2.00 / 1)

you are wrong.  the building is actually outside of obama's senate district, which makes the letter he wrote even more questionable.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:04:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

what's the address? (none / 0)

clearly, you mean outside his senate district now.  after redistricting...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:15:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: what's the address? (none / 0)

it was located outside of his senate district.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 11:50:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]

no, it wasn't. (none / 0)

but thanks for trying to confuse the issue with your errant understanding of the facts.  shows your true republican nature...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:23:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: no, it wasn't. (none / 0)

read the article: it was located four blocks outside the senate district.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:30:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

that's why i asked for the address.., (none / 0)

you are clearly confused.  you are talking about one property, and i am talking about another.  since you realize that rezmar developed numerous properties, i'd think you would have understood this.

the property i was discussing was inside obama's state senate district.  you seem very confused by that...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:59:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Inaccurate and full of innuendo... (none / 0)

some claim rezko raised over $14 million for obama.  but i rely on the sun-times, which only cites donations directly connected to rezko's immediate bundling network.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:05:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

i call bull on your cite... (none / 0)

if rezko had raised 14M for obama, he'd have raised more money for obama than all the money obama raised during the period that rezko was involved.

and citing the suntimes hardly makes the charge credible...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:17:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Inaccurate and full of innuendo... (2.00 / 1)

and you neglect to consider how rezko hosted an expensive fundraiser at his winnetka home for obama.

and regarding kenwood llc, the building was two blocks outside the senate district of obama.  but obama wrote the letter nonetheless.  this obviously has everything to do with the projects partners, obama's former boss, who left the davis law firm one year earlier, and rezko, for whom obama did legal work that year.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:07:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]

unlike you... (none / 0)

i don't comment on things i know nothing about.  i'd need more facts.  i certainly don't rely on the suntimes to provide them for me...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:19:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: unlike you... (2.00 / 1)

i have researched obama's personal, political and fiduciary relationships to rezko since the problematic real estate transaction in 2005.  a resident of the chicagoland area, you suprisingly know very little about obama's checkered past with rezko.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 06:11:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

which is why i accuse you of swiftboating... (none / 0)

you are deliberately taking things out of context to imply behavior that is untoward.  we recognize that behavior.  it's certainly not behavior we find in democrats...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:11:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: which is why i accuse you of swiftboating... (none / 0)

enjoy the day.  i understand you support obama, and i understand you necessarily have to ignore your candidate's various shortcomings.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:14:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]

we don't know yet that rezko is a shortcoming... (none / 0)

there's nothing proven yet to suggest that barack did anything immoral, illegal or unethical.  if someone does, my support will end.  but what you've written is neither new nor does it fall into those categories...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:35:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: we don't know yet that rezko is a shortcoming. (none / 0)

thank you for your opinion.  too bad the facts i cite militate against the various claims you make.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:35:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

facts like 80 is one-third of 168???? (none / 0)

your "facts" only show that you are making specious claims!


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:24:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: facts like 80 is one-third of 168???? (none / 0)

your impertinent comments are products of your diabolical disingenuousness.  


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:31:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: which is why i accuse you of swiftboating... (none / 0)

Rezko lives in Wilmette, a very wealthy suburb of Chicago, and he lives there on MY tax dollar, stolen from the poverty stricken.

How does this reflect on Obama, with the average voter?

So, Obama is for the working man, right?

I'd vote for Huckabee, too.


by Marsha1 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 01:44:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I quote (2.00 / 1)

the Chicago Sun-Times:

The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama's former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama's state Senate district.

Read a few articles before engaging in a vain attempt to invalidate my rigorous diary.


by truthteller2007 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:10:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]

rigorous??? (none / 0)

what a crock!  want to tell us again how 80 is one-third of 168?

or how you bait and switch here?  i talk about one building and you talk about another?

let's not use terms with which you are unfamiliar...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:23:04 AM EST
[ Parent