Don't Concede Issues of Ethics and Clean Government to McCain

John Edwards making the case for his candidacy:

"Well, he is starting to look like the Republican nominee," Edwards said in response to a reporter's question about McCain, "and I think it's important for us to have somebody to run against McCain who can beat him. And national polls show that I'm the one who beats John McCain in the general election. And second, I think even more important than that, this is a guy who's made central to his political life campaign finance reform. It seems to me we ought to be putting somebody up against him who's never taken money from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists. Between the three of us, that's me." [emphasis added]

Leaving aside a debate over whether John Edwards would be the strongest Democrat to go up against John McCain in a general election, I'd like to focus a bit on Edwards' language here. I don't mean to pick on Edwards but rather to use his language here as an example of what I believe we cannot and should not do when dealing with McCain, particularly if he is the Republican nominee.

McCain has done a great job of courting the media, not only over the past 8 to 10 years but throughout his entire career, and on the basis of this close relationship with the establishment press he has been able to position himself as a true champion of clean government. But is he? Is this something that Democrats should be conceding to him?

The only reason why McCain took up the mantle of campaign finance reform was that he was intimately caught up in the Keating Five corruption scandal back in the 1980s -- a scandal that could have strong legs in a general election this year even though it occurred so long ago. In short, the scandal entailed Charles Keating, the head of a Savings and Loan institution that went belly up, and the steps he took -- including trying to call in favors from Senators to whom he and associates had given trips and donated campaign money -- to try to get Congressional investigators off of his back. In an era when the federal government is faced with the possibility of having to bail out billions or even trillions in bad debt resulting from the subprime lending industry, a politician's involvement in a corruption scandal linked to a similar boondoggle -- in the case of the savings and loan crisis, the federal government picked up a tab of close to $125 billion -- isn't necessarily going to be a positive.

And just how closely was McCain tied to the Keating Five scandal? Very. Though McCain might try to downplay his involvement, his campaigns received $124,000 from Keating and his associates during the 1980s (AP, 3/2/91), and McCain was described as being personally closer to Keating than any of the other members of the Keating Five (Roll Call, 1/20/92). What's more, McCain accepted more than $15,000 in free trips from Keating, including vacations to Keating's resort in the Bahamas -- trips that McCain failed to disclose at the time (New York Times, 2/28/91; San Francisco Chronicle, 12/3/90).

With a record like this, do we really want to concede issues of ethics and clean government to McCain? Shouldn't we instead be hitting him hard for his improprieties? I certainly think so. And I definitely hope that in the case that McCain wins the Republican nomination this year that whomever the Democrats nominate roasts McCain on the issue as he so deserves to be roasted.



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Look at it this way (2.00 / 2)

Which will have more of an effect on people, McCain's singing of "bomb bomb bomb Iran" or a 20 year old scandal that almost no one remembers?

Edwards is doing a little rhetorical kung-fu here.  He compliments McCain on an issue that will determine almost no votes in the general, allowing him to then argue against McCain on Iraq, the economy etc etc.

He also is repeating the biggest compliment that the press will give McCain (other than calling him a straight shooter) when they call him a life-time reformer, and then he says why his record gives him more of an ability to beat McCain on his "strongest" point.


"Keep the Faith"
by blue south on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:27:05 PM EST

not to mention that GOP opinion leaders (2.00 / 1)

hated McCain-Feingold. This isn't an issue that will help McCain in the primaries.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:33:43 PM EST
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Re: not to mention that GOP opinion leaders (2.00 / 1)

Great Point.  Everytime you mention campaign finance and McCain people will think of McCain-Feingold.  

McCain is on record giving Edwards credit for some of the specific language of the bill.  And the right mentions the bill as one of the top 3 reasons McCain isnt a conservative.


"Keep the Faith"
by blue south on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:49:23 PM EST
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Re: not to mention that GOP opinion leaders (none / 0)

McCain doesn't need help in the primaries anymore. He needs his base for fundraising and turnout in the general.


by Pender on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 03:03:43 PM EST
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Re: not to mention that GOP opinion leaders (none / 0)

My bad -- didn't realize, somehow, that this thread is old.


by Pender on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 03:06:10 PM EST
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Re: Look at it this way (none / 0)

I would have to agree that the Keating 5 scandal is ancient history. If I were McCain and it was brought up, I'd simply talk up how much I had learned from that scandal and then point to my accomplishments in reforming the institutions that led to the scandal. Blah, blah blah. I might even come out of the dust-up looking all the more like the straight-talking maverick I've hyped myself to be.

No, McCain has two major weaknesses TODAY. First is his age. He looks even older than he is. And he can't really do much about that. Second is how he has cozied up to Bush - that grotesque "hug" pic says it all. Tying him to the Bush albatross will be easy and effective. Another weakness is his hair trigger temper. Although the MSM won't goad him into displaying it, an effort by others should be made to do so.


by Ian S on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:03:13 PM EST
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you are right about his age (none / 0)

It's definitely his biggest weakness. I remember when Bob Dole was running that seniors were most likely to consider his age a problem in terms of whether he could handle the job. If McCain's age makes seniors less likely to vote for him, that's good for us.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:31:11 PM EST
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McCain and ethics (none / 0)

Great angle--Edwards framed the issue on McCain's
turf.  We shouldn't concede anything to McCain.

But what I'm most concened about is the rather thick coat of Teflon that McCain has, whether it's the media or his bio.  We have to make it stick, that's the hard part.  And who's going to remember a scandal from over 20 years ago?
Will be there a Bernie Kerik moment?

So go after McCain, but on our terms not his.


by mikelow1885 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:28:38 PM EST

We'll see - Republicans hate McCain (none / 0)

Wingnut am radio hates McCain.

My guess is they, like the Republican establishment, will settle on Romney in the end.


by dpANDREWS on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:36:44 PM EST

your word to God's ear (none / 0)

I like our chances against Romney very much.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:31:48 PM EST
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Romney, in the general could be tough (none / 0)

I think the only real easy out is Huckabee.

The rest all have their flaws but would be tougher.

Romney is smooth.  If you watch him he is a great campaigner.  He comes across a little like a really smart Ward Cleaver.  

I think Americans are sick of war and are focused on economic issues.   This fact hurts McCain and Giuliani.  Both have no real economic plan or credibility if they do roll out a plan.  Both can easily be painted as warmongers.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 09:06:40 AM EST
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Re: Don't Concede Issues of Ethics and Clean Gover (none / 0)

Edwards is the only Dem who does this consistently. He attacks the ReThugs.

HillBama do not, indeed cannot, do this. They are planning to run as ReThugs Lite and therefore would never, ever ruffle that 'base' in the absolutely delusional expectation that Republicans can, with a little persuasion be brought to vote Dem.

Yo! Barrack? How's that workin' out for ya?


by Pericles on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:58:33 PM EST

Thanks so much for this! (none / 0)

I was starting to get whiplash at the resurgence of McCain. Suddenly everyone is taking the old fool seriously again - and no democrat seems to be quite good enough to face mr 100 years in Iraq.
I happen to believe that any dem can beat him - if they count the votes.
The country is tired of war. 100 years, one million, crazy ol' man McCain has no chance - in an actual election.
by Robbedvoter on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:14:13 PM EST

Dream on. (1.00 / 2)

The media loves McCain. The media hates Hillary, as they should.


by nerdoff on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:17:07 PM EST
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the media's love affair with Obama (none / 0)

would end the day McCain clinched the nomination. Lieberman would help McCain play the part of the post-partisan reasonable moderate. So now McCain is right on Obama's turf, only McCain is much more experienced. The media will eat that up.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:33:14 PM EST
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Re: the media's love affair with Obama (none / 0)

McCain can cite Rezko in order to invalidate Obama during a debate on ethics.


by truthteller2007 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:46:18 PM EST
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Re: Thanks so much for this! (none / 0)

This is the place to ask, I guess:

Didn't McCain commit himself to Federal financing for the primaries?   And what about the general?
If so, he might be in the same less than great position that JRE was in had he been able to get the nomination.  (Sorry, DMD.)


by InigoMontoya on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:43:37 PM EST
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Re: Thanks so much for this! (none / 0)

please tell me you dont really believe this


by marketingman on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 11:28:52 PM EST
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Re: Thanks so much for this! (none / 0)

The McCain campaign struck a deal with Obama early in the piece and the FEC approved Obama's request to allow it in the general:


"The McCain campaign will now begin the process of accepting these general election funds, following the new FEC guidelines," McCain campaign manager Terry nelson said. "Should John McCain win the Republican nomination, we will agree to accept public financing in the general election if the Democratic nominee agrees to do the same."

Jim Kuhnhenn - McCain may opt out of financing system AP 1 Mar 07

My understanding this would only occur on mutual agreement of the respective nominees and so far Obama is the only one who has offered the same commitment, in fact he was the original proposer.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 02:04:48 AM EST
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McCain is the beneficiary (none / 0)

of some pretty substantial media support on this issue. There were reports that the NYTimes spiked a story about McCain and lobbyist connections sometime late last year after he called the paper and essentially begged them not to run the story. I wish we had more info on that.


by highgrade on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 11:27:23 PM EST

Re: Don't Concede to McCain (none / 0)

Edwards was making the legitamate point that McCain will TRY to run as Mr. Clean.  "Political life" is not necessarily the same as "real life".  Edwards alone can compete and win on McCain's purported issue, as well as on Iraq, the economy, health care, and youth.

If Edwards is maxed out because he's taking matching funds, and Clinton and Obama are maxed out because they've run out of rich people to hit up, then our 527s will need to come into play regardless.  Will their 527s come through for McCain?  


Take out the trash. Down with Saxby Chambliss!
by CLLGADEM on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 05:24:02 AM EST


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