Clinton wins decisevly and gets 13 delegates to Obama's 12 or vice versa. Look at the votes. Not the delegates. Look at MI votes. Look at NH votes. Coming off this the Clintons are going to go all out in SC. At best Obama gets narrow black based win. It's over.

If Obama can make this campaign about delegates rather than percentage of votes it would be a good thing for the process no matter who it winds up benefiting. More attention should be paid to the number of delegates by the media and less to meaningless percentages that they enjoy simply as a means to crown a "winner." The winner is he who gets the most delegates as far as I am concerned, it just isn't as sexy a story that way.

Now we just have to find out how the delegates were really assigned (I somehow doubt the campaign would lie, that would just make them look foolish...so now it is just a matter of who messed up.)
 

I don't know who's correct here, but if Obama's campaign is right, it's because of a strong performance in the heavily rural precincts in Nevada.

16 of the delegates are awarded by CD.

I think it's very hard to project the "we're the real winner!" message when you don't even stay around for a speech.

Whatever! Clinton won. Leave it to Jonathan Singer and the Obama campaign to spin it.

Tomorrow's headline will read, "Clinton upsets Obama in NV".

There is no "sweep"
No one is "toast"

just sayin'

I live in Denver...Denver is not a large city..
The recent concept of "free speech zones" will be challenged. Denver will be a precursor to MPLS.

This is not 2004..

However,; as ugly and repressive Denver will be...
MPLS will be weirder..

In this era of chainsaw at the knees...
there will be no middle ground..
but hey...please come to Denver...

in certain demographics is obviously very strong. If Obama couldn't beat her despite favorable media coverage, the union endorsements and more than 80 percent of the black vote, he has a steep hill to climb in most of the upcoming races (not counting SC).

Does anyone know what percentage of Nevada caucus-goers were independents, and how those broke down?

NH and MI. This delegate allocation is measure of just how democratic the caucus process is. Doesn't matter the country knows Clinton won decisively in NV. These weenies trying to present this as a victory when hero slinks off home without even thanking all those who fought for him. He's a wanker guys.    

Somewhat of a win for Obama?

13 to 12 is a win. Full stop.

On to South Carolina.

Rural precincts are yet to report.  10% of the state's precincts have not tabulated votes and delegates, and Hillary is ahead in some rural counties.

But early exit polls point to Huckabee win.

If Clinton beat Obama by 11% in Clark County and they got the same number of delegates out of it, that seems a little whacked.

But Clinton won some rural counties, paritcularly Nye and Mineral.  And half of Storey county has not reported.  I do not know how they can determine who won which delegates when so much of the vote is yet to be reported.

These are the same tactics used by Obama's Kenyan cousin Raila Odinga in his ongoing refusal to accept the popular vote there. Odinga's mantra is that his ODM Party won more seats and that there were voting irregularities.

The main difference is that Odinga's disenchantment was scripted by former Clinton advisor (and current hater) Dick Morris, while Obama's disenchantment is scripted by former Clinton advisor (and current hater) Adolph H. Axelrod. Both men were fired by the Clintons.

Hopefully Cousin Obama will not carry his campaign into the streets as Cousin Odinga has in Kenya. But the rhetoric here is becoming as heated as the rhetoric across the ocean which has resulted in nearly 1,000 deaths, 300,000 displaced persons, and a crippling of the economy in Africa's former "model of Democracy".

Don't jump on a plane without giving a victory speech.

The spin about delegates might work if Obama had only lost by a point or two. Trying to spin a win out of a 6 pt. loss is just sad.

The projected Iowa delelgate totals were Obama 16, Clinton 15, Edwards 14.  Doesn't seem like such a runaway result for Obama  and how is it that Edwards who came in second in the percentages got the 3rd place in delegates?  So what do the flukes of apportioned, weighted votes mean in this case?  Not as much as you would like.
However my understanding of the Iowa caucuses and I have now done them twice is that unlike Nevada, THE DELEGATES CHOSEN AT THE LOCAL PRECINCTS ARE PLELDGED, at least for the first round of voting at the state convention to their candidate.  

However in Nevada this was a beauty contest so the DELELGATES ARE NOT PLEDGED SO THESE DELEgates can vote for someone alse even on the first round vote for another candidate. The Iowa caucus delegate numbers are hard numbers and the Nevada caucus numbers are soft numbers, indeed they are just as real as wishes.

Therefore the significance of the delegate numbers mean even less than they did in Iowa.

If this understanding of the rules is wrong please find the text.  I am sure though of the Iowa rules as they were announced at the caucus and clearly stated in the materials from the state party...who, unlike nevada, are expert at this.

I have already posted these remarks at Open Left....but plagiarizing oneself is okay