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OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day

by Seymour Glass, Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:38:36 PM EST

Seems there's a New Political Party: the Obamacrats

In Nevada Barack Obama has put out a flyer reading, in part, "You Can Be A Democrat for A Day." It's a plea to caucus for Obama, even if you just become a Democrat for one day.

A copy of the flyer can be see here:

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view .php?id=26826

You can be a Democrat for one day.

Vote for Obama and then return to your voting status as you chose

Everyone regardless of party is welcome to be a Democrat for one day and vote.

Republicans, Independents, Everyone, you can make THE difference.

If you think a Democrat will win in November and you don't want Hillary you can come to the Democratic Caucus and vote for Obama.

Jauaury 19. 11 to 1 p.m

What can ya say? My God, each day brings more shocks that show just how Obama's campaign is willing to do ANYTHING to win. Even destroy the entire meaning of our Party's caucuses and Primary system. My God.

And that little thing about implying that President and Senator Clinton and a ever growing list of democratic leaders {and NH voters} are racists and so ...dividing our beloved Party along racial lines. Oh that...

To quote a great old Democrat from the olden days:

"Have they no shame. Have they no sense of decency?"

Tags: obama, nevada, hilllary (all tags)

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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be y (2.00 / 1)

Here are reproductions of the two Nevada fliers issued by the Obama campaign:

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:41:05 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be y (none / 0)

There is nothing on either of those flyers saying it is from the Obama campaign.

"I think we can do better. That is what Robert Kennedy always said. I think we can do better too. Won't you join me in the effort?" - Paul Wellstone

by Mike Nellis on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:12:30 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be y (2.00 / 0)

Other than the name and phone number of Obama's precinct captain, I suppose you're right.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:18:26 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be y (none / 0)

I saw that but that does mean that the Obama campaign approved these. You see, if the Obama put this flyer out, then it would say "Paid for by..." which it cleary doesn't.

I'm not saying Obama staffers don't know about it but it is obviously not been put out by the Obama campaign as has been implied on this post.

"I think we can do better. That is what Robert Kennedy always said. I think we can do better too. Won't you join me in the effort?" - Paul Wellstone

by Mike Nellis on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:30:06 PM EST
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yup it is pretty skanky (2.00 / 1)

not only are democrats racists according to Obama, but right wing haters should screw up our primary so that we get a nominee who is not supported by the majority of his own party.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:45:48 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 1)

Obama is going to have a tough time in those closed primaries that only allow Registered Democrats to vote on. About half the states on Feb 5 only allow Democrats to participate.

by Christopher Lib on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:46:21 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 1)

oh give me a break...Republiclintons

by Big Haircut on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:48:03 PM EST

Seymour, this goes on Daily Kos... (none / 0)

...I'll be your sponsor.

by andrewalker08 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:56:48 PM EST

Re: Seymour, this goes on Daily Kos... (none / 0)

Do you need links to the reproductions of the fliers?

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:58:30 PM EST
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Sure, although I'll probably be called... (none / 0)

...everything but a child of God over there.

by andrewalker08 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:04:23 PM EST
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Re: Sure, although I'll probably be called... (none / 0)

Check your inbox.

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:08:50 PM EST
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thats a spooky but profound novel (none / 0)

by cormac mccarthy

child of god, that is.

have fun. this stuff is hard to argue with, though they surely will.

Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!

by Seymour Glass on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:31:20 PM EST
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Re: thats a spooky but profound novel (none / 0)

I haven't read that one yet. Cormac McCarthy is awesome. I'll check it out tomorrow. What's your favorite?

"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety". Salvor Hardin

by Denny Crane on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 01:52:33 AM EST
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cool but id take my name off (none / 0)

i go banned yesterday cause they took my words - from a old comment -that i work in poltics - added that went door to door for hillary in h for a feew days- and said i was a paid hillary staffer shill online.

which i denied and is a lie...but...

Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!

by Seymour Glass on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:27:18 PM EST
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Re: Seymour, this goes on Daily Kos... (none / 0)

Please add the Florida version, which has been up since April.

People are brushing off the Nevada flyer as being an isolated thing, unknown to the Real Campaign, and quickly stopped. But www.obamaflorida2008.com has had this thing up since April. Their home page now just has a "performing updates" message, so better archive their "Dem for a Day" before it disappears. I'm circulating the Google cache which will take longer to disappear. Here are tinyurls for the Google cache:

http://tinyurl.com/24pvlg

http://preview.tinyurl.com/24pvlg

Quoting from the Google cache "as retrieved on Nov 30, 2007 02:11:00 GMT"
<I>
WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
....
But this is not about some "hard sell" to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the
Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent!
....
But we're finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became "Democrats for a Day." You might call them "Obamacrats!"</I>

by 1950democrat on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 06:58:02 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 1)

Pretty sad - will destroy his political career

vote blue in 2008

by sepulvedaj3 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 04:58:16 PM EST

HA-HA-HA (none / 0)

Might just get him elected.

You can do worse than opening up the party to new, enthusiastic voters.

Of course, he may be attracting a bunch of Hillary-bots. All are welcome to become real democrats.

by dataguy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:16:03 PM EST
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Re: HA-HA-HA (2.00 / 1)

I wasn't aware real Democrats were roundly opposed to Universal Health Care.

While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama

by bowiegeek on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:56:41 PM EST
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he-he-he (none / 0)

Gosh, that's a good one. I'm rollin' on the floor.

by dataguy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:17:37 AM EST
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Re: he-he-he (2.00 / 1)

Maybe you should take your seizure medication.

While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama

by bowiegeek on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 01:00:29 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

I know all those who responded so far are Hillary supporters but I don't see a problem with this.

This is politics and if a state has an open primary then this is what people will do.

Those independent voters made a difference in the Presidential general election in 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004. Being a big-tent party isn't that bad of an idea.

by afr114 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:03:18 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 1)

But he is not asking them to join the Party; he is asking them to perform the identity of a Democrat for a day for the sole purpose of derailing a Democrat.

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:05:22 PM EST
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Godalmighty, how hysterically funny (none / 0)

Obama is not trying to derail a democrat. He's trying to elect one, himself.

God, you people are thick.

by dataguy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:18:58 AM EST
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If we let independents vote... (2.00 / 1)

...In our primary, then what exactly is the point of being associated with the Democratic Party.

Independents get to vote in the general election AFTER the Democratic and Republican parties pick their nominees.

by andrewalker08 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:06:12 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 2)

It's one thing to reach out beyond the party in an attempt to build a big tent.

It's quite another thing to invite outsiders to "join for one day" because they dislike Hillary.

You're right that this is politics. And putting a request like this in writing is politically stupid.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:08:53 PM EST
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There are 2 kinds of people (none / 0)

One sees the rules and thinks: How can I work with those to achieve my objectives? These people are motivated by Obama

Others see the rules and think: How unfair! How wrong!! Those rules SUCK!!! I'm pissed as hell that someone is smarter than me. Those are Hillary-bots. Hillary-bots are unable to work with new situations.

It's too bad. This is a wonderful new opportunity.

by dataguy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:18:16 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

and you think the Clinton supporters law suit in Nevada is any different, maybe in tactic but not in strategy?

by afr114 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:07:08 PM EST

more obama lies (none / 0)

the NEA has not endorsed hillary

Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!

by Seymour Glass on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:33:35 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A (2.00 / 1)

ABC News has contacted the precinct captain, and they are in possession of scanned copies of the fliers.

ABC News

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:14:38 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

Did you guys know that Obama actually didn't make that flyer. That was made by someone who just wanted Obama elected. Obama has no knowledge of this flyer.

by puma on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:15:45 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 1)

His name is printed on the flier, and his precinct captain is affiliated with his campaign.

by truthteller2007 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:17:16 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

Exactly...if Hillary and every other campaign has to be responsible for every move and word that gets uttered by people loosely associated with their campaign...then tham same should apply to Barack Obama.

by americanincanada on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:21:39 PM EST
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dont i recall obamaites (2.00 / 2)

goin nuts about a couple of hillary volunteers and emails?

Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!

by Seymour Glass on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:36:03 PM EST
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Re: dont i recall obamaites (2.00 / 0)

Exactly what I was thinking. Double standards everywhere.

by LakersFan on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:40:00 PM EST
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OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

No. We can't hold anything against Obama because that would be racist.

by hwc on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 07:29:38 PM EST
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Obama knows nothing Clinton knows everything (none / 0)

Probably about right.

by ottovbvs on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:30:02 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 3)

This is hilarious:

Buchanan told ABC News that after leaving about 100 of the fliers in mail slots and doors yesterday he realized the message he was sending was "negative."

"This is not Obama," he says he thought to himself.

So after dropping off around 100 fliers calling on Hillary-haters to change their registration for a day, Obama's precinct captain suddenly realizes how wrong it is to make such a negative appeal.

What a touching story. I'm reminded of Mike Huckabee telling the press about his courageous decision not to run that negative ad in Iowa, even as he showed it to all of them.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:23:10 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

You guys can't get enough Obama bashing in in a day can you? A year ago you all thought Clinton was a Republican in disguise, and now Obama is? I swear, I'm embarassed to be a Democrat after what I see some of you guys write on here.

by Big Haircut on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:30:38 PM EST

Obama and his supporters (none / 0)

find ways to work to win.

Hillary and her supporters find ways to bitch, moan, kvetch, complain, and otherwise do nothing but annoy real Democrats.

It's really kind of pitiful. You'd think that the Big Tent Party would welcome new attendees, and would open our arms to these seekers after truth. But, not Hillary-bots.

by dataguy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:06:48 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (2.00 / 2)

Why in the world should Obama get a pass on something people associated with his campaign do? None of the other candidates do.

by americanincanada on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 05:45:24 PM EST

Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

This was actually started by a group of Obama activists in Florida in about February of 2007 who kept hearing folks tell them that they liked Obama but were registered as Independents or Republicans. In fact, they started using the word "Obamacrat" and did so trying to mobilize his supporters in Florida. While I am a registered Democrat and have been since the day I turned 18, I know the folks who got this started and I can pledge to you that they are good solid Democrats. By all means, they want people to maintain their registration as Democrats, but it was not an end-all. As far as who is running the operation in Nevada I have no idea, but I think this is an incredibly intelligent move by Obama's campaign to harness all of his support in the state and across the country and use the electoral rules to his advantage.

by freepursuits on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:40:45 PM EST

You are right (none / 0)

100 %

These hillary-bots are great at bitching, moaning, complaining, kvetching, and bitching.

They aren't good at winning, it seems.

I like this idea. Bring in new people Get them to vote Democratic.

It's good that it's with Obama people. If they caucused with Hillary-bots, they would be nauseated and bilious, and never vote DLCemocratic again.

by dataguy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:26:33 AM EST
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I might strongly dislike Republicans (none / 0)

but I can't imagine spending 2 hours to go caucus for a Republican--I don't care how much I can't stand them. Wouldn't people have better things to do with their Saturdays? Especially in the middle of the day? Do people even Republicans hate Hillary that much that they would give up the middle of their Saturday to stand in a room to caucus for Obama? This distribution of the flyer seems really dumb.

by ademption on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 07:53:36 PM EST

Wonderful!!! (none / 0)

I love this. Obama is bringing more to the party every caucus. Of course, its tremendously threatening to the Hillary-bots.

I feel sorry for you clueless dweebs who cannot think outside the box. Obama finds ways to work with the rules, Hillary-bots find ways to whine, bitch, moan and complain. Hillary and her supporters are unable to think creatively.

Gosh, if they can't beat Obama fair and square, what will she do with a real problem?

by dataguy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:03:33 PM EST

Re: Wonderful!!! (2.00 / 1)

He's not bringing more people to the party...in fact, he is telling them not to worry because they don't have to stay democrats. That is using loose rules for your own personal benefit. it has nothnig to do with the party. It HURTS the party. New people would be encouraged to BECOME democrats for a lifetime...not just a day...and not just for Obama.

by americanincanada on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:22:32 PM EST
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did you bother to read past the headline? (none / 0)

"Buchanan says the Obama campaign didn't know about his flier. "I've been trying to reach them today, but Obama's in Reno today so it's been tough to reach them," he says.

Neither the Obama nor Clinton campaigns commented to ABC News."

The guy doesn't work for the campaign does he? No, he doesn't. He volunteered to do his precinct. Why would you repeat this as done personally at the direction of Obama? Why is your post so fact free? This is sooo far behind the curve over at Salon they're already laughing. http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/i ndex.html

"The answer from Buchanan: Nothing's "going on" with Obama, because the flier was his effort and his alone."

Man, you gotta do at least a bare minimum fact check.

by markt on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 08:24:12 PM EST

Does Salon know about Florida? (none / 0)

Do you have a better link at Salon?

Did they know about the Florida version, dated April? Google cache at http://tinyurl.com/24pvlg

Obama would have a harder time disavowing all knowledge of this one, as it's been up for months.

by 1950democrat on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 07:08:14 AM EST
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Scumbag Alert (2.00 / 1)

Via The Page: http://thepage.time.com/

Obama spokesman Burton on the flier: "We've learned that one individual who volunteers for the campaign was making the flyer and we've instructed him to stop creating and distributing it. But make no mistake, we want as many independents and Republicans to become Democrats and help to build a new governing majority in this country."

You don't want them to become Democrats: you want them to help you defeat Sen. Clinton.

I do not live Obama.

by lonnette33 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:30:24 PM EST

Re: Scumbag Alert (none / 0)

I meant to say, I do not like Obama.

by lonnette33 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:30:44 PM EST
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Lonnette (none / 0)

Let me ask you to be a little more open-minded and accepting. I'm a Clinton supporter, too, but Clinton will not be elected without the support of most of the people who are supporting Obama now.

The flyer is heinous, but there is zero evidence that Obama or his campaign was behind it. They've done all that they can reasonably be asked to do, which is renounce it.

Cut 'em some slack, please. Clinton doesn't need supporters who can't interact positively and cooperatively with the rest of the party. When it boils down to it, all us Democrats are in this thing together.

by Trickster on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 11:03:00 PM EST
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Re: Lonnette (none / 0)

Exactly.

by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:42:21 AM EST
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Re: Lonnette (none / 0)

You missed the point and I don't have the time to go back and forth with you over something that should be very obviouis whether you are a Clinton Supporter or not. You don't agree with my assessment. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:44:57 AM EST
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Let me put it differently then (none / 0)

I have noticed that you have made a number of very abrasive posts. I fear you are making enemies in the Obama camp.

A large segment of the Democratic Party is supporting Obama now. If we don't get them back for the election, Clinton CANNOT win.

Hillary doesn't need supporters who are rude and combative with Obama supporters. Supporters like you could cost her the election.

And I don't give a damn what you think about my assessment, dear. You need to hear this and you need to think about it.

by Trickster on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:51:33 PM EST
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Re: Let me put it differently then (none / 0)

I have noticed that you have made a number of very abrasive posts.

Do you think I care what you or BO supporters think? Not.

by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 02:11:31 PM EST
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Re: Let me put it differently then (none / 0)

Please be honest with yourself. You can cost our candidate the election.

by Trickster on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 03:14:27 PM EST
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Re: Let me put it differently then (none / 0)

You're getting on my nerves Trickster.

by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 04:53:54 PM EST
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Re: Lonnette (none / 0)

"seems to suggest" is related to "fact" exactly how?

We are all complicit until Habeas Corpus and privacy are restored, secret gulags are emptied, and torture is ended.

by CwiteSo on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:59:02 AM EST
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I hadn't heard that about Florida (none / 0)

Damning if true. Do you have a cite?

by Trickster on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 03:16:01 PM EST
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Re: I hadn't heard that about Florida (none / 0)

read this diary.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/14/1754 42/674

by lonnette33 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 04:53:23 PM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

You know, I had already skimmed that diary without even realizing that it was about Florida--I thought it was another diary about the Nevada deal. The author might think about putting his focus a bit more up-front.

If it's truly a national strategy--if it truly comes from the campaign--geez, that's heinous.

by Trickster on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 06:25:35 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA: You Can Be A Democrat For One Day (none / 0)

Is anyone else as concerned as I am about how divisive this has all become?
I had heard Obama was all about bringing everyone together, but certainly not in this way???
I am also increasingly alarmed by certain types of people Obama is attracting with his campaign. A certain level of fanaticism, militantism.
I think the above cited tactic, even if not campaign sanctioned, is representative of a far greater problem. People in this country are angry and frustrated and are using their fervor for their candidate to pour those emotions into.
By remaining vague, Obama becomes an empty vessel where discontented Americans can pour their individual hopes and dreams, in addition to their angst. Potentially very dangerous territory.As many of these followers ultimately find out that Obama was not who they had erroneously thought he was, by way of their own projections.
You can not sustain being "all things to all people" it is a strategy that is doomed to fail.

by asher on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 01:43:38 PM EST

Florida "Dem for a Day" Google cache url (none / 0)

http://tinyurl.com/24pvlg

http://preview.tinyurl.com/24pvlg

Quoting from the Google cache "as retrieved on Nov 30, 2007 02:11:00 GMT"

WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
....
But this is not about some "hard sell" to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the
Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent!
....
But we're finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became "Democrats for a Day." You might call them "Obamacrats!"

by 1950democrat on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 06:54:41 AM EST

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