Dick Durbin's Phony Moralizing

Of course Senator Dick Durbin, a fine man and politician, is doing the work of the Obama campaign when he says:
I'm really troubled by his questioning the sincerity of Barack Obama's opposition to the war in Iraq . . .
Durbin, a staunch Obama supporter had no qualms apparently when Obama was accusing Clinton and DURBIN (and McCaskill, Nelson et al) of fomenting war with Iran when they voted for the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment:
Barack Obama is the ONLY major candidate for president to oppose both the Iraq War from the very start and the Senate amendment that raises the risk of war with Iran," the front of the Obama mailer stated. The back is printed with the line, "While other Democrats voted for the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment, Barack Obama opposed another Bush foreign policy fiasco."
What did Durbin say about that? Nothing of course. This is all politics. More . . . Oh by the way, Obama did not oppose Kyl-Lieberman, he was not even there to debate on it or vote on it. But he felt comfortable accusing Durbin and Clinton and others Dems of fomenting war with Iran. For the record, I believe voting for Kyl-Lieberman was a mistake. I also believe NOT voting against it or being there to debate it, as Obama did, was also a mistake.



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I know why Durbin did it (none / 0)

and to be honest, I have no problem with it. He is working for his candidate. I am rather annoyed by the high moralizing that Obama supporters are trying to do with it.
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:28:26 PM EST

Re: Dick Durbin's Phony Moralizing (2.00 / 1)

What are Obama's supporters supposed to do?  The Clinton's and their supporters have repeatedly made statements that were probably not necessary and are at LEAST borderline offensive.

If Obama doesn't do anything, Dems will think the guy is not a fighter and not vote for him.  If he responds, he's playing the race card.

A brilliant Clinton strategy.


by tom32182 on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:38:29 PM EST

What does that have to do with my post? (2.00 / 1)

What are Obama supporters supposed to do? Stop acting as if Obama does not do politics, does not play racial politics, does not do what pols do. Honestly, you ignored my post entirely. Typical from an Obama supporter.
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:40:51 PM EST
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Dick Durbin's a great guy (none / 0)

As a constituant, I really appreciate Sen Durbin.  He's one of the good guys.

His statement, where he told off Bill the spotlight hog, was a model of reason and restraint.  Bill is getting out of control.  He should go back to doing whatever he does best as ex-president, which is something or other, i forget what.


by dataguy on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:47:01 PM EST
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A model of cynical politics (none / 0)

Where was Durbin urging restraint on Obama when discussing K-L? He is a campaign operative on this one. It is ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:55:41 PM EST
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Sure (none / 0)

But what he really is in this context is an Obama campaign operative.
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:13:02 PM EST

For god's sake (none / 0)

Try, just try, just for once, to spell his name right.

DICK DURBIN.  Note the I.

And he's not a concern troll, you dweebless twit, he's a senator, and he's the assistant majority leader.  If Hillary is good, someday she too might become the Assistant Majority Leader.

You people are so involved in spewing out the hit pieces that little details just go by the boards.  So many many errors, lies, inuendos, misstatements, incorrect components, that little of any value can be trusted.


by dataguy on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:16:32 PM EST

For gawds sake (none / 0)

Stop with this nonsense. Dick Durbin IN THIS CONTEXT is an Obama campign operative. You are making a fool of yourself.
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:22:59 PM EST
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Re: Dick Durbin's Phony Moralizing (none / 0)

Well, Durbin wasn't completely silent in response to Obama's criticism regarding Kyl-Lieberman. Although Durbin didn't exactly express any kind of moral disappointment in Obama (i.e., he wasn't "really troubled"), he did basically say Obama was dead wrong concerning the practical significance of that legislation.

Here's the excerpt from an interview with Durbin:

MR. HUNT: Your presidential candidate and Illinois colleague, Barack Obama, this week criticized Hillary Clinton's vote to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. He said it was the same sort of reckless and misguided vote as her support for the Iraqi war five years ago. Do you agree with Senator Obama?
SEN. DURBIN: No, I don't. And it's rare that Barack and I disagree on an issue of this magnitude. And I understand the presidential campaign, but I read that Kyl-Lieberman resolution very carefully and announced I wouldn't vote for it unless they changed it dramatically. They agreed to remove two offensive paragraphs that I thought went way too far. This sense of the Senate, I don't believe gives any authority to the president of the United States to invade Iran or any other country. I think that was very clear during the course of the debate. I have the same concerns that Barack Obama does about this administration and what they might do with the power that they have. But I don't think this resolution gives them a green light to do anything.

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics /2007/10/durbin_disagrees_with_obama_on. html

Again, it's not quite the same kind of remark as his comment relating to Clinton, however it is more than complete silence.


by DPW on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 06:14:17 PM EST

Re: Dick Durbin's Phony Moralizing (none / 0)

Durbin is correct on the substance, regarding the history of the war resolution and Bill Clinton's role and all that.

I think you even agree that he's correct on the substance.

I can agree with you that he's acting as an advocate for Obama, and not as a disinterested observer who's just chiming in, but I really don't see why it matters so long as what he says is correct.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 07:53:16 PM EST


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