The Endorsement Wars Heating Up

Measuring the value of an endorsement is an uncertain science at best. There are some tangible benefits, of course. For example, the endorsement of a union brings you enormous organization and boots on the ground and that of a high profile elected official means a superdelegate at the convention, favorable press coverage and, potentially, access to a huge e-mail list.

There are intangible benefits as well. Hillary Clinton rolled out high level support early to add to the sense that she was inevitable; Obama is doing so late to capitalize on Iowa momentum and make sure it's not blunted by his slim loss in NH. And he's getting some big ones. Yesterday alone, Obama received the endorsements of Senators John Kerry and Tim Johnson as well as Ned Lamont and California Congressman George Miller. Today Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano has endorsed him.

Hillary Clinton on the other hand, having blown her sitting senator and governor endorsement wad already, is rolling out more targeted low level local endorsements to help shore up support in the upcoming Nevada caucus. Just today, in an attempt to undermine the importance of the Culinary Worker Union endorsement of Obama, the Clinton campaign is touting the support of Las Vegas culinary workers who are ignoring the union. Additionally, on the heels of the endorsement of Nevada congresswoman Shelley Berkley, which was announced earlier this week, yesterday saw Clinton receive the support of Nevada State Senator Bob Coffin (who represents Las Vegas) as well as notable hispanic leaders (and former Richardson supporters) U.S. Ambassador Edward Romero and former HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros. Today, we hear rumblings that New Mexico Lietenant Governor Diane Denish is "leaning" toward endorsing Hillary.

But what if you get the best of both worlds: high-level elected leader with strong local roots and influence in a crucial primary state? That's just what might be about to play out in South Carolina. From The New York Times.

Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking African-American in Congress, said he was rethinking his neutral stance in his state's presidential primary out of disappointment at comments by Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton that he saw as diminishing the historic role of civil rights activists.

Mr. Clyburn, a veteran of the civil rights movement and a power in state Democratic politics, put himself on the sidelines more than a year ago to help secure an early primary for South Carolina, saying he wanted to encourage all candidates to take part. But he said recent remarks by the Clintons that he saw as distorting civil rights history could change his mind.

I don't know South Carolina well enough to gauge whether Clyburn's switching from neutral to Obama would spell disaster for Clinton there but it certainly seems to me that Clyburn represents as close to the endorsement motherlode as one could get this primary season. I've got to think the mere suggestion that he might come out for Obama probably puts him slightly ahead of Clinton in the endorsement wars as of this moment, but we'll have to see how that shifts as the parrying no doubt continues over the coming weeks.



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Re: The Endorsement Wars Heating Up (none / 0)

Bear in mind that Clyburn was with Kerry in '04 and didn't deliver much of anything.

The importance here is putting the underground racist Clinton campaign front and center.  And no, I'm not just talking about MLK or "fairy tale" (to be honest, I see no racial component to President Clinton's remark.)

Rather, three statements from this week by Clinton backers are deeply troubling:

1)  In HuffPo Monday, an unnamed Clinton strategist said Obama is nothing but the "candidate of the identity left."  No pun intended, this is the pot calling the kettle black ... Obama has never once in this campaign said "vote for me, I'm black."  But Hillary, at least once a day, says "vote for me, I'm a woman."  She's running the identity left campaign.

2)  Andrew Cuomo's nauseating "shuck and jive" remark.  He knew what he was saying and he still hasn't been repudiated by the campaign.

3)  The unnamed Clinton staffer in The Guardian today saying that people who support Obama want to have "a cool black friend."  Someone needs to ask Hillary if she's okay with her staffers making comments like this and if not, will she fire the next one who does ... it's obviously pretty easy to figure out who on staff has been speaking to the British press.

This is beneath a Democratic candidate for President, it's what Republicans do routinely ... racial code word politics.  If they keep this up, they won't just create problems for themselves in the primaries, but in the general election too.


by Dan Conley on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:23:50 PM EST

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Here you've got to admit if this is happening it's because his supporters are helping make it so and even some of his surrogates like Jesse Jackson Jr.

Identity left, maybe I'm get it wrong, but that seems to me to represent not only blacks but a lot of whites too.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:32:56 PM EST
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Please put away the drudge talking points. If the Obama campaign makes race an issue, he may well win SC, and mortgage the Feb 5. states. It is a foolish strategy and it undermines his entire message.


by StrongDem08 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:36:52 PM EST
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Well, Clyburn, for one, did not think it was a Drudge talking point when he talked to the Times yesterday.  Nor did Sharpton and nor did Tom Joyner, among others.

At the very least, they need to repudiate Andrew Cuomo.  And yeah, HRC needs to explain the MLK remarks on Meet the Press.

Obama doesn't have to talk about race.  The Clintons are clumsily doing it for him.


by ChrisR on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:22:22 PM EST
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Calling Bill Clinton racist is not a strategy for success.


by StrongDem08 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 06:07:33 PM EST
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Since when do we, as progressive democrats, start making accusations about people who have a record of supporting us on the basis of "unnamed" and unsourced rumor?
by americanincanada on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:28:41 PM EST

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Now hold on a minute ... these aren't just people off the street, they are CLINTON CAMPAIGN OPERATIVES speaking off the record, quoted by reputable reporters for Huffington Post and The Guardian, not Drudge.

These aren't "right wing talking points" they're the facts.  And I find it very disturbing that some Clinton supporters (not all, some right here have spoken out) think nothing of this.  These are disgusting comments being spoken by PAID supporters of Hillary Clinton. It's her responsibility to do something about it.

As for Jesse Jackson Jr., he's a jackass and Obama needs to repudiate him.


by Dan Conley on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:30:05 PM EST
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To say the words reputable and reporters along with Huffington Post is almoat laughable. They are clearly supporting Obama to the exclusion of all others. they should be called Obamington Post. I will believe these, rumors, when we get a name. Media outlets who release campaign rhetoric such as this that is meant to inflame and nothing else, sighting only unamed "supporters", "staff" or suggogates"...should be ashamed of themselves.
by americanincanada on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:35:40 PM EST
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Thomas Edsall is a reputable reporter ... if you knew anything about politics you'd know that.

And if you knew anything about American history, you wouldn't allow anonymity to be a defense against racism.  They didn't wear white hoods for nothing.


by Dan Conley on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 10:26:40 PM EST
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It will be interesting... (none / 0)

...to see who Gore endorses, if anyone.

I'm still agitated at Kerry smacking Edwards and publically endorsing Obama.

TrumanDem

Truman's Conscience


by DuvalDem on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:30:02 PM EST

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As a Clinton supporter, she needs to explain this. And Bill, STOP TALKING!

However, I do not question the Clinton committment to African-American values and community.

As for their supporters, their comments are just not right. They should apologize.


by American1989 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:30:31 PM EST

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You are such a wishy washy Clinton supporter. This has been proven by some of your diaries and comments. I wish you would just jump the Clinton ship and go with another candidate. We don't need you. You are getting on my last nerve.


by lonnette33 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 08:32:11 PM EST
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Black guy endorses black guy. Duh. (2.00 / 0)

That is going to be the universal reaction. It may make a difference in SC but then everyone is going to be amazed if Obama loses SC. As head sleaze, but shrewd political commentator said, if Clinton loses SC so what. She's playing a different game.


by ottovbvs on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:33:14 PM EST

Re: Black guy endorses black guy. Duh. (none / 0)

If she loses Nevada and South Carolina she will be going 1-3, not very good. All of the momentum will appear to be on Obama's side and that could help on February 5th when have the nation votes.


by Obama08 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:41:56 PM EST
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Re: Black guy endorses black guy. Duh. (none / 0)

Right ... and also, South Carolina isn't some weird mutant state in the south, it's fairly typical ... African Americans comprise a huge portion of Democratic turnout in every southern state.  Obama is also leading in Georgia ... and I expect he'll win Mississippi and Alabama and perhaps Virginia (where Gov. Kaine and Mayor Wilder are behind him.)

South Carolina will send a strong signal about how the southern states might go if this is a long drawn out campaign.  He's already proven his strength in the midwest and will show his strength out west in Nevada ... all Clinton has proved so far is that she can win in New England.


by Dan Conley on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:24 PM EST
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Re: Black guy endorses black guy. Duh. (none / 0)

who cares about these tiny red states in the south. The only southern state that matters in the presidential election is Florida


by maxstar on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:03:58 PM EST
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Hillary is losing the black vote. (none / 0)

She'll try to get it back by going to South Carolina and using her "southern" accent, but the world will laugh.


by nerdoff on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:49:54 PM EST
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It seems like Sen. Boxer's endorsement would be of immense value before 2/5--particularly to Obama, in order to help blunt this unhealthy race vs. gender narrative now developing.

Polling now shows Edwards in 3rd place in his home state of North Carolina, so if he finishes badly in SC, I'd look for him to drop out and endorse before 2/5 as well.

Gore's endorsement, post Tsunami Tuesday, would be of little value, so I think he'll weigh in soon.


by megaplayboy on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:35:35 PM EST

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Gore is not going to endorse. He needs the Clinton machine for a future White House run and he'll get it without endorsing Clinton but simply by staying on the sidelines.


by kristoph on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:04:56 PM EST
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it would be a terrible personal blow to Hillary. They are friends and one of boxers children married Hillary's niece or nephew


by maxstar on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:10:00 PM EST
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Re: Babs' daughter (none / 0)

    Nicole Boxer is or was married to one of Hillary's younger brothers. Boxer and Clinton are almost family, which is one of the reasons that in 1993 Boxer switched from supporting single-payer health insurance to backing the Clinton plan. Some of us Californians were not happy about that at the time.


by Zack from the SFV on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:26:19 AM EST
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Inside game (none / 0)

Endorsements don't necessarily add to the bottom line vote total.  However, endorsements engender courage for other elected dems to move away from Hill and Bill and support Obama as well.

At this stage of the game, he needs the stamp of approval from the dem establishment.


by aiko on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:35:40 PM EST

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I don't think that endorsements are going to be moving away from the Clintons right now. Obama's picking up undecided delegates right now it seems.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:41:50 PM EST
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Re: Inside game (none / 0)

Both are picking up superdelegates from bigwigs and littlewigs, but noone to our knowledge has moved from Clinton to Obama or vice-versa. You can see all the latest superdelegate endorsements at 2008 Democratic Convention Watch


Matt - DemConWatch
by msn1 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 06:21:59 PM EST
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I'm an African American (none / 0)

I say that to say to Obama and his supporters.

Your campaign is slowly getting pulled into the "black candidate" status, rather than a candidate who happens to be black.

if clyburn endorses Obama, it will help Hillary.

I still argue that if African Americans persist in the notion (spoken or unspoken) that they support Obama because of the historic nature of the "first A.A. with a real chance".  Many others, mostly whites will resent it.  We have preached "content of character" to everyone, and it would be an invitation to whites to backslide if african americans don't have integrity. Look how Hillary has had to fight for the white female vote. It has truly been up for grabs.


by yellowdem1129 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:39:51 PM EST

Re: I'm an African American (none / 0)

By that same standard, Clinton's playing the gender card will make many men resent her.

It also doesn't account for how Iowa turned out. Many blacks have been wary about Obama's chances because he's black, and (for example) Iowa helped rebuke that idea.

There's also the why part of Clyburn going from neutral to endorsing Obama. Claiming that MLK just gave inspiring speeches while LBJ was the one who got things done is pretty insensitive to civil rights.


by Nautilator on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 06:19:07 PM EST
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I agree with the parent. I think it would be a disaster for the Obama campaign to create racial divisions in an attempt to get out the black vote.

Race had no impact on Iowa specifically because the voters did not see his candidacy in this context.

Once it looks like he is a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton candidate he is done for.

The MLK comment may have been thoughtless but the 'fairy tale' comment was without racial overtones and the fact that controversial black leaders are rising in anger will just hurt Obama because it will give voters pause at the ballot box.


by kristoph on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:13:39 PM EST
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On the local endorsement side, it's nice she got the support of Bob Coffin, most senior in the Legislature  but saying "he represents Las Vegas" is a little misleading. 14 of the 21 State Senators represent Las Vegas and Clark County, since it's 2/3rds of the state population.


by Skipster on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 07:02:38 PM EST

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"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 10:17:38 PM EST

I wouldn't be surprised (none / 0)

If a large number of conservatives and Republicans in Michigan, disgusted with the Republican slate of candidates, picks up a Democratic party primary ballot just to vote uncommitted as a protest against Hillary Clinton.
Talk about registered Republicans sending a message to the Democrats; "we know a Democrat is going to win our state in the general election, we just hope it aint Hillary on the November ballot."
Hillary made a big mistake keeping her name on the Michigan primary ballot. If she wins big she looks like a cheater, who refused to be team player and stick with the game plan, or if loses big to uncommitted, then she looks like a horse's ass (and the Michigan voters will remember that most people of Michigan didn't vote for her).
The only way Hillary can save face is if she publicly states she made a mistake in keeping her name on the Michigan ballot when Edwards, Obama, Biden, and Richardson decided to take their names off of the ballot.
Hillary Clinton can lose little in Michigan, lose big in Michigan, or look like the horse's ass in Michigan, but she can't win it.
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 10:30:52 PM EST

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Clyburn publicly supporting Obama is really not going to change anything, because I'm sure he has been privately supporting Obama and the word has long gotten out in SC.  I think Obama got the Black vote in SC when he won Iowa, so Clyburns' public endorsement would just be gravy (and bandwagonish).


by Kingstongirl on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 11:20:45 PM EST

If Hillary wins the nomination (none / 0)

Many of us will drop out of the process.  We got excited when Edwards and Obama threatened her powerful machine but she is Republican lite and many of us will lose interest. Its very sad for America but it has happened before.  America gets another overly compromised President and continues downward.


Listening comes first
by Moonwood on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 10:55:09 AM EST


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