Catering at the Caucuses?

It has been customary for many caucus locations to allow supporters from the various campaigns to bring a little bit of food - cookies, brownies, etc. - into the room to share with supporters and, perhaps, as some type of minor enticement to undecided attendees or attendees whose first choice is not viable.  This apparently is being taken to new extremes this year.  One particular campaign, and I cannot confirm which specific campaign, has apparently hired Hy-Vee (a major Iowa grocery chain) to provide catered food at caucus locations.  

This has prompted the Linn County Democratic Party - the 2nd largest County - to prohibit all food at caucus locations.  The County Party does not want to damage its relationship with the schools and other locations who are allowing the caucus to take place in their facilities.  There is a concern that the mess associated with a large amount of food may cause schools, churches, or other providers of meeting spaces to turn down the County Party in four years when we try to find precinct locations for the next caucuses.  So, in Linn County at least, there will be no Hy-Vee catering or food of any kind allowed.

I also spoke with the Chair of the Jones County Democrats - rural County next door to Linn County.  He stated that food will be allowed at caucus locations in Jones County and he had not heard of campaigns planning to bring in food from caterers.  So, presumably, if any campaign decides to show up at a Jones County caucus location with food from Hy-Vee or any other grocery store, they will essentially be able to offer dinner to just about anyone unless the particular precinct chairperson orders them to stop.

Handing out stickers, buttons, or homemade baked goods at the precinct location is both innocent and routine behavior.  Providing transportation for folks who do not care to drive at night is simply a public service.  On the other hand, I find the idea that a campaign may essentially buy dinner for caucus attendees at the caucus location itself to be a bit more troubling.  It is really only one step removed from handing out ten-dollar bills at a caucus site.  

The mixed reaction by local Party officials is to be expected.  While a larger county Party may have the infrastructure in place to be aware of the idea of catered food and respond to it, smaller counties are simply less likely to be in a position to do anything.  

For all the money we may have spent unwisely in Iowa on the Dean Campaign, we never attempted to give caucus attendees an item of value at or near the actual caucus location.  While I do not think that the mere offer of a ham sandwich will sway too many Iowa Democrats, a systematic effort of mere offers may create an appearance of impropriety that we should try to avoid in order to maintain the integrity of the Iowa Caucuses.  



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Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

Gee I wonder which campaign has enough money to blow on dinner bribery....cough Hillary cough


by need some wood on Tue Jan 01, 2008 at 11:48:33 PM EST

Obama? (none / 0)

His 100 mil and his shallow campaign makes him a -  cough cough - suspect.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:03:12 AM EST
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Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

Its Clinton. It was reported in the NYTimes Sunday. They are also giving out snow shovels to all precinct captains and porcelain pins to women who promise to caucus for the first time.

All the more reason why they have to win Thursday. The burn rate of this campaign when we see their report on Jan 31 may well make Dean look like a skinflint.


by desmoulins on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:18:46 AM EST
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Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

Could you post a link, please?


by Nate Willems on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:26:44 AM EST
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Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

It was AdNag's A1 story about turnout, iirc.


by desmoulins on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:41:47 AM EST
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I thought the lapel pins were a brilliant idea (none / 0)

The article said that Hillary looks out for women wearing these at her campaign events and goes out of her way to thank them for caucusing for the first time.

Here is the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/us/pol itics/30vote.html


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:03:11 AM EST
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Re: I thought the lapel pins were a brilliant idea (none / 0)

Sure, but they don't come cheap. Nor do snow shovels, catering, 2 minutes of live tv time statewide, 250 statewide staff, PSB, DSG, etc. I think the amount they have invested in IA makes it a must-win for her, because I suspect she has spent away her financial advantage.


by desmoulins on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:08:26 AM EST
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Re: I thought the lapel pins were a brilliant idea (none / 0)

I am fairly confident that she and Obama have spent huge amounts of money in the 4th Quarter.  Obama has more paid staff and offices in more states.  He is going to be the big spender again as he was in Q3.


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by Vox Populi on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:24:04 AM EST
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It is really only one step removed from handing out ten-dollar bills at a caucus site.

Which would be a hell of a lot cheaper than the absurd amount of time and money the Democratic candidates currently waste on a state as insignificant as Iowa.

I wouldn't worry about the free sandwiches. I feel pretty confident that Iowa has "jumped the shark" and we can kiss the Iowa caucus goodbye starting in 2012.


by hwc on Tue Jan 01, 2008 at 11:49:03 PM EST

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 to maintain the integrity of the Iowa Caucuses

That's rich. There is no "integrity" in a process whereby 5% of the adult population in a lily-white state plays a major role in the selection of a Democratic nominee.

And, furthermore, the entire Iowa caucus concept is just a shakedown of the national candiates by a tiny, unrepresentative state that usually votes Republican anyway.


by hwc on Tue Jan 01, 2008 at 11:51:41 PM EST

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The sandwiches was an idea you suggested Hillary might do weeks ago because she is always so prepared.  I think it's perfectly lovely thing to do.  What sour grapes.


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by masslib1 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:35:42 AM EST
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Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

I agree, and before the Obomaite's complain too much. Obama has spent $2,000,000 more on ads in Iowa .


by del on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:10:19 PM EST
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Iowa (none / 0)

Iowa actually is kind of a "bell weather" state.

Narrowly went for Bush in 2004

narrowly went for Gore in 2000

went for Clinton in 96 and 92.


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by matty fred on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:37:05 AM EST
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socio-economically (none / 0)

IA is fairly representative of the US as well, and it is an "average" state in terms of population size.

Granted, Iowa is largely white, but NH is even more white and is less representative economically (it's one of the wealthiest states).


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:04:32 AM EST
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This reminds me of the early days, when candidates would sit at a table and bring whiskey, wine, and snacks to entice people to vote for them.  Absolutely disgraceful.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Jan 01, 2008 at 11:59:47 PM EST

Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

In the early days of the republic, it was usually brandy. Wine was actually a drink mostly of the wealthy and whiskey was mostly in the Appalaichian region where they could not get reliable deliveries of imported spirits.


by desmoulins on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:19:57 AM EST
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lol okay

Actually I said whiskey because I recently read a book about John Marshall's first run for Congress and whiskey/bourbon was the liquor provided. And with Richmond being near Appalachia, it makes sense...


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by Vox Populi on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:31:25 AM EST
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Iowa and New Hampshire too small? (none / 0)

I know many argue that small means retail politics, less focus on money, and people getting to know the candidates.

But this year with the large fields on both sides, the huge cash (on the Democratic side especially) things are different.  Some say likely caucus goers in Iowa are getting 15 calls a night, a ton of mail and in response to the overflow tuning out.

Might Iowa and and New Hampshire actually be too small for todays huge campaigns?

I am not up on populations but might there not be other "small" states that are not so small, and are possibly more ethnically balanced?


by dpANDREWS on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:08:23 AM EST

My question here ... (none / 0)

Has nothing to do with this years caucus.  This year is this year and the rules were set long ago for all to follow.  It is a fair contest all around.

My point is that is if candidates are going to shatter all fundraising records and spending records, as they have this year, might Iowa and New Hampshire be too small to handle that?  Might not a Ohio, Virginia, or Washington be better suited?


by dpANDREWS on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:11:57 AM EST
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Re: My question here ... (none / 0)

NO.....


by del on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:12:23 PM EST
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I understand the whiskey and wine objection, because alcohol can impair judgment, but what's the big deal if they provide a sandwich and beverage to people.  Even if it's a fancy sandwich, of like honey roasted free range turkey, caramelized onions, and roasted vegetables on artesian whole wheat bread, are people really going to make that the reason for their vote.  Unless we are talking a full on gourmet meal, with a keepsake bottle of wine or a gourmet goody basket for the road, I totally don't have a problem with the catering.


by Kingstongirl on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:09:31 AM EST

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Now that's a tasty sandwich!


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by dannybauder on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:17:29 AM EST
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I'm trying to think of the messes that will be left behind.  Will the campaigns who provide the catering be responsible for garbage removal?  For damage to carpet?  The Party is trying to protect itself and maintain good relationships.  More likely than not, the campaigns (especially if they lose) are going to leave the mess for the party workers to clean up.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:18:20 AM EST
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Damage to carpets?  Is this a keg party?

If it's Hillary, she is bound to have a clean up plan.  If I were in charge of this whole catering endeavor, I would have food at designated times.  You serve in the first hour or so of the caucus, and then clean up.  You follow that up with seconds, after the caucus has been going for a while(restore your supporters' energy), then clean up.  It's manageable and I don't see problem.  


by Kingstongirl on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:34:15 AM EST
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my precinct chair is not allowing any food (none / 0)

I don't know if this decision was made at the Polk County Democrats level, or if it's her decision. She said that she doesn't want to make a mess in the school, because we need to make sure we are allowed to use the facility for future caucuses. There really is no other remotely suitable building that would be convenient for our precinct.

Our precinct chair is also a captain for Hillary, by the way. So I'm certain there is no orchestrated attempt by the Clinton campaign to cater all the precincts in Polk County.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:06:26 AM EST
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honey roasted free range turkey, caramelized onions, and roasted vegetables on artesian whole wheat bread

That sounds like the attack ad Club for Growth will run against Hillary as a northeastern elitist.


by desmoulins on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:21:47 AM EST
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The money this brings to the state every 4 years must be pretty big- radio and TV advertising alone- New Hampshire must also benefit- new states should be first every year- that way at least poor states would be get a big windfall sooner or later at least for a bit.


by reasonwarrior on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:15:35 AM EST

Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

I don't know, but the Iowa caucuses are taking place around what will be dinner time for some people, and they disenfrancise enough people as it is, so if food gets people to show up and vote, that's good.

However, if it's used to bribe voters, that's definitely problematic.


by msrpotus on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:32:33 AM EST

Are you kidding me? (2.00 / 1)

It's definately Hillary and it's a perfectly nice idea. Catering from a supermarket is sandwichs and finger foods, what's wrong with that?  Actually,  HWC made an off hand comment about how Hillary would probably take the time to consider providing food for caucus goers, and I thought it was a fantastic idea.  What a dumb complaint, no offnese.  Give the iowans a little more credit.  They are not going to vote for someone because they gave them a wrap sandwich.


formerly bookgirl
by masslib1 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:34:09 AM EST

I can not believe you front paged this POS (none / 0)

A few free nibbles at a caucus?  Typical slanderous bs.  


formerly bookgirl
by masslib1 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:49:29 AM EST

Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (2.00 / 1)

You need to show up at what, like 6:30?  Many people will surely have to come straight from work, and it's a long process.  Giving them a sandwich will not be the death of the Republic.


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by Steve M on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:50:24 AM EST

Iowans eat dinner early (none / 0)

A lot of people work 8 to 4, and even those who work until 5 tend to eat dinner early. We have short commutes.

But I take your point.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:07:38 AM EST
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Peaches (none / 0)

When I lived in Chicago there was a guy running for Alderman named Piech who handed out peaches at his campaign stops. I think the Board of Elections made him stop.

I don't have a problem with people making home baked items for friends and family even if it's a technical violation of a rule but professional catering for voters funded by any candidate opens up all kinds of problems.


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by joejoejoe on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 03:11:26 AM EST
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i remember reading this in the nytimes and as i recall, hillary is doing this for two reasons.  the sandwiches are being served before the caucus actually begins, so not only does it serve as a bribe to show up, but it gives her campaign a headcount of who's coming and a little time to scare up the no-shows on their list.

it's pretty brilliant, but (in my opinion) kinda sketchy...

it reminds me of when i was a kid (in louisiana) and campaigns would go downtown, pick up bums, and then give them a pack of cigarettes after they voted.


by bluedavid on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:31:13 AM EST

Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

lol!


by IowaCubs on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 11:36:34 AM EST
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Hy-Vee are a good chain. I've had their catering a few times, quite tasty.

Honestly as long as the candidate doesn't pitch themselves to hard as the provider I'm not sure I have a huge problem with it.


by MNPundit on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:56:57 AM EST

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What's up brother Nate?  I hope things are going well for you!  Good luck with your candidate at the caucus.  

I'm a precinct captain for Obama, and we expect to win 4 out of 10 delegates in our precinct, but I feel that Edwards is going to win the state.

Hope to see you sometime soon...  Did I hear that Maggie was pregnant?  Awesome news.

Take care,
Phil James


by IowaCubs on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 11:09:31 AM EST

Re: Catering at the Caucuses? (none / 0)

Now you seem to be Iowa nice. Nice change, Oboma is not my candidate but nice post.


by del on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:16:40 PM EST
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