It's Never Too Early For A 2008 Competitive House Chart

Cook Political Report's House Editor David Wasserman released his first competitive House race chart for the 2008 election today. It includes 30 potentially vulnerable Democrats and 35 potentially vulnerable Republicans broken down into the following categories:

Likely Democratic - 17 members including NH-02's Paul Hodes and our slate of Indiana freshmen;

Likely Republican - 18 members including CA-50's Brian Bilbray and MN-06's Michele Bachmann;

Lean Democratic - 13 members including KS-02's Nancy Boyda and TX-22's Nick Lampson;

Lean Republican - 16 members including CO-04's Marilyn Musgrave and CT-04's Christopher Shays;

Toss-up - which right now only contains Republican congressman Rick Renzi in AZ-01.

A few observations:

- The Democratic half of the chart includes 26 of our 41 freshmen reps, while the Republican chart includes 4 of their 13 freshmen. This should come as no surprise since Republicans were unable to convert even 1 seat from Democratic to Republican hands last year. The four reps who shouldn't get too comfortable in their offices: FL-13's Vern Buchanan, IL-06's Peter Roskam, MI-07's Tim Walberg, MN-06's Michele Bachmann.

- The chart indicates the seats where a "serious primary challenger" or a retirement is possible and guess what? Every single one of them is a Republican seat. For example, CA-04's John Doolittle is listed as likely to have a primary challenger, OH-16's Ralph Regula is listed as a possible retirement and AK-AL's Don Young is listed as both.

- The Republican half of the chart includes the incumbents of seats being challenged for a second time by Democratic candidates who appeared at YearlyKos including CA-04's Charlie Brown, WA-08's Darcy Burner, WY-AL's Gary Trauner, IL-10's Dan Seals and NY-29's Eric Massa. I look forward to seeing the playing field expanded to include the seats soon to be held by other netroots champions Larry Grant (ID-01) and Scott Kleeb (NE-03.)

- The chart also includes Cook PVI numbers (i.e. NM-01's Heather Wilson is D+2 and PA-10's Chris Carney is R+8.) This Partisan Voting Index is defined by wikipedia as follows:

The index for each congressional district is derived by averaging the presidential election results in that district from the prior two elections, then comparing them to how the nation voted as a whole. The index indicates the more successful political party and how many percentage points higher than the national average for that party.



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Shay's is going down (none / 0)

only an awful opponent left him standing in 2006.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 01:03:21 AM EST

Re: It's Never Too Early For A 2008 Competitive Ho (3.00 / 1)

Both those Michigan seats (listed as likely Republican) will be in play.. A few of the MI-09 and one of the MI-07 candidates were at YearlyKos.  


by lpackard on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 01:12:11 AM EST

ehh (none / 0)

I hate to be a negative-nancy pelosi, but Bachmann's going to be harder to knock off than you make her out to be. Sure, she had the crazy Iran thing, but she's managed to keep a fairly low profile since, and this district, while in Minnesota, isn't exactly part of the inner Twin Cities suburbs/small outstate cities that are trending liberal and producing the big wins for us in the state. The District's Cook PVI is R+5--not impossible, but a fairly awkward district by Minnesotan standards. In the state's 8 districts, only Blue Dog Dem Collin Peterson's 7th is more conservative at R+6. Now that doesn't mean we need to run a Blue Dog, but we're probably going to need to find a Tim Walz-like figure, a lot of netroots and(hopefully)/or DCCC support, and maybe another tractable gaffe or two by Bachmann to reinforce the "crazy" narrative.

In truth, this district's demographics would lend it well to a moderate Republican in the mold of Jim Ramstad in MN-03 (whose district is growing more and more liberal on him). The district is 96% white, and I would guess it's median income is on the mid-to-higher side for MN as a whole (it's a suburban/exurban/rural district).

Like I said, I think it's possible to win here, especially against crazy Bachmann and not some milquetoast Club-for-Growther, but we need a good candidate. Patty Wetterling wasn't that candidate in 2006, and won't be running again. One possibility is Elwyn Tinklenberg. Funny name aside, Tinklenberg is a former Methodist Minister, a bit socially conservative for my taste, but likely in sync with the overall pitch of the district:

Tinklenberg opposes legalized abortion, favors gun rights and supports a federal ban on gay marriage, provided there are some legal protections in place for gay couples. Those views are to the right of many Democrats, but could play well in the socially conservative 6th district.

I don't really feel like selling out on important issues like choice and gay rights to pick up Michelle Bachmann's seat, and like I said, I think it's possible for a non-Blue Dog to win here. That being said, I know Tinklenberg began moving to the left at the end of the primary last year, when he saw Wetterling eclipsing him in popularity among Democrats. I believe he called for an immediate Iraq withdrawal and possibly looking into impeachment proceedings against Bush--heady words, especially back then.

Who knows? Maybe he's had a John Edwards-esque awakening to Democratic Primary electorate reality/doing the right thing in the past 2 years.  In any case, it's going to be a tough fight, and this is probably one of those districts where it wouldn't help to have Hillary at the top of the ballot.


Never separate the life you live from the words you speak. -Sen. Paul Wellstone (Minnesota)
by Max Fletcher on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 01:28:02 AM EST

Re: ehh (none / 0)

I hope when redistricting comes along, that we make this district and Kline's district more competitive and Ramstad's district much more republican. It'd be hard to do, but hey, it can be done.


by KainIIIC on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 01:58:54 AM EST
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Re: ehh (none / 0)

If the 2010 census were taken today, Minnesota would likely lose a seat in the US House of Representatives. If the DFL can hold onto their majorities in the Legislature and recapture the Governor's mansion, it's not hard to see a scenario where Ellison's district expands to take over some more of the West suburbs, including Ramstad's hometown of Wayzata. There's no way Minneapolis would send a Republican to Congress, so he would be redistricted out. Perhaps a more audacious move would be to pit Bachmann against Betty McCollum by expanding the 4th into Stillwater. Another possibility would be to create one large "urban district" by combining St. Paul and Minneapolis, which would be Ellison's. This would force McCollum (who lives in South St. Paul, I believe) into a matchup against Kline. Hopefully this wouldn't happen under a DFL Legislature, as it is nice to have two very liberal districts in the Twin Cities.


Never separate the life you live from the words you speak. -Sen. Paul Wellstone (Minnesota)
by Max Fletcher on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 01:44:40 PM EST
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Re: ehh (none / 0)

He looks good to me. A social conservative Dem is ultimately a lot better than a wingnut. And it's not  this district is Mississippi where only a barely-Dem like Taylor can win. He can afford to be more liberal than that.

Also, when we control the House, these social conservatives are really irrelevant--there is no legislation even brought up restricting abortion etc when we control the place. And if we have a Democrat in the white house, things like stem cells can get signed into law without having to muster 2/3 of the Congress for overrides. I'm willing to put my differences aside with socially conservative Dems in these circumstances.


by need some wood on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 02:34:37 AM EST
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Re: ehh (none / 0)

Tell me if you disagree, but I think it's hard to overstate just how bad a campaign Patty Wetterling ran.  She seemed to bring absolutely nothing to the table other than her sympathetic life story, and she would just randomly attack Bachmann from the right (!) every so often.  Thank God she got out of the Senate race.

I think your cautions are warranted but I'm still eager to see how a real candidate would do in this district.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:23:07 AM EST
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it doesn't seem like anyone's going to challenge.. (none / 0)

roskam in il-06.  the local party is ineptly led, the barbarians are storming the gates there, and roskam benefits from all the peculiar illinois machine advantages that stem from the combine...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 07:14:01 AM EST

MI-09 (none / 0)

MI-09 Knollenberg is only R+0

A base vote analysis of the district supports that it is winnable.


by JordanLFW on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 08:07:22 AM EST

Re: A 2008 House Look (none / 0)

1) Although 41 freshmen Democrats came in in 2006, all 26 on this list are among the 30 who knocked off Republican seats.

2) The GA seats are divided, one as Lean Dem the other as Likely Dem,  That's pushing it.

3) Michael Arcuri's district (NY-24) has changed pretty rapidly since Boehlert's retirement.  The first six months (via registration figures) show an exodus of GOP voters.  I think he's pretty safe and I think Joe Sestak is pretty safe.  For a freshman, Sestak's win was pretty easy.

4) Dennis Moore, again?  At least they didn't include Earl Pomeroy (ND) as Cook did for much of the 2006 cycle.  Boyda is the one at risk in Kansas (and Kansas has changed a lot politically of late).

Overall, Cook shows a neutral race at the start and then moves very slowly towards the actual outcome.  In 2006 every time out of the box for two years there was a subtle (or in a few cases not so subtle) shift towardes the Democrats.  Expect that the Democrats will slowly stack towards "likely" before a few go off the chart.


by David Kowalski on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 08:28:15 AM EST

M & M (none / 0)

25 & 29, Maffei & Massa, (cheap Media Markets) 2 seats for the price of one, there two are winnable especially now that the 29th is completely unified behind Massa with the withdrawl of wealthy David Nachbar.


by howardpark on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 09:46:31 AM EST

Re: M & M (none / 0)


Since the election Massa has posted some grandiose screeds on DKos.  He blames getting bombed with 'Massa will raise your taxes' ads getting to kneejerkers in the district for losing against Kuhl last year.

The comments from people in NY-29 in response are along the lines of "Well, your running Little Napoleon act on the stump was really annoying and your platform is all FDR-to-LBJ era.  Change that and you would've won, there was no love for Kuhl in the district."


by killjoy on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 05:14:32 PM EST
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Re: Error in Ciro's case (3.00 / 1)

The Cook Report shows Ciro Rodriguez in TX-23 as a district that is R +4. That figure must be for the old TX-23 BEFORE the court ordered redistricting last year, and Ciro's subsequent defeat of the (R) incumbent Bonilla. When the court moved more Hispanics into the district to remedy the DeLay team's violation of the Voting Rights Act, and moved four Anglo (R) counties out of it, those new Hispanic voters tilted the new district much more Democratic.

That doesn't mean Ciro is out of the woods. And he was badly burned by the experience of losing a primary to DINO Henry Cuellar, "Bush's favorite House Democrat," after Ciro voted against the Iraq War Authorization. Already one or two Hispanic Repubs are gearing up to challenge Ciro, who still carries the rep of a two-time loser (two primaries before the most recent win) and a rep as a poor campaign organizer and fundraiser.

But I think that when the dust settles next year, our man Ciro will be reelected and back on his way to long service and high seniority.


by Woody on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 09:58:38 AM EST

Re: Error in Ciro's case (none / 0)

Yep.  Bonilla, the rising star of the GOP's TX House delegation, went down by a lopsided 10% margin in a run-off he was never supposed to lose.  And there has been another round of Republican xenophobic hysteria...


by Ramo on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:00:38 AM EST
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Re: Error in Ciro's case (none / 0)

Nope.  The pre-redistricting PVI was even worse than R+4 (around R+11, I think).  R+4 is the correct figure.


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by HellofaSandwich on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 12:57:13 PM EST
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Re: Complexity (none / 0)

O.K., I'll accept that Cook gives the PVI for TX-23 is R+4, as you cite it.

That said, it's further evidence that his PVI is a flawed tool, as ManfromMiddletown has been arguing for a long time.

According to the link below, in the 2004 election, George Bush and the Texas Repub team did well in TX-23, winning with 53.7% of the two-party vote for statewide offices, and Democrats getting only 46.3%.

But back in 2002, with Tony Sanchez running for Governor, the Democrats won 50.7% of the two-party total for all statewide races in TX-23.

In Texas, of course, the PVI ignores the standard rule of thumb that a Presidential candidate gives his party an advantage of 2% or so in his home state.

The 2002 figures, meanwhile, show how a Hispanic candidate can motivate turnout from that part of the Democratic base. And the share of Hispanic voters in TX-23 has surely grown since 2002 and 2004, due to higher birth rates about 20 years ago, immigration, and assimilation (that is, longtime residents gaining citizenship and the right to vote).

Looking only at Cook's PVI, based on the Presidential vote alone, could cause us to overlook opportunities, or worry too much about safe districts.

http://www.lonestarproject.net/files/red 1438.pdf

Not saying that you or any one else in this thread look only at PVI, but I think it sometimes happens. Anyway, don't worry about Ciro's reelection prospects in TX-23.


by Woody on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 12:42:09 PM EST
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Re: Optimistic in Texas (none / 0)

There's been some solid criticism of the Partisan Voting Index. Because it is based on the past two Presidential elections ONLY, it can easily be distorted by Presidential-only factors, like foreign policy issues. Our manfrommiddletown argues that a better index would be compiled from downstate races like SOS, Treasurer, Land Commissioner, whathaveyou, where typically the voters don't know the names of the candidates and don't care. They vote for those offices by the party alone.

In Texas, the PVI is distorted in favor of two-time favorite son George W. Bush. It's a rule of thumb IIRC that when a homestate candidate is at the head of the ticket, the party gets an extra 2% or 3% of the vote in that state. Hometown pride and all that. And having a Veep from the homestate gets about 1% too. Since arguably BOTH Bush and Cheney were from Texas, arguably the hometown factor distorted the results in favor of the Repubs. So in Texas, the PVI could be off by 2% to 4%.

Subtract that error from the PVI and a lot of Texas districts start to look more competitive. So maybe Nick Lampson can hold on to the old Tom DeLay seat after all. And we can surely challenge in other districts, like TX-10.


by Woody on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:22:44 AM EST

Re: A possible pick-up (none / 0)

Back in the spring of 2004, after Ciro Rodriguez had voted against the Iraq War Authorization, he got primaried. Henry Cuellar, "Bush's favorite House Democrat" and the ultimate DINO, took the nomination by 58 votes in a dirty count. Of course, Cuellar was helped by Tom DeLay's mid-decade redistricting, which drew new lines for TX-28 that were very unfriendly to Ciro.

In December 2006, Ciro made a comeback when he won the runoff in a special election in Henry Bonilla's district TX-23, after it had been redrawn to remedy the violation of the Voting Rights Act and it took in Ciro's Southside San Antonio home.

Meanwhile the district Ciro used to represent, where Bush-loving Cuellar still holds the seat, was also redrawn.

TX-28 now includes a large number of voters from "the Valley" -- a densely populated area where the Lower Rio Grande heads into the Gulf of Mexico.

The district used to be dominated by voters in Laredo, Cuellar's base. In past races, he has carried his home county with, like, 80% of the votes. That's a base!

But now there's another couple of adjoining counties that might give 80% of their votes to their own Valley favorite son or daughter. That would make a tight race in the Democratic primary for this majority Hispanic district.

If a candidate emerges to go against Cuellar next March, the netroots should support the challenger. But be prepared for a hard and costly fight. Cuellar is a very smart politician, and as a loyal Repub supporter, money is no object in his campaigns.


by Woody on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:44:33 AM EST

Re: It's Never Too Early For A 2008 Competitive .. (none / 0)

Chris Carney is going to be a one term Rep.  He won't get any netroots backing this time and the DSCC better not spend much money defending his seat.  It can be better spent elsewhere.


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:50:15 AM EST

DCCC (none / 0)

The DSCC only puts money in Senate races...


by Ramo on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:01:33 AM EST
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It's a pretty cheap media market IIRC (none / 0)

and it was drawn to be heavily Republican. I'll bet you the DCCC will spend plenty of money there if they think Carney has an even chance of keeping the seat.


by andgarden on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:17:42 AM EST
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Re: It's Never Too Early For A 2008 Competitive .. (none / 0)

I actually think Carney can hold that seat, although he's probably going to continue to cast some votes we won't like to do it.  Ultimately, he may still get some $$ for me, b/c if he doesn't hold it we're NEVER going to get that seat absent some serious redistricting.  


by HSTruman on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:34:44 AM EST
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MO-06 (none / 0)

Cook has this as a likely Republican retain but the Dems have a great shot with popular former Mayor of Kansas City, Kay Barnes, running.  The district includes all of northwest Missouri but also the northern suburbs of Kansas City where Kay lives and remains very popular.  If she runs a good race, this will be a surprise pick-up.  The DCCC is high on her and this race so, for that reason alone, there is pause.  With some encouragement, she might run a truly populist and progressive race, one that could win.


by Arthurkc on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:01:53 AM EST


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