15th Century Values

We often criticize the Republican Party for being stuck in the 19th Century, while we Democrats are moving forward through the 21st.  On some issues, this is apparently a much too generous assessment of the GOP.  On the issue of sanctioning same-sex unions (most Republicans oppose even the most basic domestic partnership arrangements), it appears the Republicans may be up to 600 years behind the times.

I found this interesting article on Yahoo and though it was interesting enough to post, especially as it was published on the same day as the Larry Craig outing:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/2007 0827/sc_livescience/gayunionssanctionedi nmedievaleurope

Gay Unions Sanctioned in Medieval Europe
Mon Aug 27, 12:00 PM ET

"Civil unions between male couples existed around 600 years ago in medieval Europe, a historian now says.

Historical evidence, including legal documents and gravesites, can be interpreted as supporting the prevalence of homosexual relationships hundreds of years ago, said Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania ...

"Western family structures have been much more varied than many people today seem to realize," Tulchin writes in the September issue of the Journal of Modern History. "And Western legal systems have in the past made provisions for a variety of household structures." ...

The same type of legal contract of the time also could provide the foundation for a variety of non-nuclear households, including arrangements in which two or more biological brothers inherited the family home from their parents and would continue to live together, Tulchin said.

But non-relatives also used the contracts. In cases that involved single, unrelated men, Tulchin argues, these contracts provide "considerable evidence that the affrèrés were using affrèrements to formalize same-sex loving relationships." ...

"I suspect that some of these relationships were sexual, while others may not have been," Tulchin said. "It is impossible to prove either way and probably also somewhat irrelevant to understanding their way of thinking. They loved each other, and the community accepted that."



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I've seen quite a few marriage equality signs go up in Silver Spring. Any idea when the decision will be handed down?


by dblhelix on Tue Aug 28, 2007 at 12:22:10 AM EST

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Not sure, but I understand that it could be very soon ...

I like living in suburban Maryland, where there is a high level of support for marraige equality.
I understand the rest of the country is different, but nevertheless ....


by silver spring on Tue Aug 28, 2007 at 12:58:50 PM EST
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Silver spring,

Could you please email me at markw@uci.edu?

Thanks,
Mark


by markjay on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 06:20:41 PM EST
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I find this extremely hard to believe, and I would need a lot more evidence than just someone "suspecting."  I just don't think that is a realistic assumption in the religious atmosphere back then.  And to imply it was "sanctioned"- it seems this is more wishful thinking interpreting it in the current political context and I'd be wary of that because you have to be careful not to let current feeling influence a revisionism of what was happening- that can backfire especially when you are trying to rewrite history.  It would be wonderful if that was true but I doubt it very much.


by reasonwarrior on Tue Aug 28, 2007 at 04:53:38 AM EST

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The religious atmosphere back then was very different from our current religious atmosphere. We are looking at the start of a period of social upheaval and religious transformation. It's certainly difficult to know how strongly taboo it was and how that taboo was enforced, There is indication that our previous held notions were in fact revisionist in themselves and that previous societies had made accommodations for homosexual relationships that were probably less strict then certain states have now. It's more easy to see when and how the notion of Man as the provider and Wife as the homemaker/mother as the only acceptable family structure was introduced in our current society. That fairly recent notion deteriorated  all other relationship structures and shows that these subjects do change over times. We do know that nobles in the middle ages had a lot of leeway within taboos  and we have quite a few documented homosexual relationships within that group. As for the lower classes it is difficult to know how openly accepted they were, and how much they had to rely on their version of the "committed bachelors living together" ruse. Seeing that the sexual mores of the middle ages were considerably more loose then today it wouldn't surprise me if back then they were more accepted there on average then in most of the world in the current day. Not at the levels of Massachusetts  or LA but still.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Tue Aug 28, 2007 at 08:48:43 AM EST
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