THE CASE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON

Time Is Running Out -- Let's Set The Record Straight

In all likelihood, the winner of the Democratic Party's early presidential primaries will turn out to be the winner of the current battle for the soul of the Democratic Party. And the general expectation seems to be that the earliest primaries
may well decide the final result.

Although the 2006 general elections resulted in the Democrats' gain of a one-vote majority in the Senate --  this gain was more then offset by  the ultimate cost of rewarding  the Republicans' all-time  favorite Democrat, Joe Lieberman, with the post of Chairman of the Senate Committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

These developments stem directly from the 2006 Connecticut Senatorial race between Ned Lamont and Joe Lieberman.  Hopefully,
how the current situation evolved will be fully digested and evaluated by  anti-Iraq War voters  well before the first 2008 Democratic primaries.

Summing Up The Current Situation

Lieberman's appointment  and continuance in his  key post  is an insult to Democrats, in and out of  Washington.

As for the  gain anticipated on the basis of becoming the majority party in the Senate, i.e.,  controlling  the Senate committees -- the Senate Democrats have proved as ineffectual in passing meaningful legislation  as the Republicans.  

Since the New York Times endorsed Ned Lamont in the Connecticut primary -- and even more strongly in the November general election --  it stands to reason that the paper's executives, staff and readers were disappointed in what appeared to be a  devastating  defeat for the anti-Iraq War movement. Today's knowledge of  what actually lay behind that `defeat' casts an entirely new light on its significance.

The day after the November 2006 general election, the Times published an analytical report on the Connecticut race, headlined, "Lamont Didn't Carry Message Beyond Opposition to the War," Sub-head: "Defeat for a candidate who strayed from his defining issue." Unfortunately, these lead-in words indicate that the writer did not have access to the all-important breakdown of the respected and unchallenged exit polls.

Again, please  bear in mind that the Times had endorsed Ned Lamont in the primary and -- even more strongly --  in the November  general election. Here are four sentences that the Times' writer evidently believed synthesized  the results of the (final) general election:

"But in one of the odder twists of this midterm election, Mr. Lamont -- who during his primary battle against  Mr. Lieberman came to personify the anti-Iraq vote -- met a different fate. He not only lost, but he lost in a Democratic state where opposition to the war ran deep. And he was defeated by one of the war's  most prominent defenders, Mr. Lieberman, who ran as an Independent."

The inference to be drawn from these words is that somehow Lamont and his anti-Iraq War supporters, for one reason or another, did not perform as well as the anti-war Democrats in other states. Nothing could be further from  reality:

Lamont got twice as many votes from Democrats, 65%, to Lieberman's 33%.
70% of Lieberman's votes came from Republicans.

National Election Pool*

Democratic Vote: Lieberman 33%  Lamont 65%     Schlesinger  2%
Republican Vote: Lieberman 70%  Lamont  8%     Schlesinger 21%
Independent Vote:Lieberman 54%  Lamont 35%     Schlesinger 10%

*A consortium of ABC News CBS News CNN FOX News NBC News AP; cosponsored by Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International.

On the Sunday morning following the Election (November 12, 2006), Tim Russert and Joe Lieberman discussed the numbers posted above.

From the 11/12/07 Meet The Press Transcript:

"MR.RUSSERT: If you look at the exit polls for Connecticut in your race, it's quite interesting. Here they are; Republicans--70% of Republicans voted for Lieberman; 8% for Democrat Ned Lamont and 21% for the Republican candidate Alan Schlesinger. Democrats; you got 33%. Lamont got 65% -- two out of three Democrats voted against Joe Lieberman."

"SEN. LIEBERMAN: Yeah. . . . . ."

"SEN. LIEBERMAN: If you look at the vote, and this is another reason why, why I'm an Indepen-- why I say I'm an Independent Democrat, a majority of my votes came from independent and Republican voters in Connecticut. But of course I couldn't have won without that Democratic support, either, and I--I'm glad we held a third of it."

Question : Have we missed something here?  Can you define yourself as an `Independent Democrat' because the majority of your votes came from `independent and Republican voters in Connecticut??'

Question : Have the  Clintons, whatever their motivations, gone off the deep end??

Seniority notwithstanding -- Joe Lieberman should never have been given the authority and accompanying bully pulpit of the Chairmanship of Homeland Security and Governmental Matters.

This appointment cannot be rationalized, let alone justified. But it  can -- and should  -- be explained. Going back to the spring of 2006, Hillary and Bill Clinton  announced their  support of Joe Lieberman almost immediately after he had announced his candidacy.

Their enthusiastic support so aroused the anti-Iraq War supporters of Lamont that they brought  pressure on Hillary Clinton to pledge that -- despite her long- term relationship with Lieberman -- she would honor the tradition of the Democratic party, i.e., support `the nominee chosen by Connecticut Democrats in their primary.'

In response to this pressure, on July 4, 2006 Hillary Clinton issued the following statement:

"I've known Joe Lieberman for more than 30 years. I have been pleased to support him in his campaign for reelection and hope that he is our party's nominee. But I want to be clear that I will support the nominee chosen by Connecticut Democrats in their primary. I believe in the Democratic Party , and I believe we must honor the decisions made by Democratic primary voters."

In the month remaining before the August 8 Connecticut primary, the Clintons continued to strongly support Lieberman right up to the primary. Particularly effective was Bill Clinton's very warm,  personalized endorsement at the widely publicized Waterbury fundraiser.

Even though Republicans are prohibited from voting in a Democratic primary, there were no restrictions against their contributing financially to the Lieberman campaign. No figures were available at the time, but it was recognized that Lieberman was receiving a significant number of contributions from Republicans.                              

Specifically, in January 2007,the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP)  --  a highly respected, non-partisan, non-profit group --  made a special compilation of what big  Republican donors (over $200) had contributed to Lieberman  prior to August 8, 2006 and after that date.

First things first :  CRP reported that up to August 8, big Republican donors had contributed  $857,280 to Lieberman. (It's estimated that small donors' contributions, if fiscally and pragmatically available, might have added  4%-6%.)

In retrospect, then, what Ned Lamont faced in the Connecticut primary was a three-term  Democratic incumbent -- with the all-out support of Hillary and Bill Clinton -- and backed by significant Republican funding.

Despite these factors in the primary head-to-head fight for the Democratic nomination, Lamont won with  52% of the vote to Lieberman's 48%.

Moreover, the prospect of the promised Clintons' support actually displacing  the Clintons' all-out opposition -- a Lamont victory in the November general election was a valid expectation. But when push came to shove, Lieberman beat Lamont  --  for two simple reasons: Republican money and Democratic betrayal.

(1) The January 2007 compilation showed that the Republicans doubled  their pre-primary financial backing of Lieberman. They contributed $1,571,040 in the post-primary election. At least as effective, the Republicans  put on a  get-out-the-vote campaign that was unprecedented for a candidate of an
opposing party.

(2) As for the promised Clintons' support for Lamont, taking Hillary first:

Immediately after Lamont's primary victory, Hillary Clinton sent his campaign a $5,000 check. Subsequent to that, in what was described as a private meeting,  the New York Times reported that Hillary Clinton  "offered to help Ned Lamont in his battle to unseat Senator Joseph I. Lieberman by sponsoring a fundraiser, campaigning by his side and lending him one of her top political strategists."

In the same Times' report, "Dan Gerstein, a spokesman for Mr. Lieberman, said that he was skeptical of the level of support that Mrs. Clinton was offering, calling it typical of
 the `partisan playbook.' We will be curious to see if and when Senator Clinton shows up."

Let's concede that Mrs. Clinton `showed up' and made good on the other late August offers. Be that as it may, those offers were  little more than token or tepid support. And that`s including the $5,000 check  --  which is very small potatoes in view of Mrs. Clinton's widely publicized,  multi-million dollar campaign war chest. All told,  the support was  meager when compared to what Mrs. Clinton did for Joe Lieberman leading up to the primary.

Unfortunately, Bill Clinton's non-performance on Ned Lamont's behalf -- from August 8 through  the election date -- was even more shameful.

A diligent internet search for  evidence of Bill Clinton's promised support  for  Ned Lamont turns out to  make the case that Bill Clinton's  `support' remains one of the best kept   secrets in political history. Not a trace of even a single fundraiser for Lamont from August all the way through to the November election.

On the other hand, Larry King interviewed Bill Clinton on September 20, 2006. At the end of the  interview, King asked a question:

From the 9/20/06 Larry King Transcript

KING: Are you supporting Lamont?

CLINTON:  I am but you know, my -- I don't have the same view of this as some people do. My view is it's an unmitigated blessing for the Democrats because Lieberman has said if he wins he's going to vote with us to organize the Senate.

This 'blessing' meant that -- due solely to the backing of the Clintons and the Republicans -- Lieberman  became the Chairman of the Democratic Senate Committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Matters.

In that capacity, he consistently and loudly votes with the Republicans on all bills related to the Iraq War.

On behalf of George W. Bush & Associates,  

THANK YOU, BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON



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the logic here makes no sense ... (none / 0)

"Although the 2006 general elections resulted in the Democrats' gain of a one-vote majority in the Senate --  this gain was more then offset by  the ultimate cost of rewarding  the Republicans' all-time  favorite Democrat, Joe Lieberman, with the post of Chairman of the Senate Committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs."

"more than offset" -- so according to this logic it's better to have the entire Senate and every single committee under Republican control than to have just one committee under (effective) Republican control -- this just makes NO SENSE !


by silver spring on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 01:53:10 PM EST

this diary is not well-written (none / 0)

but the fact remains that no one did more to rescue Joe Lieberman last year than Bill Clinton. And obviously, he would not have gone against Hillary's wishes to go in there and save Lieberman's ass.

It showed a lack of principle as well as poor judgment on the part of the Clintons.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 05:26:07 PM EST
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Re: THE CASE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON (none / 0)

Just read the end:

On behalf of George W. Bush & Associates,  

THANK YOU, BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON

Enough to know right away that this diary is nonsense.  


by georgep on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 02:24:51 PM EST

Re: THE CASE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON (none / 0)

Joe Lieberman didn't win because of the Clinton's he won because he got like 70% of the Republican vote. Yeah I'm sure the Clinton's were responsible for that right?

Anyways pretty much all of the democratic leadership supported Lieberman as a way of ensuring he would still cacucus with the democrats ensuring that we gained control of the senate.

This is a pretty transparent diary.


by world dictator on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 02:52:25 PM EST

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Lamont should have accepted all the help Hillary offered.  He didn't.  She gave him a fundraiser in New York and would have done much more but when Lamont was asked by the press how he felt about Hillary's offer of support he said (and I paraphrase) "I don't think I am going to need out-of-state support".  I will find the link if I can.

Hillary did her best for Lamont.  She offered him Howard Wolfson to help with strategy.  She told Lamont it was in Bush and Rove's interest to have him lose to Lieberman.  

Another piece of shit diary based on malevolence.


by samueldem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 04:10:51 PM EST

she did her best for Lamont? (none / 0)

No, sorry, the best she could have done for Lamont was to ask Bill not to go in and save Lieberman's ass before the primary. That stopped the slide for Joe and helped him make it close in the primary. It also reassured some CT Dems that Joe was a good Democrat.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 05:27:29 PM EST
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Re: THE CASE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON (none / 0)

The Dem who probably let Lamont down the most was Barack Obama.  Both Wesley Clark and John Edwards campaigned with Lamont and Lamont featured both of them on his website.  Obama did next to nothing.

Stop bashing Hillary when it is completely undeserved.


by samueldem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 04:13:54 PM EST

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This is a case against all Democrats who did not come to Connecticut to support the only Democratic running for Senate.  I live in Ct.  Nobody showed up.  Had Ned Lamont not run on an Anti -war platform.  Maybe as is still sad to say true today.  The main stream Democrats did not give their support.  Including the now "anti war" candidate Barack.  I think someone should look closer into Barack association with Lieberman.  Barack came here for Joe.  Wait Dennis Krucinch came and Chris Dodd immediately embraced Lamont's primary win.  Chris Dodd tried very hard to reunite the democrats here.  Any of the bloggers who worked very hard on Ned behave can verify these facts.


by orion1 on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 04:57:26 PM EST

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John Edwards came to CT to spend a day campaigning with Lamont. Obama sent a fund raising letter and email for Lamont. General Wesley Clark campaigned for Lamont, and cut an ad for Lamont, as did Dodd.

Hillary didn't do anything for Lamont. Bill campaigned for Lieberman, as did Boxer, and others who now have egg on their faces for doing so. Not only did they sell out the party, they sold out the country.

Hillary did send her chief goon and thug Howard Wolfson into Lamont camp, but he was probably there to spy for Lieberman anyway, since Joe and Hill were BFF's back in Yale Law School.

Those are the facts.


by LoganGawain on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 05:23:29 PM EST
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The Facts?? (3.00 / 1)

I just checked Wikopedia.  Senator Clinton graduated from Yale Law School in 1973, while Lieberman graduated in 1967. Since law schol is only 3 years, that means that by the time she got there, he was long gone.  
Since you got that "fact wrong", can we trust your other "facts"?  

by nascardem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 05:56:46 PM EST
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Re: The Facts?? (none / 0)

Yhen she proceeded to flunk the DC bar exam.


by BDM on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:44:00 PM EST
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uncalled for (none / 0)

A lot of smart people have to take the bar exam more than once. Come on.


John McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me."
by desmoinesdem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 08:19:37 PM EST
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She she proceeded to flunk the DC bar exam. (none / 0)

And she turned me into a newt! therefore... She is a witch!!

Burn her! Burn her!


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 10:21:10 PM EST
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"Hillary did send her chief goon and thug Howard Wolfson into Lamont camp, but he was probably there to spy for Lieberman anyway, since Joe and Hill were BFF's back in Yale Law School."

"probably there to spy for Lieberman"

"Those are the facts"

WOW how convincing ....


by silver spring on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:52:33 PM EST
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Re: THE CASE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON (3.00 / 1)

Bill and Hillary didn't singlehandedly safe Lamont! That makes them just like Lieberman!

I use bold to make up for my complete lack anything remotely approaching an argument.

The Clinton behaved as normal regular democrats! that makes them evil and BUSH clones! see how making this BOLD helps my statement!

...

...

Seriously this is the silliest version of the Dolchstoßlegende I've encountered. The Lamont loss was a sad day for most of us here, but don't try to use that for the unfounded smearing of a couple of democrats who had nothing to do with that loss.

They were for the incumbent democrat during the primaries, and they were for the Democrat challenging the seat after the primaries. Hillary gave both time and the maximum of money allowed to the Lamont campaign. How she could have sunk or saved his campaign is beyond me as well as beyond everybody else still grounded in reality. Next time go less for the hyperbole, and more for actual facts.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 06:59:24 PM EST

Lamont took a week off, and fell asleep (none / 0)

Futhermore, Hillary isn't the only Democrat who took the stance she did, re: Lieberman.  

YOu really need to come to grips here.  It is the ecact reason why trying to topple Liebmeran was a bad idea.  If Lieberman bolted ot the GOP we don't have the Senate today.


by dpANDREWS on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:16:12 PM EST

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I am disappointed there are no "Hillary Clinton Is The Anti-Christ" diaries today.


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by robliberal on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:49:58 PM EST

They're over at dkos. (none / 0)


by bookgrl on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:56:32 PM EST
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she was called (none / 0)

the "anti-christ" at the iowa fair as reported in the Washintonpost.


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 08:01:47 PM EST
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The thing is, the Hillary haters don't HAVE anything on Hillary.  Every damned diary they start gets debunked by those who are informed and have done their homework.  Hillary helped Lamont and offered to do "anything she could" but Lamont didn't take her up on it.  That was HIS damned problem.  And he should have stuck around and done some important t.v. interviews immediately following his victory.  He didn't.  He went on vacation.  Meanwhile, Lieberman was on all the talk shows acting like HE was the victor.

Trying to blame the Clintons for Ned's defeat is insidious.  In fact, it's worse - it's fucking pathetic.


by samueldem on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 09:03:14 PM EST

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I agree that Clinton should have helped Lamont, but Lamont lost the race for Lamont. I am also not certain what this proves? I don't get your thesis in other words. Are you saying that the Clinton's will not help Democrats? Or that they should have helped Lamont, and that this is the greater way in which they demonstrate they won't help Democrats? I think there are better ways to make this argument than this. For example, the real reason they can't help is not because they are bad Democrats, asyou seem to imply, but tha they have been fixed on their own ambition mor ethan building the party.


by bruh21 on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 10:33:51 PM EST

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Time has already run out for nonsense accusations like this- is this the best you can do? I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.


by reasonwarrior on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 02:15:32 AM EST


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