[UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama?

Our vanity candidate was given a lesson of being polite in NH when facing one of his own backers. AP is reporting:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/0 8/obama_tries_smallgroup_politic.php

The Illinois senator sounded a familiar theme, that he is an outsider to Washington and to politics as usual.

But Maggie North of Claremont told him he risks becoming part of the usual political scene if he keeps being drawn into well-publicized disputes with rivals. He and chief rival Hillary Rodham Clinton have jabbed at each other over foreign policy, the war on terrorism and the use of nuclear weapons.

"You can be it," she said. "But you've got to stop. Excuse me for being blunt, you've got to stop getting involved in the way people are fighting each other, chewing you up a little more."

"That's what you do when you run for president," Obama responded, getting a laugh.

North, who is considering an Obama endorsement and backed Howard Dean in 2004, praised Obama as someone fresh, but she said she worried that he was hurting himself.

Obama said infighting among the candidates is part of the process.

"Some of that's OK, it thickens your skin. ... Putting you through the paces like that is part of the hazing that's required for the job," he said.

North wasn't persuaded.
"What happens when you engage in that is you become like everybody else," she said.

AP continues the following...


Obama repeated his criticism of lobbyists, calling them the enemy and saying their donations are corrupt.

"If they're spending a billion dollars on lobbying over 10 years, they're averaging $100 million a year _ that carries weight in Washington. The congressmen will deny it, but they're not spending it just to provide good information," he said.

While Obama doesn't accept money directly from federal lobbyists, he is not above benefiting from the broader lobbying community. He accepts money from firms that have lobbying operations and has tapped the networks of lobbyists' friends and co-workers. Obama, a former state senator from Illinois, has long accepted money from state lobbyists. One of them, Concord, N.H., lobbyist Jim Demers, attended an Obama event in Keene later and is a top adviser to the campaign.

GQ has a profile of our vanity candidate Obama,
http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id =content_5841
the following paragraph verifies Obama is nothing but a vanity candidate:



How, then, to close the Gap? In the press, an idea was starting to gel that Obama was all style and no substance.
John Edwards was defining his campaign by its big ideas (universal health insurance, withdrawal from Iraq, a new war against poverty), and Hillary was defining hers by her mastery of policy and, as she repeatedly says, how she is "ready" to be president. Obama's stump speeches, however, highlighted a vague message of hope. At the February meeting of the Democratic National Committee, a venue that attracted all of the presidential candidates and most of the Washington, D.C., press corps, Obama gave a speech in which he said, "There are those who don't believe in talking about hope. They say, `Well, we want specifics, we want details, and we want white papers. We want plans.' We've had a lot of plans, Democrats. What we've had is a shortage of hope." Afterwards, the press criticized the speech as yet more feel-good ambiguity. Obama, rather than having a knee-jerk response to the negative reaction and changing his tack, instead later added to his regular stump speech a mocking reference to reporters who dismiss him as nothing more than a "hopemonger."

What the press didn't know is that Obama's resistance to becoming a candidate of white papers had a strategic logic. As his pollsters had clearly divined, if the campaign hinged on who had the best health care plan or who better understood the minutiae of tax policy, then Obama was toast. That was the contest Hillary was hoping to have. ...


I love this!


As his pollsters had clearly divined, if the campaign hinged on who had the best health care plan or who better understood the minutiae of tax policy, then Obama was toast.


In other word, obama's handlers realized that if ordinary voters peel off his 'hope' facade and get into details, he is toast. A complete empty suit, indeed.

Newskweek has an excellent piece on Obama's Arugula moment. He is proved to be not just a vanity candidate, but also an elitist who has no touch with middle-class America...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226452/sit e/newsweek/


On a sunlit Friday afternoon in July, Barack Obama stopped by Beverly Van Fossen's farm in Adel, Iowa, to speak about "rural issues." It was standard Hawkeye State stumping--until the senator took a stab at sympathizing with farmers whose crop prices have stagnated. "Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?" he asked. Unfortunately, Adel isn't exactly arugula country. "Someone near me whispered, 'What's arugula?' " says Van Fossen, 74. " 'You can't find that in Iowa'." Same goes for Whole Foods. The closest locations, reported The New York Times that evening, are in Omaha, Neb.; Kansas City, Kans., and Minneapolis. Whoops. Right-wing bloggers pounced. The dishy Wonkette called Obama a "super rich Ivy League elitist." Peter Feld, a former Michael Dukakis staffer, wrote on Powers-Point.com that a similar slip by his ex-boss--the suggestion that Iowans grow "Belgian endive"--surfaced repeatedly in 1988 attack ads. C'est la vie politique.

While Obama continues his vanity tour powered by money provided by elitists (don't believe for a minute that most of his money is from selling $5 T-shirt), Hillary is campaigning hard in rural Nevada, and drew a great crowd of 2,500 people.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/storie s/nevada/2007/aug/13/081310884.html


Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton relied on an anti-Washington message to appeal to rural voters Monday in her first venture into the Nevada desert.

"We're going to end all these no-bid contracts, we're going to make things more transparent, we're going to get rid of all these cronies that came to Washington to work in the Bush administration," Clinton told a group of raucous supporters at a town hall-style rally. "To do all this, it's going to take reforming Washington."

Clinton spoke to crowd of about 2,500 at a roller-skating rink in this historically conservative pocket 60 miles west of Las Vegas.

Afterward, Patricia Wosic, a a single mother, described her support for Clinton as support for candidate who will advocate for women. "It's about time we have a woman representing this country. I can't even afford to get my daughter dental (insurance) because the men in this country don't care about single moms," the 44-year-old mail carrier said.

The senator was scheduled to spend her evening with a union nurse at a Las Vegas hospital. The event is part of the Service Employees International Union program intended to give candidates a glimpse of the daily lives of its members.

American Research Group just released two national polls. http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/ Democratic primaries
August (July) Clinton 36 (38) Obama 21 (25) Edwards 16 (16) Richardson 7 (7)
This is the lowest percentage Obama has registered in this poll since March. Edwards is only 5 points behind according to ARG. On the GOP side:
August (July) Guliani 27 (30) Romney 16 (10) Thompson 16 (17) McCain 13 (14) Huckabee 3 (1)
Significant movement on the GOP side, this is the first national poll showing Romney pulling into 2nd place. Remember this is an ARG poll, well, love it or hate it... LOL.

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Re: Vanity candidate (none / 0)

Obama supporters move on - this diary is BS.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:37:11 PM EST

Re: Vanity candidate (none / 0)

As is the original poster... ah I wish I could meet the person who is this much of a jackass to post diaries like this... Vanity tour?  What a douche!


by yitbos96bb on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:22:18 AM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded by his own (none / 0)

Great work , looks like his campaign is faltering or is it the brilliant campaign Hillary is waging. Maybe he can right the ship , but who knows.

His campaign actually tried to emphasize style over substance and his supporters think that won't show to the public. I think that might have undermined his candidacy at the end of the day. The next election is about competence and leadership , not style , the emphasis on style initially at the start of the campaign might have been a mistake that he won't be able to recover from.

With all the big problems in the world today I just do not see how the Dems will vote for Obama with his ready to lead/experience/strong leadership numbers that low. Thats just my opinion.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:38:12 PM EST

Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded by his own (none / 0)

No, read the article and I read several.

The supporter stated that she did not like the "bickering" between the candidates.  That was the point.  Read the whole article.


by iamready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:43:43 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded by his own (none / 0)

Also, lori, this is still early.

Do you know how many people don't know about these numbers or aren't paying attention?  We are talking about people still in the double digit as undecided here.

The Democrats "especially the early states" will not be waivered by these numbers.  And you see this in the early state polling.

Anyway, to oust Obama, stop the money coming in.  I don't think Clinton can do that, in fact, any campaign would love his rolodex, right now.


by iamready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:45:52 PM EST
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Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

I loved that Mark Penn used the word "arugula" three times in a ten minute interview with Newsweek for the Obama piece! Somehow, I bet he starts using "GQ" a few times, too.

Do you think the woman going after Obama in New Hampshire for attacking Democrats was a Clinton plant?


by hwc on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:56:48 PM EST

Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Could be, but aren't plants everywhere?  And they should be to see how these candidates "react".  You see what happened with Mitt Romney.  The woman wrote a diary on Daily Kos, who ASKED HIM THE QUESTION about his sons not serving in the miliary.  And we know the astounding answer he gave, "they are serving, helping me become President".  That made several news cycles and that is "TV ad material" if ever there was not one!!


by iamready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 08:59:45 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Maybe, who knows.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:02:24 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Areyouready will you support Obama IF HE IS THE NOMINEE?


by BDM on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:31:26 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

oh no way does "areyouready" support anyone that is not named Hillary Clinton. I enjoy reading areyouready's unabashed partisan Clinton rhetoric/posts. I hope for his/her sake that Hillary wins the nomination, because if Obama or Edwards takes it, I am going to come down bloody hard on areyouready, I've been saving his/her posts for the last month. I'm waiting until after the nominee is determined (and it won't be Hillary) to unleash


by rapcetera on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:04:00 PM EST
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Rather eat ground glass (none / 0)

than have HRC as the candidate.  At this time, the last thing we need is another establishment, corporate controlled WH.  It is time to put the DLC centrists in this party out to pasture and that absolutely means the Clintons.


Follow the money
by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:45:48 AM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

No way!  Sounds more like a disappointed true believer.


by bookgrl on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:30:39 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Vanity Candidate?  Seriously, you actually wrote an intelligent piece today... to make such a douchebag comment is ridiculous and just kills your credibility.  

And for the record, a vanity candidate would be described as candidate who continues to run despite not having any shot at all... Nader in 2000 and 2004, Kucinich in 2004 and 2008... they are vanity candidacies.  


by yitbos96bb on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:25:14 AM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Expect Edwards to be pissed that he isn't on the cover of GQ too.


by DoIT on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 10:08:45 AM EST
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Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Great diary areyouready. I like Obama personally, but he does not have any substance. Reading the article above shows his lack of common sense. Touting arugula in the heartland was just freakin' stupid. I almost feel sorry for him.


by lonnette33 on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:26:16 PM EST

Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Obama is a nice person, but I'm surprised when people say he struggled at any point in his life.  I can't see it.  From what I've learned of his history, it seems he is from a middle to upper middle class background, which is totally fine, but again, many people have described him as having a life story that included economic struggles.  This arugla moment makes it almost impossible for me to believe this was ever the case.  To complain about the price of "arugula" at "Wholefoods"?  People who buy arugula and shop at Wholefoods typically don't shop on price.


by bookgrl on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:36:35 PM EST
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He has had similar gaffes (none / 0)

When he told an audience any of them cold affords to donate 5 bucks to him.  Tell that to the working poor who can buy meds or school supplies and take the long way to work to save on tolls.

Heck, take the recent debate when he said all candidates could afford to work without a salary.  Biden was honest and said he couldn't.  I guess Joe should have married a successful lawyer like Obama.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:47:39 PM EST
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Re: He has had similar gaffes (none / 0)

I believe polls do not lie. Poll after poll shows Obama's strength is among elites, he is an elite by heart.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:53:34 PM EST
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Re: He has had similar gaffes (none / 0)

and Hillary isn't? lol!!


by rapcetera on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:06:01 PM EST
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Elitist is the Clintons middle name. n/t (none / 0)


Follow the money
by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:46:35 AM EST
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Re: He has had similar gaffes (none / 0)

... that would be CAN'T buy meds or school supplies

Just to clarify


by dpANDREWS on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:56:24 PM EST
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Re: He has had similar gaffes (none / 0)

Mhmm, yes.  The "pony up, no one is so poor they cannot afford $5, $10, $20" moment as though the primary campaign were a kegger.  Like I said, I like Obama, and I think the idea that he came from an economically challenged background was basically urban legend, and not soemthing he promoted.  However, because I was told by many supporters that this was part of his biography, the arugula type moments stick out for me.


by bookgrl on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:06:37 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Well, read his books.  And if he came from all that, why is it he just paid off his student loans?  He stated that in a speech not long ago.  This is a man who was abandon by his father, whose mother did struggle and died early.  Please, do not make statements unless you know the actual facts.  Just like someone on this board stated Clinton grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth.  She did not.  I read her book.  She came from a disciplined, midwest family and had to work for everything she got.

Let's stop the rumors.


by iamready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:09:04 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

See, I'm not starting any rumors.  I just read his wiki page, and it doesn't suggest he came from a background that included economic struggle.  In fact it says of his biography:
"In the memoir, Obama describes his experiences growing up in his mother's American middle class family".  
His mother died young, and that is horrible, but that isn't the type of struggle I was referring to.
by bookgrl on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:21:31 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

I am not going to read Obama's books in which he freely admitted that he made shit up to make himself look better. I remember watching him in an interview where someone asked him a question about himself and his response was that his books told a better tale than he could. Yeah, when you make shit up I guess they do.


by DoIT on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 10:14:37 AM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

I am somehow reminded of the movie The Jerk starring Steve Martin. The opening line: I was born a poor black child.


by DoIT on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 10:16:56 AM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

To complain about the price of "arugula" at "Wholefoods"?  People who buy arugula and shop at Wholefoods typically don't shop on price.

Exactly bookgril. LOL.


by lonnette33 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:44:14 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

oops I mean bookgrl


by lonnette33 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:44:34 PM EST
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Don't get him going about brie (none / 0)

Its through the roof man!  How can people feed their childen at these prices?

Let them eat cake!

... All in good fun.  Really.

I like Obama.  I just think he is inexperienced and would be a trainwreck as a candidate.  He isn't ready to face a tough Republican yet.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:00:51 PM EST
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Re: Vanity candidate Obama got scolded (none / 0)

Oh Please!  The idea that Obama is all style and no substance is pure rubbish, especially coming from folks who do nothing but post poll diaries and NEVER talk about anything of substance policywise from their candidate.  Obama has put out plans on healthcare, urban poverty, foreign policy and terrorism.  We are getting a sense of of his vision and what he wants to do as president.  Edwards and Richardson have put forth their vision of what they would like to do as well.  What has Clinton put out there? "I'm in it to win it", "I'm your girl"?  We don't have any idea of what she wants to do because "you shouldn't always say what you're thinking".  If anything she is the least substantial candidate out there in the Democratic field.


"In the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it." Barack Obama
by whitbreadale on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:43:20 PM EST
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Long - I'll sum it up in 3 words (none / 0)

Obama, not different.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:39:21 PM EST

Re: Long - I'll sum it up in 3 words (none / 0)

yay!!! clap for yourself for figuring that out...


by rapcetera on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:06:41 PM EST
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Re: Vanity (none / 0)

People are not going to nominate him after the last couple of weeks.  It has become clear he does not know what he is doing - that he has been a lot of "talk" and that's it.  The back-tracking, the mud-slinging, the deceptions, he's not a "change," it's just the same old politics as usual.


by reasonwarrior on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:44:29 PM EST

I said it early and often (none / 0)

You can't get by with a speech.  You have to have some substance.  It also helps if you know how to run a decent campaign.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 09:57:50 PM EST
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Re: I said it early and often (none / 0)

wow, you mean his campaign is floundering? news to me.....


by rapcetera on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:07:26 PM EST
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Look at the numbers (none / 0)

He tied Clinton back in the spring and has since given ground.  He isn't leading in an early state unless you cherry pick one or two polls.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:20:55 AM EST
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Re: Look at the numbers (none / 0)

lets talk about polls in January, my friend..


by rapcetera on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:37:30 AM EST
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Polls mean something (none / 0)

That is why campaigns spend 100s of thousands of dollars on them.  That is why media outlets spend big bucks to do them.  That is why candidates trailing by 8 on election eve very very seldom win.

So you can stick you head in the sand and rag on the polls but that is silly.

Now if you wanted to tell me what Obama was going to do between now and January to move up in the polls that would be another story.   That would be constructive.


by dpANDREWS on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:19:30 AM EST
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Re: Look at the numbers (none / 0)

one more thing, since were discussing polls - he and hillary were never tied....


by rapcetera on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:38:08 AM EST
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wikipedia (none / 0)

Ha, ha, it's already on wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arugula

Politics
Recently, U.S. Presidential Candidate Senator Barack Obama used the word while in Iowa, saying, "Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?" Unfortunately for him, the blue collar workers did not know what it was. Incidentally, the Clinton campaign picked this up and wants to portray Obama as a member of the elite who does not know what a large percentage of the population faces.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:00:27 PM EST

Re: arugula (3.00 / 2)

Talk about making something out of nothing.  I live in Minnesota, my grandparents grew up on family farms, and my grandparents, my aunts and uncles, my parents all garden.  They know what arugula is and they even grow it.  None of them are super rich or "elitists"

I think someone who says lobbyists just represent everyday people and that candidates for President shouldn't tell the American people how they would use U.S. forces is a little more out of touch.


by WellstoneDem on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:30:27 PM EST

Re: OBAMA HIT DIARY (none / 0)

Areyouready constantly puts up hit diary's on Obama. He has stated that he hates Obama and will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

Nothing new from Areyouready. I am not sure he s a democrat.


by BDM on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:36:16 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA HIT DIARY (none / 0)

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Hillary will never be President.

People don't like Hillary Clinton. Inside and Outside. Ask the First Lady of Argentina (who is also running for President and unlike Hillary, is very popular)


by win on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 10:41:15 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA HIT DIARY (none / 0)

What clinton's approval rating about democrats?


by world dictator on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:41:50 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA HIT DIARY (none / 0)

areyouready once stated that he/she would vote for Giuliani if Clinton did not get the nomination. can't wait for January....


by rapcetera on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:09:16 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA HIT DIARY (none / 0)

Giuliani = Clinton...  If areyouready thinks Giuliani is a good second choice, it is no surprise that they would like a moderate Republican like HRC to take over the Democratic Party.  If HRC gets the nomination, I'll stay freakin home. I went from anybody but Bush to anybody but Hillary.


Follow the money
by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:50:09 AM EST
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Re: [UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama (none / 0)

Your repeated use of the word "vanity" is extremely tiresome.  Five times in this diary alone.  Just saying it doesn't make it so.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:17:58 AM EST

Re: [UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama (3.00 / 2)

I agree, Steve. areyouready and her/his cohorts - with a couple of exceptions - are incapable of writing anything that doesn't demean Obama. Guess they must be pretty scared of him to have to resort to such childish behavior. If I were as big of a fan of Hillary as they purport to be, I'd be writing pieces describing why my candidate is the best....not picking on some naive, elitist vanity candidate. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?


by royce on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:04 AM EST
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ARG what? (none / 0)

It's suspected that he/she is a Republican troll.  Apparentlys omeone with the same name got banned from DKos for it.  The spin is too ridiculous to be a serious Hillary supporter.  I have to agree with the speculation that it's a Repub troll.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:24:35 AM EST
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Re: [UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama (none / 0)

I don't think your criticism is entirely accurate.  Sometimes he demeans Edwards, too.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:37:38 AM EST
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Re: [UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama (none / 0)

You're right; I should have included that.


by royce on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:49:55 AM EST
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areyouready closing in on reality? No. (none / 0)

Love the spin you put on your horrible poll reporting.  Edwards had no movement in the poll.  Seriously


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:10:18 AM EST

Load of crap (none / 0)

After 8 years of the stupidest president in U.S history, I don't think it's bad to elect someone who knows what arugula is.

I live in a middle class neighborhood, and I've grown arugula in my backyard garden before, does this make me an 'elitist'?


by Adam T on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:23:49 AM EST

Re: [UPDATE] ARG poll: Edwards closing in on Obama (none / 0)

I support Edwards at this time because of the specifics he has laid out...however,;
I do remember 2004 and probably...like most here..when he finished..said "wow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCLomrqI N8&mode=related&search=


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud" ...Arlo Guthrie
by DenverD on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:16:39 AM EST


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