Clinton Speaks, Homeowners Mourn - revised

Revised slightly in an attempt to keep the focus of the message on point. Original posted at www.BlueHampshire.com.

I'm "the other guy" that Senator Clinton spoke about during the first minute and a half of her speech in Derry, NH Tuesday, August 8th.

I wasn't at all impressed with Senator Clinton's solutions for the current foreclosure issues that the country is facing. Frankly, I've heard the majority of what she suggested in previous years. To be honest, I was extremely surprised that I was invited to meet with Senator Clinton given the fact that she has taken PAC money from the majority of entities that I have named as defendants in a $13.5 million civil RICO action as a result of an illegal foreclosure that was attempted on my home for the last six years. Three of the entities (PMI Group, Merrill Lynch, LaSalle Bank) have already been named as defendants, a fourth entity (CSFB) to be named shortly, and the fifth (Fairbanks Capital/Select Portfolio Servicing) previously owned by PMI and purchased from them in '05 by CSFB.

The reason for this litigation is due to a now six year battle against an illegal foreclosure, caused in turn, by mortgage servicing fraud which has little to do with predatory lending. I am one of more than 280,000 Federal Trade Commission-certified victims of Fairbanks Capital Corp. n/k/a Select Portfolio Servicing Inc. as certified in USA/Curry v. Fairbanks. Predatory lending is an origination issue while Mortgage Servicing Fraud is a securitization issue. If Senator Clinton or the staff with whom I met and spoke had any clue as to what we were describing they never gave any indication.

We were contacted out of the blue by someone from Senator Clinton's campaign virtually begging us to attend the Senator's predatory lending policy event. This was originally slated to take place the previous Friday but the Senator apparently had to return to Washington for votes that day. This gave the Clinton campaign the weekend to ask if my fiancée, Jenna, would be willing to not only attend the event with me and speak to Senator Clinton privately before the even but also if Jenna would be willing to introduce the Senator on stage that day. And before she could give the Clinton campaign an answer, telephone calls and e-mails began coming in explaining that when we do speak with Senator Clinton privately, we should focus on how this situation has affected our lives as opposed to the actual issue itself which, as previously mentioned, has absolutely zero to do with predatory lending. The Clinton staffer we had been in contact with actually made it a point to suggest to Jenna that she speak about how we had postponed our wedding because of the illegal foreclosure that we had been fighting. Now, taken individually, each of these "suggestions" seems fairly innocuous. But when strung together, they make for a rather subtle but effective attempt to steer our conversation with Senator Clinton away from the actual important issue of mortgage servicing fraud which we both were hoping to have and towards what would rapidly deteriorate into a whining, sympathy sucking, "poor me" yetch in front of not only a United States Senator but several hundred of our assumed peers.

I have to take a minute here and explain that I can only assume that the members of the audience were our peers as the population of the Ernest P. Barka gymnasium that morning far exceeded the population of the pristine little McMansion neighborhood that we had to drive through in order to get to the event to meet with Senator Clinton to discuss our foreclosure issues and listen to her announce her predatory lending policy. There could not possibly have been a single property on Eastgate Rd. with a fair market value of less than $375,000. And yet, there we were listening to Senator Clinton pitch her predatory lending policy. Walking out of the school after the event all I could think of as I looked down Eastgate Rd. was that there was little or no evidence of predatory lending or mortgage servicing fraud happening there.

Now, Jenna, being the incredibly intelligent woman that she is, figured out long before I did that "strange things were afoot at the Circle-K". She had already fast-forwarded through the phone calls and emails and suggestions and came to the important plot point that the Clinton campaign didn't care if I showed up at the event at all. They wanted Jenna to be the "little person" that Senator Clinton had chosen to rescue. I chose not to catch up with the program until after Jenna declined to accept the "honor" 48 hours before the event due to a migraine. This may sound a bit odd until you realize that Jenna has suffered two head injuries in the last 7 years and a migraine for her can be a week long event complete with facial ticking and/or partial paralysis and/or minor speech impairment. Had that set in, she would have had no choice but to withdraw from her role as introducer on the morning of the event potentially leaving the Senator's people in a difficult position. Being the professional that she is, Jenna did not want to risk harming the event and chose to decline with enough time for the campaign to find someone else to handle the introduction. As she wasn't feeling well enough to do so herself, Jenna asked if I would convey her decision to the Clinton campaign. This is where I caught on.

Being the sometimes-illogical thinker that I am, I assumed that the Clinton campaign wanted to focus on a story that highlighted the problems with the mortgage industry and guessed that the natural progression from Jenna would have been for the campaign to ask me if I would be willing to introduce Senator Clinton. Wrong. It turned out that the next candidate was Kristi Schofield, the mother of the family also meeting with the Senator that morning to discuss her impending foreclosure and eviction at the hands of Ameriquest and Deutsche Bank. While listening to Kristi's introduction, I couldn't help but notice that it sounded all to close to the whining, sympathy sucking, "poor me" yetch in front of not only a United States Senator but several hundred of her assumed peers that Jenna had felt she had been asked to make.

While I would never be so bold as to ask Kristi to disclose such information, judging by what she said in her introduction of the Senator, I can only assume that she had received similar instructions from campaign staff to relate not what the factual issues were that led her family into foreclosure but to speak of the extraneous, emotion driven thoughts and actions that occur when one is faced with losing their home regardless of the legality of the foreclosure. I honestly would not be at all surprised if certain language that Kristi had used turned out to be suggested by someone other than herself. Please don't misinterpret this as resentment, judgment or envy towards Kristi Schofield because it is not. It was simply these subtleties and similarities in what we were told and what Kristi said that led me to believe that the Clinton campaign is more interested in gender than in issues. Very few Mortgage Servicing Fraud victims get an opportunity to have an audience with a United States Senator. That being the case, both Jenna and I felt that we had a responsibility to MSF victims around the country to discuss the issues surrounding Mortgage Servicing Fraud with Senator Clinton as opposed to wasting the opportunity by focusing on our personal sorrows. To bring anything less to the Senator's attention would be disrespectful of us when we know from experience and daily contact that there are hundreds of thousands of other families suffering the same fate as us.

The event itself was fairly unspectacular - at least for us. Since Jenna and I have been dealing with foreclosure issues since 2002 we have heard much of what politicians have promised over the years. And, in listening to politicians over the years, we've learned that you have to listen not only to what they say - but what they do not say. The majority of Senator Clinton's predatory lending policy is nothing more than previously proposed campaign and/or legislative ideas with a new coat of wax on them. There really was nothing that we felt that we could take heart in that pointed to any hope for homeowners at any point in the future - regardless of whether Senator Clinton wins first the party nomination and then the White House. Involving the Federal government in the national foreclosure crisis is like throwing a drowning man a ukulele - it's useless. The reason that I feel that I can make that statement is that I have personally contacted the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Office of the Comptroller of Currency, HUD, the Federal Trade Commission - whom I have been told by FTC Special Counsel Allison Brown, personally, will not take action on behalf of an individual borrower - Secret Service and FBI Financial Crimes divisions, the House Financial Committee, NH Senator Judd Gregg, NH Senator John Sununu AND former Congressman Jeb Bradley. If I had asked any more federal government individuals or entities I might have started getting depressed. Oh wait, I WAS diagnosed with anxiety and depression - too late.

Following the event was just as interesting. Media swarmed. People milled and jockeyed for Senatorial autographs, some found Ms. Schofield and expressed their sympathies or asked for interviews. Since my only mention during the entire even came within roughly the first minute and a half of Senator Clinton's speech I had to introduce myself to the media. I was lucky to have gotten the one interview that I did which ended up not airing anyway. Fortunately, I wasn't at all surprised as I have been informed by WMUR TV that the two minutes that Karen Anderson devoted to Fairbanks Capital Corp. and mortgage servicing fraud roughly four years ago was enough coverage and there was no longer anything newsworthy to report. Meanwhile, Jenna rapidly came to the conclusion that the Senator's speech, with regard to predatory lending, was nothing more than two day old leftovers and that no one was going to look at "the 27 8x10 color glossy photographs with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one".

And at that point, with the realization that Senator Clinton was apparently going to be just one more federal entity that neither understood nor wanted to take the time necessary to understand the seriousness of mortgage servicing fraud, Jenna began to crumble. It was only for a brief moment, but, timing being what it is it is, at that same moment the campaign staffer we had been working with came back through in what felt to me like an attempt to isolate us from the media. It has since been suggested that the explanation for Jenna's momentary break in composure was due to the fact that the media was not paying attention to us, which as stated, could not possibly be further from the truth. Even if that statement held any modicum of truth both of us would want the focus of attention to be on the very real, very serious issue of mortgage servicing fraud as opposed to either one of us specifically.

I've always known that politics, at virtually any level, can be greasy at best but I never realized that the depth of scum was this thick even at the edge of the pool. Needless to say that I won't be participating in any future Clinton events - not that I would expect to be invited again. Even the most basic level of reasoning would conclude that I simply do not have the correct combination of chromosomes. That being said, I can only hope that the majority of voters reach the realization that sharing the same unique chromosomal makeup with a Presidential candidate is simply not the best qualifier for your vote as a citizen of the United States of America.

If anyone would like more information on our situation in particular or on mortgage servicing fraud in general, please feel free to visit www.getdshirtz.com because after all, all you have to lose - is your home. Please understand that it is simply easier to direct anyone interested to our site as opposed to covering the last six years of our lives here. Should anyone have any specific questions, please feel free to ask either here or contact us directly through the site. We'll do whatever we can to get answers for you.



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My Wife Wanted to Buy a House (3.00 / 1)

But our credit wasn't great, the folks at the Mortgage Company assured us we could renegotiate the terms of the loan after 6 months of what they called "seasoning."  That turned out to be a lie.  They have since sold the Loan to another company.

I don't want banks to be prohibitted from doing business.  I think the banks have a right to make money.

I just wish we had known more about what we were getting ourselve into.

I have looked at Clinton's plan:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/mo rtgage/?sc=8

And while it appears that it does not help you win your lawsuit, I feel it does help me and my family address our present concerns, and also would have prevented us from signing the papers to begin with.

Assuming all of this is legit.

Personal anecdotes always creep me out on the Internet.  "I was at an Obama rally the other day and he made a baby cry," blah blah blah.

Everyone has a right to express their perceptions and legitimate reactions to anything they find themselves personally involved in.


by Edgar08 on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 05:54:05 PM EST

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I don't want banks to be prohibited from legitimately making money either, Edgar. And if Senator Clinton's predatory lending plan was a NEW plan it might be something. Unfortunately, it's nothing that I haven't heard other politicians say over the last six years.

Let me be clear - Senator Clinton's staff invited us to meet with them on the assumption that our issue was a predatory lending issue which it most certainly is not. And yet, they chose to attempt to present it as such despite the fact that they were told several times that our issue wasn't a PL issue. Also, NO amount of legislation enacted from this point forward is going to help with our litigation either.

Assuming all of what is legitimate, Edgar?

Bringing the federal government even further into the mortgage mess isn't going to help regulate it any better, either. How do I know this? Because the federal government is already well aware of predatory lending, they are well aware of mortgage servicing fraud and no one at the federal level really wants to do anything to protect the consumers. How can I say this? Visit www.ftc.gov and search "Fairbanks Capital" and read the settlement. Then read the Ameriquest settlement. Then do the basic math. Fairbanks victims that opted in to USA/Curry v. Fairbanks would have received roughly $143 each if the reimbursement was distributed evenly - which is never is in class actions. If I remember correctly, the Ameriquest settlement netted those victims roughly $400 each. The problem with each and every "settlement" is that the defendant entities are allowed to settle them without admitting any wrongdoing. And in every case that I've looked at so far, the settlement monies have been covered by insurance policies as opposed to coming out of the corporations pockets. That being the case, all a settlement figure to corps. like Ameriquest, Fairbanks/SPS, Litton, Ocwen, etc. is simply the cost of doing business.

What parts of the Clinton plan would have specifically prevented you from signing mortgage documents, Egdar?


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 09:05:12 PM EST
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They have to make it clear how their commision works, that and no bad faith promises.

The Prepayment Penalty thing will also save us a lot money when we are able to finally refinance.

If you've already decided the Federal Government can't help, then, you know, I'm afraid I don't know what you want from the Federal Government.

I'm a little sceptical sometimes of the Internet.

Anyone can go get a Username and then post a long story about how they went to some Candidate's Rally and were treated horribly.  How does one confirm something like that?  Do you assume veracity in all cases?  I tried to find some confirmation somewhere of your story, something by a more objective third party, and I couldn't find anything.  It's not really a reflection on you.  It's a limitation of Blogs themselves.

When I post things I like to provide a link or something so people can know what I'm talking about in at least some way that doesn't force people to trust me implicitly.


by Edgar08 on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 12:11:12 AM EST
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I agree that the entire mortgage process needs to be demysitified, Edgar. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it can happen - at least not easily and especially not as long as notes are being securitized. After living through the last six years about the absolute best advice I can give anyone mortgaging a property is a.) if the deal sounds too good, it probably is b.) resist any and all temptation to purchase more "house" than you can realistically afford and c.) if at all possible, hire an attorney to review your loan documents - preferably before you sign them but at the very least within the three day right of recission that every new mortgagor is allowed by law.

Yes, the current federal government has failed me - completely. And it will continue to fail consumers until consumers insist on being taken seriously and demand that individuals and corporations be held accountable for their actions. Settling complaints "without admitting wrongdoing" lets defendants off the hook completely. With no admission of wrongdoing any "settlement" figure is simply the cost of doing business. I'm most familiar with my own situation so I'll use that. Fairbanks "voluntarily" settled USA/Curry for $55 million - $40M of that going directly to the victims I believe. In exchange for that, Fairbanks was allowed to admit no wrongdoing in the case. Now, not a dime of that money came out of the corporate pockets. There are insurance policies in place to cover that. The worst thing that happened to Fairbanks is that the company had to get new letterhead when they changed the name to Select Portfolio Servicing in order to distance themselves from the negative publicity.

But my own situation is only a small part of the illustration. The bigger picture here is that a candidate that purports to want to eliminate predatory lending is financing her campaign with special interest money from many of the very entities that are perpetrating and/or enabling predatory lending and mortgage servicing fraud to begin with. As I mentioned, according to FEC filings Sen. Clinton has accepted PAC money from four of the entities in my case that have spent the last six years trying to literally steal my home. Unfortunatley, I'm still familiarizing myself with blog site code so I'm not sure how to post URLs yet but the list is easy enough to find at www.FEC.gov.  

My own legal situation notwithstanding, I feel that there is a point that absolutely needs to be made and I don't think I've seen it brought up by anyone yet. Many candidates accept PAC money to finance their campaigns. That's all fine, well and good. But, at least to me, the special interest money that you accept in order to finance your campaign speaks to your values and beliefs as a candidate. That being said, why should a candidate who accepts the sheer volume of PAC money that Sen. Clinton does from JP Morgan Chase, CSFB, the National Real Estate Investment Trust Association, the Mortgage Bankers Association, Merrill Lynch, etc. expect to be taken at all seriously when they stand up and say that they want to take on topics like predatory lending? You'd have an easier time selling me on a candidate that accepts PACs from BP, Shell, and Exxon and wants to stump for alternative energy but, admittedly, I'm biased here.


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 04:51:35 PM EST
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why should a candidate who accepts the sheer volume of PAC money that Sen. Clinton does from JP Morgan Chase, CSFB, the National Real Estate Investment Trust Association, the Mortgage Bankers Association, Merrill Lynch, etc. expect to be taken at all seriously when they stand up and say that they want to take on topics like predatory lending?

Maybe you haven't been on this blog for long but Obama comes in a close second to her in collecting contributions from many of this same financial institution that you mention . Edwards also has some substantial contribution from this same sources as well .

You seem to be making a partisan attack on Clinton cloaked in the form of a personal experience the more I read your comments . I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt at first , but I am beginning to think twice about that.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 05:27:00 PM EST
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Lori, you're obviously more than welcome to think what you like. I spoke about the Clinton Derry, NH event because the Clinton campaign invited us to the Derry event because they refused to acknowledge that our situation was not a predatory lending issue despite being told that numerous times. The Clinton campaign had access to my website, access to our attorney, had a copy of the current litigation and who we had named as defendants and they STILL insisted on trying to pigeon hole us as "predatory lending victims".

As far as Sen. Obama, the only mention I've made of him was that I liked the quote that I singled out from him - nothing more.

Rest assured that I am doing my best to see where everyone gets his or her money from as part of my decision. And I promise to think just as little of any other candidate that makes me drive through a McMansion development in order to listen to them roll out their predatory lending policy at an event funded by PAC money accepted from the majority of the entities that have spent the last six years trying to steal my home from me and not just Sen. Clinton. If you consider that a "partisan attack" then so be it.


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 08:18:55 PM EST
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on the assumption that our issue was a predatory lending issue which it most certainly is not.

Probably because you are on the record saying that it's just like predatory lending and refer to your issue as predatory servicing.

They say what's happened to them is similar to predatory lending.

" At least with predatory lending, most people are aware of it now, and you can see it on its face for what it is, but predatory servicing, I guarantee you that nine out of ten people have no clue what's happening to them until it's too late, and you're sitting their with a foreclosure notice in your lap."

Fairbanks is a servicer of subprime mortgages, isn't it? It's easy to see how this might have happened and somewhat disingenuous for you to now claim there it has "absolutely zero to do with predatory lending" when parallels have been drawn in the past to garner publicity.  

What I don't see in this diary is the names of the Clinton campaign staffers you interacted with, but what I do see is that Jenna voluntarily opted out due to health concerns. How is this Senator Clinton's fault? It appears that the real problem is that Ms. Schofield received more attention than you did. Perhaps the campaign felt more confident that she wouldn't cancel in the last minute.

It is perfectly valid to express a desire to see additional legislation focusing on regulation of subprime mortgage servicers as well as brokers/lenders. This was an opportunity to educate but not by taking over Senator Clinton's Derry event and deciding how the message should be managed, but rather, by requesting follow-up w/ a staffer with your prepared summaries.

Since all the candidates spend time in NH, perhaps you can contact staff at one of the other campaigns that might be a better fit for you. However, given that you've gone on the internet and impugned the testimony of Ms.Schofield and the motivation of the Clinton campaign, I would not be surprised if you are ignored as unprofessional or worse, a loose cannon. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but you are making a lot of accusations without proper foundation.


by dblhelix on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 07:12:34 AM EST
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Funny that you go all the way back to, I believe, the first interview that we ever did on the topic Helix. And you're right; we said that - back in 2004. Note that, even back then, the statement said that mortgage servicing fraud is "similar" to predatory lending - not "just like it" as you say. Three years later our education has continued and we can now better articulate the issue and state that predatory lending and mortgage servicing fraud are two distinct entities. Predatory lending is an origination issue. Mortgage servicing fraud is a securitization issue. Pardon us for appearing disingenuous three years ago. At the time of the interview we were still very early on in the learning curve. Neither of us has either a degree in financing nor worked in the mortgage or banking industries so we've been at a bit of a disadvantage here. But, as you point out, Fairbanks is a mortgage servicer - not a lender. Parallels were drawn in the past because at the time we had no better language to describe mortgage servicing fraud and it was simply easier to place mortgage servicing fraud next to predatory lending because people had become familiar with that issue. And yet, here we are three years later, and still very few people know what mortgage servicing fraud is. But more are learning every day either by talking to someone that does know about it or by losing their own home to an illegal foreclosure.

And you are correct, you don't see the campaign contacts named - anymore. I originally DID name them in the first entry I made at BlueHampshire.com. The problem that I encountered when I named names was that my telephone blew up. Calls from said individual completely, if only briefly, sobbing and accusing me of attempting to destroy them professionally which was the furthest thing from my mind since they were merely mentioned in the capacity that they had made initial contact with us and continued to act as liaison. And in mentioning them, it detracted from what I was trying to say - so the names were removed and I haven't heard anything since.

Yes, Jenna declined to introduce Sen. Clinton when the offer was made as opposed to accepting and then having to cancel. That was actually the main consideration that we had to make when the offer was first received. But let me be perfectly clear once and for all - I harbor no ill feelings at all toward Kristi whatsoever. In fact, Kristi and Jenna have spoken since the event and Jenna was able to give Kristi a few suggestions. What I DID have a problem with was that what Kristi said in her intro sounded exactly like what was suggested to Jenna to speak about both in our private meeting with the Senator and in her intro had she accepted. Ok, I'll come right out and say it - I don't think Kristi wanted to say everything that she said in her introduction of Sen. Clinton. It is my belief that she was coached or coerced or it was otherwise suggested to her what she should say. I have spoken to dozens of people losing their homes to foreclosures both legitimate and illegal. They want to talk about the problem. They especially want to talk about what happened if they don't feel that they belong in their situation. They don't want to discuss the more embarrassing things that they may have to do in order to survive or in order to care for their family - especially not before a few hundred of their peers, especially not after driving through a neighborhood comprised of McMansions and especially not in front of half a dozen television cameras which translates into hundreds of thousands if not millions of additional families watching.

Personally, I don't care if I receive any media attention about my current situation. What I DO care about is that mortgage servicing fraud is exposed for what it is and that it is acknowledged that MSF actually exists - period. And to date, no one has. Now, hopefully, with the current implosion of hedge funds and the like the general public will begin to find out what mortgage servicing fraud really is. We attempted to educate the Clinton campaign about mortgage servicing fraud from the moment they first contacted us - and they did approach us we didn't seek them out. But the Clinton campaign didn't want to hear that we were anything other than predatory lending victims. And in no way did I attempt to "take over" the event. I don't know where you get that impression but it is simply wrong. We met with the Senator for the brief ten minutes or so that we had and we then went and watched the event. If, in doing so, any of those actions implied that we endorse Senator Clinton in any manner then those implications are absolutely incorrect.

If either Kristi Schofield or Clinton campaign staff would care to corroborate or refute what I have stated then they obviously have every right to. Unfortunately, I wasn't documenting the entire two weeks leading up to the event with a video camera. Yes, I have emails and voice mails that I feel support what I have said but to publish them would be absolutely pointless. And if any other candidate would like to contact us to discuss mortgage servicing fraud and what it entails then by all means we would love to speak with them regardless of party affiliation. As long as they recognize that mortgage servicing fraud is not predatory lending and that we will not allow words to be put in our mouths simply for the "privilege" of being allowed to appear with them in public I'm sure everything will be fine. I'm not even close to being a politician. I've never pretended to be one. I'm not going to pretend to be one simply to be allowed to interact with them. They work for me. If they want me to give them the job of running this country then they need to be able to show me that they have the intelligence, integrity, understanding and staff to do so and not just attempt to twist my personal story to fit their campaign agenda. If that is a problem for any of the candidates, Democratic or Republican, then of course they should find other citizens to illustrate their positions.


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 07:38:41 PM EST
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I was at the same speech and had an entirely different take.  I appreciate your personal situation, but eliminating pre-payment fee's would have saved my mother a couple of thousand dollars this year.  I think she could go even further with her efforts, but it is a nice start.  


by bookgrl on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 06:11:11 PM EST

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I don't disagree with you at all, BG. Prepayment penalties can be tough to deal with. But prepayment penalties have to be disclosed at the closing table at the latest by law and they are only one small part of the predatory lending puzzle. And, as I mentioned to Edgar, most of what Senator Clinton proposed on Tuesday has already been suggested in the past. In the grand scheme of predatory lending, the broker is the most visible link in the chain and this is where the Senator placed the majority of the blame for predatory lending. Of course, a broker is there to make money on a loan. Regulating the brokers is NOT going to fix the issue because the brokers can only sell the products that lenders come up with.

If I can walk in off of the street and qualify for a no doc loan with no SS# is that the broker's fault? A broker would not be able to sell that product to me if it didn't exist. And that is a lender issue. The problem there is that the Clinton campaign accepts PAC money from not only lenders but investment banks

Another part of the problem with the Clinton PL policy is that it is simply too late to "start" fixing the problem. The time to "start" fixing it was ten years ago and apparently no one wanted to do it then either. PAC money goes a long way, especially over time. Which is yet another issue that I brought up.

There were over a dozen PAC contributors on the Clinton campaign list that I could recognize without having to do any research with ties to the mortgage/banking/financial world. I have to admit that I like Sen. Obama's answer to this which was along the lines of "If you don't think special interest money is a problem in Washington, you've probably been in Washington too long."

And, in order to actually appreciate my situation Bg, you would have to know a little about securitization, REMICs, REITs, RMBS, prospectuses, PSAs, 424b5s, 10-Ks, 8-Ks, assignments, RESPA, TILA, trustees, master servicers, Reg Z, FDCPA, FCRA, breach of contract, LPOAs and fiduciary duties just to name a few things. And I only know enough about them to be dangerous. That's what I've got a consumer protection attorney with antitrust and litigation experience for.

My particular situation can happen to literally anyone with a mortgage. All it takes is for the servicing rights to be assigned/sold/transferred to one of the servicing entities like Fairbanks/SPS that uses their servicing platform. The fact that mortgage servicing fraud can happen with literally any mortgage makes it a potentially larger problem than predatory lending. And no one wanted to talk about that for either the week and a half prior to the Derry, NH event or the day of when we had ten minutes to speak with the Senator. All the campaign wanted us to talk about was how this awful event had affected our lives and how miserable we've been for the last six years. If we had done that when we had the attention of a United States Senator it would have been disrespectful to the hundreds of thousands of other mortgage servicing fraud victims in the US that are either currently in the process of losing their own homes or have already lost them.

WE wanted to talk about the issue. The Clinton campaign wanted to about how much the Senator's predatory lending policy was going to help us - when it has absolutely nothing to do with our problem. If I'm not mistaken, the Frank/Watt/Miller predatory lending proposed legislation that has been stalled for the last year would be as good if not better than the current Clinton proposal and it still wouldn't help anyone in my situation - because it addresses predatory lending issues and not mortgage servicing fraud issues.

Senator Clinton does have a valid point or two in her plan. Unfortunately, the entire regulatory system is going to have to be overhauled in order to implement it. Fannie and Freddie are already well aware of both predatory lending and mortgage servicing fraud issues and neither one of them are at all eager to help out. Neither are the other federal agencies that I have previously mentioned.


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 09:57:37 PM EST
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Senator Obama is the biggest recipient of donations from commercial bankers, just so you know. I actually know a little about securitization, REMICs, REITs, RMBS, prospectuses, PSAs, 424b5s, 10-Ks, 8-Ks, assignments, RESPA, TILA, trustees, master servicers, Reg Z, FDCPA, FCRA, breach of contract, LPOAs and alot about fiduciary duties. It was clearly a mistake to invite you to this discussion as it did not pertain to your situation, I can see why you feel let down.  However, I think thought Clinton had some good ideas that should be implemented. It doesn't mean it is the end of the story.  Clearly, it isn't.


by bookgrl on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 12:57:01 AM EST
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Nice diary..you should post that on DailyKos.

the homeowner mortage stuff is an important issue.


by JaeHood on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 06:35:18 PM EST

This Would Be Perfect (none / 0)

For DailyKos!


by Edgar08 on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 06:45:28 PM EST
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Good snark. (none / 0)


by chicago jeff on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 01:12:11 AM EST
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Please don't even act like you are interested in homeowner mortgage issue , tell me what do you find interesting , what do you know about it.

You are just a phony and it shows so obviously , anything that paint the clinton campaign in a bad light , you will obviuosly want crossposted on daily kos.

If the issue is so important to you why don't you write a diary about it and crosspost it on daily kos yourself.

Of all the crappy diaries you have written about your candidate not once have you written about the home mortgage issue.

It's despicable what you intentions are and you are full of crap . Everyone knows you are a hater but you obviously don't know when its appropriate to stop.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 08:21:14 PM EST
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jesus chris,can you come down...you're acting like a whinny kid.


by JaeHood on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 09:05:23 PM EST
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Snide snark. (none / 0)


by chicago jeff on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 01:13:43 AM EST
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Really, this is informative.  I know many who have and are paying a huge price for predatory lending.  Now, what is the damn government going to do about it?  I don't expect none of these candidates to have a plan, because that industry is so unstable, what you put out NOW, will be nothing later.  For once, let the partisan bickering go.  This man is going through a lot right now, have some damn empathy.


by iamready on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 02:49:33 AM EST
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Thanks Iam, I appreciate the support. This is part of what is frustrating me. Personally, I don't care if my own situation is acknowledged. As far as I know, I'm the first homeowner in the country to have obtained both permanent injunctions and contempt orders against a servicer without having to file for Chapter 13 protection. My house has been protected from the illegal foreclosure for about a year now. We've actually been able to move on to playing offense as opposed to defense.

My problem is that no one seems to want to acknowledge that mortgage servicing fraud even exists. This really troubles me because I would be willing to bet that a good portion of the current foreclosure crisis has actually been caused by fraudulent mortgage servicers literally manufacturing defaults in order to extract additional fees.  And this is where I usually start losing people. What allows them to do this is that servicers get to keep things like late fees, forbearance fees and pre-payment penalties as "additional servicing compensation". They get to keep these fees because of the way that the Pooling and Servicing Agreements for the trust prospectuses are written. The fact that they get to pocket these fees takes away any incentive for a servicer to keep a homeowner current in their monthly mortgage payments. To do so cuts their bottom line significantly.

Everybody knows that predatory lending exists. Yes it's a big problem. But in the grand scheme of the mortgage industry predatory lending affects a far smaller population than mortgage servicing fraud potentially does. In order to be affected by predatory lending you have to accept a particular loan product that has been created in a predatory manner. In order to fall victim to mortgage servicing fraud all that has to happen is that your loan has to be sold off to the secondary market and securitized into a REMIC, REIT or other form of RMBS. And you, as a homeowner, have absolutely zero say or control as to who services your loan. The only remedy that a homeowner has is to attempt to refinance away from the predatory servicer and there is no guarantee that you won't simply end up right back with them or one that is even worse.

Mortgage servicing fraud is potentially a much larger problem than predatory lending. It began probably shortly after Lewis Ranieri began securitizing loans at Salomon Brothers in the 80's or so. I've been dealing with it for six years now and I know others that were dealing with it ten or fifteen years ago with Dime Savings Bank. Literally anyone reading this who has a mortgage could end up in the situation that I've been for the last six years. And yet, no one anywhere wants to acknowledge that it exists.  


www.getdshirtz.com - Because, after all, all you have to lose - is your home.
by Mike Dillon on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 08:53:05 PM EST
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Do you expect Clinton to change "business as usual" in the country?
Her only plan is to be President. The rest is "trust me".
That's how Bush got elected and you saw the results: grotesque bad judgements even with experience.
by win on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 12:49:49 PM EST

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PERSONALLY, I NO LONGER TRUST OUR GOVERNMENTS - FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTIES, CITIES AND/OR TOWNSHIPS. IT'S ALL SIMPLY A POLITICAL MESS. WHO OR WHAT PARTY CAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS A WHOLE TRUST? ELECTION AFTER ELECTION, MOST OF US ATTEMPT TO VOTE FOR WHATEVER CANIDIATE AND/OR WHATEVER PARTY FITS OUR HEARTS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I BELIEVE MOST AMERICANS ATTEMPT TO VOTE FOR WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S PEOPLES JUST AS THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. HOWEVER, OUR SOCEITY IS NOT THAT OF THE 1800'S ANY LONGER.

I QUESTION AS ONCE A SMALL BUSINESSMAN WHO HAS LOST $ 500,000.00 PLUS MY BUSINESSES, ALL DUE TO THE LACK OF FEDERAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS, MORTGAGE THIEVERY AND UNSPECIFIED STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS - WHEN WILL WE AS AMERICANS STAND TOGETHER BY SIMPLY STATING - YOU'RE DONE, YOU'RE HISTORY, IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU'RE THE HELL OUT OF OFFICE ESPECIALLY, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HANGING AROUND SINCE 1801.

GOOD LUCK AMERICA - I DON'T THINK I'LL WAIT ANY LONGER FOR MAJOR REFORMS I, THINK I'LL JUST TAKE MY LOSSES AND MOVE TOWARDS A GOVERNMENT PAYCHECK. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT ISN'T IT ? SORRY, MENTAL DISTRESS !              


by GRTAMERICAN on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 11:36:23 PM EST
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