Is Obama Copying Edwards' Message?

by TarHeel, Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:36:38 PM EST

I haven't spent most of my life in politics, which most of you know, but I have spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change Washington.

You know, the truth is, folks from here in Robbins, they don't have lobbyists in Washington D.C. They don't have lobbyists working for them and fighting for them. They count on their government to protect them, to protect their interests, and they deserve a president who goes to work every day thinking about them, fighting for them, protecting them. That's the president that the people of Robbins need.

Well, I have never taken a dime from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists. I have spent my life working for people against those special interests. I know this fight, I am ready for this fight, and we will win this fight.

And we deserve a president who's close to our people, not close to the lobbyists, who listens to our people because he knows them, because he works for them, a president who hearse them, even when they can't speak, when they can't speak because they've lost their job, because they're caring for a child, or just because the simple struggle to make ends meet leaves them with no time for anything else.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0 309/16/se.01.html

Well I probably gave it away but it sounds an awful lot like Obama..

Except this is Edwards from September 2003.

Is Axelrod dusting off his last campaign and abandoning the "new politics"?

Here's Edwards at the YouTube/CNN debates talking about special interests.

Which is remarkably similar to Obama's new ad.

Here's Edwards in Iowa with a barnstormer of a speach going on about lobbyists and change.

It's clearly a great message. It appears Obama is abandoning the "new politics" and "partisanship" message.

Even if you believe this is all consultant stuff I'd make two arguments - Edwards 2007 is much better than Edwards 2003 - both in content and style so he should get a lot of credit at delivering a better product today than in 2003.

Second, Edwards in 1998 when he first ran for office never accepted any money from PACs or lobbyists. (When he had no connection to Axelrod!). So this is a core conviction... Obama took money from PACs and Lobbyists for his Senate 2004 campaign and well into the end of 2006...

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_04+S4IL00180

Third, the current line "It is time for the President of the United States to ask the American people to be patriotic about something other than war." is way better than anything from 2003 and should be trademarked and marketed on tee-shirts IMHO. I think attributing this all to Axelrod is wishful thinking..


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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

It also sounds like Obama in 2003...maybe they just have similiar concerns


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by CardBoard on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:38:00 PM EST

Actually in 2004 (none / 0)

Obama took PAC and lobbyist money, so I really doubt he would have railed against it....


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:44:32 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

lol, this guy can't even come up with his own gimmick. WEAK


African-american for Hillary 2008
by terrondt on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 07:50:27 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

 Wow , this is as close to political plagiarism as you can get . Obama is taking a lot of cues from Edwards.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:38:34 PM EST

Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

I agree with you about the political plagiarism. Wow, amazing.


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:50:55 PM EST
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"Wow"... (none / 0)

...really? Don't get out much do we.

They are similar sentiments but Obama says it so much better. I guess that's why a book he wrote in 1995  (Dreams of My Father) is still on the NYT's best sellers list.  


by JoeCoaster on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:08:19 PM EST
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cognitive dissonance (none / 0)

how can one run as the uniter, new politics, bipartisan WHILE also railing against big interests/special interests and the status quo?


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:33:42 PM EST
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Re: cognitive dissonance (none / 0)

I think his line is that the special interests get a set at the table they just can't buy all the seats. The unity/consensus message is about weighing all competing interests equitably. There's no dissonance.


by DPW on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 04:46:57 AM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (3.00 / 1)

Obama's words also tend to make news from speech to speech.  Edwards had two-americas stump speech, and that is what he did.  But Obama shakes up his stump speech a lot - like today's term is Bush is creating a new "guilded age."  His creative terminology generates a lot of "Obama said _____ today" stories - which is a complaint I had of Edwards (While supporting him) in 2004.


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by CardBoard on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:44:14 PM EST

Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

ok so he has a way with words , thats your point right.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:51:23 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

yeah...but also that Edwards should have, and has begun too, mix up his stump speech a bit to make news.  Giving the same speech everywhere doesn't do anything for the media - and you gotta play to them.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:53:20 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

I actually think Edwards is better on the stump than obama .


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:55:41 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

that may be true, but he doesn't often make news on the stump...even in 2004.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:06:56 PM EST
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except (none / 0)

IMHO it's too Kerryesque.

Most  voters have no idea about the Guilded Age (1870-1890 ish).

As an example you can read TPMcafe where the person defending this thought Great Gatsby was the Guilded age while another commenter said Great Gatsby was 1920ish...

So, I think Edwards' use of "rigged" cuts through to voters better than "Guilded age".


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:55:20 PM EST
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Re: except (none / 0)

yeah, it is a little out of the main stream vocab...but he frames issues several ways to appeal to a broader group.  I don't think he ought to use "guilded age" all the time.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:08:06 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

wow. poor edwards. is it just me or is the "two americas" slogan kinda weak?


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:50:49 PM EST

Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

I would prefer his candidacy to Obama's


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:57:14 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

I wasn't clear, I completely agree with the message I just think the slogan could be better. I don't think it has gotten him very far. I say this as a supporter who wants to see him do better.


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:20:26 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

This is Obama's reverse 'co-opt' or 'triangulate'. LOL. Be careful, Edwards....


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:53:06 PM EST

you got some funny responses (none / 0)

I guess there's no "ownership" in politics...


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:57:28 PM EST
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I haven't spent most of my life in politics, (none / 0)

"I haven't spent most of my life in politics"

actually obama has. he's spent the majority of his post grad years in politics.


by dpg220 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:53:30 PM EST

This is on talkingpointsmemo now (none / 0)

This is from talkingpointsmemo:
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/


Obama's new TV ad in Iowa -- which we posted below -- offers the following as one of its key lines:

"I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change."

That's a key Obama line. It's worth noting, though, that John Edwards actually deserves credit for coming up with it. A reader sends in this, from Edwards' 2004 Presidential campaign announcement speech:

"I haven't spent most of my life in politics, which most of you know, but I have spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change Washington."

Not a huge deal, obviously, and perhaps the statute of limitations on a sentiment like this has long run out. Still, credit where credit's due, and all that, particularly since the line's a good one.

Update: Also worth noting: David Axelrod was Edwards' media adviser then, and he's advising Obama now.

Wow!!!


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:01:10 PM EST

Re: This is on talkingpointsmemo now (none / 0)

Is Obama today's version of 1988's Joe Biden?


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:22:08 PM EST
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Re: This is on talkingpointsmemo now (none / 0)

you know this might be a huge problem for him in the coming days


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:30:24 PM EST
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Re: This is on talkingpointsmemo now (none / 0)

Exactly!

But where is the outrage?


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:33:06 PM EST
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Re: This is on talkingpointsmemo now (none / 0)

Well to be honest, the message is pretty common when it comes to politics.  My guess is that Axelrod probably forgot that Edwards used the same verbiage four years ago.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:38:37 PM EST
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recommend (none / 0)

Please recommend!!!


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:01:35 PM EST

Re: recommend (none / 0)

this is almost word for word.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:20:21 PM EST
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Re: recommend (none / 0)

Done!


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:33:57 PM EST
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Re: recommend (none / 0)

Because?

Not because you like Edwards but you imagine that this might in some strange way hurt Obama.

Funny how the meaning of your life seems to be to hate Obama.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:21:06 PM EST
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University of Chicago Law School? (none / 0)

I wonder if University of Chicago Law School would consider this plagerism?


by BigBoyBlue on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:31:41 PM EST

Old Standard (3.00 / 1)

This is classic "change" rhetoric, people. It was around a long time before John Edwards picked it up in 2003, and it will be around a long time after Obama is either elected President or returns to the Senate. I'm guessing Axelrod was inspired by words first uttered long before 2003.

Every time someone runs for President as a "Washington outsider," they will use the "change Washington" slogan similar to the one employed by Edwards and Obama. I bet if you go back to 1992 and read a Bill Clinton speech, you'll find a line similar to this one.


Never separate the life you live from the words you speak. -Sen. Paul Wellstone (Minnesota)
by Max Fletcher on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:33:31 PM EST

Re: Old Standard (none / 0)

You know I don't think it should be almost the same words , if this becomes a huge story it might be damaging to him.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:37:15 PM EST
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Re: Old Standard (none / 0)

I feel like I am being hoodwinked


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:37:55 PM EST
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Re: Old Standard (none / 0)

These lines are from Obama's announcement speech six months ago, and the parallels to Edwards were mentioned back then.
Second, this line from the diarist -- "It appears Obama is abandoning the "new politics" and "partisanship" message" -- is blatantly false, when you consider that the lines quoted in the ad are from February.  
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by psericks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:50:19 PM EST
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Re: Did Edwards or Obama Say This? (none / 0)

It's still not on 'recommended list' yet. Come on folks. Where are the Edwards supporters? LOL.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 04:37:44 PM EST

Re: Is Obama Copying Edwards' Message? (none / 0)

Isn't this kind of a silly thing to worry about?

Imagine two Democrats with a similar world view.  Contrary to popular belief, neither of these guys invented any of these sentiments.


by AdamSmithsHand on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:06:22 PM EST

Great minds think alike (none / 0)

Edwards was not the first and Obama won't be the last.

It's a great line.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:22:05 PM EST

Well,I think Edwards copies my progressive message (none / 0)

and mimics Al Gore where ever possible :)


by NuevoLiberal on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:25:50 PM EST

One of Gore's top people (none / 0)

works for Edwards


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:32:50 PM EST
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Re: One of Gore's top people (none / 0)

sometime back there was a rumor that Edwards may attend a Gore family gathering. Did he?

EroS, long time no see. Hope you're doing well.


by NuevoLiberal on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:37:35 PM EST
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doing well (none / 0)

didn't hear anything about the rumor coming to fruition.


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:41:26 PM EST
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I heard he was invited (none / 0)

to be the "keynote" speaker from 3 sources now but no solid confirmation.


by okamichan13 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:10:23 PM EST
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Re: I heard he was invited (none / 0)

the event may have already taken place. doesn't look like Edwards attended.


by NuevoLiberal on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:18:14 PM EST
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May? (none / 0)

it did or it didn't right?


by okamichan13 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:36:29 PM EST
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Re: May? (none / 0)

If gore endorsed edwards it would be a different race for sure. Come to think of it, thats exactly what he needs.


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:25:22 PM EST
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Re: May? (none / 0)

My guess is that Gore may not endorse anyone this time around for the primary.

He did not endorse Lieberman or Edwards (his top pick for VP in 2000), because they had both aggressively supported the war.


by NuevoLiberal on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:21:39 PM EST
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Re: May? (none / 0)

I think it happened in the 27th, and it doesn't appear that Edwards was in attendance. That's based on what I've read here and there.


by NuevoLiberal on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:20:25 PM EST
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Re: Is Obama Copying Edwards' Message? (none / 0)

"What America needs is an outsider! Now I've got to cut this short, there's a vote coming up before the Senate and I have to vote!"

It works better for one than for the other, I think.


"If [John Edwards] seems too good to be true, well, so be it; instead, you can pick a candidate who's bad enough to be plausible." - Daily Kos user Drew
by Junior Bug on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 05:54:40 PM EST

Amazingly similar (none / 0)

Compare:

"I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington, but I've been there long enough to know the ways of Washington must change," Obama said in his announcement speech featured in his new spot today.

And

"I haven't spent most of my life in politics, which most of you know, but I have spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change Washington," said...John Edwards, in 2003.

and ironically Axelrod was helping Edwards in 2003. Bet that ad took some real brainstorming....


by okamichan13 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:11:41 PM EST

Oops forgot the link (none / 0)

from Politico
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 707/Dept_of_Cliches.html
by okamichan13 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:12:52 PM EST
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Tarheel (none / 0)

Thanks Tarheel,

You made mydd famous!! Go to politico. They mentioned you first spotted this plagarism. LOL.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:26:05 PM EST

Re: Tarheel (none / 0)

actually I predicted a few days ago he would take a sharp left turn because his message did not work.

LOL. Bingo. I hope this filters out to the MSM but I'm not holindg my breath since they are still in Obama lovefest.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:29:07 PM EST
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Re: Tarheel (none / 0)

So, you "predicted" Obama's February announcement speech 2 days ago? Extraordinary.


by DPW on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:42:12 PM EST
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Re: Tarheel (none / 0)

areyouready- since your so good at predictions, will President Clinton pardon my "intent to sell" misdemeaner?


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:27:35 PM EST
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Re: Tarheel (none / 0)

So much for Obama's ethics credentials.


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:49:59 PM EST
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All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/7/31/1739 12/528'

Because in the end, WHO CARES!!!


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:30:24 PM EST

Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

You know Axelrod is involved in this stuff , he is a very sloppy guy. I am not terribly impressed with him , even when he was with edwards


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 06:57:00 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

lori, it does not MATTER.  This was argue for NOTHING before about Hillary using "change".  No one owns that word.  And guess what?  After the debate, Joe Trippi from Edwards, sent out an email, "Tonight we turned the page".  Big Whoop.  It does not mean nothing.  People fight the battles you can win, don't waste time on petty stuff like this.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 07:26:45 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

yeah it might be nothing at the end of the day , but it is very akward , its just like me turning in a thesis in class and seeing a friend turning in the same thesis almost verbatim , like she just jacked my thesis straight up . Is this not in an ad , you know axelrod can be sued for turning in trade secrets to a competitor.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 07:34:06 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (1.00 / 1)

You Obama worshipers don't care about something so inconvenient as plagiarism. If Barack says it you all fall in line or get down on your knees. You folks have the least ethical candidate seeking the office and you couldn't frickin care less.


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:57:32 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

"It does not mean nothing."
I see you are using your Obama skills.
Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:59:02 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

You are right. Who cares if Obama stole his speech from Edwards. I'm sure no one actually cares. Obama is the authentic candidate, right?


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:52:09 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

There are two things wrong with your point.

1. You act as though Obama is sneaking around Edwards' campaign office stealing speeches out of file cabinets.
2. You act as though John Edwards invented all political discourse in this country, and is the only politican to ever use the "outsider" theme.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:00:53 PM EST
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I hope Obama (none / 0)

doesn't start wearing "live strong" yellow wristbands..


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:03:21 PM EST
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Re: I hope Obama (none / 0)

Yeah...Edwards was the first politican to do that too, you're right. I also hope Obama doesn't start wearing them, because that would be SO 2004.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:09:38 AM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

Actually Axelrod used to work for Edwards , so he could have just passed along Edwards campaign strategies to obama so that almost equals sneaking around campaign office . If I was Edwards I'll be pissed off. It doesn't seem even seem that they twiked it a bit , they were almost using it word for word. Axelrod  lacks imagination and creativity.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:09:25 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (1.00 / 1)

If you aren't intelligent enough to see that Obama stole directly from Edwards' speech then I wish you all the best in the Special Olympics where I am sure you will make everyone proud.


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:11:42 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

above comment offensive as hell. also stupid.


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:31:25 PM EST
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Re: All of you need to read this diary: (none / 0)

And thank you very much, I shall tuck this little remark in the back of my head so I can whip it out later.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:08:00 AM EST
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Re: Is Obama Copying Edwards' Message? (none / 0)

I did notice Obama saying the same speech in the last debate that Hillary did in the 2nd about "our military has done everything we have asked them- they deposed Saddam Hussein, etc., it was like word-for-word; I'm not sure who said it first but it was almost the exact wording that she had used before.


by reasonwarrior on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:42:31 PM EST

Re: Is Obama Copying Edwards' Message? (none / 0)

Silly,silly argument...What about Clinton "Change" theme..Obama could have easily said that she stole her message.

This story is a dumb story and the Edwards campaign aren't dumb enough to cry foul since they do not own the "outsider" theme...I'm sure Edwards took it from someone else himself...

In politics, you look at what works and you adopt or try to emulate it...

For example, you better believe that in 4 years, a lot of campaigns will sell their own memorabilia and items just so that the people that buys them from them gets counted as donors, just like the Obama campaign are currently doing.

Should the Obama folks bitch about that if in 4-8 years campaign starts selling their hats and shirts?...Of course not...Obama came up with this idea but nothing prevent others from trying to emulate it if it helps them in any forms.

This is politics..You look around at what message works and you try to create your own without completly hijacking the original message  word for word...My guess is Edwards got this message that Edwards are accusing Obama of stealing, from someone that came before him...Should that person go and accuse Edwards of thievery?...Very silly.

I'm sure the Edwards people aren't dumb enough to run to the media and bitch about it since they've done it too.

Edwards used the "turn the page" theme but i didnt hear Obama supporters whining about it..This is silly story.


by JaeHood on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 09:14:55 AM EST


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