Taking on Power

This reminded me of Al Gore's terrific 2000 convention speech:


The call to arms by John Edwards, that he seemed to really come into during the debate, shows some fighting spirit in New Hampshire.

Zephyr Teachout calls out the no-shows to BlogHer. A convention that hosts 800 bloggers whom talk to millions of women, and they couldn't even send a representative from their campaigns? In 2006, when Mark Warner wasn't even a candidate, we had his PAC send a representative (Nancy Scola). I just have to conclude that the leadership in most of the presidential campaigns is just totally clueless. The remarkable Elizabeth Edwards delivers the keynote.

Also, does the DNC's Howard Dean sending out an email that has this graphic signal that Al Gore is not running for President? It begins, A hundred years from now, school children will read about Al Gore...

The link the page sends you to is a LiveEarth page with a petition form.

I'm of the opinion that the "taking on the powerful" speech by Al Gore during the LA Democratic convention moved millions of people into his column, and was responsible for his gaining double-digit support in the polls at the time. Of course, there are those who think it was the kiss, or Lieberman, which is sorta funny to remember.



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Re: Dean - Support Al Gore (none / 0)

It must mean Gore isn't running as Dean cannot, as DNC head, endorse a candidate.


by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:41:34 PM EST

i'm surprised (none / 0)

i haven't seen a dailykos diary that read that graphic as a sign that dean was secretly getting ready to support an al gore candidacy


Never separate the life you live from the words you speak. -Sen. Paul Wellstone (Minnesota)
by Max Fletcher on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:41:36 PM EST

Re: i'm surprised (3.00 / 1)

Then you missed it.  It is right here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/30/ 141345/959
by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:43:04 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 2)

I have gone from ardent Hillary to Edwards.  I don't know why he's being suppressed by TPTB, but I am sick of it.

Is there anything more I coudl do to help this guy than $.  I've given and am now tempted to take an LOA to Iowa to help.  But it turned off IA voters to Dean when his supporters did it.

Hmmmm.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:42:32 PM EST

Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 2)

Join OneCorp for one thing.  Second, what state are you in?


by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:44:01 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 3)

Massachusetts.  :(

The sad face is that we really don't make much difference in national primaries, but we have a lot of $.

Link to OneCorp, please?

Thanks for the reply, btw.  :)


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:47:10 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 3)

Link to MA OneCorp
http://blog.johnedwards.com/chapters/sta te/MA

Every state and every district may matter in this one.  The DNC is predicting a fight after Super Tuesday to determine who is the nominee.  I am going to work hard for my district in Arkansas.  It happens on Super Tuesday (Feb 5).


by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:51:35 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 4)

thank you.  I'm am sooooooo in!!!


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:55:49 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 3)

Great!  Thank you for boarding the John Edwards '08 Express!


by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:59:41 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 4)

we'd love to have you come help us in NH, email me at evale at johnedwards dot com and i'll hook you up with our volunteer and field people!


http://www.johnedwards.com/nh
by epv72 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:01:27 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 3)

I will email you.  I'd love to get up there!  I'm only in Somerville, which is only 45 mins or so.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:05:59 PM EST
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heh I was just going to say NH (3.00 / 2)

and someone who actually lives there beat me to it :). Go for it!


by okamichan13 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 10:56:44 PM EST
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Don't forget one possible result ... (3.00 / 2)

... of having so many big primaries so early is that the field has not been completely narrowed down by Feb 5 ... and looking ahead, second tier candidates have already built up bases of support in specific Feb 5 states in an effort to make a headline ... and whoever finishes first finds very big chunks of delegates locked into other camps.

Suppose that the "winner" on Feb. 5 ends up with less than 40% of the delegates ... which could mean 60% of the delegates selected that day committed to some other candidate.

Indeed, an extended three way race could end up in a brokered convention, when every delegate will count, no matter when their primary was held.


*John Edwards* ... and the JE08 Supporters Blog
by BruceMcF on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:40:49 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 4)

I'm of the opinion that he has to just keep fighting,a nd his supporters to push him along. The fact is the passion in his voice from this video, which I had seen last week, captures what a lot of Americans feel right now. Even after 2006, I still feel like the party is behind the curb of where the American people are. They, our leadership, still talk way too much amongst themselves and the Washington community than they do ordinary Americans. I don't know what can be done in the short term to help Edwards. But this is a huge problem. We are being given a trust, and failing that wil lleave us where the GOP is finding itself- in the dog house.


by bruh21 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:46:35 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 3)

I'm with you, my friend.  My sentiments, word for fucking word.

I am starting to love this guy and I really believe in him now.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:48:32 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 2)

I can't say I "believe" in any candidate. I am too cynical for that. But I can say that he is saying and doing the things that are closest to 'getting' the times we live in. Any candidate who doesn't understand that we are paying twice as much for healthcare as other countries, and getting results that are worse than those same countries, should as Edwards suggests be morally outraged at whats happening. Even if one is about making money, as I am, there is no way one can do it in environment in which risk is threatened because one is paying too much for bare essentials.


by bruh21 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:01:14 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 2)

There are lots of things each of us can do.

- Letters to the Editor and Ombudsman for the paper when you see an article that is unfair or focuses on trivia rather than issues.

  • Comment on TV or paper blogs to point out what the TV or paper could have covered instead (e.g., NYT didn't cover Edwards's speech at Cooper Union even though it's right around the corner from the paper)
  • Farmers markets, fairs and festivals in each of our communities have places where political campaign hand out information and sign up volunteers. Call your local Democratic committee to find out what's coming up and what they have for a local tent.
  • Find your local One Corps or start one of your own if there isn't one close by.
  • Connect with other Edwards supporters at YearlyKos if you'll be there. Lots of folks on-line support Edwards, and you'll find lots of them in Chicago this weekend.

Hope these give you some ideas!  Welcome aboard the Edwards Express -- on our way to Denver and on to the White House!


by edgery on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:15:24 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (1.00 / 1)

JEROME IS A HILLARY SHILL!!!!!  HOW CAN NO ONE SEE IT WHEN HE WRITES DIARIES LIKE THIS ONE SAYING NICE THINGS ABOUT EDWARDS, GORE, AND DEAN?  YOU'RE ALL NAIVE FOOLS!!!!


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by Adam Conner on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:46:29 PM EST

Re: Taking on Power (none / 0)

HA!


by bruh21 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:46:56 PM EST
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Actually, I believe that we settled long ago ... (3.00 / 1)

... that the Jerome user id was hijacked by other bloggers to pursue their hidden agendas, while Jerome has been adventure touring through South America.(+)

Though as I understand it, they have chipped in to fly Jerome to yKos, to maintain the pretense.

(+ NB. "We settled long ago" means that I have repeated the claim multiple times, and it has not yet been disproven to my satisfaction. After reading blogs for a while now, I believe this is a more "modern" sense of the phrase than "a group working seriously through the evidence reached a conclusion which stands up to the scrutiny of others", which is such an old-fashioned concept.)


*John Edwards* ... and the JE08 Supporters Blog
by BruceMcF on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:47:14 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 2)

This is the John Edwards I like and respect. He needs to do much more of this.


Two licks are better than one
by Tommy Twolicks on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 06:52:33 PM EST

Re: Taking on Power (none / 0)

No kidding, where has he been. I like him to show some spirit.


by del on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 09:33:09 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 1)

This is the Edwards I saw at the Homecoming Rally in NC this past December - honest, passionate, confident.  This is the Edwards that is becoming more and more evident as citizen-journalists do the regular media's job of really telling the story of this campaign.


by edgery on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:17:45 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (none / 0)

I agree with Jerome about Gore's speech and I like Edwards despite the fact I support Obama for the nomination. This is a lot better than  some of the "advice" you give to Obama, I understand your support of Edwards and if he gets the nomination he would make for a terrific president, although Obama would make for a better one and he's the only candidate who I beleive can defeat Hillary. I'll leave it for another time what my opinion of a Hillary presidency is.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:10:33 PM EST

Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 1)

You disagree about the advice he gave againt Obama's strategist evoking Reagan in a Democratic primary?


by bruh21 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:26:23 PM EST
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Beltway Outsider? Not Hardly (3.00 / 1)

At the risk of being flamed by Edwards supporters:

Edwards said, when talking about Washington, D.C.:

The entire system is rigged. And it's rigged against you.

Portraying yourself as a Beltway outsider is a valid campaign tactic, but refresh my memory, wasn't Edwards a United States Senator for 6 years, and also a Vice-Presidential nominee? You don't become the Vice-President without having some connections to D.C. Edwards is hardly an outsider.

And if the system is so rigged, what did Edwards do as a Senator to make sure that the voice of the People was heard?


by Ken Camp on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:10:57 PM EST

Re: Beltway Outsider? Not Hardly (3.00 / 3)

Edwards was indeed a Senator for 6 years, but that at least gives him some national political experience.  Since then, he has been out of Washington for almost 3 years.  Clinton and Obama are currently in Washington.


by jsamuel on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:17:16 PM EST
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Re: Beltway Outsider? Not Hardly (3.00 / 3)

My biggest problem with your question is its unrealism. So, you think when he says we need to fight against the health insurance companies- this means his having been a US Senator who was unable to do what only a President can do, set the agenda, is a sign of what exactly?


by bruh21 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:28:24 PM EST
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You are clearly uninformed, so let me inform you (3.00 / 5)

JOHN EDWARDS IS THE OUTSIDER IN THE RACE

Why I Like John Edwards

This about sums it up - anyone who is hated by the Beltway elites is probably doing something right:

"When I did my profile of the guy, Chuck Todd, who's got a pretty good sense for these sorts of things, marveled to me, `for some reason he's pissed off half of DC. I can't tell you why, I don't know. But half of the Democratic elite here in DC just hate John Edwards. It's amazing, some of it's irrational, and the Edwards people know it and see it as a badge of honor, somewhat. Maybe they feel like it's because he didn't play ball, maybe they feel like he forced himself onto the ticket, that he was too brazen in how he campaigned for that second slot. There's no one rational reason, but there's a not insignificant clique of elites in DC who are not Edwards fans, and who are borderline irrational about it.'"

You better believe this is true if it comes from Chuck Todd - one of the original Old School Beltway Elites.

Another example:

Even though Edwards may end up being the party's nominee, prominent Democrats are surprisingly candid about him. Mark Siegel, a 35-year party insider, told me: "He came to Washington as a 'New Democrat,' but he's not that kind of Democrat anymore. He's into class warfare."

Edwards has not worn well with party colleagues. Campaign consultant Bob Shrum was enthusiastic about Edwards after working on his 1998 Senate victory in North Carolina and unsuccessfully advised Gore to make him his 2000 running mate. But Shrum chose Kerry over Edwards as his 2004 presidential client. In his newly published memoir, "No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner," Shrum explains: "I was coming to believe he wasn't ready; he was a Clinton who hadn't read the books."

During the 2004 primaries, Democratic activist James Carville was enchanted when Edwards shifted his centrist posture to a populist depiction of "Two Americas." Carville told me -- and then repeated it on CNN -- that Edwards was the best stump speaker he ever had seen. When I asked him this week whether he still thought that was true, Carville replied: "Maybe he's not as good now."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/06/06/AR2007060602288. html?referrer=emailarticle

None of the three establishments can stand John Edwards.  Not the Republican establishment, not the DLC-dominated Democratic establishment, and definitely not the establishment media.

That definitely makes John Edwards an "OUTSIDER."


by OE on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 08:45:25 PM EST
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Edwards certainly has beltway (none / 0)

experience but the beltway isn't behind his candidacy this time (wasn't last time until he was on the ticket) and isn't supporting him.


by okamichan13 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:19:51 PM EST
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Those troublesome pronouns. (3.00 / 1)

The entire system is rigged. And it's rigged against you.

Of course the game is rigged against us ... and once he made his millions, no longer rigged against John Edwards in the same way ... and of course, given the way it is rigged, before one of us could hope to overhaul the system, we would have to first make our way into the other America, and then when we did, we would have to remember that the system needs an overhaul.

I can tell you, I am not going to gain the kind of independent wealth to allow me to leapfrog into the Senate, even if it turned out that I had the political skills to make the jump ... which I am confident that I do not.


*John Edwards* ... and the JE08 Supporters Blog
by BruceMcF on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:55:54 PM EST
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Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 4)

Excellent post, Jerome.

This is what the movement is all about.  It is consistent with what you and others did in creating the progressive blogs.

For real change that will transform people lives, we must take on the powerful and fight them.

As Edwards says, not triangulation, not compromise, but fighting for real change.  


by TomP on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 10:26:51 PM EST

I like that kinda talk! (3.00 / 3)

This is exactly the kind of talk I like to hear from a candidate!


by cmpnwtr on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 11:00:30 PM EST

Odd for Obama, the (3.00 / 1)

supposed champion of using the Net to get supporters to not send someone to this.

He's missing a lot of opportunities here.


by Chaoslillith on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:29:45 AM EST

Re: Taking on Power (3.00 / 1)

Living in Ohio-02 and witnessing first hand Paul Hackett's Congressional push, I made a personal promise to never vote for another politician that doesn't at least attempt to talk like a normal fucking person.

How depressing was it to see both Al Gore and John Kerry-- good men and extraordinary politicians--turn into complete robots during their presidential runs? They "played" exactly how every coach would tell you not to. They played not to lose, instead of playing to win. John Edwards is playing to win.

I know it's a bit of a cliche by now, but look at Webb and Tester. They both talk like the guy next door. They both infuse healthy and heartfelt populism into their rhetoric--as does Howard Dean. And, surprise, surprise, the American people responded to that. They responded to Sherrod Brown as well--even though he's not the same caliber speaker as the others.

Why did they all win? I think it's simply because economic populism and tellin-it-like-it-is campaigning is a winning message. I'm glad I can cast a presidential primary (at least) vote for someone who is saying and prioritizing the things that I would be basing a campaign on. Thank you John Edwards!

Now, I feel as though Edwards needs to take it up a notch and start being a little more confrontational during the debates. Not mean, not petty, just pointing out the differences between the canidates (specifically) and giving concert examples of how his life experiences and demeanor is what we need right now. It's a tall challenge, but I think JRE has a hell of a chance to surprise a lot of people if he can do it.  


by ohiocrat on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:48:56 AM EST

This is the John Edwards I hear (none / 0)

The stop here in Memphis great, I think we will see much more of this and he is still greatly underestimated. IMO.


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by dk2 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:38:28 AM EST

Re: Taking on Power (none / 0)

Edwards' words are exactly what we want to hear, but I still get this creepy "old-school" politician vibe from him.  Edwards is smart enough to recognize powerful language and a ripe opportunity, but I doubt very seriously that he will bring about ANY sort of change.  Maybe I need to police my own overwhelming scepticism toward US politicians, but why isn't there yet one 2008 presidential candidate that I've met that I feel in my gut is on the side of the American people?  Is Edwards the best candidate we've been offered?  Probably.  Sorta like the "lesser-of-two-evils" talk in the 2000 presidential election.  Edwards is right, our country's government infrastructure is broken, and if he can honestly bring about change for the US, with dignity and integrity, then I'm all for him.  I still feel skeptical, though...


by Indigowatcher on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 12:10:00 PM EST


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