The Pentagon: Yet Another Political Arm Of The Republican Party

Via mcjoan, The AP is reporting that on Monday, Undersecretary of Defense (and former Cheney aide) Eric Edelman sent Sen. Hillary Clinton a letter criticizing her for

privately and publicly [pushing Secretary of Defense Robert] Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace two months ago to begin drafting the plans for what she said will be a complicated withdrawal of troops, trucks and equipment.

"If we're not planning for it, it will be difficult to execute it in a safe and efficacious way," she said then.

In typical 'dissent is anti-American' fashion, Edelman wrote:

"Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia," Edelman wrote.

He added that "such talk understandably unnerves the very same Iraqi allies we are asking to assume enormous personal risks."

Classic that the Pentagon would insinuate itself into the presidential campaign in this way, not so subtly questioning Sen. Clinton's patriotism and, ultimately, her fitness to be commander in chief. What else do we expect from a crowd that thinks even drafting a Plan B for Iraq is treasonous.

Clinton's camp hit back:

"Redeploying out of Iraq with the same combination of arrogance and incompetence with which the Bush administration deployed our young men and women into Iraq is completely unacceptable, and our troops deserve far better," said Reines, who said military leaders should offer a withdrawal plan rather than "a political plan to attack those who question them."



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funny thing is (3.00 / 1)

if you took the Pentagon text you just quoted and put that side by side with comparable Clinton commentary on Iraq from three months ago, I wouldn't be able to tell which was which.

No wonder the Pentagon is pissed. They probably feel betrayed. lol


by jforshaw on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 05:49:03 PM EST

Re: funny thing is (none / 0)

Is this the best comment you could come up with? Did you think your joke was funny? LOL!


by bsavage on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 06:02:53 PM EST
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Nice political gift. (none / 0)

Wow...talk about wrapped up in a nice bow.  Is there anything the Clinton team would want more than a broadside from the Bush Pentagon?  It allows her to slam back and build up her anti-war cred all at the same time.

This will gain her huge props in the blogosphere.  If I was on her rapid response team, I'd be positively giddy getting that response out.  Howard Wolfson probably can't contain himself right now...


by rashomon on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 06:14:05 PM EST

Re: Nice political gift. (none / 0)

And the thing about it is that no one will legitimately be able to say she is pandering because she has led on this issue as the letter hwc posted demonstrates.


by DoIT on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 06:54:14 PM EST
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Re: Nice political gift. (none / 0)

Then she'd better hit them.

Hard.


by Bush Bites on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:17:07 PM EST
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Re: Nice political gift. (3.00 / 1)

Somehow I don't think that will be a problem.


by DoIT on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:31:22 PM EST
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Re: Nice political gift. (none / 0)

Perhaps you're right--but there is something scary about this.  To the Bush Administration if you disagree with him you are just so much dung.  No matter if you are the United Nations, The Democratic Congressional Majority or a Presidential Candidate.  Bush does not choose his fights wisely--he just fights everyone in order to show that he is the King of the World.


by changehorses08 on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 02:26:47 PM EST
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Text of Clinton request to Gates & Pace (none / 0)

Here is the text of the letter Senator Clinton wrote to Sec. Gates and General Pace last May asking them to brief the appropriate Congressional Committees on contingency planning for a troop reduction in Iraq (emphasis added):

The Honorable Robert M. Gates
Secretary of Defense
The United States Department of Defense
The Pentagon
Suite 319
Washington, D.C. 20301

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Given the express will of the Congress to implement a phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq and the importance of proper contingency planning to achieve that goal, I write to request that you provide the appropriate oversight committees in Congress - including the Senate Armed Services Committee - with briefings on what current contingency plans exist for the future withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. Alternatively, if no such plans exist, please provide an explanation for the decision not to engage in such planning.

The seeds of many problems that continue to plague our troops and mission in Iraq were planted in the failure to adequately plan for the conflict and properly equip our men and women in uniform. Congress must be sure that we are prepared to withdraw our forces without any unnecessary danger.

At a Department of Defense operational update which you hosted earlier this month, you were asked whether contingency plans were being developed in the event that a future assessment concludes the surge is not working. In response, you noted that efforts at the Department of Defense included detailed planning and consideration of operational alternatives, but that "it's more of just broader conceptual thinking." General Pace reiterated that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had not received orders to prepare contingency plans.

Yesterday, however, it was reported that your Iraqi counterpart, Defense Minister Abdul-Qader al-Obeidi is preparing plans in the event that the United States and its forces departed Iraq quickly, reviewing worst-case scenarios, and conducting meetings with Iraq's political leadership on this issue.

In light of growing violence and insecurity in Iraq, the continued lack of political progress by Prime Minister al-Maliki, the Iraqi Defense Ministry's level of contingency planning, and the will of the American Congress to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq, it is imperative that the Department of Defense prepare plans for the phased redeployment of U.S. forces. As you well know, any military operation requires contingency planning so that the military and our troops are prepared if the current plan is unsuccessful. It would be irresponsible not to engage in similar planning in Iraq.

Thank you for looking into this matter. I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely yours,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

CC: General Peter Pace, USMC
Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff

http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statement s/details.cfm?id=274922&&


by hwc on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 06:28:17 PM EST

Re: The Pentagon (none / 0)

I really don't think most of America realizes how politicized the Pentegon has become.  I think people still support our generals and anything "coming from the pentagon" - I do not think this is good for Hillary's GE efforts.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 07:05:12 PM EST

Re: The Pentagon (none / 0)

Well, this is Hillary's chance to light it up.

I hope she has the guts to take it to the next level and tell the country all about it.

Both her supporters and those who aren't her supporters will stand squarely behind her if she does.

Go for it, Hillary.


by Bush Bites on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:03:58 PM EST
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Re: The Pentagon (1.00 / 1)

that's why I think thsi whole thing was set up, got to give Mark Penn some credit.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:19:01 PM EST
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Re: The Pentagon (3.00 / 2)

You  know, that is the most partisan, anti Democratic party comment I have heard in a while. It is sickening that you would even state such nonsense. What the Pentagon has done is a direct threat to our democracy. Rather than join with everyone else to fight back you play this conspiracy theory bullshit to tear down a campaign you don't support. Shit like this eliminates differences between Democrats. It requires us to stand tall together, not start tearing some of us down.


by DoIT on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:40:01 PM EST
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waaaaah (1.00 / 1)

Hillary Clinton leaked a detail out of  private Senate Armed Services Committee briefing so that she could get some bullshit antiwar credibility that she sorely needs. The Pentagon is pissed.

Note that the Pentagon has NOT criticized Obama or Edwards for making much more emphatic statements on the subject. So,

1) The way in which Hillary made her statement, i.e., leaking out classified information, as opposed to stating an opinion without revealing anything, really pissed the Pentagon off.

2) Clinton is the only candidate the Pentagon takes seriously enough to merit a riposte; Obama and Edwards have made much more "undermining" statements without getting Pentagon criticism.

3) The Pentagon wants to help Clinton out.

Any way you slice it, Clinton is being an overpolicitized POS.


by jforshaw on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 11:14:39 PM EST
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Re: waaaaah (none / 0)

Yeah, because Edwards and Obama both wrote letters to the Pentagon asking for the plans for withdrawl.  I don't think the Pentagon is in the habit of responding to rhetoric on the campaign trail.  Instead, here they're responding directly to a letter that Clinton sent them with an honest question - what is our plan for withdrawl?  There has to be a plan somewhere...they're not just going to send a million planes and hope for the best.


by Conquest on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 11:59:54 AM EST
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Re: The Pentagon (none / 0)

I totally agree.  I think people like that are paid by the Republican Party to infiltrate our blogs, or they spend too much time watching Fox News.


by changehorses08 on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 02:28:54 PM EST
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Re: The Pentagon: Yet Another Political Arm (3.00 / 1)

I'm not crazy about Hillary and I think her supporters are obnoxious.

But Bush's hacks in the Pentagon can go screw themselves.

If they weren't so incompetent, she wouldn't have to ask such questions.


by Bush Bites on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 07:49:43 PM EST

Re: The (none / 0)

I think this whole this is a setup....the Bush whitehousez love deflecting thier failures by batlling Hillary and the Clintons. It helps bring them back in the eyes of the base in thier party and to get hom from 30 to 40 in the polls for Hillary this is great for her attempt o basically become the "leader" of democrats and the stop the war crowd, well done guys, this is the general election camapign if Hillary is the nominee so we may as well start early. Any fuckups by Bush were the Clinton's fault, we can only hope Obama can break this cycle.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:18:02 PM EST

Re: The (1.00 / 1)

a win/win for both Bush and Clinton, and who thought these two families weren't close?


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:20:19 PM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

This goes beyond the primaries.

This is standing together and saying Bush and his crooked, incompetent minions aren't going to get away with their smears like they did in 2004.


by Bush Bites on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:37:45 PM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

I agree I jsut think this was set up for the mutual benifit of both of them. a bit like Bush and Bin-Laden needed each other to boost thier poltical fortunes following 9/11-----Bush being Al-Queda's best recuiting tool.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:51:52 PM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

You are a sad sad person


by world dictator on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 11:50:02 PM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

I don't trust anything the Clinton campaign does , especially with peiople such as Wolfson and Penn. They have played to many games in the past . How can I trust someone who is so calculating and triangulating.

They have released this for political purposes.


by BDM on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 12:07:04 AM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

So how do you trust any politician? I love these people who act like some politicians are political and others are not. HA. Okay. It really is laughable.

This is why people reject this washington insider establishment conspiracy theories.


by world dictator on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 10:47:09 AM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

And who are you, nevadadem, and Bushwhatever going to vote for?  Obama, the politician from Illinois who has yet to stand for anything in the Senate except sweeping rehetoric about change, while allowing his supporters to play dirty politics "without his knowledge"?  Or Edwards, the former ambulance chaser pandering to the base and trying to change the subject to poverty because he knows no one else will care about it and because he knows he doesn't have enough knowledge or experience to talk about Health Care (Hillary's territory) or Iraq (Obama's territory)?

No, I bet it's Kucinich, the former conservative turned flaming liberal because that's where he can get some attention from.  Or maybe it's everyone's favorite Nader, the most egotistical man in the political arena today, who became irrelevant 25 years ago and along with Al Gore (whose newfound celebrity doesn't hide who he was during the Clinton Whitehouse) helped to give us this ugly mess we're now in?


by Conquest on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 12:06:16 PM EST
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Re: The (none / 0)

Look at the polls -- instead of watching mainstream media.  She is getting more popular everyday.  Do you think Republican operative Floyd Brown would produce an anti Hillary movie if they didn't think she could win?  


by changehorses08 on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 02:31:25 PM EST
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credit where it's due (1.00 / 1)

The more it's Clinton  v/sBush the better it is for both Republicans and Hillary, this has Rove and Penn's fingerprints all over it. Just like with the pardon's it's in Bush's interest too make everything about Hillary and the Clinton's and for Hillary it's a batting practice softball, brilliant.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:49:39 PM EST

Re: credit where it's due (none / 0)

I really have tried to take you seriously and respect your opinion but you have demonstrated quite clearly that you are just a/an (fill in the blank). But whatever you add it ain't nice, progressive or productive.


by DoIT on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 08:59:01 PM EST
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Re: The Pentagon: Yet Another Political Arm (none / 0)

This is going to be a problem for ANY Democratic president.  The Pentagon has for far too long set the agenda for defense and foreign policy.  They set Bill up right after he came into office on the Don't Ask Don't Tell and he never managed to gain control.  Saint Colin Powell made sure that there was no effective civilian control of the nutcases running the military and of course the Bushies put Dr. Strangelove in charge.  If we win in 2008 we need to make sure there are massive amounts of "retirements" or the nut jobs will continue to run amok.  The current push to increase army and marine troop levels is just insane.  This has got to stop.


by Demo Dan in Dayton on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 09:07:52 PM EST

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That's the beauty of Clinton's experience on the Senate Armed Services Committee. She has developed contacts deep within the Pentagon and enjoys the respect of the officer corps.

She knows the frustrations the military has faced with Rumsfeld and the rest of the Bush toadies. Trust me, nobody in the Pentagon wanted to occupy Iraq with half the troops necessary to do the job. And, every general who dared do their duty and express reservations got fired.

Clinton will have a lot of allies in the military establishment when she takes office. And, in the meantime, the officers positioning themselves for top slots better figure they are auditioning for their jobs in planning an effective redeployment from Iraq. Bush is a lameduck for them, too.


by hwc on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 09:25:18 PM EST
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the funny thing is Hillary used this tack herself (none / 0)

with the my state suffered in 9/11 thing when questioned about her Iraq war vote, some dems stood up to this type of crap in 2002 and some didn't, I'm glad more are doing so now.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 09:12:54 PM EST

And what about the Drug Czar? (none / 0)

Drug czar deployed for GOP, papers show

Documents suggest a coordinated effort to help boost vulnerable candidates by using an official legally barred from political activities.

By James Gerstenzang, Times Staff Writer
July 18, 2007

John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, attended 20 programs -- round-table discussions, tours, a town hall meeting and other antidrug events -- with Republican candidates from New Jersey to California.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/ nation/la-na-drugczar18jul18,0,2737917.s tory?coll=la-tot-national&track=ntot html

I'm sure Czar Walters orchestrated bull sessions of deliberate deceptions with repeated attacks on cannabis, American values, such as good government, the care and happiness of the people, and not their destruction.

Perhaps ONDCP should be renamed the Office of Lies, Damned Lies, and Drug War Statistics (OLDLDWS). At least it would be more honest. Maybe that would be a better name for ONDCP's website.

I doubt that it was mentioned that the cannabis plant has been around for some 500 million years; that its cannabinoids (especially THC) fit human cannabinoid receptors in the brain like a key.

Nor was it probably mentioned that cannabis has played an instrumental role in human evolution over the past 10,000 years.

Neither was it likely mentioned that cannabis was used extensively in human healing, spiritual insight, providing clothing, shelter, weaponry, fuel for heating, oil for lighting and spiritual anointing and healing.

It's doubtful it was mentioned that government fears any knowledge about cannabis. So it refuses to let American universities grow, test and develop cannabis for its many uses.

Was it pointed out that Czar Walter's job is to suppress any knowledge pertaining to cannabis?


by Hempy on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 10:38:23 PM EST

Re: The Pentagon: Yet Another Political Arm Of The (none / 0)

karl rove is a disease of unimaginable consequence to America.

democrats should be forewarned that the elections of 2008 are not going to be just democrats versus republicans, but also democrats verses THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

My predication is that democrats WILL NOT BE PREPARED FOR THIS, that democrats are studiously strategizing their campaigns around running against republicans without any forethought as to how to counter the workings of the Federal Government against them a.k.a., Kerry swiftboating part II Xtreme.
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by gak on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 08:17:46 AM EST

Re: The Pentagon: Yet Another Political Arm Of The (none / 0)

Well said--Its my fear too.


by changehorses08 on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 02:33:37 PM EST
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