Obama's Growing Organization and Average Burn-Rates (Updates)

The most interesting information to come out of the second quarter reports is that Obama is on the verge of building a massive organization --- with a much lower burn rate than any of his competitors and with a much more sustainable fundraising apparatus than any of his competitors.  In other words, Obama's campaign has been quietly and steadily working to set up an organization that might surpass any we've seen in primary politics.
Why?  Follow me after the jump...

1. Field Offices and Camp Obama

According to the new second quarter reports, Obama is spending substantially more on staff than any candidate in either party.  Where is the money going?  
From the Politico:

His largest expense in the quarter was $3.2 million for salaries [psericks: Other news organizations are listing $5.9 million], which ranks his organization among the largest in either party. He also has expanded his reach on the campaign primary map by opening offices in California and Nevada, a new early primary state.

The image that emerges from the report is that of a massive organization in the making and one that, unlike many other candidates, can be sustained by the fundraising prowess of the candidate.

Obama has already set up 28 field offices in Iowa, almost double the number of any other Democratic candidate in the field, allowing his campaign more reach throughout Iowa.  Here's an article from the Washington Post:

All told, the six leading candidates for the Democratic nomination have 79 field offices in Iowa, according to Carrie Giddins -- the indefatigable communications director of the state party.

Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) leads the way with a whopping 28 offices -- a testament to the grass-roots organizational strategy associated with Iowa state director Paul Tewes. Former senator John Edwards ( N.C.), who many people believe must win in Iowa to have a chance at the nomination, has 15 field offices. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) checks in with 12, followed by New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, with 11. Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) has eight, while Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.) has five."


Obama has also been able to fund activist-training sessions like Camp Obama, which over the course of the summer will train around 2,000 interns to be dispatched to the early primary states or to work out of the headquarters in Chicago.
In other words, we're starting to get a picture of what Obama's campaign is going to look like and just what kind of advantage his fundraising is going to provide him.  He is going to have the funds for a great ground game in Iowa.

2. Average Burn Rates from Marc Ambinder
Obama spent more total than any other candidate, and this might be a cause for worry for the campaign as it seems to be spending an incredible amount of money.  Here's a quick chart of expenses from the second quarter:

Democrats:    
Obama       $16,042,388
Clinton       $12,769,306
Edwards     $6,485,422
Richardson  $4,983,067

However, as Marc Ambinder notes, Obama is actually spending at a much lower rate than his rivals --- and it is not only lower but substantially lower.  Obama is banking a much higher percentage of the funds he raises.  I made a chart of Ambinder's burn rates for the candidates:

Democrats:          
Obama       %53          
Clinton       %73          
Edwards     %74        
Richardson  %71
Biden          %104
Dodd           %133

Republicans:
Guiliani       %74
Romney       %100 (w/o personal funds)
McCain       %128

More from Ambinder:

In Obama's case, that's $16M spent + 0.92M debt divided by $32M raised -- or 53%.

Even though Obama spent more than Clinton -- either a little if you count debt or a lot -- he managed to keep half of what we took in. His fundraising will simmer down a bit in the third quarter, but it's fairly easy to imagine that he'll gave $25M or so in the bank come January, which will give him more than enough money to blanket the early (and later) primary states with those biographical ads that Obama's team loves to make.

Clinton burned through 73 cents out of every primary dollar she raised. That's a lot, but it's still an impressive figure. John Edwards spent 74 cents out of every dollar raised; Bill Richardson spent about 71 cents for every dollar raised.

3. Sustainability through Small Donors

The campaigns are releasing much more detailed figures about their fundraising in the second quarter.  Here are some charts of combined Q1 and Q2 fundraising from the New York Times:
Obama Donations
Under $200:      $16,545,600
$200 to $2,299:  $18,376,190
$2,300 (max):    $23,684,000

Clinton Donations
Under $200:      $4,633,860
$200 to $2,299:  $13,946,810
$2,300 (max):    $33,958,100

You'll notice that although Clinton raises about 50% more from the maximum donation level, Obama makes up the difference by raising more than three times Clinton in small donations.  
In other words, Clinton has relied much more heavily on donors maxing out to her campaign than Obama has, while on the other hand, John Edwards also beat her among small-dollar donations by raising $5,438,940.  

In short, Obama is building an organization that maximizes reach and sustainability.  

Update [2007-7-16 15:39:32 by psericks]: LA Times has some interesting comparisons:
- "The Illinois Democrat disclosed that $9.7 million of the $33 million he raised in the second quarter of 2007 came in increments of less than $200" --- that's almost a third
- Obama's share from low-dollar dollars increased significantly:
In an indication that he is raising large sums from small donors, about 45% of Obama's money came in increments of less than $1,000 in the second quarter. In the first 90 days of the year, 32% of his money came in sums of less than $1,000. Clinton, by contrast, raised 86% of her money from large donors in the first quarter. About 90% of Giuliani's money comes from donors who gave $1,000 or more.

- "Obama has shown unprecedented fundraising strength, pulling in $360,000 a day during the second quarter, of which $100,000 came in small donations."

On a side note, the Rocky Mountain News is reporting that Obama outraised other Democrats in Colorado two to one. (h/t official Obama blogger Alex MacCallum ) One of these days I'd like to pull out a calculator and work out Obama's totals by region. He seemed to do much better in the South this quarter --- was much more competitive with Edwards, perhaps because of his big events in Atlanta and Florida.

Associated Press:
Obama, however, retained an advantage over Clinton in the number of donors who could still give to his campaign. About $3 our of every $7 raised by Obama's campaign for the primary came from donors who have given the maximum $2,300 donation permitted by law. For Clinton, about three-fifths of her primary donations come from maxed-out donors.


Update [2007-7-16 16:4:22 by psericks]:: How is Obama going to sustain his small-dollar donation base? His campaign is now turning to focus on recurring monthly donations, asking supporters to sign up for a monthly $15 contribution. It's a nice strategy. The graphic reads: Help Sustain This Movement. From David Plouffe:
Right now you can do that by making a personal commitment to support Barack Obama every month until he's the Democratic nominee. The small group of people who join you -- making an automatic monthly donation of whatever they can afford -- will be a core of supporters providing a foundation that will sustain this campaign...

Be one of the first to make a small monthly commitment to sustain this campaign. With just $15 per month, you can provide the base for a campaign to change politics once and for all:

So it’s up to you to make that commitment and sustain our movement with a regular, monthly donation:

https://donate.barackobama.com/monthly

Second, the rules of this contest have not been finalized. The primary calendar is still in flux, and a number of states have already moved up their primaries and caucuses earlier than ever before.

In order to win the nomination, we may have to compete in what amounts to a national primary on February 5th. As this shift continues, we will need to expand our ground operations to remain competitive.

We can build a nationwide operation and compete everywhere -- but it's going to take an unprecedented level of resources and sound financial management.

Without your generosity we could never have made it this far. But now, by signing up to donate a small amount each month, you can provide the consistent base of support on which the campaign will make crucial decisions...


Update [2007-7-16 15:21:6 by psericks]: Here's an interesting, albeit dated (May 27th) run-down of Obama's staff in Iowa: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obamaorgia.html

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Re: Obama's Growing Organization (3.00 / 1)

This is a great diary and one of the aspects of a campaign that isn't often covered in any detail.

I hope your evaluation holds true as I would like to feel that our money is safe in the hands of an Obama presidency.  After being involved in the Dean campaign and knowing Dean, I was surprised at the fact that, when all was said and done, the money was gone.  I still believe it was due to the poor judgement on Dean's part to believe that he had a staff that knew how to budget the money.  Maybe I'm wrong but Trippi's friend's commercials cost alot more than they were effective.  


No Quacks, please.
by noquacks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:09:17 PM EST

Re: Obama's Growing Organization (none / 0)

Obama has "financial folk" on his finance team.  Believe me, they know what they are doing with this money.  You see they were totally disciplined before the release of the figures.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:31:33 PM EST
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Hillary won't close the gap with Obama (none / 0)

Not when it comes to small donors but I think she will do better.  I am getting far more email bulletins than before (basically a request for a donation).  

You are also seeing them try to use the internet more with their Sopranos spoof and their announcement today of the Wilson endorsement.


by dpANDREWS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:21:11 PM EST

I like Hillary, (3.00 / 0)

but she need to get on the beans and frank circuit and get the small donors fired up for her.  There is NO DOUBT, that on Obama's side, he has done just that.  This is a campaign that is financially disciplined and do not send out many direct mailers or emails for money.  But when they do, as we saw with the "Dinner for Barack", people respond and in force.  That is what is missing from Hillary's campaign.  You can tap rich folk all day and all night, but there are more poor folk than rich.  And the strength of Obama's campaign, has shown it.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:35:25 PM EST
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and the Wilson endorsement, (3.00 / 0)

was all about the netroots.  She is not the most liked, she is not.  You see it on all the boards.  She is trying to change that.  She is going to YKos, and was the last to announce.  My personal opinion, she was not going to go, to let it slide, but the massive amount of funds, committment by the Obama campaign from his donors.  She has no choice.  She is playing catch up, right now.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:37:22 PM EST
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Re: and the Wilson endorsement, (none / 0)

She is going to Kos because this party is turning MORE ANTI-WAR as each day passes.  This is about apeasing to the left, nothing else.  That segment is growing, not diminishing.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:18:51 PM EST
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Movement Building (3.00 / 1)


Obama has also been able to fund activist-training sessions like Camp Obama, which over the course of the summer will train around 2,000 interns to be dispatched to the early primary states or to work out of the headquarters in Chicago.

Reading things like this makes me smile.  Even if he doesn't win the nomination, it is things like this that campaign do that build a movement.  Like Dean did with his supporters(spinning it into DFA) one has to assume that these 2000 people, even if Obama losses, will stay involved with Democratic Politics.  With the knowledge and skills gained by their training intact.

I sincerely hope that other candidates are doing this rather than blowing all their Cash on massive, yet ineffective, Ad buys.


by maddogg on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:22:15 PM EST

Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

I saw recently in IA that Obama has opened up 28 field offices as compared to 15 for Edwards AND 12 for Clinton.

Remember Obama's statewide campaign head is the same person who headed up Kerry's campaign IN 2004 AND LED HIM TO VICTORY.


by BDM on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:43:47 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

edwards and hillary has to be a bit worry by how fast Obama is building his support in Iowa and my guess is Obama will prompt them to pick up their pace which mean Obama will dictate the flow of this race.

Also, i had eard that Edwards had the most fild office in Iowa..That that this means that yu will win, but i'm sure it is important for your campaign to be visible everywhere possible....

I think someone had written on this blog that Edwards had 99 field offices in Iowa?...If not, i'm surprised that Obama has more field offices in Iowa then Edwards since he's been there for 4 years now...Is it a money issue??


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:48:11 PM EST
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re-write (none / 0)

I meant...I had heard that Edwards had the best ground organization in Iowa with about 99 field office across Iowa..Did that change because Obama has now more field offices open in Iowa then everybody?


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:50:48 PM EST
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Re: re-write (none / 0)

The article I quote in my diary is from July 15th in the Washington Post, co-written by Chris Cillizza.  It notes 28 fields offices for Obama and 15 for Edwards.


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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 08:02:17 PM EST
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Edwards has volunteer co-chairs (none / 0)

in all 99 counties (most counties have two, some have three or four volunteer co-chairs). He does not have offices in all 99 counties. I don't know the exact number, but 15 sounds about right.

28 field offices is a LOT of offices in Iowa. I give Obama credit for getting his people out there and working hard outside the major metro areas and college towns.


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by desmoinesdem on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 04:08:57 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

Makes sense.  Ideally he's trying to create a ground game that the other candidates can't easily immitate as he's "setting the standard" for spending in some of the early states.  Including Iowa.  If Obama masters a ground game, Edwards takes 2nd due to his core Iowa support, Hillary flops in third... That could end her campaign...  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 08:01:17 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

That is what is going to happen here.  AD BUYS, instead of building an infrastructure, to get folks to the caucuses and GOTV.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:38:25 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

Do you have any evidence that any of the candidates are going to do that, or are you just venting?


by maddogg on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:23:58 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

Did you read correctly, that is what the candidates are going to do?  If you read the thread, with all these states "front loading", it is not going to be feasible to make a presence in all these states.  You must pick your battles and try to win them.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:34:35 PM EST
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Re: Movement Building (none / 0)

Ok, I see your point now.  It was unclear before.  You're probably right, but it is worth praising efforts to get away from that.


by maddogg on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:28:32 PM EST
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Camp Obama (3.00 / 2)

The campaign has just announced 4 more Camp Obama training dates:

July 27 | Burbank, CA

August 10 | St. Louis, MO

August 17 | New York City, NY

August 24 | Atlanta, GA

These are three-day sessions for people who want a more in-depth volunteer role in the campaign.


by Doug This Week on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:41:42 PM EST

Re: Camp Obama (none / 0)

Thanks for posting.  I'd heard rumors that Camp Obama was going to go on the road.  I didn't realize it would be happening so soon!


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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:50:40 PM EST
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Re: Camp Obama (none / 0)

Why dont they just open up a camp Obama in all those cities instead of doing it for a few days, then leave...Makes more sense to keep them open and built camp-obama nationwide.

Anyway, i had heard people flying from all the way to the east coast/west/south coast to attend camp-obama in chicago...Can you believe it?


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:54:46 PM EST
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Re: Camp Obama (none / 0)

Who knows, they may be doing this repeatedly.  Let's wait and see.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:05:26 PM EST
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Re: Camp Obama (none / 0)

Usually they have pretty substantial staff members come give talks at the Camp Obama trainings.  It would be hard for them to do too many trainings around the country simultaneously.  But who knows, maybe they'll find a way.


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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:12:54 PM EST
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Obama's Growing Money Machine (none / 0)

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/7/14/1034 47/329


by blues on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:07:28 PM EST

This is an excellent diary... (none / 0)

again, totally to the point.  Totally recommended.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:30:21 PM EST

Re: Obama's Growing Organization and Average Burn- (none / 0)

Those burn rate numbers you quote are confusing because they are just based on Obama's huge Q2 fundraising.  Burn rate is usually based on how much money you have total, not how much you took in in that quarter.  And, by that measure, Obama is burning case faster than Clinton.


by markjay on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:39:18 PM EST

Burn Rate (3.00 / 0)

I think the numbers have value: It refers to Obama's "savings rate" in a given quarter --- it answers the question as to whether he is taking in more than he is spending.
Marc Ambinder explains average burn rate as "calculated by adding the money spent plus debt, and dividing that by the amount of money raised for the primary elections."
I'm not sure what you mean by how much money you have total?  So you mean the amount spent divided by the amount left over from the first quarter plus the amount raised in the second?  Is that different from Ambinder?
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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:51:08 PM EST
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Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

Seriously, think about it for a minute.

n.b. Nearly one third of Clinton's cash on hand was transferred over from her Senate account.


by Ramo on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:52:48 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

You are right, and Obama has totally surpassed that and her donors, which I have not read anywhere.  How many were there?


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:03:51 PM EST
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Good question! (none / 0)

You know, I actually don't know how many donors Clinton had.  Has she still not released the number?  It's surprising no one has noticed that it didn't come out.  
There'll be the question as to whether Edwards beat Clinton in number of donors or not.
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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:27:18 PM EST
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Re: Good question! (none / 0)

Obama had 16M+ from donors under $200; Clinton 3.9M

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/16/ 155836/361


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:37:08 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

Does anyone know the answer to this?


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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:38:56 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

I gave you a link to additional information, the total number of donors, has not been released.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:51:12 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

Technically 1/5 of her cash.  (10 million + 40 million primary cash = 50 million.)


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:18:47 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

Her general election cash is utterly irrelevant, and it's pointless for anyone bringing it up until Feb 5.  And her primary cash on hand actually is $32.6 million ($29.6 million if you take into account debts).

http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx? ReleaseID=155


by Ramo on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:32:21 PM EST
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Re: Your comment makes absolutely no sense. (none / 0)

Clinton had 45M in the bank, Obama 36M

Obama can use 33M for primaries, I don't know the full take on Clinton, but she raised 21.5M for primaries.  So, she is behind for primary cash.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:38:38 PM EST
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Loads of positive info. (3.00 / 0)

Obama is really building this campaign to unprecedented levels. This guy who had no infrastructure before the race is totally reinventing how to campaign.
Obama Citizen Ad Videos
by lovingj on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:00:38 PM EST

Burn-Rates (Updates) (none / 0)

"reinventing how to campaign"

Old school grassroots powerhouse.  That's how he's reinventing how to campaign.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:19:58 PM EST

Re: Burn-Rates (Updates) (none / 0)

only taking it to a national level.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:39:29 PM EST
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Here is another tidbit... (none / 0)

Here are a few more interesting numbers regarding the Dem candidates:

- Barack Obama famously out raised Hillary Clinton, but he would have more cash on hand as well had Clinton not carried over about $10 million from her 2006 senate bid.

  • Obama has been spending considerably more than Hillary in addition to raising more. He has spent 27 percent more for the first half of the year.
  • Mike Gravel has $31,000 cash on hand but $65,000 in debt, making him the only Democrat with a net negative bank account.
  • Four Democrats saw increases in contributions from first quarter to second (Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel) while four saw decreases (Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden).

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncent ral/2007/jul/16/second_quarter_president ial_fundraising_summary


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:02:21 PM EST

Re: Here is another tidbit... (none / 0)

I thought it was strange that tpmcafe election central would highlight that Obama has less cash on hand because of Clinton's $10 million transfer, when actually it has less to do with her transfer as with her inflating her numbers through raising money for the general election.
In primary funds in the bank, Obama is leading, and this is really the only measure that counts.
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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:46:08 PM EST
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Re: Here is another tidbit... (none / 0)

Oh, here is a link:

http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx? ReleaseID=155

Obama had 56,800 individual donor contributors
Clinton had 39,400 individual donor contributors

At least this is how I am reading it.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:55:48 PM EST
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Re: Here is another tidbit... (none / 0)

Those are dollar amounts, 56.8 million from individual donors. Hillary has 39.4 million from individuals because she has 500,000 from PACs and then 10 million from her Senate campaign.


by Doug This Week on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:03:41 PM EST
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Re: Here is another tidbit... (none / 0)

thanks for clearing that up, now we have to wait until the final donor tally, come out.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:20:28 PM EST
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Re: Here is another tidbit... (3.00 / 1)

I was surprised to see the similarity between Edwards & McCain's numbers.  Edwards raised 1 million more in Q1 and 2.5 million less in Q2.  The big difference is in the amount they've spent where McCain has outspent Edwards by 12 million since the start.  The big story of course is McCain's cash on hand amount but actually it is only 9 million less than Romney and 16 less than Guiliani.  By comparison, Edwards cash on hand is almost 23 million less than Obama.  


by Doug This Week on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:56:49 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Growing Organization and Average Burn- (none / 0)

Obama/Clark...that is a winner


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:21:05 PM EST

Re: Obama's Growing Organization and Average Burn- (none / 0)

Obama/Boxer


by Doug This Week on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:24:10 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Growing Organization and Average Burn- (none / 0)

Boxer is da BOMB!!!


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:48:28 PM EST
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Donors list (none / 0)

I'm still waiting for the donor list and what's amazing is the reluctance of the Clinton campaign to release them.

So far, the numbers are showing a large slice of her money is coming from big donors which means she probably had less success attracting small donors...Is it farfetch to believe she didnt break 100k donors like Edwards did??

In my opinion, this has got to worry them for Q3-4....I thought she had this amazing donor list that Bill Clinton cultivated during his years in the White House...Were they all big donors?

Also, of Clintons supporters kept telling me she had this large 200k donor list and she wasnt tapping into it...Anyone believe she would not tap into such a list??..Thats ridiculous...Why would you not tap into it since you're in an all out war with Obama on the money front and needs as much money possible.

I expect Obama to blow her out in Q3 by about $10 mill.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 08:07:47 PM EST

Emily's list (none / 0)

It's also interesting given that Clinton has the endorsement of Emily's List and NOW, both of which have huge mailing lists.  
It's strange that Clinton hasn't been able to translate all of those lists into some larger small donor numbers.
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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 08:28:12 PM EST
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Good point (none / 0)

You would think that Emily's list would pretty much built some type of large donor list to rival Obama's.

I never thought those groups were as powerful as they claimed to be anyway.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 08:43:26 PM EST
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Re: Good point (none / 0)

Just because they are on Emily's List, I am, don't mean they are going to contribute to Hillary Clinton.  And many are working women, who may not even be tuned into this yet.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:08:30 PM EST
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A number of people (none / 0)

have actually taken themselves off those lists since they endorsed Clinton - anecdotal anyways.


by okamichan13 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:45:08 PM EST
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I quit Emily's list (none / 0)

when they endorsed Clinton, and I made sure to tell the people there why I was asking to be removed from their list.


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by desmoinesdem on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 04:11:28 PM EST
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Re: Donors list (none / 0)

She did have less small donors, that has already been established.  She need to start doin' the beans & franks fundraisers, along with the chitlin' route.  This is how Obama started, many turned their noses, now look who is lookin' now.  She got to step up her small donor base, I can not believe she let this slide for 2 quarters in a row.


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by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:07:36 PM EST
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I think we are starting to see (none / 0)

a rather large hole in her campaign.

Her small donor base among regular folks also doesn't bode well for her get out the vote efforts especially in Iowa.


by okamichan13 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:43:59 PM EST
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Re: I think we are starting to see (none / 0)

I would love to see who has gotten the most small donor money in Iowa and NH...That should be interesting.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 10:15:46 PM EST
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Re: Donors list (none / 0)

It's one thing to have a smaller dollar event, but to make it lucrative you need to have large turn out.  The advantage that Obama have in having small dollar events is his ability to attract large crowds.


by Jalenth on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 11:32:27 PM EST
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I think he will too (none / 0)

barring unforseen events.

Also think your other diary hit it right on the head - she isn't releasing her total donor numbers because its bad news, in fact I bet her small donor donor numbers went down.

Good news for Obama and Edwards.


by okamichan13 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:49:18 PM EST
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Re: I think he will too (none / 0)

It is already documented that her small donor list was that, small.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 10:17:41 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Growing Organization (none / 0)

Obama/Batiste


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:21:35 PM EST

Emily's List ?? (none / 0)

What the HELL is that? (I should come out of the batcave more often.)

I am basically allergic to gigantic numbers that look like statistics. A year ago this Obama guy was as well known to me as, well, the mayor of Peoria IL. (I have no idea who that is...) Now he's up and running with $30 million? Why am I so paranoid about things like this?


by blues on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:50:48 PM EST

Re: Emily's List ?? (none / 0)

Thats what makes Obama's political rize inside the democratic party so scary...Bill Clinton who was suppose to be the fundraiser and chief of the democratic party,got his butt kicked by Obama's machine.

Ive told folks to forget about those national polls and keep your eyes on Iowa and the des moine register..In my opinion, the race will flip upside down after Iowa.

The good thing for Obama and Edwards is, Iowanz seems to not care about Hillary's domination in those national polls and they will not hand Hillary anything..She will have to earn it...Trotting bill clinton to iowa is not going to win her anything..As far as they are concern, Bill is not running.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 10:22:28 PM EST
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Re: Emily's List ?? (none / 0)

Seriously, you don't know EMILY's list? It stands for "Early Money Is Like Yeast" (it helps raise the dough). It's a rather substantial player in DC that raises money and trains candidates, campaign staff and volunteers for pro-choice, Democratic women candidates. EMILY's list generally raises some of the largest war chests among national PACs (more than 30 million in 2006), and trains some of the best women in politics (several of whom now work for Obama). They endorsed Hillary Clinton shortly after she announced her candidacy.


by domma on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 01:44:40 AM EST
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