Barack and the Youth Vote


It would be easy to be cynical about the enthusiasm Obama has generated among young people, but the role that young people played in Obama's stunning number of donors deserves to be emphasized. The active but still little-known official Students for Barack Obama blog posted this report:
Our University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign chapter is certainly doing their part by raising $1,300 from 45 students (an average donation of about $30) already. These numbers add up in a big way though. We threw a campaign rally with a special student discount rate in Boston a few months ago with thousands of attendees and those small donations added up in a big way to $100,000 from students alone.

Over at the Million Strong for Barack facebook group, they have now managed to gather over 660 contributions for a total of over $18,300 --- again with an average contribution of around thirty bucks. Young people have used the discussion threads there to match each other's donations, launch pledge drives, and cheer each other on --- self-driven and autonomously from the campaign.


Some of these numbers have been reported already on MyDD. I would disagree slightly with Jerome's post that the Obama campaign has discovered "well-to-do students with disposable income." It's not that they are making large donations, it's that they are making them in incredible numbers:
Students were able to buy tickets for the Boston event at a discounted minimum price of only $23 and yet managed to raise $100,000. That means students purchased thousands of tickets. The Harvard Crimson reported that over 175 Harvard Dems attended the event. As Jerome noted:
For the Boston event, there's 250 tickets sold by Mitch Robinson, a Tufts senior, "distributing them outside the library and in the dining hall", another Obama supporter "sold 118 tickets to her BU peers", and you get the idea.

The success of the UIllinois at Urbana-Champagne SFBO chapter and Million Strong for Barack show however that this success isn't just limited to the huge small-donor "concerts" that Obama has been holding but that there are a number of great grassroots efforts spawned by students at college chapters all around the country.

Youth Vote Narrative:

Mike Connery has put up a number of thoughtful posts on MyDD about his worries that an Obama loss could lead to a media narrative that young people failed to turn out and have an impact --- that youth vote organizers might be risking too much by putting all of their eggs in the Obama basket.
While this fear may or may not be well-founded, Obama remains a remarkable opportunity to engage young people for the first time in politics --- to make their first contribution, to walk their first precinct. These positive experiences have got to translate into greater involvement in the future, regardless of the general election candidate. Young people are learning what they can accomplish collectively.
As many have noted, this strategy is reflective of Obama's background in community organizing and organizations like ACORN that solicit minor donations from even their low-income members as a way getting them engaged and building a movement --- and these young people aren't showing up to hear U2, they're showing up to hear a politician give a speech about progressive politics.
Adam B posted a great quote from David Sirota in a comment to Jerome's post:
[T]here is another model that very few people talk about - the one where lots of working people give lots of small dollar contributions. People like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) have been doing this for years. Howard Dean did it in his presidential primary run. It's a much harder path, of course, because it's much harder to organize lots of people than it is to organize a few wealthy fat cats. But in the absence of public financing of elections, campaigns that try to rely on lots of little contributions are the next closest thing to a small-d democratic election system....
Groups like Moveon.org are flipping [the] smoky backroom model on its head, gathering a very large group of contributors who each give just a little bit. Such a model doesn't require regular folks to cough up hundreds of dollars. On the contrary, if millions of people kicked in $5 or $10 we might have a whole different country.
Getting more people to contribute small sums of money to political causes will require a change in mindset. As political fundraiser Chris Gruwell says, we need to look at political giving in the same way we look at the basket that comes around at our place of worship. We chip in what we can, no matter how modest, because we believe in the charity work that our money funds. That is the way we need to think about supporting good people running for office, because government can have as big if not bigger effects on society than almost any other institution.

Despite the great work that youth organizations have done registering new voters, I would argue that in the end, historically, the greatest impact has come from the wave generated by the arrival of a leader able to speak to young people and articulate a call to public service --- the way JFK motivated a youthful Chris Dodd to join the Peace Corps --- and that the best thing we can do is recognize these waves when they come and ride them as best we can.

Camp Obama:

Dan Rather just did a great special on HDNet about Camp Obama --- an effort in Chicago to train mostly young people to work for the campaign in the early primary states. The segment includes a group interview with Mary Hodge, Deputy Youth Vote Director, Jocelyn Woodards, who's the director of Camp Obama, Sean Eldridge and Tobin Van Ostern of SFBO. Mary Hodge in particular notes that Obama's campaign has been the first she's worked for to fully-fund the youth vote campaign and do more than just "bring in volunteers and stuff envelopes."
The most unique thing about this campaign is that we are actually fully-funded. The campaign manager knows we exist. We're not just seen by the campaign as the red-headed step-children, if you will --- that we just provide volunteers and that's it. And it's just so unique, because they really take us seriously. Every campaign I've ever been on, they say they take us seriously, but really they just take us seriously that they want us to bring volunteers in and stuff envelopes... This group... We are targeting different college campuses, we are building lists, we are expecting these students to come out and vote for us.

Camp Obama has already had over 2,000 people sign up for the trainings throughout this summer in Chicago. Rumor has it that they are going to be taking Camp Obama on the road in the fall. Boston or Los Angeles with their college-rich populations would probably be ripe targets.
In this election cycle, we need to choose the most effective spokesperson for progressive politics for the next decade and the candidate most likely to have a transformational impact on American politics --- the candidate with the most potential to bring new voices to the table and expand the Democratic base. Obama is shaping up to be that candidate.

(Obama supporters should get the RSS feed for the SFBO blog and read up, they do good work --- I'm in no way affiliated, just a fan.)

Owning a part of the campaign:

Just as a final note, Ezra Klein over at the American Prospect's TAPPED discussed Obama's number of donors, quoting a very cynical Chris Hayes:
the psychology and motivations for small donors is quite different than for large donors. If you're a big donor, you want access: a rubber chicken dinner, a photo-op, maybe a phone call answered. For small donors, it's entirely a different calculation. It's not because you think the $50 will buy you influence, or even, really, make that big of a difference. It's an identity statement, and a desire to be a part of something. When you pay that money, you become part of the Obama Phenomenon. That's what people are buying.

Although there is some truth to this (and talking about the community organizing strategy is a much better way of describing it), I think the first poster named Wendell has the right response by taking on the implication that Obama's celebrity is selling the tickets and not his message:
Hayes is way more cynical than your squib let on: "Those of us who shelled out the money, likewise were purchasing some small part of the hype and fame--some minor morsel of celebrity for ourselves."
As one of the quarter-million Obama contributors, I say: BS! If I want some small part of the hype and fame, I'll buy Paris Hilton's perfume. If I want a Democratic Party nominee who doesn't have 60% of independents who, right now, say they would never vote for that candidate, and who isn't a trial lawyer to his core (many other lawyers are allergic to that type), then I want Obama to win, and, obviously, contributing helps (mother's milk and all)--assuming that his campaign can spend contributions effectively. That sort of calculation, I would submit, has very little to do with buying into my very own little piece of a celebrity's culture.


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Barack and the Youth Vote (3.00 / 0)

Thoughts on the youth vote? Or on Obama's strategy of collecting donations from young people?
One Million Strong --- Join up
by psericks on Sun Jul 15, 2007 at 09:21:06 PM EST

Cool. (none / 0)

A lot of info. A+++++
Obama Citizen Ad Videos
by lovingj on Sun Jul 15, 2007 at 09:21:50 PM EST

Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (none / 0)

I'm a young person - I won't say what age, but I am considered to be in this young person demographic that you speak of. All I know is that the only candidate I hear people my age talking about, the only candidate whom they would consider giving their hard-earned cash to, even if it is just ten bucks, is Obama.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:33:05 AM EST

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I need to ask ,though, as a young person who is supporting Obama,what about him do you support?
What facts. I feel it's a movement but nothing to back it up.

 Edwards on the other hand,has a plan for young kids-College for Everyone. Wants to get our young men and women out of Iraq and wants healthcare for all children. These are solid plans.

What plans does Obama have for the youth that are solid other than the words 'change' and 'hope'...?


by yann123 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:51:19 AM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (none / 0)

Obama's health plan has a mandate for children.  So the "Healthcare for all children" point is moot.  

"Wants to get our young men and women out of Iraq" - You just described 70% of Americans and 100% of the Democratic candidates.  

"Edwards on the other hand"  Edwards on the other hand nothing.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:58:37 AM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (none / 0)

Unlike most Obama detractors, Obama supporters, especially young ones, aren't just focused on the words 'change' and 'hope'. In Obama we see someone who's lived what he talks about, working with poor people on the South Side, and who also understands what people of our generation don't like about America. He doesn't come across as a politician, which, policies or not, Edwards does to many people. You may call these thing shallow. I call them relief for a generation who's learned that politics is a boring, meaningless business that doesn't affect the lives of real people and is better left to an "elite" class. Obama, then, represents to many people of my age an opening into political involvement - and a reason to care.

These aren't the 'facts' you asked for, I realize. But that's the thing about Obama supporters, especially the younger ones, at least in my experience: it's largely about the big picture. I understand that's why Obama supporters are often chastised in the blogosphere, with its emphasis on links and polls. But luckily for Obama, most people aren't concerned with blogs.

Though Obama is also for withdrawl from Iraq and mandatory healthcare for children. Not sure about his college policy. You may say, "Young people should be for Edwards, with these policies! He should appeal to them!" But that's the thing: we don't want to be told who should appeal to us. We want (and of course I speak for myself and the other young Obama supporters, not everyone in the demographic) someone who understands what we understand.

Whew. Long response, sorry.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 02:03:21 AM EST
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Ok let me ask you this (none / 0)

Obama went to an expensive prep school in Hawaii, Columbia and Harvard

Edwards went to all public schools, worked his way through college at a state university and you say Obama understands what most college kids go through. Really?

Yes he is a great motivational speaker but what do you think he will do for you when in office?

Edwards has already helped 200 low income kids in NC get to college through his College for Everyone test program. What has Obama done for the youth?


by Chaoslillith on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:05:01 AM EST
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Re: Ok let me ask you this (none / 0)

Don't start this. Barack Obama was still paying off his law school debt when he ran for Senate in '04 and had taken out a second mortgage on his condo to finance his campaign.
He attended unknown Occidental College in southern California for two years before transferring to Columbia. He was an extraordinarily talented student and ended up with a mass of student debt.
Another reason I think he is close to students and great at speaking to students and understands their experience is that he was a college professor, has worked on voting drives for young people, and left college for an $11,000 a year job in the community --- his wife was founding executive director of Public Allies, which trains young people for a life in public service and works with Americorps funding, and she also founded the first Community Service Center at the University of Chicago, which has done incredible things for town-gown relations in Hyde Park and launched a large summer training program for training young leaders in public service.
As for the claim that Obama never did anything in the state legislature, that has been talked about exhaustively here on MyDD. Here's a start: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/1 7/politics/main2369157.shtml
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by psericks on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 06:07:10 AM EST
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Re: Ok let me ask you this (none / 0)

I'm not sure you even read what I wrote. I never said Obama went through what most college kids go through - though I appreciated for the 100th time reading about how tough Edwards had to fight. And I think you misunderstand - young people aren't exclusively looking for policies that help young people. That's a rather shallow perception of our demographic. In his many speeches on campuses or at rallies, Obama speaks about what's wrong with America, and the mindset it will take to fix these problems. This is what connects with young people. You may be skeptical, but just head over to Facebook or the next campus rally and you'll see Obama's support come through.  I've tried to describe why I think Obama is the most appealing candidate for my age range...you don't have to believe me.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
by This Machine Kills Fascists on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 02:13:09 PM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (none / 0)

so you're a young person who support Obama??..Did i get this right?..If so,you support Obama and don't know why or what he stands for??...Thats ridiculous....

Are you just trying to make a point that Obama doesnt stand for anything or his young supporters are clueless and you're using yourself as the perfect example??..you dont really know why you support him.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:49:35 AM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (none / 0)

Oh ok,i just realized you directed your writing to an Obama supporter.


by JaeHood on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 04:53:02 AM EST
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What are Obama's youth plans??? (none / 0)

Again... yes lots of $$ coming in,great BUT I haven't heard what is he saying that is supporting the youth?

I feel the movement of words 'change' and 'hope' but that's it!


by yann123 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:54:43 AM EST

Re: What are Obama's youth plans??? (none / 0)

How many rallies have Hillary and Edwards had on college campuses?  Now ask the same question for Obama. The number has a huge difference.  

As for appealing to young people, having a president who is a gifted speaker, who can inspire people, and who can connect and relate, is HUGE after 8 years of Bush just seems well worth a lot.  Policy isn't everything yann.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 02:01:25 AM EST
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So you are voting on image only (none / 0)

like people bought into the image of Bush being "a guy you can have a beer with".

Once again I will say Obama has voted for a lot of good bills, but what has he done for the youth and more importantly what are his plans for fixing the country?


by Chaoslillith on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 05:06:33 AM EST
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Chirp, Chirp (none / 0)

Are those crickets I hear?


Future Majority / Young Philly Politics
by Alex Urevick on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:23:05 AM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (1.00 / 1)

The Obama haters here are totally pathetic. You just don't get it.

Edwards and Clinton are NOT OUR OWN!

Barack Obama IS.

Get over yourselves. Your intimidation tactic is not going to work. Clinton and Edwards had their chances and they messed up. Don't sit up here and interrogate the Youth on why we support Obama. Who the hell do you think you are? You guys have written off the Youth. Remember, we don't vote? Now all of a sudden you want to make the case for Edwards and Hillary to the Youth? Get you noses out of our asses. We are not interested.


"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama
by BlueDiamond on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:16:20 AM EST

Here's an idea! (none / 0)

How about Obama fans realize that most Democrats do not support Obama? Maybe if you start from that perspective and try to persuade the rest of us Democrats/liberals/progressives to vote for your candidate, instead of claiming that people like me who don't support Obama  are pathetic?

At the moment I'd vote Gravel or Dennis "the Menace" over Obama.

I am a very active progressive activist, and when I see Obama I do not see "our own", I see a wolf in sheep's clothing, a la Bill Clinton.


Future Majority / Young Philly Politics
by Alex Urevick on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:29:15 AM EST
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Here's an idea! (none / 0)

How about Obama fans realize that most Democrats do not support Obama? Maybe if you start from that perspective and try to persuade the rest of us Democrats/liberals/progressives to vote for your candidate, instead of claiming that people like me who don't support Obama  are pathetic?

At the moment I'd vote Gravel or Dennis "the Menace" over Obama.

I am a very active progressive activist, and when I see Obama I do not see "our own", I see a wolf in sheep's clothing, a la Bill Clinton.


Future Majority / Young Philly Politics
by Alex Urevick on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:31:25 AM EST
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Re: Barack and the Youth Vote (3.00 / 1)

Edwards and Clinton are NOT OUR OWN!

Speak for yourself.

You really need to do a lot better for your candidate.

I like Obama, Edwards and Clinton. Any of the three will make a great president. Any of the three will be a vast (that's an understatement) improvement over the last six and a half years.

In the years that I have participated here (that includes MyDD's previous incarnations) I had not had to remind myself of this as much as I have in the past few weeks as I've watched the discourse deteriorate and the usefulness of MyDD to me plummet: candidates and campaigns are not responsible for, nor do they control their amateur fans.


543,895 votes
by Michael Bersin on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:43:26 AM EST
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