Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa

Senator Clinton announced today that Teresa Vilmain will take over for JoDee Winterhof as Iowa State Director.  This is a big deal.  See the Clinton Campaign press release here.  

Teresa Vilmain is a Democratic political operative from Iowa who has been accorded genius status.  She is given a lot of credit for Tom Vilsack's historic upset victory in 1998.  If you were to create a pantheon of Iowa Democratic political operatives (at least of a few years ago) you would have to include Vilmain, Harkin strategist Jeff Link, and the guy who won the 2004 caucuses for Kerry, John Norris.

That is the obvious comparison here; the idea is that Hillary Clinton has made the one big hire that has the potential to turn her campaign around in Iowa.  I don't know if Vilmain can do for Clinton what Norris did for Kerry, but if I were working for either Obama or Edwards in Iowa today, my paranoia level would have just gone through the roof.  



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Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

I read about this major hire this morning.  Good for Hillary!

This should be a further indication that Hillary has NO intention of ceding Iowa to John Edwards.


by samueldem on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 06:50:14 PM EST

Does this reflect her failure (none / 0)

to connect with Iowans so far?  Is her campaign  beginning to panic?


by littafi on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 07:04:48 PM EST

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Hillary is the best candidate and has my full support.  This appears to be another smart move by her campaign.  As the debate in NH showed she's got what it takes.


by sterkt on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 07:21:43 PM EST

"Genius status"??? (none / 0)

OMG!  What will the Obama and Edwards campaigns do?  They're up against a "genius".  Better throw in the towel now.

Wait, is this the same "genius" who ran Gary Hart's Iowa campaign in '88 when he got caught with Donna Rice?  Or maybe the "genius" who got paid over $200,000 by the DNC for political consulting during the 2004 election?  We all now how wonderfully that turned out.

Hey, she may end up helping Hillary in Iowa, but please enough of this "her shit doesn't stink" fawning over everything her campaign does.


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by minvis on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 07:56:42 PM EST

Re: "Genius status"??? (3.00 / 1)

You are missing the point.  

I am talking about the world of the Iowa Caucuses.  Thus, whatever decisions made by Gary Hart or the DNC in the past are  wholly irrelevant.

I understand your antipathy to the type of inside-baseball glorification of political operatives that I guess I am endorsing here.  I also agree that Edwards and Obama are still effectively able to compete.  

There is a big difference, though, between fawning over the Clinton campaign, and recognizing that they have just hired a person at or near the top of a short list of elite Iowa talent.


by Nate Willems on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 08:46:18 PM EST
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good, I'm glad her expectations will go up (3.00 / 2)

This motivates me more to GOTV for my preferred candidate (Edwards).

What will Clinton's excuse be when she comes in a distant third in Iowa despite the support of the Vilsacks, quite a few of the big donors (Bill Knapp, Jerry Crawford), and geniuses like Teresa Vilmain?

Vilmain is good, but she won't be able to fix the fact that many Democrats simply don't like Hillary, and most who like her think she couldn't win the general.


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by desmoinesdem on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 09:40:07 PM EST
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Re: good, I'm glad her expectations will go up (none / 0)

"What will Clinton's excuse be when she comes in a distant third in Iowa despite the support of the Vilsacks, quite a few of the big donors (Bill Knapp, Jerry Crawford), and geniuses like Teresa Vilmain?"

Boy, the oracle at work again.  So, you are, once again, predicting that Clinton will "come in a distant third" in Iowa. Not even a "close" third, but a demoralized, down-in-the-dumps, complete "joke of a candidate."  Based on nothing but anecdotal "evidence" and a bias that is astounding.  I live in Florida and talk to a lot of people, and the polls are sure showing bad news for Edwards here, but I would not be presumptious enough to claim that he will end up a demoralized "distant third" here.  Who in the hell knows?  He could make a good run, spend a lot of money on TV ads for all we know, come in second, maybe a "strong" third, or a "strong second."

  Like I said, a shame that some here are so extremely biased and, thus, unreasonable.   Having a more reasonably realistic person in that state would be a very valuable resource to a place like MyDD.  

BTW, why would I not take you up on your bet?  It is "for fun" only, right?


by georgep on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:46:48 PM EST
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Re: good, I'm glad her expectations will go up (3.00 / 1)

I thought she said one time Clinton would come in fourth.


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by robliberal on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 11:59:51 PM EST
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I Am Curious... (3.00 / 1)

I am curious whether you (George, Rob and Samuel) know what the person she is replacing did wrong?  Is there an official story, or better yet, a true story, about why that person has been pushed aside for this new hire?

Also, I think the three of you would probably subscribe to the notion, or at least aspiration, that Hillary Clinton runs a wonderfully tight ship.  If that is true, how did that memo suggesting she give up on Iowa leak out to the media?  Did the campaign leak that on purpose?  If so, why?


by Demo37 on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 01:20:26 AM EST
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Re: I Am Curious... (none / 0)

From the sounds of it the new person is an institution in Iowa politics.  When you have a chance to get major talent, you have to grab it.  That does not have to mean that someone did anything wrong or was "pushed aside," although I can see where that would be something an Edwards supporter is trying to make out of it.   I don't recall the same accolades for Winterhof, so this is definitely a major upgrade.    

It is VERY early in the process, the candidates are just now opening offices and getting things going in these states.  It makes sense to get the best possible team together for the big push in late fall and early winter.  The polls in Iowa are all over the place, which means the state is probably up for grabs, despite the fact that Edwards had a major institutional advantage in the state because of the infrastructure he had built and the donors he had lined up before.  

The "memo."  I can't say.  The memo seemed rather innocent enough.  The writer was not pointing to any type of problem, just was questioning the wisdom of spending perhaps $15 to $20 Million Dollars on one early small state when, given Clinton's overall position in state polls, one can easily see her winning the nomination by concentrating on and building very strong support in New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, etc.   Seemed like a brainstorming memo that raised an interesting point, given the reality as we currently see it (Clinton leads in virtually every state that is being polled.)   Of course, it was shot down, as Iowa is an important part of the puzzle, and you don't want to leave the state as a pickup to Edwards by default.  Better to make Edwards spend a lot of advertising money to keep his lead in the polls in that one all-important (for him) state, thereby drying him up to be unable to compete in other important states.  

If the memo was leaked on purpose, I don't see to what purpose.  To shake up the race in Iowa?  Seems far fetched.    As for "tight ship."  There are lots of people involved in any campaign.  You can't run a campaign ship airtight all the time, it is impossible.   All campaigns will have some problems keeping a lid on everything, now and in the future.  


by georgep on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 01:56:56 AM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

Thanks for your take on it George.  

On the new hire, I think common sense, and long political experience, suggests something different from your intepretation.  I think the campaign is not happy with the way Iowa is going.  I suspect that her Iowa campaign and internal polling shows problems for her in Iowa.  They want a change.    

As for the leaked memo, I struggled to find a plausible reason why they would leak it on purpose, but I can't think of a particularly good one...unless they are actually toying with giving up on Iowa and wanted the leak as a trial balloon...which doesn't seem quite right.  I just can't see that strategy working.  In this case, I do think the leak was actually...an unintentional leak.


by Demo37 on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 02:21:31 AM EST
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Re: Thanks (none / 0)

Nah, you don't look at national polling all over the place, and several polls actually give you the lead in the state, while also opening 10 state offices (that is a lot of hiring of people) that very weekend, and "toy" with the idea of giving up on Iowa.  The "memo" seemed like a brainstorming memo, exactly because Clinton has been so strong in many other states.  IMO the writer was raising the question because, if things don't change appreciably over the next 5 months, Clinton would be in a very strong position, with or without Iowa, and one can argue that her strong position could give her the luxury of building a strategy that could exclude Iowa, the counteropposite of Edwards' situation who looks to be in desperate need of a convincing Iowa win, or else he probably has no chance.   As I said, the other side of the argument prevailed.

Now, as to the first part of your post:  It is very early yet.  Polls are not out of reach in Iowa, any way you want to slice it.  Even the worst-case polls show Clinton and Obama within reasonable reach in that state.  If you are going to make the argument you are making this early in the process with polling at worst within high single-digits, then where does that leave Edwards and Obama in Florida?  In New Hampshire?  In Nevada?  In Michigan?  In California?  Look at the leads Clinton has there.  I am sure internal polling would show the same.  Faced with strong Clinton leads, are the Edwards' and Obama campaigns therefore "not happy" with the way Florida or California are going and may be contemplating not spending the huge amounts of monies that are needed to become competetive in those states?  Compared to those states, Iowa is much easier to canvas, it is much easier to reach a lot of people in a very short amount of time.  

It is early in the process.  All campaigns mull over standings in states.  I am sure someone in the Edwards' campaign asked or memoed at some point whether Florida could become a big problem for Edwards, or what to do about California to bring the polls closer, and whether Edwards can strategically put together other states, should things not change in Florida appreciably.  It is normal campaign chatter, and strategists would not be good strategists if they did not play all conceivable combinations and possibilities through.


by georgep on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 10:23:34 AM EST
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Yes, It is Very Early (none / 0)

I think we are in agreement that at this point, Hillary Clinton is not going to throw in the towel in Iowa, and the leak of the Iowa memo was a mistake, not an intentional act.

Every one of the campaigns is organizing and campaigning hard in Iowa.  (Heck, Richardson is even running TV ads.)  My sense, however, is that Hillary Clinton was not happy with the effort she has seen from her Iowa campaign in the last six months.  This hire is a change at the top that reflects that unhappiness.

As for Florida and California, I don't have a good sense of how much "effort" each of the campaigns are presently putting into those huge "wholesale politics" states.  Hillary Clinton's last name, associated with eight years of headlines (some of them good, some of them bad, over the course of 2,500 plus days) in the 1990's, gives her a tremendous leg up in such states.  Probably 95% of the voters in these states "think" they know who she is, and what she would do if elected, eg the policies of her husband?  (True?)

Obama and Edwards are actually still relatively unknown to these voters. What will they actually do if elected president? Their poll numbers in these "wholesale politics" states are relatively low because it is hard for the voters there to be "for" somebody that they know very little about.  Bottom line:  it is very early yet.  Much can, and will, change.


by Demo37 on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 02:41:24 PM EST
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Re: good, I'm glad her expectations will go up (none / 0)

"I thought she said one time Clinton would come in fourth."

I believe she stated that Vilsack would stay in the race, thus the fourth ranking.  Of course, if I recall, she recently stated that Richardson may come up and surprise in Iowa, so the "distant fourth" placement is still a possibility.  


by georgep on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 01:39:10 AM EST
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correct (3.00 / 1)

With Vilsack in the race, I predicted Clinton would finish fourth in Iowa. That was not just based on anecdotes (I actually only knew of a handful of firm Vilsack supporters), but on some structural factors about the caucuses that in my mind favored Vilsack.

With Vilsack gone, I have predicted that Clinton will finish third but have not ruled out a fourth-place finish either.

When I say "distant third," I mean that I doubt Clinton will get more than 20 percent of the delegates, and I think the winner will get more than 30 percent of the delegates. But for the purposes of our just-for-fun bet, any third-place or worse finish for Clinton would be a "win" for me.

You can call me biased, but I vowed to learn something from the last caucus campaign in Iowa. Among other things, I learned that second choices are more important than I had realized.

Also, I should have paid more attention to which candidates undecided voters told me they were considering, and which candidates undecided voters told me they had ruled out.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 02:14:54 AM EST
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They'll try to put a positive spin on this... (3.00 / 2)

...but a staff shakeup isn't done because things are going well.


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by MeanBoneII on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 08:41:49 PM EST

Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

Well you can't deny she's running a smart campaign.  I've been a Hillary supporter for a long time and even I didn't expect this.

This also means that Hillary doesn't take Iowa (or any state) for granted.  


by samueldem on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 08:44:27 PM EST

Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

Sounds like things in Iowa were not going the way that Senator Clinton wanted so she made some changes. I would expect nothing less from a candidate who wants to make her best showing in an important state.

The change may also reflect the growing influence Vilsack has on her campaign.  Teresa Vilmain was a close aide to Governor Vilsack.  JoDee Winterhof once worked for Senator Harkin. Maybe a little inter-Iowa politics going on?


by gradysdad on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 07:42:20 AM EST

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Well, she can hire whomever, her choice.  It does not change the fact that voters vote for whom they like, not a political activist.  People know who they like and don't like and will make a decision by January.  Geez, all these so called political geniuses don't me squat.  Look at Bob Schrum who has worked on many LOOSING campaigns, but still writes a book.


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by icebergslim on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 09:38:24 AM EST

Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

It is possible that Tereas Vilmain wasn't available a couple of months ago and that JoDee Winterhof was simply doing the job until she was.

I mean when you consider all the weaknesses that erupted within the Edwards' campaign, it seems a little silly to be placing emphasis on Hillary hiring Vilmain.  It's not like Winterhof was jettisoned.  She is now State Director.  For Hillary, strategy is important.  She wouldn't be where she is today if she weren't an excellent strategist.

I am also remembering that right after the $400 haircut fiasco, Edwards got rid of his finance director, a woman whose name I can't recall. Should we interpret that as a clear message that Edwards believed his candidacy was in trouble?


by samueldem on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 11:57:18 AM EST

she's been available since Vilsack dropped out (none / 0)

Nice try, though.

When the Clinton folks hired Winterhof we heard lots of chest-beating about what a real pro she was.

Edwards' finance director did not want to move to NC for family reasons. Her departure from the campaign in the spring of 2007 was planned.

But please, spread the word that Edwards is in trouble and Hillary is going to win Iowa! I don't know any Iowa Democrats who believe Hillary is going to win, but you seem to know an awful lot.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 04:23:59 PM EST
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Re: she's been available since Vilsack dropped out (none / 0)

Are you saying Edwards DIDN'T fire someone over some of the issues that have come up and were caused by his campaign staff, were campaign blunders.    Someone in Edwards campaign may have single-handedly caused Edwards to fall back in the campaign (perhaps created serious problems) with the haircut blunder.   That should not result in someone updating their resume swiftly?  


by georgep on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 09:02:36 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

it seems a little silly to be placing emphasis on Hillary hiring Vilmain

Hey, it's a Clinton supporter who started this diary and said what a big deal it was that she was hired.  Just because other people commented on this diary that were not Hillary supporters, we're now "placing emphasis" on the Vilmain hiring?

As for the Edwards finance director leaving because of the $400 haircut, go ahead and interpret it anyway you want.  It's a free country.  For me, I'll interpret the Vilmain hiring by Clinton as a sign that she didn't like what was happening in Iowa up to this point.

I guess we'll see in the next few months if it was a good decision or not.


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by minvis on Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 12:27:54 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Hires Teresa Vilmain in Iowa (none / 0)

As Teresa's younger brother I would just like to say that I am very proud of her and what she has done for the Democratic Party.

I know she is the best person for this job and will give it her all and more.

Her brother
Jim


by jvilmain on Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 08:30:53 PM EST


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