26 Percent.

The latest numbers in from Newsweek:

In 19 months, George W. Bush will leave the White House for the last time. The latest NEWSWEEK Poll suggests that he faces a steep climb if he hopes to coax the country back to his side before he goes. In the new poll, conducted Monday and Tuesday nights, President Bush's approval rating has reached a record low. Only 26 percent of Americans, just over one in four, approve of the job the 43rd president is doing; while, a record 65 percent disapprove, including nearly a third of Republicans.

The new numbers--a 2 point drop from the last NEWSWEEK Poll at the beginning of May--are statistically unchanged, given the poll's 4 point margin of error. But the 26 percent rating puts Bush lower than Jimmy Carter, who sunk to his nadir of 28 percent in a Gallup poll in June 1979. In fact, the only president in the last 35 years to score lower than Bush is Richard Nixon. Nixon's approval rating tumbled to 23 percent in January 1974, seven months before his resignation over the botched Watergate break-in.

The poll also finds that Americans' views of Congress are generally the same as they are of the President, with 25 percent approving and 63 percent disapproving. However, while Americans are divided along partisan lines when it comes to supporting the President, with Republicans still marginally backing their leader while Democrats and Independents largely do not, Americans across the political spectrum feel the same way about Congress, with between 25 percent and 27 percent of Democrats, Republicans and Independents approving of Congress.

It is important to note that Congress' approval is traditionally much lower than that of the President, so the fact that George W. Bush is liked by roughly as few Americans as is Congress says at least as much about his unpopularity as it does that of Congress. (Read Charles Franklin, who writes, in short, "In this light, while approvals of 35% apiece may be numerically equal, the political implications in light of historical polling are not the same.")



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Approval numbers on Congress can be deceptive (none / 0)

If a pollster asked me 'Do you approve of Congress?', I would answer NO.

Why? -Too many frigging Republicans in it to get things done and/or to override vetos.  

I believe the majority of Democrats are on the right track.


by Cleveland John on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 03:08:50 PM EST

26% is totally irrelevant. (3.00 / 1)

In fact, it wouldn't matter if Bush were at 10% if our congress keeps acting like they are.

What good is it for us if Bush's approval is in the total shitter?  As long as guys like Emanuel, Hoyer, and, to a lesser extent, Reid keep running around and capitulating like pussies, it doesn't matter.

At this point I don't care what Bush's ratings are.  It hasn't changed one damn thing.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 03:12:10 PM EST

Well (3.00 / 1)

The most obvious answer to that question is if it can somehow be rammed through Congress's collective head that the more they follow and coddle Bush, the worse that their own approval ratings are going to be...


by Silent sound on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 04:08:13 PM EST
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Re: Well (none / 0)

And, unfortunately, Rahm Emmanuel... pooping in his pants with fright, will probably listen to the conservative concern trolls and go even more DLC...  thus assuring massive losses next year.

Thanks,

Mike


by lordmikethegreat on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 09:46:20 PM EST
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Re: Well (none / 0)

"more DLC...  thus assuring massive losses next year."

BINGO!  That will happen, you are 100 percent right.  I'd bet anyone a thousand dollars that this is what Rahm want to do and that it results in a one-term wonder for our party being in power.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 10:20:21 PM EST
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Re: 26% is totally irrelevant. (none / 0)

What about the big picture? Bush has the unique opportunity to destroy a major political party - possibly for a generation. We should encourage him on this endeavor.


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 04:43:35 PM EST
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Re: 26% is totally irrelevant. (none / 0)

I agree about Bush destroying the GOP for a generation. Seriously, I expect to see a Democratic majority until a third party emerges.


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by Mark Wallace on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 04:47:23 PM EST
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I Give the Republican Party Credit (none / 0)

Credit where credit is due.  Those guys (and a few women) really do stick together.  I mean, really, how much lower does Bush have to go before his party revolts against him?   If a Democratic President was at 26% his fellow Democrats on the Hill would be through with him.  Republicans are still largely sticking by Shrub.

When you think about, they are really just thumbing their noses at America.   Don't like our guy?  To hell with you then, that is sort of their attitude.


by dpANDREWS on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 03:27:36 PM EST

Four out of last 10 polls are in the 20s (none / 0)

Per PollingReport.com.

Today's Newsweek poll (26%), last week's NBC-Wall Street Journal (29%) and Quinnipiac (28%) polls, and the Pew poll (28%) from the beginning of the month.

Nixon numbers.  Sweet.

But what dpANDREWS said.  They're staying with Mr. 26%, at least until they know they won't have primary challengers next year.  

GOP to America: Up yours.


by RT on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 04:36:13 PM EST

Democrats in congress vs. Republicans in congress (3.00 / 1)

Several pollsters including Harris, have been smart enough to differentiate between Democrats and Republicans in congress. It's misleading to assume that because Democrats have more congressmen/women than Republicans, it follows that Americans blame Democrats more for its failures.
In fact, the opposite is true: In 100% of the polls conducted so far this year, Republicans in congress have a lower approval than Democrats in congress, in polls that separate both groups.
Americans don't like the fact that Republicans are blocking every good bill, thus enabling Bush to veto them.

I demand that pollsters start asking the question, "do you approve or disapprove of the job done by Republicans in congress?"


by kingsbridge77 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 05:24:05 PM EST

Re: 26 Percent. (none / 0)

Strangely, most Republicans are not at risk.  What is at risk is the Republicans as a national party.

There is little incentive under the present rules to change.  Let's say six republican Senators lose in 2008.  Are we that much closer to the magic 60 that is suddenly needed to get anything done?  Which six?  Say Allard, Collins, Sununu, Warner, Coleman, and Gordon Smith.  Four of the six (Collins, Warner, Coleman, and Smith) are among the nine least conservative Republicans.  On the matter of Iraq, we are likely to lose Chuck Hagel (who otherwise is pretty conservative).  That's not much movement. We'd need another gain of six in 2010 to really seal the deal (say Specter, Gregg, Bunning, Voinovich, Thune, and Murkowski for sample purposes).

They are counting on holding on till the public gets fed up whether it is one, two or three cycles.  And for many, the threat of a primary from the right is still stronger than the threat of a general election loss.

This would have interesting consequences.  Republicans in the Northeast, Great Lakes, and Pacific Coast would become even more of an endangered species.  The above scenario would leave them with no representaives and only one senator from the eleven Northeastern states (Snowe), and probably just  a dozen representatives or fewer from the whole northeast (maybe as few as six or eight).  Those would come from extreme rural PA, the Eastern Shore, western Maryland, the Jersey Shore.  

Democrats have needed massive majorities and a rock solid Presidential approval to get things done.  Since the House solidified on 435 members following the 1912 elections, that has been the FDR early years (the elections of 1932, 1934, amd 1936) and the single election of 1964.  In those years, Democrats won at least 295 House seats, 59 (of 96) Senate seats, and over 470 electoral votes.  One other election (1976) delivered similar congressional numbers (292 in the House) and a Democratic President. Jimmy Carter slumped in with 297 electoral votes (more than Bush in either term) and got little done.

These jerks may give us what we need to get another golden era of accomplishment.  In 1934, Republicans and their business allies pulled the same crap and FDR whupped them bad.  They doubled down and reached a low of 88 House seatsand 16 Senate seats.  And 8 electoral votes.  


by David Kowalski on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 06:20:30 PM EST

Re: 26 Percent. (none / 0)

The mainstream media mostly supports Republicans (and ignores or trashes Democrats). Bush's bad behavior just doesn't "stick" the way that Clinton's did because the MSM has not repeated his bad behavior over and over and over again the way they did with Clinton. Also, as we have seen recently, liberal Democrats vote the wrong way when business in their area is hurting (e.g., Levin and Stabenow opposing raising CAFE standards, Byrd supporting coal to oil processing). So we always need to have a supermajority to get anything useful done.

To get there, we really need to win big in 2008 and probably again in 2010. It would be great if some of the more conservative Republican Senators lost in 2008, say one of the Wyoming Senators, Cornyn in Texas, Dominici in New Mexico, Chambliss in Georgia, Stevens in Alaska, or Cochran in Mississippi. And it would be especially great for Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to lose in Kentucky. 2008 should be a great time to defeat conservatives in red states.


by RandomNonviolence on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 09:41:34 PM EST
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Re: 26 Percent. (none / 0)

The Congress question is important.  I need some help here - everytime I look at what is happening with Congress, I hear about some new filibuster by the Republicans, so that votes don't even get to the floor.

Did the Democats do this?  

I distinctly remember the howling of Republicans when ANY filibuster was contemplated.  Things like, "democrats sabotaging the work of government", "dictatorship of the minority", things like that.  Especially around the "Gang of 14", this was a big deal, and there was all this news chatter about "obstructionist democrats".

It is absolutely clear that the republican minority is to ACTUALLY sabotage.  Like the Gingrich act during the 90's, use  every lever of power, every vote, every chance to obstruct - to render the capability of Congress to do anything productive - moot.

But I haven't been hearing the same stories, as previously, where the Democrats were reviled in the cable press for being obstructionist.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Republicans ARE purposely being obstructive, to render Congress ineffectual.  (And example, all the last-minute amendments, points, so effectively derided by Barney Frank.)  This particular form of obstruction doesn't have to do with the merits of any particular bill, but only with the merits of political sabotage.

We have to start doing a database, a sort of congress obstruction-raking site, to raise this awareness.  


by jc on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 06:36:50 PM EST

It Pays To Read Franklin Carefully (none / 0)

The good news:

Franklin's trend indicator is now at 29.2%, the first time it's been under 30%:

Newsweek has a new poll taken 6/18-19/07 that finds approval of President Bush at 26%, disapproval at 65%. With this new data point the approval trend estimate stands at 29.9%, the first time the trend has fallen below 30%. The sharpness of the decline is striking. The change-point for approval is April 23, corresponding to the week of the Congressional vote for deadlines and a fund cutoff in Iraq and the President's subsequent veto. It precedes the immigration debate, though that debate may have sustained the decline. (On the other hand there is little evidence that immigration accelerated the decline which was already underway.)

The bad news: You really can't compare this 26% to Nixon's 23% in the Gallup poll, because of house effects.  Franklin doesn't directly point this out, but you can clearly see the difference in his discussion:

A look at the last six polls is revealing. Newsweek usually has a "house effect" of about 2.2 percentage points below the trend estimate, so finding it below trend is no surprise. But look also at NBC/WSJ. Their house effect has been around -.6, only a shade below trend. But the new NBC/WSJ poll 6/8-11/07 found approval at 29%. And Gallup's house effect is +.55, and their latest reading was 32%. That makes it awfully convincing that approval has now fallen to very nearly 30%, plus or minus 1.
So, if Gallup stayed with the current trend, it would be 29.2%+.55%=29.755%, almost 7% above Nixon's low.

Expect the Versailles media to continue blowing this off, the way they've blown off his prolonged stay in the 30s.  That's a good thing. Because the objective now is to discredit the media.  And holding onto to Mr. 20s is a great way for them to help us out.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 10:12:51 PM EST

Re: 26 Percent. (none / 0)

It's a fascinating aspect of American politics that every incumbent president retains - no matter what - substantial support among members of their own party.  That's not true in the rest of the world.

We're impressed by Nixon's legendary 23% approval rating, and we are all watching the calendar to see if Shrub can eke out the last 19 months of his term without eclipsing it.

I never had any great problem with (Bill) Clinton, but I'm sure Republicans were shocked that even as he was soiling Monica's pretty dress, his approval rating stayed near 50%.

But Brian Mulroney, in Canada, hit 9% without ever starting a disastrous war or whoring his Department of Justice.

In Israel, Olmert is supposedly at 2% today.  Granted, things haven't gone well there, but has Shrub's reign really been ten times more successful?

Similarly, there doesn't seem to be a floor under previous Japanese prime ministers - if the public turns against him, nearly EVERYBODY piles on.

I really don't understand why Americans are so loyal - it doesn't seem like we hold our political parties or leaders in great respect generally?  Does anybody have a theory?


by Grebner on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 11:10:54 PM EST

Re: 26 Percent. (none / 0)

Based on my analysis, it appears that Nancy Pelosi is first in line should Preznit 26-Percent fail to complete his term.


by KevinHayden on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 06:34:57 AM EST


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