Bloomberg Leaves GOP

Mike Bloomberg's name has been floated as a possible presidential candidate of the independent variety or, as the saying goes, as part of a "unity ticket." Hurl. The theory is that Bloomberg can afford to wait to jump in since he can bankroll his campaign himself and that he'd essentially run against Washington, D.C.

So is he running? Well, he sure has been acting like a candidate recently and this news will only fuel that speculation:

Michael R. Bloomberg, a longtime Democrat who switched to the Republican Party to run for mayor of New York City in 2001, announced this evening that he is changing his party status and registering as an independent.

Mr. Bloomberg maintained that "my plans for the future haven't changed," but his decision -- the first change in party affiliation by a sitting New York City mayor since 1971, when John V. Lindsay switched from Republican to Democrat -- immediately set off intense speculation that he will enter the 2008 presidential race as an independent.

If he does enter the race, he'll certainly have the money to compete. If he is able to add that to a message that resonates and win a few states, the electoral college could potentially be deadlocked and the top three candidates would be sent to the House of Representatives. Rasmussen explains it:

The House would then vote, but the result would not be determined by the overall number of Representatives. According to the Constitution, each state gets to cast one vote... and a majority of all the states is required to select a President. That means a candidate needs to get the nod from 26 state delegations before moving into the White House.

Democrats currently control exactly 26 delegations.

This could get interesting.

Update [2007-6-19 18:47:26 by Todd Beeton]: Bloomberg's statement specifies that he actually registered as "unaffiliated", edited title accordingly:
"I have filed papers with the New York City Board of Elections to change my status as a voter and register as unaffiliated with any political party. Although my plans for the future haven’t changed, I believe this brings my affiliation into alignment with how I have led and will continue to lead our City."
From the comments, Pollster brings us Survey USA's 3-way polling of Giuliani, Clinton and Bloomberg in 16 states that shows that Bloomberg's entrance into the race would actually help Hillary (she'd win 11 of the 16 including a few that Kerry lost such as Iowa, Missouri and Ohio. )



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Re: Bloomberg Registers As An Independent (none / 0)

very interesting...


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by kevin22262 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 06:37:32 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Registers As An Independent (3.00 / 1)

Isn't Bloomberg single?......When was the last time America elected a president that was a Bachelor?


by vamonticello on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:16:42 PM EST
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Re: Bloomberg Registers As An Independent (none / 0)

Buchanan in 1856? Although wasn't somebody later, Woodrow Wilson maybe, married in the White House?


by joyful alternative on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 09:53:53 PM EST
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Flip, Flop. Flip. Flop (3.00 / 1)

Bloomberg is the ultimate opportunist.

I guess you'd have to be to become a billionaire?

There were some interesting numbers posted over at Pollster.com about showing numbers from SurveyUSA in sixteen states with two-way (clinton/giuliani) and   three-way (clinton/giuliani/bloomberg) that appear to show Bloomberg as a third party choice making the dem (or Hillary at least) more competitive in quite a few states.

Not sure if this would apply in a race that wasn't between a gaggle of NYers, but it's something to note, don't you think?

Perot helped Bill after all.


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by Chrispy67 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 06:51:59 PM EST

Well, he has one supporter (none / 0)

Why, none other than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not sure if the ditching the GOP changes anything, but arnold is all over bloomberg recently. (see my diary for more on that...)


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by utbrian on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:10:29 PM EST
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SUSA just conducted an interesting set of polls. (none / 0)

Clinton-Giulini-Bloomberg and Clinton-Giuliani for a number of states.  Here are the results:

State | Clinton - Giuliani w/ Bloomberg | w/o Bloomberg

CA | 5   | 5
AL | -7  | -12
KS | -11 | -12
MA | 10  | 10
NY | 16  | 18
TX | -14 | -17
IA | 5   | 6
NM | 4   | 6
KY | -1  | -3
VA | -5  | -4
WA | 1   | -3
OR | 6   | 4
WI | 4   | 1
MO | 5   | -1
OH | 6   | 3

So Bloomberg helps Clinton in 9 states and hurts her in 4 states.  And the pro-Clinton swings are quite large compared to the pro-Giuliani swings.  A number of caveats here: large MoE, Bloomberg hasn't idologically defined his campaign, grain of salt and all that, but possibly a sign that a Bloomberg candidacy is a good thing...


by Ramo on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 06:54:13 PM EST

If Hilary Clinton (none / 0)

is nominated, Bloomberg might have a chance.  Clinton's problem is she has alienated the left wing of the Democratic Party.  It is unclear to me whether it is permanent or not.  

To me, a Clinton/Giuliani race woudl be a nightmare.  I would never vote for Giuliani, I do not know if I can ethically vote for Clinton or not.  Hopefully, I will not have to face that decision.  


by littafi on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:17:08 PM EST
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Re: If Hilary Clinton (none / 0)

I agree with you that he's probably the biggest threat Hillary Clinton could face if she wins the nomination. But I don't think it's the left-wing she'd be worried about. As time goes on, I think we'll find that on the whole he's a bit more "centrist" than she is but probably to the right of her on fiscal policy. I can't see that that's something the left-wing of the Democratic party could swallow. That's my two cents.


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by bowiegeek on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 08:12:14 PM EST
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Re: If Hilary Clinton (none / 0)

The left wing of the party isn't likely to vote for Bloomberg, however, and most of it will grit its teeth and vote for her if she wins, purely to avoid four more years of Republican rule.


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by Englishlefty on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 08:43:33 PM EST
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Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

I am going to commit blasphemy here and say that it's not been a bad mayor in NYC. Has he been perfect? No. But he's gotten a lot done, and he, unlike the prior asshole for mayor, actual does care about all of NYC not just the parts that supports him. Is he corporate? Sure, but he's not the worse possible independent running.


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 06:55:13 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

definitely. thanks. I had seen that but had forgotten where I'd seen it. thanks for the link.


by Todd Beeton on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 06:56:03 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

mmm... my gut tells me that this guy's just trying to get himself in a position to grab hillary's senate seat from whatever spitzer dem takes it over when she moves back to d.c.... outside chance: he's looking to take out spitzer himself.  but president??  i think he summarised it best himself when he asked rhetorically how anyone could seriously consider that a short liberal jewish billionaire from new york city had a chance at the presidency.

all of that goes double if hillary and/or rudy end as the nominees for their respective parties.  i think for lots of folks, it's too much new york as it is!


by island empire on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:00:54 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

The only really bad news about a potential Indy bid from Bloomberg is that the media would have a candidate.  A fiscally conservative, socially liberal, pox on both houses candidate that will please the Broders of the world.

They'll love writing about him.


by danielj on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:07:57 PM EST

The good thing about this... (none / 0)

His candidacy will give Naderites and disenchanted republicans a place to go - whereupon, their heads will explode when the espy each other.


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by Michael Bersin on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:08:59 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

hmm what happened to my post praising Bloomberg as a mayor of NY. Is that inappropriate for this blog? I didn't say I would vote for him. Just saying he hasn't been a bad mayor.


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:09:26 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

it's still there. not inappropriate at all. I don't even want to tell you who I voted for when I lived in NY.


by Todd Beeton on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:17:25 PM EST
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Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

I am a New Yorker, so I know a thing or two about how Mike Bloomberg
runs things. Two words: Money talks. And the more money, the better.

Bloomberg was completely AWOL, when it mattered, on the Ground Zero
rebuild. On education, which he staked out early as his signature issue,
he has a mixed record. And his other major projects, the Olympic bid
and a West Side stadium project: miserable failures.

Now, after selling out much of the City to real estate developers, Bloomberg
is trying to reinvent himself as Mr. Environmental Sustainability. But a
6-month study group, a slick Web site, and a 150-page report does not
an administration make.

Ultimately, this is just the next leg of the ego trip that began when
Bloomberg, having been a lifelong Democrat, went Republican to
run for Mayor, just because that's where the political opening was.

Expect him to run as CEO of the United States.

It won't work.


by horizonr on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:16:03 PM EST

Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

And he can be really snippy, impatient, contemptuous, dismissive,
condescending, and rude in press conferences.

Other than all that, he's been an OK mayor.


by horizonr on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:31:45 PM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

uhm okay- I live technically in one of the harder neighborhoods in brooklyn, and like I said above- he's not been bad for the city. And as for the education - at least he tried to clean up the mess, but let's be real, it's hard to clean up that kind of mess no matter who you are. The reality is that for years the schools were underfunded. Anyone Democrat or Republican would have been hard pressed to clean up that mess. Ferrer certainly would not have helped given he was beholden to the interests that are a part of the problem. I don't honestly know what the solution could be, and yes, he has mucked up somethings, but compared with what we had before- he's quantums, and I am not sure any Democrat could have done better. Just keeping all of this in context.


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 08:00:56 PM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

yea i also live in a not so great neighborhood in NYC and happen to like Bloomberg.


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by sepulvedaj3 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 10:29:41 PM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

Ever since the 1970s, New Yorkers have tended to view the fact that the City
has survived at all as evidence that a given Mayor has "not been bad for the city."

The mark of a good Mayor is what did you keep from falling apart. The mark of
a great Mayor is what did you make better in a fundamental and lasting way.

By this measure, I'd say that Bloomberg has been good -- but barely.


by horizonr on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 11:00:19 PM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

I am not from NYC. Nice assuming.


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 11:19:50 PM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

Anyone who has lived and/or worked in New York for long enough to know
how the City and its leadership works is a New Yorker, in my book. So when
you credentialed your commentary on Bloomberg's education initiatives by
first noting that you live in Brooklyn, a New Yorker is indeed what I took
you to be.

You are certainly right that New York can be one of the most provincial
places on earth. I just hope that your remark (below) that "native New
Yorkers...can be just as myopic as anyone else in a small town" was not
intended as dismissive backhand against my own take on Bloomberg.

Like you, I've lived in a number of other cities, so I too have some
outside perspective on the City. But I've also been here for a decade
and have a pretty good feel for what New Yorkers value in a Mayor.

At the end of the day, New Yorkers just want their Mayor to preserve
their survival and quality of life. This means that, as long as streets,
subways, and basic services retain a minimum standard, people can
get a little misty and forgetful about the really bad shit that happened
to the City on a Mayor's watch.

This is one reason that Giuliani's poll numbers are what they are. And it's
why it is important, now, to begin separating mythical Bloomberg from
actual Bloomberg.


by horizonr on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 10:15:00 AM EST
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Re: Michael Bloomberg, Opportunist (none / 0)

Having lived in other cities- I feel I am able to compare whereas naitive new yorker I have discovered can be just as myopic as anyone else in a small town can be despite the cities size.


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 11:20:46 PM EST
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Bloomberg v. Clinton (none / 0)

Who is worse?


by littafi on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:18:33 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

Anyone with half a brain knows that Bloomberg has sold the city of NY to big developers and its very hard for average people to find any place to live in the city. I would NOT want him as President but he would make a great spoiler candidate like Ross Perot.


by bsavage on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:44:12 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

okay- another untrue post. The reality the city is overpriced because its nyc. It was already overpriced when I moved here and he hadn't entered office yet- so what exactly are you trying to tell people here?


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 08:02:17 PM EST
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Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

i live in affordable housing. In fact, i was in a cab in the east village and there are a bunch of new buildings popping up, some of which are for lower income people.


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by sepulvedaj3 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 10:30:43 PM EST
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Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

they are trying to put in more housing but the reality is that its hard to keep up with the changing market


by bruh21 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 11:22:13 PM EST
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Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

He's running for president baby.

1992 all over again.

Whoa this is stunning and extremely signifcant.


by Djneedle83 on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:47:37 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

This is the best news I have heard for a while in terms of the 2008 election.  After Mark Warner and Evan Bayh dropped out, I wasn't sure who to vote for.


by mbfeldma on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 07:58:23 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

Bloomberg would be a great candidate for President.


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by bowiegeek on Tue Jun 19, 2007 at 08:15:15 PM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

Did you see Fineman on MSNBC? I caught a late rebroadcast and he was practically creaming his pants on camera when discussing Bloomberg as the new center.

Even the host was more skeptical.


by MNPundit on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 04:24:16 AM EST

Re: Bloomberg Leaves GOP (none / 0)

I recommend reading Jackie Salit's "The Bloomberg Story" posted on my blog The Hankster for an inside take on the Mayor's independence: "Actually, the record shows that Mike has become more conservative and less willing to go to bat for independents, the longer he has been in the political game.  But, in the early days he took stands on behalf of independents in numerous situations."

I applaud Mayor Bloomberg's nonpartisanship, and we'll see whether it's more than a political ploy...
Nancy (a New Yorker and an independent)


by nancyhanks on Wed Jun 20, 2007 at 10:40:12 AM EST


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