Obama: What a Movement Looks Like

Crossposted from BarackObama.com

In early May, we tried something that might have seemed preposterous a few years ago.

We announced that on June 9, there would be a nationwide Walk for Change, where thousands of grassroots supporters from across the country would pound the pavement in their neighborhoods and share Barack's hope for a new kind of politics. In the history of political campaigns, nothing like this-- with people in all fifty states participating this early on in a campaign-- had ever been done before. But we believed that by combining unmatched grassroots energy for a candidate with unprecedented integration of online tools, you guys could pull it off.

Below is the story, with video and photos, of Walk for Change. It's the story an unprecedented grassroots mobilization that brought more than 10,000 people out to the streets. It's the story of ordinary people working together to share their hopes and dreams; ultimately, it's the story of an effort to reclaim our democracy.

When we announced Walk for Change in may, hundreds of you began planning events in your communities, using online tools on my.BarackObama.com. The range of people who planned events was incredibly broad--- people of different cultural and religious backgrounds, political persuasions, and ages, signed up.

People like Lily of West Des Moines, Iowa, a fifteen-year-old high school sophomore, who said that she and other high school students "can make a tremendous impact" on the campaign.

"I may not be able to vote myself, but I can go out and tell my family members who generally won't caucus. My 19-year-old brother doesn't really know what the caucus is," Lily (second from the right) said. "If I can get five people to caucus for Obama in '08, it makes a bigger difference than my one vote."

The new media team worked with the field department to ensure that you all had the resources you needed to be as effective as possible in your canvassing efforts. Those of you who had at least five online RSVPs received a box of literature, stickers, and other materials. Over a thousand of these boxes went out to all fifty states, not to mention Guam, the Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico.

One of the people who received a box was Charmaine, a woman from Montgomery, Alabama. "I turned 60 years old in April, and in my entire life," Charmaine told me after receiving her box, "I have never been involved in a campaign before, never been excited about a candidate."

Charmaine grew up in the segregated South and attended an all-white high school, and became actively involved in the Civil Rights movement in college. She attended the marches in Selma, Alabama, and months ago, watched Barack commemorate those marches in Selma.

She told me that the work she's doing on this campaign was bringing her back full circle to her earlier grassroots activism. "I was very much an activist in the 60's," she says, "and at age 60, I'm getting that feeling back. I have that same energy and enthusiasm for change."

Everyone who I spoke with had a story-- a personal calling and motivation for getting involved and participating in something bigger than themselves. For nearly everyone involved, the Walk for Change was deeply personal.

On June 9th, thousands of people like Lily and Charmaine--people who were activated for the first time in their lives, and people who were activated for the first time in decades--hit the streets.

In the early states, the grassroots turnout was particularly strong. In Charleston, South Carolina, nearly a hundred people showed up in ninety-degree heat and extreme humidity to Walk for Change. Charleston field director Kevin pumped up the crowd:

One of the most passionate and tireless canvassers was Reverend Scipio, a lifelong resident of North Charleston.

When people didn't respond, he made sure to leave literature. When people told him they didn't want to talk, undeterred yet respectfully, he'd say "Well, ok, that's fine, I understand. Would you mind taking this literature to learn a little bit more about the Senator?"

Nearly everyone who was home, though, showed genuine interest in hearing about Barack. Several pledged to support him and many said they were leaning towards supporting him. Only one person responded with an unequivocal "Not interested!" when the Reverend approached him. As we began to walk away, though, his teenage son poked his head out of the door and said, "Hey you guys are with Obama? Can I see that? I'm interested."

Throughout the day, it became clear that there was something else happening-- something much bigger than merely checking off names and drumming up support for Barack. People were talking about the collective challenges facing their communities. People were sharing common hopes for change in 2008. People were connecting. And in Reverend Scipio's case, reconnecting.

The very last door Reverend Scipio knocked on brought a surprise-- the man who answered was a classmate from North Charleston High School, Class of 1969. The two hadn't seen each other in nearly four decades. After catching up, the gentleman introduced Reverend Scipio to his son-- and the Reverend, ever the canvasser, made sure to sign up the young man to register to vote. Both father and son enthusiastically agreed to support Barack and spread the word in their community.

All over the country, people were connecting and reconnecting with their neighbors.

From New York City...

To Salt Lake City...

From Omaha, Nebraska...

To Anchorage, Alaska, people Walked for Change.

In South Central, Los Angeles, an extraordinary 220 people from all different backgrounds showed up to Walk for Change.

Here's a video recap of walks that occurred all across the country.

The number of people who got involved for the first time was remarkable.

Take Antonio, who Walked for Change this Saturday:


I am very happy to have been apart of the June 9th "Walk for Change" day. I am 30 years old and this event was my first time every participating in any such political event. It was a step of faith for me putting aside my fears and moving forward. Senator Obama is fresh and exciting. He provides a sense of hope for me as a young black male who is an entrepreneur working hard to provide the American dream for my family. Today was a great day!.. Me and my mother n law hit the streets together and we got results!

Or Samantha from Wyoming, who told us:

This is the first time anything like this has been done in my community and those that had never canvassed before loved the experience. Sure, we got some grumps, but for the most part the event was received well and the participants can't wait for another opportunity like this!

Or Andre, who canvassed in front of his local grocery store:

It's been 37 years since I immigrated into this country, and I never got involved in politics before...  Well, I guess it's never too late to get started...

I talked to Russian immigrants, Asian families, whites and blacks, young couples and old ones, gays and straights, you name it.  Just about everyone seemed to agree that we had to stop the war in Iraq now, and that a universal health coverage was very much needed in the richest country in the world.

Barack often says, "If you decide that you're going to get involved, we're not only going to win an election, we're going to change the country." This is exactly what he's talking about-- reversing the dark cloud of cynicism that has loomed over our politics for too long and getting ordinary people to believe that they can make a difference, to understand that the process can work for them if they participate.

That's what happened this weekend, and that's what's happening every day in this campaign. Someone who didn't care yesterday, cares today. Someone who didn't believe in the possibility of change yesterday, believes today. Someone who never thought they'd ever get active in the political process yesterday, got active today.

For too long, special interests, lobbyists, and corporate donors have held our politics in a stranglehold. They have benefited from a status quo in which ordinary people have long felt alienated from the political process.

This weekend, the American people got engaged, and in doing so, they shook the political establishment and sent shivers through the special interests in Washington. They proved that ordinary people have the energy and tools to organize themselves and act in unison for change. They showed that, in the long run, big money is no match for a big movement.

They showed that when the people care and the grassroots gets active, the status quo can shift and the government can become ours again.



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Beautifully done... n/t (3.00 / 3)


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 12:04:21 PM EST

Thanks Sam! (none / 0)


by enarjay on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:09:11 PM EST
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New Wine in Old Bottle (3.00 / 2)

Trying to make Barack the Howard Dean of this campaign cycle won't work. He's a different candidate. It would be a failure in judgment for the Obama campaign to try to duplicate Dean's campaign. Barack Obama's communication style, his persona, his message is different from Howards Dean's. Both have their strengths in their own unique ways. Dean had a sort of in your face approach which appeals strongly to hardcore partisan Democrats while Obama is more of a conciliator, a negotiator. Dean had a movement of partisan Democrats while Obama is building a strong brood of all temperamental types: hardcore Democrats, soft Democrats, moderates, independents, some Republicans and first time stimulated voters. I was a Deaniac and yet I fully appreciate Obama's style too. This is why Obama for instance has greater appeal among moderates and independents. Obama can't beat Hillary solely by appealing to the netroots crowd. Hillary has deep establishment support. So the only way Obama beats her is by appealing to new voters, dissatified voters, independents, etc. To go the Howard Dean route to try to beat Hillary is just a fool's mission. It won't work.

Obama will hit his stride in the Fall at just the right time. There are many months left in this campaign season.


by rosebowl on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 12:27:33 PM EST

Repeating (none / 0)

the same comment as in the Armstrong diary?

Weird.  Why?


by littafi on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 12:53:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

That's Obamas campaign. There's nothing Howard Dean about it.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:12:02 PM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

He is becominga Beer Brand....the cheesecake CRUSH video confirms it. Obama is a walking lobby emdorsment.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:49:07 AM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (1.00 / 1)

Oh please. You want to really know whats becoming an old "brand"?

White Male From The South.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 02:11:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I'm pretty sure that qualifies as racist.


"If [John Edwards] seems too good to be true, well, so be it; instead, you can pick a candidate who's bad enough to be plausible." - Daily Kos user Drew
by Junior Bug on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:22:42 AM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (1.00 / 1)

I bet you call affirmative action racist too.


by sterra on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 06:12:28 AM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

To answer your rhetorical attack on my character, no, I don't.  But are you saying your advocacy of Obama's presidency is based on affirmative action?


"If [John Edwards] seems too good to be true, well, so be it; instead, you can pick a candidate who's bad enough to be plausible." - Daily Kos user Drew
by Junior Bug on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 11:11:42 AM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

yikes, I bet the millions of peopel you just described would appreciate it. And their wives. And their kids.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:36:15 PM EST
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Re: NEW Wine NEW Bottle (none / 0)

I'm fine with it - Wine gets better with age.


"I'm LeBron, baby. I can play on this level. I got some game." Barack Obama
by gb1437a on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 02:11:23 AM EST
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Re: You head it on the nail (none / 0)

Hillary and bill powerhold inside the democratic makes it hard for Obama to just depend on partisan democrats..Hillary will always get a good slice of that voting bloc because of her affiliation to Bill Clinton who is a superstar in the party.

Obama is better off by trying to build a new voting bloc that he hopes to unites and rosebowl got it 100% right...New voters, inactive voters, some hard core democrats,blacks,whites college students,moderate republicans and independents...Those are the groups that Obama is hoping to bring together to defeat Hillary.....If Obama tacks to too the far left, he will definatly loose his broad base which is suicidal..You need every single votes you can gets when you're going against clinton because they have a portion of the democratic electorate in the bag just because of their surname.

This is why Obama supporters just just disregard netroots actoivist that wants Obama to go extreme partisan on us..this is not him.


by JaeHood on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 04:19:54 PM EST
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Re: You head it on the nail (none / 0)

No unions? No unions no dice.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:37:04 PM EST
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Look outside the Box, (3.00 / 0)

Barack Obama had a huge turnout this past weekend, over 10,000 showed up and actually DID SOMETHING.  I have worked on campaigns when no one showed up.  Everyone is concerned with the constant press releases from Clinton this week, well she  is doing what she does best, take the glory/glitter off Obama's success by continuous press releases.  Why?  Because she want to control the message, resonate to the voter that their is no choice but her.  This is a good move for her.  Why?  Because Obama is her threat.  If he raises (money) what is suspect, what does he become?  A player that is still in the game.  And a royal continous, pain in the ass for Clinton.  Meaning, he has latitude to continue working on his campaign, honing his message, opening offices, etc.  No other candidate want to hear that over 10,000 people actually turned up to canvass states!  They wished that they had that idea, or better yet, hope if they did that folk would show up!!  And of course, Clinton, is going to state that if Obama beats her in Q2 it does not matter.  Deflating the perceived on-slaught, preparing her people, smart move.  But the reality is that we all know money is 50% of the campaign, without it you don't have a campaign.  So, kudos to Obama for his walk and kudos to Clinton for the PR move.

Now, Obama does need to shake it up.  He is a viable candidate, if not he would not be in the game.  I would like to see a PR/Communications move/replacement.  He needs to control HIS MEDIA better and need to be pro-active, while responsive FASTER.  That is part of PR/Communications and I am not impressed.  Is he running a good campaign, yes, but it could be tighter and BETTER.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 12:52:26 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (3.00 / 1)

You go boy!!!!!!!

Last saturday, I participated in the Walk for Change in NYC. I met two people, both college students who never participated in the political process. One young lady didn't even know who John Edwards is! The other, a young man was completely disillusioned with politics until he read Senator Obama's book.

I am a Young Democrat and because of the Walk For Change both of these people want to become active within the Democratic Party. This is a testament to Senator Obama and his movement.


by shanay4363 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 12:59:39 PM EST

Blog for Change (3.00 / 1)

I couldn't participate in the "Walk for Change" because I was invited by the Florida Democratic Party to attend the first annual Netroots/bloggers luncheon in Hollywood, FL during the JJ Dinner event.  We bloggers were also given press credentials to cover the JJ dinner with Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

I haven't posted my Blog for Change yet, because I work full time and had meetings every night this week, but I am astounded by the energy and excitement that I am witnessing.  

I usually run into the usual suspects every where I go, but this is different.  These volunteers are young and old, male and female, black, latino, asian, white and other.  They are rich and poor, straight and gay, Repubican, Democrat and Independent.  They are the melting pot we call the United States of America.  Most are newbies to politics but some are also experienced political junkies.  

They all want to hitch their wagon to something bigger than themselves.  They are choosing hope and the hard work that comes with it.  They are choosing to unite to help this remarkable man, Barack Obama become our next president.  

Most of our democratic candidates are very similar on the issues,and I will support whoever wins the Democratic nomination, but no other candidate is creating the energy on the ground like Barack Obama.  


by thefos on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:04:51 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

Thank you for posting this here.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:10:22 PM EST

What a Movement Looks Like? (3.00 / 1)

What I'm concerned about is his "movement" is about the Obama campaign.

Edwards has rallied supporters to protest the war.  John Edwards has rallied supporters to clean up local communities.  John Edwards has rallied supporters to send care packages to the troops.

Barack Obama has rallied supporters to support Barack Obama for president.

See the difference?  A movement isn't about a candidate.  And that's what I see the Obama "movement" as--a movement for Barack Obama.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:14:24 PM EST

Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (3.00 / 2)

I think it is a movement not for Obama put for the postpolitical politics we talked about a couple of days ago... Young people are really tired of the culture wars generation and think we can do a better job - that is what Obama is about.


"I'm LeBron, baby. I can play on this level. I got some game." Barack Obama
by gb1437a on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:32:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

my my... (none / 0)

oh dear.

There is reason why we have an adversarial political system. There are interests that cannot be bridged. There are interests that are in natural conflict. To pretend otherwise is to gloss over injustice and reality itself.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:03:25 PM EST
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Re: my my... (none / 0)

I don't think that the point is about avoiding confrontation when there is genuine disagreement.  Getting beyond the seemingly eternal battles left over from the culture wars of the 1960's would be good enough for me.  HRC would just be more of that.


"In the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it." Barack Obama
by whitbreadale on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:15:34 PM EST
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Re: my my... (none / 0)

Yes, Obama is the King of Politicians. He's the New Coke, Lean Cuisine, iPod, Hip Hop, he's   President O!

This over marketing will end in tears.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:54:14 AM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (3.00 / 1)

I'd agree with that statement if Obama was for getting over the culture wars in order focus on the true fights that have to do with globalization, neoliberalization and environmental meltdown (all of which are related).

But he's not. He wants to move on to.....what? A new era of talking about problems and eternal splitting of the differences between (moderate) Democrats and (conservative) Republicans to come up with solutions?


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:11:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hair splitting/fugding (none / 0)

He will end up confusing people.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:39:31 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (3.00 / 2)

Registering voters and becoming involved in electoral politics is what Obama's movement is about. It is also about electing Obama, duh.

Community cleanups and ant-war protests do not get a president elected. They are good things in and of themselves, but there already are anti-war and cleanup groups. We do not need Edwards to "lead" those movements. To get the massive changes we need, we need a good president. Edwards may well be a better one than the others. But he won't ever get to prove it if he insists on using his followers for work non-partisan groups like Habitat for umanity already excel at.


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by demondeac on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:32:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

But but he's President O.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:55:28 AM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

More like house of cards? We shall see in a few months at ballot booths.


by lambiel on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:39:15 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

I protested the war in 02, Raleigh NC, didn't see JE there.


by parahammer on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:43:59 PM EST
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Actually Feb 03.....EOM (none / 0)


by parahammer on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:47:10 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

JE voted against funding the war in 2004...
...something most dems still can't claim...and Obama never even expressed an opinion during the current round...and only voted "no" after it was already a fait accompli...
...basically the Obama campaign is nothing more than a book tour gone wild. ( with a naive cult of personality) Nothing wrong with him, just nothing really to say...
 Just "let's all get along" "new kind of politics" generalities.

This race should be Queen Hillary duking it out with Edwards for the soul of the party. Obama is just muddingly the waters.


John McCain: Country Club First!
by demwords on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 05:58:26 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

JE voted against funding the war in 2004...

But he insisted he would never cut off funding - he explained his no vote by saying that he knew Congress would never let the war go unfunded, so he voted no on a particular bill in an attempt to get a better one written.

Which I have no problem with as a legislative strategy, but he wasn't trying to stop the war at that point.


by Dave Thomer on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:36:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

We've got three choices (none / 0)

  • Hillary who is the DLC candidate- who is corporatist and charmless - It's about entitlement
  • Obama with a big smile & vague generalizations, and no fire in the gut - It's about book sales and hanger on DC consultants
-Edwards a strong advocate for most of the progressive positions - It's about time!!
John McCain: Country Club First!
by demwords on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:54:52 PM EST
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Re:JE did vote for the war (none / 0)

john boy did vote for the war did'nt you look at the facts obama said the war would go just like it  is going and also john boy is at 10%


by edward on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:22:24 PM EST
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Re:JE did vote for the war (none / 0)

And Obama boy kept voting to fund the occupation in 2005, 2006 and 2007 until he realized that it wasn't helpful for his campaign.  Edwards is at 31% in Iowa.


I am an Edwards Democrat. Visit EENR blog for Progressives
by pioneer111 on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:13:14 AM EST
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Re:JE did vote for the war (none / 0)

You missed the point...

We have three choices and when push comes to shove Obama is the weakest candidate and Edwards is the strongest. These early name recognition polls are in no way going to resemble real elections. Obama stands for nothing except book sales.


John McCain: Country Club First!
by demwords on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 01:26:06 AM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

It's a branding or market exercise by ADM. David Brinkley and The Cokie Stooges meet Hip Hop.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:57:10 AM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

"And that's what I see the Obama "movement" as--a movement for Barack Obama."

You say this like it's a bad thing. A movement can certainly be about a candidate, why not?


by Korha on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:45:58 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (3.00 / 1)

Because then instead of people working for the greater good, they work for the good of the candidate. It turns into a cult of personality and people lose their democratic (small d) duty to speak truth to power and to hold those in power accountable for their actions. Much like what happened with the Bush presidency from Sept. 11, 2001 until about Feb. 2005 (or until 2007 if you count the GOP congress).

It's good for people to be inspired by leaders and for leaders to have the ability to make people want to work for the greater good and to be a part of something bigger than themselves. It's bad for people to worship the leader.


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:15:07 PM EST
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Worship? Strawman argument (none / 0)

I am disturbed myself by the people who "worship" Obama, for precisely the reasons you suggest. However these people are only a very small minority of his supporters, and they are no louder or more numerous than the various hardcore believers who "worship" Edwards or Clinton.

The vast majority of Obama supporters understand that he's a flawed person, just like all the rest of us. But we feel that these flaws are outweighed by the many positive aspects of his character and his candidacy. We have come to the reasoned conclusion that he's the best candidate in the race. The reasons aren't the same--they're very diverse--and some are better than others, but they're absolutely legitimate and I think it's inappropriate on your part to compare Obama supporters to the Cult of George Bush.  

Walk for Change was about... yes, about electing Barack Obama President. What should it have been about? There's a lot of grassroots energy for his candidacy out there, and events like Walk for Change were an attempt on the part of the campaign to harness that energy constructively. As you said, the 10,000 people who participated (I regret I could not) were inspired by Obama and Obama is encouraging them to be a part of something bigger than themselves--the Obama campaign mostly, to be sure, but also the progressive policies and ideas that underly that campaign.

What more could you ask for?


by Korha on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:24:02 PM EST
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Re: Worship? Strawman argument (none / 0)

I was addressing the comment that someone asked what was wrong with a movement that was just about Obama.


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:38:07 PM EST
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Re: What a Movement Looks Like? (none / 0)

Edwards has rallied supporters to protest the war.  John Edwards has rallied supporters to clean up local communities.  John Edwards has rallied supporters to send care packages to the troops.

Barack Obama has rallied supporters to support Barack Obama for president.

See the difference?  A movement isn't about a candidate.  And that's what I see the Obama "movement" as--a movement for Barack Obama.

Rallying supporters to protest the war doesn't help unless he has a good idea of how to get Bush to bring the troops home in a responsible way--and he doesn't. But it does make him look good, which is what John Edwards is all about. All those things are designed to make John Edwards look good for his campaign. It's like one of those big companies that spend $20,000 to build a playground for underprivileged kids, then spends $20,000,000 to tell everyone about it.


by Mystylplx on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 11:59:04 AM EST
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Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (3.00 / 0)

To Vox:

If you don't think that Obama has rallied supporters who are against this war...or who want to better there communities...or support our troops, then you're just not paying attention.  Barack Obama has INSPIRED millions of people, who have never been involved in politics before to join together to help this man succeed because of who he is. His values, his honesty, his integrity, his authenticity.  You may feel Edwards has all those things....but just because you don't see them in Obama doesn't mean those qualities aren't there.  


by For Obama on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:33:21 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

You should see Obama stump for E85. He's ADM's most effective salesman.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:58:42 AM EST
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Fans, Not A Movement (3.00 / 2)

The Beatles had a lot more fans than Obama does.  And they were much more enthusiastic.

So citing youth, enthusiasm, involvement, etc., while nice, does nothing to address the question of whether Obama has a movement/is a movement candidate, or whatever.

It just shows the same sort of fuzzy thinking that makes a lot of experienced movement people shake their heads.

I just hope that those who are getting involved in politics because of him will grow more mature without growing stale, cynical and calculating... like Obama's advisors seem to be.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 01:50:02 PM EST

Movements like this eat their young. (none / 0)

I'm not being cynical here but college kids are not moving much in Arizona.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:05:52 PM EST
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Re: Movements like this eat their young. (none / 0)

ENOUGH with the misogynistic comments. Go excuse yourself and handle your "business" if you must, but enough already.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:26:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This video has everyone talking about OBAMA... (none / 0)

it has been all over the news and just was released @ 10A yesterday.

barelypolitical.com

New video tomorrow.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 08:10:00 PM EST
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Re: This video has everyone talking about OBAMA... (none / 0)

It is soft porn, and I wouldn't be too thrilled about it.  I think it demeans Obama and the presidential campaign.  


I am an Edwards Democrat. Visit EENR blog for Progressives
by pioneer111 on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:15:41 AM EST
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Re: This video has everyone talking about OBAMA... (3.00 / 0)

Well, hold your horses.  There will be MORE OUT THERE on these politicians.  As they "use" youtube, they do, a cheap, effective way to get their messages out.  Now they can not "control" the whole content.  Ignore it, anyone who looks at this video with "common sense" know that Obama's campaign had nothing to do with it, nothing.  Just like Obama ignored Limbaugh and his racist comments/songs, the story is dead.  It is when you engage the other, that is blows up to be a story.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 01:02:41 AM EST
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Re: Movements like this eat their young. (none / 0)

Beer Commercial. Obama is just a brand now.  It's very apt. He's a frontman.


by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:59:53 AM EST
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Re: Fans, Not A Movement (3.00 / 1)

It's a movement to make Barack Obama president, and doing quite well so far, I would say.


by Korha on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:32:42 PM EST
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Re: Fans, Not A Movement (3.00 / 1)

In other words, a campaign.


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by clarkent on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 11:21:54 AM EST
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Re: Fans, Not A Movement (none / 0)

I'd love to hear you expand this, Paul. My sense is that some of us are talking at cross-purposes, and what I mean by 'movement' isn't what someone else means by the same word.

A little definition might go a long way.

Hm. Or might just lead in the same old circles.


by BingoL on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:52:02 PM EST
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Re: Fans, Not A Movement (3.00 / 2)

I've just been through this all over at DKos earlier today, in the same diary posted over there.  Most to the point is
this comment, reproduced here, but you should check out the original for the thread it's a part of:

Movement: Examples, More Than Definition

A movement is about an issue, and takes a stand on it.

Examples: Abolitionist Movement.  Women's Suffrage Movement. Labor Movement. Populist Movement. Progressive Movement. Civil Rights Movement. Anti-War Movement. Feminist Movement. Gay Rights Movement. Environmental Movement.

Movement candidates are those whose candidacy is closely aligned with an existing movement (or movements), and widely seen as a vehicle for advancing that movement, or a candidate whose candidacy is seen as nurturing an emerging movement.

Examples: Pretty much all the Republican candidates in 1860. William Jennings Bryan. Teddy Roosevelt. Eugene Debs. Franklin Roosevelt. RFK and Eugene McCarthy (1968). George McGovern (1972). Jesse Jackson. Ross Perot.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:49:20 PM EST
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Re: Fans, Not A Movement (none / 0)

I'm not currently an Obama supporter, but is it possible he's fronting a movement not yet named? A generational-change movement? An anti-Boomer movement?

Pretty weak tea, as far as movements go, but might explain some things, too.

And thanks for the response.


by BingoL on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 10:36:20 AM EST
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Re: THE BEATLES ARE FO REAL (1.00 / 1)

THE BEATLES THEY DEAD AND OBAMA IS ALIVE THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE


by edward on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:27:16 PM EST
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First I heard of this event (3.00 / 1)

Reminds me of Howard Dean back in '03.


by dpANDREWS on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:30:46 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (3.00 / 3)

I wasn't talking about just young people...although they're definately there.  I'm talking about ALL ages, shapes and sizes. The diversity in the crowds supporting Obama are unparalleled.


by For Obama on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 02:53:03 PM EST

My Cross-Post from DKos... (none / 0)

As this diary was cross-posted at DKos, there's no reason not to do the same:

Was this a Walk for Change...or a Walk for Obama?  What is the change involved here?

I see a lot of enthusiasm for a candidate.  Where is the change being offered?  When the walk is NOT about a candidate, I'll see it as change.

For what it's worth, Edwards's One Corps, while a local action arm of the campaign, engages in real change to help build the one America we all believe in, through local service projects and issue advocacy to start transforming America today.

Be it presenting ways to reduce our carbon footprint in NYC, St. Louis or Indiana, or participating in a blood drive as part of the National Day of Health Care Action in Pinellas County, Florida, or working to revitalize a public green space in downtown Miami, it is about CREATING the change itself.

http://blog.johnedwards.com/onecorps

I hope the Walk for Change will culminate in something similar.  That is what a movement should be all about.


by citizen53 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:44:12 PM EST

Re: My Cross-Post from DKos... (3.00 / 5)

I'm currently a fairly tepid Edwards supporter, but my take is this:

To a large extent, to his supporters, Obama is the change. For a number of reasons. A) he represents a genuine generational change. B) he embodies, with his personal history and his race, a true political watershed moment, and C) due to his character and his instincts, he'll build consensus and bridges not in the old 'triangulation' fashion, but by gathering people together and moving them ahead. And, perhaps most important, D), he'll win by such a large majority that he'll simply crush the Republican party, with huge coattails, and this will usher in a new progressive American moment, even if he personally isn't a progressive firebrand.

As I said, I'm not an Obama supporter at the moment, but I think that so much of this O vs. E back and forth is because the two candidates represent very different visions. And either one, measured by the other's yardstick, comes up short.

None of which has anything to do with what a 'movement' looks like--or even what a 'movement' is, which I think is a pretty important question the diarist overlooks ...


by BingoL on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:58:42 PM EST
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Re: My Cross-Post from DKos... (3.00 / 0)

I just hope that once the Obama vs edwards battle is over, we can all move on and get on board with the winner...


by JaeHood on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:14:37 PM EST
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Re: My Cross-Post from DKos... (none / 0)

With Hillary, you mean?


by BingoL on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:48:39 PM EST
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Re: no obama (none / 0)

hillary is fake


by edward on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:29:53 PM EST
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Once again I would be down with that vision if point 'C' didn't seem to be complete BS. I cannot think of one single thing where Obama has come forward with a solution or a proposal that can be considered a "leftist" proposal. If he's really serious that it doesn't matter where the best ideas come from to solve problems as long as they are the best ideas, then surely at least one idea from the left would be the best idea right? But not according to Obama. That's why I'm not buying what he's selling. I think his building bridges rhetoric is nothing more than a means to justify perpetual governance from the mushy middle.


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:21:05 PM EST
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I'll admit that 'C' seems weak to me, as well. But it's just a matter of trust. Either you trust that Obama will do this, or you don't. Either you trust that Edwards actually is as progressive as he's now talking, or you don't. I'm closer with Edwards than Obama, at the moment, but I recognize this is just a matter of personal preference, really.


by BingoL on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:10:22 PM EST
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Re: My Cross-Post from DKos... (3.00 / 2)

At least the trust with Edwards is based on some set of policies with which he can be held accountable to. And Edwards isn't even giving the spiel that the best ideas may be conservative ones. He just flat out thinks progressive ideology is the better of the two.

I see no such set of policies from Obama. And the sop to conservative ideology troubles me as well.


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:14:24 PM EST
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Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

I'm not a fan of "canvassing", the wrong people knocking on doors can be devastating to a campaign...See Dean '04 in Iowa.

A movement is more like Edwards' OneCorps with an emphasis on community service, not annoying the neighbors.


by catchawave on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:03:22 PM EST

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Those neighbors need to canvass though. That's why I'd be trying to get every possible precinct committee chair across the country on my team if I were in charge.


by adamterando on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:21:58 PM EST
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Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

They've seen Dean in Iowa. That's why they're training the canvassers. They gave out a training video to all canvass hosts that was played and canvassing guides where handed out to canvassers.

Also in the Iowa and other early states there giving even more training.

A social movement is more like OneCorps. And I think campaigns should have things like OneCorps on the side but you need a political movement to win elections, which is what the candidates are all trying to do.  


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by Populista on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 12:19:51 AM EST
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I think the diarist and Jerone (none / 0)

are looking at what a "movement" means with completely different frameworks.


by okamichan13 on Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:25:06 PM EST

Maybe when you are not part of the movement (none / 0)

I dont feel part of any campaign---perhaps  I dont feel the movement.  I dont know about Obama's supporters, what they feel about it.

Also a movement is about a mission to change.

What is their mission?

Dean and Clark were about Iraq War and Orwellian media, govt etc that we felt only Dean and Clark were addressing.

Obama--well they all seem alike--their message between them are blurred.  Even Hillary managed to blur her Iraq stance and remove the difference from her competitors.


by jasmine on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:41:48 AM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

Ah, don't listen to the negative comments.

I'm sure most of the people dissing you are Edwards supporters.

They're always attacking Obama.


by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 10:32:08 AM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (3.00 / 1)

I met ten Obama supporters in the park this morning in New York.  They were all wearing Obama shirts or caps.  I asked them, as a group, and then I asked four of them individually why they were supporting Obama.  I got two answers.  He rocks! and He's the best!

None of them knew a thing about what Obama stands for and only one even knew he had a healthcare reform plan.

They were 18 to 21 years old (my best guess).  I didn't feel like asking them their ages. In short, they are Obama "fans".  God help us if a bunch of uninformed fans put our next President in the Whitehouse.


by samueldem on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 10:55:26 AM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

I know a sixteen year old that could have answered your questions.


by parahammer on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 11:50:52 AM EST
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The movement is a movement away from the politics embodied in the thought that if somehow you don't agree with me then your opinion and action is somehow inauthentic.  Vox Populi writes a piece about why he connects with Edwards and then comes on here and tells me, as one of those pictured above, that we don't really know what we are doing.  That in essence we are cult worshippers attracted to personality and not substance.  The movement aspect of this is to move away from that type of thinking.

This "cult", this "rockstar" phenomenom has its roots for most of us back at the 2004 convention when Obama came on and said there's not a red America, and a white America, but one America.  That's what's at the heart of this, a call to move away from the divisiveness of American politics which has really crippled this country as well as our party.  Far too many so-called Progressives are too wrapped up in this senseless and insulting bickering that gets friends acting toward one another as if they are enemies.

A calling "to put ourselves in someone else's shoes; to see the world through those who are different from us" is what got people to come out in record numbers.  It's one of the reasons why I drove 50 miles to walk in South-Central rather than 10 miles to Thousand Oaks.  You can dismiss that as being inauthentic.  You can be cynical about that.  But that's an old road rapidly aging.  


by Doug Dilg on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 02:29:58 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

Obama's movement is about bridging partisan politics and bring it together so it could work for the people, not just for a specific party...Im a democrat, but i also understand that half of the country do not agree with my party value or ideology..Is it right for me to force my value down the throat of the other half of the country that are conservative and do not agree with everything i believe in??

We want to end divisivness and walk to seek position where we can agree on to help the people,conservatives and liberals.

This is what the movement is about..Young people dont give a fuck about democrats or republicans, they just want to go to college and be able to find jobs etc etc..all this partisan food fight is sickening.


by JaeHood on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 02:59:15 PM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

I think that's the Harry Reid movement you're describing there.  Nothing can stop it! Except Republicans! That's our slogan.


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by Junior Bug on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 04:05:03 PM EST
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Over 70% of the country want out of Iraq.  Not 50%,  The majority, and yet the Dems voted with the Repubs.  What was that about?  Obama didn't say boo about his vote and what the other Dems should do.  What bridging was going on?

The majority country want environmental standards.  Why is Obama bridging our values to the coal lobby and sponsoring a coal to liquid bill in the senate?

Your argument is delusional.  Obama's rhetoric is great.  His actions, not so much.


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by pioneer111 on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:28:43 PM EST
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Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

Let's examine this.  Sen. Feingold was quoted in a diary this week saying Obama has been one of the most helpful and effective Senators in Congress in terms of pushing the agenda to get us out of Iraq.  I guess what you are talking about is the Supplemental Bill.  Look at the three approaches to the issue reflected in the last debate.

Edwards: He claims to be a leader because he spoke out about funding and if you want to get out of Iraq this is the way it should be done and he's the only one leading.  But it doesn't seem many people followed.  But he did manage to drive home the point that the Democratic Congress is weak and not getting us out fast enough.  I'm not sure how this is helpful is but the latest poll shows the Congress is more unpopular than the President. Good job.

Clinton: Drove home that this is Bush's War not the Democrats, and by extension this is the Republican's War.  She's at least protecting the Democrats, but it is the same old divide.

Obama: Said this is too important and too difficult,an issue to play politics with and then went on to say Biden, who voted differntly than himself, has a legitimate point of view which should be respected.

Now all 3 want to get us out of Iraq and we all know we need to get more votes over to our side to create a veto-proof majority. Whose actions stands the best chance to accomplish that? The one who said you all stink, the one who said half of you stink, or the one who spoke kindly of you while expressing opposition?


by Doug Dilg on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:44:39 PM EST
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The movement is for real - I am visiting Texas for a couple weeks, and people, mostly republican leaning, keep telling me two things A: "They want to make sure Hillary doesn't win the Primary" B: "Tell me about this Obama guy, you know I don't really like him on abortion - but I think we need him now" (I have talked two about 10 people about the 08 race here, and this has been the reaction).


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by gb1437a on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 02:21:07 AM EST

Re: Obama: What a Movement Looks Like (none / 0)

We will see how far Obama's movement goes.  I think he must be getting pretty worried about now considering he unleashed his thugs on Hillary and offended tens of thousands of people in the process, including some of the most respected progressive bloggers on the internet.

Movement?  We'll see about that.


by samueldem on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 02:34:41 AM EST

movement (1.00 / 1)

This 'movement' is going really well, I guess.

It has the real potential to rival Edwards' 'haircut'. Shudder.


by lambiel on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 11:34:18 AM EST


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