Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Difficulties

Given the discussions here over the last twenty-four hours, I would like to keep discussing diversity in the progressive, political blogosphere. This is good stuff, and it is a rich vein that I would like to keep tapping--Chris

Many blogs, including MyDD, are often chastised for not focusing on a wider range of issues. However, I firmly believe that one of the key aspects to the success of any blog is focusing on a narrow topic range, and developing original, expert, insightful content on that topic range. If MyDD was a broadly based, all policy areas, all current events blog, I do not believe we would be viable. My specific fear is that if we dropped our content focus, I believe that about 90% of our audience would quickly move to larger group blogs like Dailykos, which boasts a larger writing team that can more effectively cover a wider range of issues than we can. Thus, in order to maintain viability, we at MyDD have to focus our content on topics almost no one else covers, even though we are often criticized for not covering certain topics as a result of this. In fact, without question, the most frequent form of criticism I receive is: "why aren't you blogging about x?"

This struggle over diversity of content is actually one of the main points of tension in discussions of demographic and cultural diversity in the blogosphere. Among progressives, discussions of content diversity can quickly translate into discussions of cultural diversity regarding the people producing the content. That is to say, progressives often consider the demographic and cultural groups of which a given person is a member to be a prime cause of the content that person produces. For example, the much of the progressive, political blogosphere is often criticized for not writing on labor issues because participants in the blogosphere are reasonably wealthy. In either a general or specific sense, this argument is not necessarily wrong or right--it is just difficult to quantify. To what extent does an individual's position within a broadly defined cultural and demographic group impact the specific content s/he produces on a daily basis? Undeniably, there is some impact, but in any given case it is difficult to say how much.

Put this altogether, and it produces a very difficult tension: how can individual blogs maintain the content focus which is necessary to their viability, while also achieving cultural diversity that is an undeniable progressive, and useful, goal? The answer, I believe, is that when large group blogs, many of which have attained at least a modicum of institutional power within their area of focused content, are looking for new writers, diversity should be a priority among said searches. However, this search for diversity should mean a more diverse set of voices that also focus on the given blog's topic area, not culturally diverse voices that would introduce new topics outside of that area.

Much more in the extended entry, including the details of a practical case study on why this isn't so easy.

Let me move from the abstract and the generalizing to the specific and concrete. To give an example with which I am intimately familiar, I have long believed that MyDD should look for women and writers of color who focus on election analysis and political infrastructure, not just women and writers of color in general. I discovered the dangers of the latter the hard way back in August 2004 when I was looking for someone to guest post for me during a two-week stint when I was working as a street canvasser to raise money for the DNC (a job which I sucked at). I wanted a women who was a popular diarist at Dailykos, so I offered it to Maryscott O'Connor. However, it became clear pretty quickly that the topics on which she wrote simply did not mesh with the topics the established MyDD audience had come to expect. (Honestly, it had nothing to do with the tone of her writing or anything related to the recent meta discussions in which she has been involved--it was simply a matter of content focus). The lesson I learned was that increasing front-page diversity on MyDD did not help the site if it took the site off-topic.

Diversity must be achieved within a given blog's area of focus in order for it to be a valuable addition to that blog. Some may think that this point is obvious, and that I am belittling the discussion of diversity in the progressive, political blogosphere by making it. However, considering the constant struggles over what topics deserves to be front-page topics on major blogs, it is not a small point at all. Calls for more diversity in content and more diversity among writers often go hand in hand. This does not necessarily have to be the case, as I think commenters plukasiak, aiko, and kid oakland described in my previous thread. For example, plukasiak wrote the following with which I absolutely agree:
I think this boils down to a single question....

what are the criteria/processes for adding new "front pagers" to an existing blog, and do those criteria/processes encourage diversity within the existing blog's niche.
For large group blogs that have attained a certain institutional power within their niche, that is certainly an important question. We should work to make certain we are encouraging diversity within our niches.

However, looking with more detail into the process of finding new bloggers who can effectively cover your niche reveals many problems beyond simply adhering to a principle of diversity when it comes time to make new hires. First, it needs to be remembered that independent, progressive, political blogs are not viable means of full-time employment for all but a dozen or so people nationwide. As someone was has long struggled to make a living from independent blogging, it is always in the back of my head that if I hire a new writer, then my income will drop unless that new writer can increase the blog's revenue by at least 40% in the case of a full-time writer like Matt, or 20%.in the case of a half-time writer like Jonathan. Finding someone who can do that is extremely difficult, especially when one considers the limited pool of bloggers who focus on MyDD's topic areas. Further, considering time constraints and immediate financial pressures, I don't have the luxury of training someone who can fill that role at some point a few months from now. Whoever I hire needs to be able to hit the ground running with between ten and twenty insightful posts a week on our topic area, which requires between twenty and sixty hours of work every week, or else it simply is not viable for me to hire that person. There just are not many people who fit the bill.

Let me put all of this in practical terms. Back in November of 2005, which was the last time I engaged in a hiring process at MyDD, Jonathan Singer was the only applicant. After I waited a couple of days, when no one else applied, I just gave him the weekend job without even so much as an interview. Fortunately, I was familiar with his writing, which intersected with both MyDD and my personal interests to such a degree that I once nominated Jonathan's earlier project, Basie! for a "Best New Blog" Koufax award. (In fact, when it comes to understanding just how narrow MyDD's focus is, it is worth noting that no one seconded that nomination, and so Basie! did not even move into the semifinals of that competition). As far as the full-time job went, when absolutely no one applied, I just offered it to Matt, with whom I had already worked on several infrastructure projects, and who had a lot of past blogging experience (including MyDD experience). When they both accepted, and hit the ground running, MyDD was greatly improved. With virtually no one applying, with the economic pressures I faced, with the content pressures I still face, and with the extremely limited talent pool, rather than viewing that hiring process as a disappointment, I still think of finding and hiring Matt and Jonathan as a remarkable stroke of good luck. They might have been the only two people in the country who were able to bit the bill, and I am thrilled to work with them.

Considering the profile MyDD requires--a minimum of ten posts a week on election analysis and / or political infrastructure from a progressive slant--even today I still don't know who I could find as a new part-time or full-time writer for MyDD apart from Jonathan and Matt. That is actually one of the main reasons Scott Shields was never replaced: I simply have no suggestions for a replacement, or anyone even asking to replace him. Further, when I can't even think of a single person who can fit the bill, I don't really know how to add diversity to the process. However, if you think you can do it, if you don't need any training, if you have past professional political experience, if you are willing to write under your real name, and if you don't expect a huge amount of money for what you write, then by all means, email me at chirs@mydd.com. I am absolutely serious about this. Please provide links to your past writing, along with an explanation of how you will find the time to produce the amount of content we seek (a minimum of ten original posts every week, and preferably more, the vast majority of which should be focused on election analysis and / or political infrastructure). Women, minorities and regular participants in the MyDD community are encouraged to apply. An overtly progressive slant is also required.

The purpose of this post is to introduce a real world example demonstrating the difficulties involved with increasing diversity in the progressive, political blogosphere. So far, I think our discussions have been rather general and based more on principles than on practical matters. However, when I am told that MyDD needs writers who represent a more diverse set of cultural backgrounds, these are the very specific and practical problems I face in achieving that goal. It is virtually impossible to find anyone who fits the bill as a writer on MyDD, even before I get to the issue of making sure that the writers I find are sufficiently diverse. I am certain that the difficulties I face at MyDD--finding someone to fit a very narrow profile to do a very difficult job with very low compensation--is replicated in many other places. That needs to be taken into consideration regarding discussions of diversity and the progressive, political blogosphere in general.

Achieving diversity is much more difficult in a new industry with virtually no resources at its disposal. We don't have the resources for search committees. We don't have the resources for training sessions. We don't have a large talent pool we can count on. We don't even have the resources to pay the people we hire much money. We are nowhere near the equivalent of an established university, news outlet, government agency, corporation, or non-profit organization in our ability to achieve these goals (even though, as a whole, the progressive political blogosphere is still probably more diverse than most of the organizations that fit any of the descriptions I just listed). In many ways, finding means to make the progressive, political blogosphere sustainable over the long term and finding ways to make the progressive, political blogosphere more diverse are intractably connected with one another. As such, solving this problem has been one of my three main goals in politics over the past three years, and has occupied an enormous amount of my time and energy.

It is not an easy problem to solve. Until the problem is solved, it will result in our demographics skewing toward groups who have the time, access, and relative resource safety to participate in it without reliable compensation. That means people without children or other dependents to care for, people with more free time to spend online, people with regular broadband access, people who can more easily move between jobs, and people with an already established high level of digital literacy. Given all of this, is it any wonder that the progressive, political blogosphere skews toward the wealthy, the highly educated, and the white male? Generally speaking, in America today, those are the demographic groups who can more safely participate in the progressive, political blogosphere despite the low resources the general lack of compensation it has to offer its most dedicated participants. It isn't simply matter of the "leaders" of the community having a more open mind and effective outreach program. The progressive, political blogosphere faces serious, structural resources problems on multiple fronts, and the diversity problem will not be solved until those structural resource problems are also solved. Suggestions on how to do so are extremely welcome.

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Suggestions? (1.00 / 2)

We can stop with this modern version of Jim Crow rhetoric and maybe we can have a decent conversation on the subject!


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 05:41:26 PM EST

A decent convsersation (3.00 / 4)

Well, I'm glad your rhetoric on the subject is so decent as to facilitate that.
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 05:53:22 PM EST
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Chris (none / 0)

this post was more clear to me than the first two. Before this one, I was unsure whether you were talking only about topics that should be covered at MyDD or whether this was some meta conversation about whether MyDD needs more diverse voices on the front page. Thanks for clarifying.


by taylormattd on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:16:32 PM EST
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Re: Suggestions? (3.00 / 4)

look there are problems but your style is over the top. learn to modulate what you say according to the context. placing chris or anyone here along the context of jim crow is offensive to me as a black person because it says you don't know the difference. that's scary.


by bruh21 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 05:58:05 PM EST
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Re: Suggestions? (1.00 / 1)

I would go back and double check that. Voter suppression is voter suppression no matter what method is used to achieve it.

If people don't want to be seen in that light or come off that way, then they would not attempt to make the argument that would suggest only white males in a specific tax bracket have the authority to define progressivism. I am not sure if you read each of the posts and the comments following as they were all quite lengthy, but I did.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:12:18 PM EST
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Re: Suggestions? (none / 0)

I am done with you. good luck.


by bruh21 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 10:03:44 PM EST
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Let Me Clarify My Precious Comment (1.00 / 1)

I find it absolutely frightening , the unwillingness for some on the Left to shy away from talking about race relations issues. Even worse, they call themselves Progressives. I have never in my life heard of a Progressive movement that only included one race , one gender and one tax bracket.

Ever!


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 05:52:45 PM EST

Re: Let Me Clarify My Precious Comment (3.00 / 2)

And how, exactly, does this post shy away from talking about race? And how does it not seek to address the issue of diversity in the blogosphere?

I'm talking about it. I'm being as open as I can about the issue. I'm asking for suggestions. Just telling me that I am supporting Jim Crow doesn't get us anywhere.
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 05:56:50 PM EST
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Re: Let Me Clarify My Precious Comment (1.00 / 1)

I'm not talking about just this post Chris. I read them all. You continue to ignore the responses when you keep justifying your position on diversity.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:04:07 PM EST
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Suggestions were already submitted (none / 0)

Chris,

I guess you didn't see what was just posted in response to your entry on this very website. Here are the suggestions you requested. Please try not to go down this list and dismiss each one.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/5/7/15286 /27734


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:07:05 PM EST
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by alw on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:07:07 PM EST

I don't have an answer either. (none / 0)

That's why I asked KO last night directly. People tend to hang with people like themselves. That's why it is both important to be aware and reach out for diversity and at the same time difficult to do so. Just as you mentioned regarding Jonathan/Matt, finding anyone who is the right fit is a really infinitesimal universe; adding another search criteria just makes the universe smaller.

I also agree that filling this niche is what makes MyDD the blog I choose to read. If I want topical, I can always go to DKos. I like the active bent of this site, like this discussion. Although it's been pretty meta in nature, the goal here is still some sort of action.

I'm rambling just to hear myself type here I guess as I really don't have a good answer. You're leading the discussion. That's a start. You are aware. That's a start. Maybe those who feel this start in inadequate can take the lead for a while. But what do I know. I fit the demographic.


Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:14:36 PM EST

Hadn't realized... (none / 0)

...we were so close to not having the MyDD we know and love today!

And, given that the site is (so far as I know) unique in the combination of focus, quantity and quality of material on political process, another reason to be grateful...


by skeptic06 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:18:19 PM EST

The way to do it (3.00 / 2)

IMO, is not to try to stick racially or gender "balanced" voices on blogs where the writing profile is highly specialized, but to do a better job of linking to those who are already there.  When I say "linking," I don't mean blogrolling -- I'm talking about actually reading and responding to the content of women and minority bloggers in one's own front-page posts.

Now, this isn't meant as a strategy for MyDD.  Frankly, I can't think of a blog that is LESS suited to encouraging diversity in ANY form than MyDD, unless maybe it's Swing State Project.  The problem with MyDD and SSP is that their focus is one hundred percent political (and in SSP's case, strategic); most of the more prominent female and minority voices out there are astute cultural critics who eschew direct political action and simply aren't interested in the minutae that are discussed here and at SSP.

The diversity problem isn't with MyDD or other political analysis blogs, it's with the cultural criticism blogs that don't link across race and gender boundaries.  When was the last time that, say, Ezra Klein linked to, say, BrownFemiPower?  Or even went over there and engaged in comments?  The problem is that there's a "blackosphere" and a "whitosphere," a "femisphere" and a male-dominated 'sphere.  A blog like MyDD isn't really a part of any of these 'spheres, though it's to your credit that you're interested in the issues.  You're simply not situated to fix the problem, and adding a token woman or minority to the MyDD front-page staff won't solve the problem.


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by Nonpartisan on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:21:55 PM EST

Re: The way to do it (2.00 / 2)

Token?

Just another excuse to not act. Pretend that we don't want to look as though we're pushing a token for the sake of having a woman or minority , so we'll just keep it white and male?

Classic and cheap.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:27:27 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (3.00 / 1)

I don't think you've addressed on of Chris' main points which is, what woman and/or minority is out there who is positioned to do this job given the financial restraints, time demands, and required high level of insight and analysis.  I don't hear any resistance to hiring such a person.  In fact, I hear just the opposite; that if such a person exists, they're enthusiastically welcome.  But they haven't asked and/or are not available. That isn't MyDD's fault.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:42:08 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (1.00 / 1)

They have not been sought.

That is MyDD's problem.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:52:22 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (3.00 / 1)

How do you know? And have you sought them out?


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:54:54 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (1.00 / 2)

OMG!

Did you read the posts? He pretty much admits it.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:28:32 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (3.00 / 1)

Let me put all of this in practical terms. Back in November of 2005, which was the last time I engaged in a hiring process at MyDD, Jonathan Singer was the only applicant. After I waited a couple of days, when no one else applied, I just gave him the weekend job without even so much as an interview.

Where were they when the job was open? One would assume, if they are writing on the subject of progressive electoral politics, they would be reading MyDD.

Next up:

Further, when I can't even think of a single person who can fit the bill, I don't really know how to add diversity to the process. However, if you think you can do it, if you don't need any training, if you have past professional political experience, if you are willing to write under your real name, and if you don't expect a huge amount of money for what you write, then by all means, email me

I can only presume that he should expect a flood of emails on this point right? Since they're out there and he's openly pleading with them to come write here? Let's see if it happens.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:41:27 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (2.00 / 2)

One would assume, if they are writing on the subject of progressive electoral politics, they would be reading MyDD.

Um... why? I think that is a false assumption, especially if MyDD concentrates on different areas than someone with different perspectives might.

Plus, I'm fairly certain that any number of people have never heard of MyDD, mostly because they don't read kos or any of the other feeder sites.

I can only presume that he should expect a flood of emails on this point right? Since they're out there and he's openly pleading with them to come write here? Let's see if it happens.

Also not very realistic.

I think it's already pretty well established that the readership of this blog is not very diverse... so placing such an "ad" only (and I don't know if it is only) within a blog post on that same non diverse blog does not really give one cause to hope for success.


by Nanette K on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:58:11 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (3.00 / 2)

Because this is one of the, if not the, biggest sites for electoral analysis on the internet.  I'm wary of anyone who blogs on the same subject and doesn't at least come here for information, if perhaps not narratives.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 08:25:34 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (none / 0)

I am not sure why? You would be wary, that is.

Mind you, I am not saying that there are loads of blogs out there (written by people of any color or gender) that focus on pollings and primaries 2 years out, but even if there are, most all the information that is available here is available elsewhere.

I can see no reason at all to think that everyone or anyone who blogs on these issues... electoral politics, political analysis, horse race analysis, so on and who also develop their own narratives, or comments on the political process, candidates or whatever, would necessarily need to be aware that this site exists, or even if they are familiar, that they would feel the need to come here for information as opposed to developing their own sources and resources, their own favorite media, and their own analysis.

It may be the largest, or one of the largest such sites on the internet, dunno, but I don't think that necessarily means anything.


by Nanette K on Mon May 07, 2007 at 08:59:11 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (none / 0)

They haven't been sought out? You know this how? Is it because of your extensive knowledge of how I run this blog? It is because you have been posting here since all of late March 2007?

That is a pretty harsh accusation to make, especially with such little evidence to back it up.
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:06:49 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (none / 0)

I guess I missed the part where you stated that you did. Please point out my error. I'll wait.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:29:36 PM EST
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Re: The way to do it (none / 0)

I'm with you on this one, as I also missed the part where I stated that I hadn't looked around for like minded bloggers, or that I didn't ask for applicants to blog at MyDD. Where are those parts? Did it come before or after the time I said that only one person applied to write on MyDD? Did it come before or after I said that there really aren't any other independent blogs or bloggers that focus on the same topics MyDD focuses?
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:42:24 PM EST
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Diversity in offline activism (none / 0)

I would totally do that job, but I'm reasonably sure that, among other issues, I would not add to the diversity appreciably except that I would quote Dead Prez and KRS-One more often.

I'm glad that we've narrowed the discussion.  As mentioned in the last thread by several people including me, this is an issue of diversity of experience and perspective, not of gender or skin color in-and-of itself.

I really think that the takeaway from this post, if not this entire discussion, is the very end:

Until the problem is solved, it will result in our demographics skewing toward groups who have the time, access, and relative resource safety to participate in it without reliable compensation.

This strikes me as a major issue in society overall.  Political activism, or at least progressive political activism, is a luxury.  This has been addressed before on this site and elsewhere, and very well at times.  But I hope that ultimately the direction this leads us all in is how to create a society and a system of political inclusion that allows activism to on the one hand be a legitimate livelihood for those who want it, but on the other hand be something that is accessible in smaller bites.

There are a lot of directions to run with this, but I don't think that whatever lack of diversity from this end may exist is the fault of blogs so much as a fault of some size and description in the way politics and everyday life have been divorced from each other in a very fundamental and debilitating way.  In some sense, that's what blogging has been about, but in another sense, it's something that's somewhat casually been dismissed with "blogs exist for those who are here" without going too deeply into why and whether that's really ok.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:31:09 PM EST

Re: Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Diffi (3.00 / 1)

Chris, as you point out you took a chance on both Matt and Jonathan.  You probably will have to do the same with your next hire.  You are probably right, there may not be someone of color who is blogging about these issues already at the level you need them to be.  But, there have to be people out there who would be able to step up to the tast.  A trial over a few weekends probably would make sense to avoid the MSO experience.  

Jenifer Ancona (a friend of mine) probably would be an ideal candidate, but she may be a bit busy actually building coalitions to talk about building coalitions.


by juls on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:49:11 PM EST

Re: Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Diffi (none / 0)

I actually hung out with Jennifer this weekend, and I like her quite a bit.

As a side note, does that last comment make a dig at blogging--that it mostly talk and little action? Perish the thought! :)

Still, as Jennifer herself noted in a recent diary, an effective communications network is an essential means of maintaining any movement. Blogging can certainly be part of any such communication network (though certainly not the whole thing), and thus be a process in building said movement and coalitions. She herself blogs.

I'm just typing out loud here. I don't mean to be difficult, because I know you already know and believe all of this.
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:57:47 PM EST
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Re: Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Diffi (none / 0)

Heh. Why yes it does.

In fact, I often try and steer people away from too big of an emphasis on blogging itself, but rather seeing it as a piece of a larger communications puzzle.  I have spent enough time doing it for work to know its limitations.

Glad you got to spend some time with her.  She and her husband Dan, who I hung out with on Friday are big assets to the larger progressive movement.  They both blog, but it is only a piece of what they do.


by juls on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:48:08 PM EST
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Re: Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Diffi (none / 0)

She would be, but you're also right that her plate is pretty full as it is.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:01:01 PM EST
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Perspective (2.00 / 2)

This struggle over diversity of content is actually one of the main points of tension in discussions of demographic and cultural diversity in the blogosphere. Among progressives, discussions of content diversity can quickly translate into discussions of cultural diversity regarding the people producing the content. That is to say, progressives often consider the demographic and cultural groups of which a given person is a member to be a prime cause of the content that person produces. For example, the much of the progressive, political blogosphere is often criticized for not writing on labor issues because participants in the blogosphere are reasonably wealthy.

Chris, this isn't what we've been saying. It isn't the subject matter that we want changed and it isn't the demographic information of the person writing. It's the perspective on the same topics. The example I keep bringing up is that when we talk about the 2008 presidential race, I want to hear what women think about Clinton and what blacks think about Obama. Because it has to be a bit different.

I liked nonpartisan's suggestion of more links in FP posts to blogs beside the dKos and TAP pair of orbits.

My suggestion is that MyDD stop referring to itself as the progressive movement or worse, the general progressive movement. Though we haven't come to consensus on causality or remedy, we can all admit that there is no way that MyDD can be considered to represent the movement as a whole. I liked Chris' earlier formulation of "creative class progressivism" to describe the brand of politics practiced here and would urge everyone to think about the site's culture as such.


by CT student on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:52:31 PM EST

Re: Perspective (3.00 / 1)

A temporary solution to this would to bring in a series of guest posters with the goal of a broad range of perspectives.  It gives you an opportunity for a trial run with a group of people.  They can also pimp it out to their own networks to help boost traffic and you can get a good idea of their "draw" to the site.


by juls on Mon May 07, 2007 at 06:57:25 PM EST
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Re: Perspective (none / 0)

"My suggestion is that MyDD stop referring to itself as the progressive movement or worse, the general progressive movement."

We never did that. We have never done that. We will never do that. We have always referred to ourselves as part of the greater whole, and always will. Claiming otherwise is simply putting words in our mouths, and attributing ideas to us that we never proposed.

"I liked Chris' earlier formulation of "creative class progressivism" to describe the brand of politics practiced here"

Clearly, as you even know, I've pointed out, on hundreds of occasions, that we are not perfectly representative of the progressive movement as a whole. So where do you get the idea that I've been claiming MyDD is the progressive movement?

"I want to hear what women think about Clinton and what blacks think about Obama. Because it has to be a bit different."

And I think I made it clear in the post that I have long been looking for writers on MyDD who would do that. The problem is finding people who can meet the requirements we need in front page writers that I listed in this post.
by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:03:45 PM EST
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Re: Perspective (none / 0)

Please list those "requirements"


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:31:07 PM EST
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Re: Perspective (3.00 / 1)

I klow it was hard to see the requirements, because they only made up the three largest paragraphs of the post:
However, looking with more detail into the process of finding new bloggers who can effectively cover your niche reveals many problems beyond simply adhering to a principle of diversity when it comes time to make new hires. First, it needs to be remembered that independent, progressive, political blogs are not viable means of full-time employment for all but a dozen or so people nationwide. As someone was has long struggled to make a living from independent blogging, it is always in the back of my head that if I hire a new writer, then my income will drop unless that new writer can increase the blog's revenue by at least 40% in the case of a full-time writer like Matt, or 20%.in the case of a half-time writer like Jonathan. Finding someone who can do that is extremely difficult, especially when one considers the limited pool of bloggers who focus on MyDD's topic areas. Further, considering time constraints and immediate financial pressures, I don't have the luxury of training someone who can fill that role at some point a few months from now. Whoever I hire needs to be able to hit the ground running with between ten and twenty insightful posts a week on our topic area, which requires between twenty and sixty hours of work every week, or else it simply is not viable for me to hire that person. There just are not many people who fit the bill.

Let me put all of this in practical terms. Back in November of 2005, which was the last time I engaged in a hiring process at MyDD, Jonathan Singer was the only applicant. After I waited a couple of days, when no one else applied, I just gave him the weekend job without even so much as an interview. Fortunately, I was familiar with his writing, which intersected with both MyDD and my personal interests to such a degree that I once nominated Jonathan's earlier project, Basie! for a "Best New Blog" Koufax award. (In fact, when it comes to understanding just how narrow MyDD's focus is, it is worth noting that no one seconded that nomination, and so Basie! did not even move into the semifinals of that competition). As far as the full-time job went, when absolutely no one applied, I just offered it to Matt, with whom I had already worked on several infrastructure projects, and who had a lot of past blogging experience (including MyDD experience). When they both accepted, and hit the ground running, MyDD was greatly improved. With virtually no one applying, with the economic pressures I faced, with the content pressures I still face, and with the extremely limited talent pool, rather than viewing that hiring process as a disappointment, I still think of finding and hiring Matt and Jonathan as a remarkable stroke of good luck. They might have been the only two people in the country who were able to bit the bill, and I am thrilled to work with them.

Considering the profile MyDD requires--a minimum of ten posts a week on election analysis and / or political infrastructure from a progressive slant--even today I still don't know who I could find as a new part-time or full-time writer for MyDD apart from Jonathan and Matt. That is actually one of the main reasons Scott Shields was never replaced: I simply have no suggestions for a replacement, or anyone even asking to replace him. Further, when I can't even think of a single person who can fit the bill, I don't really know how to add diversity to the process. However, if you think you can do it, if you don't need any training, if you have past professional political experience, if you are willing to write under your real name, and if you don't expect a huge amount of money for what you write, then by all means, email me at chirs@mydd.com. I am absolutely serious about this. Please provide links to your past writing, along with an explanation of how you will find the time to produce the amount of content we seek (a minimum of ten original posts every week, and preferably more, the vast majority of which should be focused on election analysis and / or political infrastructure). Women, minorities and regular participants in the MyDD community are encouraged to apply. An overtly progressive slant is also required.

by Chris Bowers on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:35:44 PM EST
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Heh (none / 0)

I klow it was hard to see the requirements, because they only made up the three largest paragraphs of the post

Heh.  Just heh.


ProgressiveHistorians: History For Our Future
by Nonpartisan on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:40:56 PM EST
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So, It's a Sales Position? (none / 0)

"....it is always in the back of my head that if I hire a new writer, then my income will drop unless that new writer can increase the blog's revenue by at least 40% in the case of a full-time writer like Matt, or 20%.in the case of a half-time writer like Jonathan. Finding someone who can do that is extremely difficult, especially when one considers the limited pool of bloggers who focus on MyDD's topic areas. Further, considering time constraints and immediate financial pressures, I don't have the luxury of training someone who can fill that role at some point a few months from now. Whoever I hire needs to be able to hit the ground running with between ten and twenty insightful posts a week on our topic area, which requires between twenty and sixty hours of work every week, or else it simply is not viable for me to hire that person. There just are not many people who fit the bill."


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 08:06:46 PM EST
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Re: So, It's a Sales Position? (none / 0)

Are you starving yourself to keep this blog running?


Sam L
by Sam L on Tue May 08, 2007 at 01:37:23 AM EST
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Re: Perspective (none / 0)

They were all in the above post.  Try reading it again, it's not hidden or anything.


New Mexico politics from the local perspective.
by fbihop on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:41:28 PM EST
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Re: Perspective (none / 0)

On this one, you shouldn't take it personally, Chris. You're actually very good at distinguishing where MyDD fits into a whole.

What I meant to say, and should have been clearer, is that the larger MyDD community often talks about this. The language is often comparing us, the general progressives, with single-issue groups. That has the implication that we don't have a bias or that our issues are somehow privileged, which is obviously problematic.

I apologize for being unclear, but I would appreciate it if you assumed that commenters weren't being dishonest and tried to parse out the most generous interpretation (ie. the one in which I don't foolishly contradict myself in consecutive sentences). Thank you for responding, though. This has been a fantastic conversation on each of these threads.


by CT student on Mon May 07, 2007 at 10:24:59 PM EST
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That wasn't my suggestion (none / 0)

I know I can be a bit verbose (heh!) but that was a suggestion I made for other cultural criticism blogs (and then I picked on Ezra because he was the first name that came to mind, a backhanded compliment if I ever gave one).  My suggestion for Chris was to stop worrying about it, because his blog isn't situated in such a way as to really do anything for diversity without compromising its own mission.


ProgressiveHistorians: History For Our Future
by Nonpartisan on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:39:29 PM EST
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Re: That wasn't my suggestion (none / 0)

"his blog isn't situated in such a way as to really do anything for diversity without compromising its own mission."

How So?


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Mon May 07, 2007 at 08:08:25 PM EST
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It's a political strategy blog (none / 0)

and is thus inherently pragmatic.  While a cultural criticism blog can, and should, seek to enlarge the debate by promoting minority voices, a political strategy blog needs to focus on things as they are and how to move them in the right direction.  Thus, including minority voices on the front page just because they're minority voices would not advance the purpose of this blog, which is to provide a forum for political experts with professional organizing and blogging experience.  By and large, those positions are not held by minorities -- something that definitely should change, but is true today.

Actually, I've just brought in a supplemental point.  Here's something MyDD could do to encourage diversity: encourage politicians to hire diverse staffers and organizers as a way of bringing diversity into the Democratic machine.


ProgressiveHistorians: History For Our Future
by Nonpartisan on Mon May 07, 2007 at 09:36:27 PM EST
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Re: Diversity and the Blogosphere: Practical Diffi (3.00 / 2)

In the 1990s, California politics were deformed by repeated Republican-backed initiatives that played to white anxiety about ceasing to be the demographic majority. (Whites will still be the majority of the CA electorate until about 2045 for interesting reasons about voting behavor, but folks don't know that. And the white electorate was very easy in those years to mobilize around fear of drowning.) We had an anti-immigrant initiative (94), a draconian 3-strikes lock 'em initiative (94), anti- affirmative action (96), and anti--bilingual education (98). They all passed because of white fear.

What some of us saw was needed was simply electoral capacity in the communities of color -- folks were getting run over and didn't even understand how the system worked well enough to fight back. At least two coalitions of (c)3 entities in the communities of color got together to throw up separate electoral formations to enable people who had been marginalized to get the practical experience to win a voice.

Getting this done took a) creating a consciousness that training for expertise was part of what was needed to stem the tide; b) getting a critical mass of existing organizations to buy in; c) raising grassroots money and then institutional (including some labor) money to make a go of it.

If it matters that myDD be able to speak in the contexts of the electoral needs of marginalized communities, you probably need something like this. For awhile, the people doing the speaking might still be white men, but in time such a project aims as creating new speakers.


Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Mon May 07, 2007 at 07:37:05 PM EST

Rural Voices (none / 0)

TThe great thing about blogging is that once you are connected to the Internet the rest is basically free. Given that this medium is extremely accessible, I believe that if people want a bigger voice in the progressive blog community they should start their own blog, or post diaries on sites like MyDD and DailyKos. Given the relatively free form nature of this medium people who want their voice heard can find their niche, but one must do as the Nike slogan says and "Just Do It." In my experience, I have found that if you make a compelling case for your cause most progressive bloggers will assist you in getting the word out. However, you must be able to take your discrete issue and make a compelling case as to why it's important for the progressive movement on the whole. As someone who has blogged about "rural" issues, I feel I can speak to the "diversity" of the progressive blog community which tends on the whole to be more city-centered for a number of obvious reasons, yet even though the issues I've blogged about in the past were focused on rural places and seemingly local issues, I found the blog community to be extremely receptive.  I will give two examples from my experience to illustrate this point.

I first started blogging to bring attention to the possible closing of an excellent neighborhood elementary school in my hometown of Berwick, PA. My hometown is one of the most rural counties in Pennsylvania, and doesn't have its own blog community to speak of, so I started my own site on Blogger. In the matter of weeks we brought a great deal of attention to the issue, and the local paper even did a story on my online efforts to help save the school. This issue was as local as you could get,  yet I found a forum in the progressive blog community by making the connection between the school's closing and the broader trend of short-sighted policy making in education on the state and the national level. In order to make this case, I started cross posting stories on Young Philly Politics, and found a very supportive audience. Though most readers of that site are at least two hours from my small rural town readers were supportive and even picked up the story, Dan U-A,  the blog's editor, even gave me some front page real estate.

My second experience blogging occurred when I was PA General Assembly in Columbia County, PA. Despite my opponent making the top 10 most vulnerable Republican State House members list, the State Democratic Committees took very little interest in my campaign. So in order to help get the message out that their are viable progressive candidates in rural PA, I started blogging on MyDD and DailyKos.  I wrote several diaries explaining the importance of my campaign through the lens of the broader Democratic wave happening around the country, and Chris was kind enough to give me a front page post to help make that case. I was lucky enough to even raise several hundred dollars in ActBlue contributions from MyDD readers from around the country.

In both instances I found the progressive blog community to be very supportive of my seemingly local rural issues. I believe that in most instances this community is one that will reach out beyond it's particular demographic situation and help out any number of progressive causes. So when I read some of the criticisms regarding content diversity in the progressive blog community it makes me wonder if people are trying hard enough to get their issues heard. I cannot speak to every person's experience but anyone who is feeling discouraged, or that their issue is not being heard, reach out and you will likely find someone in the progressive blog community who will lend you a hand


-- David Slavick http://www.claimid.com/davidslavick
by davidslavick on Mon May 07, 2007 at 08:34:25 PM EST

Well ... (none / 0)

... if you really want diversity, you have to affirmatively act to get it.

You could start by hiring an intern -- you could go to high schools and community colleges and ask the folks there about their students, go to teachers of political science, seek out different voices.

Diversity certainly isn't going to come knocking at your door -- this would be a very good place to foster young people to care about politics.  I believe it's called "mentoring."

You've been at it long enough that you could teach someone about it.  But if you truly desire diversity you have to go out and find the folks you say "don't exist."  They do exist -- but you have to put effort into finding them and fostering their abilities.

Yeah, I know you need revenue and all that, you are busy.  Didn't say it would be easy.  But it certainly can be done and I believe you and this site would benefit from it.

My 2 cents.


by Nightprowlkitty on Tue May 08, 2007 at 06:17:16 PM EST

It's about competence and insanity, not diversity (none / 0)

The bottom line is real simple, and Chris has nailed it - finding people who can write a lot of good posts consistently for peanuts is a problem.  It's just brutally hard to find front-pagers.  Frankly, when I tell people whose writing I really like "post more, and tell me, and I'll front page it" most of the time I get "I'm too busy" or if they do post, they don't post very much.

I don't write as much as Chris, but I've calculated what I write in a year, and it's on the order of 250K words or more.  That's 4 or so freaking books worth.  I don't even want to think about what the cents/word or hourly rate work out to, but let's just say if I'd taken all the time I'd put into blogging and I'd worked at McD's, I'd be tens of thosands of dollars ahead.

So - my position on diversity is simple: if you're a good writer who'll produce and writes material that fits my blog, I don't care if you're white, black, latino, indian, zebra striped, male, female, bi, tri or whatever.  It's a complete non-issue.


by Ian Welsh on Wed May 09, 2007 at 02:25:41 AM EST


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