Hillary Clinton's De-Authorization: War Without End?

Enough with the "had I known then what I know now" talk.

Hillary Clinton just released a statement that makes it very clear that she has no intention to push the
Senate -- or lead the country -- to get out of Iraq anytime soon. This is a Mack-truck-wide opening --
especially for Barack Obama. Both he and Edwards should use this and exploit it to the hilt.

The statement is at http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statement s/details.cfm?id=273563&&

Today, Senator Byrd announced on the Senate floor our intention to introduce legislation which
proposes October 11, 2007 -- the five-year anniversary of the original resolution authorizing the
use of force in Iraq -- as the expiration date for that resolution. As Senator Byrd pointed out, the
October 11, 2002 authorization to use force has run its course, and it is time to reverse the
failed policies of President Bush and to end this war as soon as possible.

Earlier this week, President Bush vetoed legislation reflecting the will of Congress and the
American people that would have provided needed funding for our troops while also changing
course in Iraq and beginning to bring our troops home.

I believe that this fall is the time to review the Iraq war authorization and to have
a full national debate so the people can be heard.
I supported the Byrd amendment
in 2002 which would have limited the original authorization to a year and I believe a full
reconsideration of the terms and conditions of the authorization is overdue.
This bill would require the president to do just that.

The American people have called for change, the facts on the ground demand change,
and the Congress has passed legislation that requires change. It is time to sunset the
authorization for the war in Iraq. If the president will not bring himself to accept reality,
it is time for Congress to bring reality to him.

I urge my colleagues to join Senator Byrd and me in supporting this effort
to require a new authorization resolution for these new times.

If Clinton believes "it is time...to end this war as soon as possible"...

  • Why do we need to wait 5 months before we "review" the Iraq authorization?
  • Why do we need to wait 5 months before having "a full national debate so
    the people can be heard"? Haven't we already had a national debate?
    Weren't the people already heard in November 2006?

The fact is, Hillary Clinton is -- again -- using pupulist language to trump up her opposition to military
force in Iraq and mislead the American people about what she is doing on this issue.

There is a reason why the new sign-up feature on Clinton's Web site -- "DEAUTHORIZE THE WAR" in
giant capital letters, followed by an invitation to "Join Hillary in her call to bring an end to the war by
cosponsoring her resolution to deauthorize the war" (emphasis mine) -- requires visitors to sign up
right then and there, with no link to the statement itself:

Hillary Clinton is NOT moving to "deauthorize the war."

Look at the statement. Clinton proposes:

  • an "expiration date" for "the original resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq"
  • "reconsideration of the terms and conditions of the authorization" [of the use of force in Iraq]
  • "a new authorization resolution" [of the use of force in Iraq]

This is both a set-up and an excuse for Clinton to vote in favor of a funding-only resolution that
sets no timetable for troop withdrawal.

And it is not what Bill Richardson has in mind when he says, on his own Web site, that Congress
must "De-Authorize the War." On Tuesday, Richardson "called on Congress...to immediately pass
a resolution, under the War Powers Act, that would de-authorize the Iraq War and provide a rapid
timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. forces." (emphasis mine).

According to Richardson's press release, "only Congress has the authority to authorize war, and
can also vote by resolution to de-authorize the war -- which would require the military to remove
all American troops from Iraq. Such a resolution does not require a Presidential signature and would
therefore not be subject to veto."

This is not what Hillary Clinton is saying. Indeed, Clinton is very careful to note that that Bush vetoed
legislation reflecting the will of the American people for "changing course" in Iraq and for "beginning"
to bring our troops home.

Whatever her rhetoric, Hillary Clinton is not moving to "de-authorize the war."

She is moving merely to extend the war under different "terms and conditions."

Obama, Edwards, and all of the Democratic presidential candidates have to start
calling Clinton out on this. Today.



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Re: Hillary (none / 0)

horizonr:

Oh do tell tell us again how much you hate Hillary.  

The problem you are having is that this deauthorization move by Clinton and Byrd is extremely smart.  Furthermore, Barack Obama just announced late today that he will support it.

Have you ever put up a diary here that doesn't bash Hillary?  No.  I didn't think so.


by samueldem on Fri May 04, 2007 at 12:52:26 AM EST

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You are so right! Every decision anyone makes regarding this war, except Bush, is subject to all kinds of changes and vissitudes of events.  What this writer seems to do is see the dark side of EVERYTHING that Hillary suggests and the bright side of EVERYTHING others suggest.  Sounds more like a Freudian thing than good political analysis to me.  :-)


Steve Love
by Steve Love on Fri May 04, 2007 at 12:10:45 PM EST
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Hmmmmmmm..... (none / 0)

What you're saying has merit - but it doesn't really offer anything to replace it.  It looks like Clinton is using the next five months to round up support, and give everyone time to make certain they can sign on without losing support at home.  But you're right, it doesn't say that.

If it was me, I'd be doing it on that date, just to satisfy my OCD...


I know I'm only a little bear, but surely things can be better...
by jamesbayers on Fri May 04, 2007 at 01:03:13 AM EST

Yes, but (none / 0)

I'm guessing that Clinton is giving herself the next 5 months to politic the required majority.

But given the U.S. and Iraqi "lives and treasure" at stake, it seems presumptuous, even a
little monstrous, for Clinton to pretend that she has the luxury.

Five months to peg this thing to a 5-year anniversary? That's aesthetics. We're way past
aesthetics here. Why not just say: "I believe this is our best shot at getting out of Iraq, and
I'm going to do everything in my power to make this happen ASAP"?

But I'm not convinced that this particular measure is about getting out of Iraq. Not really.
Which goes to a fundamental rhetorical dishonesty in Clinton's marketing her plan as a move
to "deauthorize the war."

Many -- perhaps even most -- people who read "Deauthorize the war" on Clinton's Web site
or hear her say "Deauthorize the war" at a campaign stop will read and hear "End the war."

But that's not what Clinton is proposing, at least not yet. She may be proposing deauthorizing
the war that she approved in October 2002. But beyond that, she calls only for a "reconsideration
of the terms and conditions" of the Iraq war policy -- not a revocation -- and she is already contemplating
"a new authorization resolution."

Clinton should be honest and forthright about what her proposal is, and what it isn't. Certainly, she
mustn't be allowed to press an anti-war advantage over her rivals for the Democratic nomination,
based on three words -- Deauthorize the war -- that, as the fine print makes clear, are still little
more than a marketing slogan.


by horizonr on Fri May 04, 2007 at 04:17:45 AM EST
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Re: Yes, but (none / 0)

I disagree.  Given that she voted for the vetoed bill which set specific withdrawal parameters in exchange for funding, she can hardly be called someone who wants to "re-authorize" the war or "prolong the war."    The interpretation of her current stance and online-call for de-authorization of the original war authorization seems wrong-headed to me.   It reads like a clear-cut proposal to revoke authorization for the war (the entire kid and kaboodle) by October 2007.  Just because the language includes "it is time to have a full national debate" on this issue does in no way mean that she advocates for the war to be prolonged, or as the headline yelps "War without end?"   There is nothing wrong with a continued debate on the issue, in fact it is wrongheaded to claim none is needed because of the Nov. 2006 election results.  

The constant attempts to paint Clinton as a war-monger (when she indeed shows to be the opposite) smack of an attempt to paint a cartoonish picture that has little, if anything, to do with reality.    The call "Obama, Edwards, and all of the Democratic presidential candidates have to start calling Clinton out on this. Today."   will go unheeded and ignored, of course, due to the fact that they make little sense (not because the candidates shrink and shiver from the mere thought of offending Clinton.)   In fact, Obama just got on board himself in support of this very measure:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/washin gton/04cong.html?em&ex=1178424000&am p;en=759110b78a00b3e8&ei=5087%0A

"Mr. Obama issued a statement on Thursday evening indicating that he would support the effort by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Byrd."

How is THAT for doing the opposite of what the diarist is calling on him to do?    :-)


by georgep on Fri May 04, 2007 at 09:10:52 AM EST
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New information (well, new to ME)... (none / 0)

It turns out that September is the end of the fiscal year for government funding.  It makes perfect sense for a guv'mnt person to look at that date when calling for changing funding rules.


I know I'm only a little bear, but surely things can be better...
by jamesbayers on Wed May 09, 2007 at 12:30:10 AM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton's (3.00 / 0)

Clinton has never alluded to the fact that she can end the war.  Nobody but Bush can end the war.  And nobody has had any success.  Clinton is not using smokescreens here.  She is not the President and she, and everyone in Congress, has been working hard to have an impact.

The deauthorization is another way around Bush and it is not a guarantee.  It is ploy to try to outsmart the bastard.  


by samueldem on Fri May 04, 2007 at 07:56:21 AM EST

Re: Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

"I am a war president"?  Could you explain where she made that remark?  IT would be helpful if you could show the inconsistency you claim exists.  I don't see it at all, and I studied all comments made.  But I would be interested in seeing your evidence for the "identity crisis" you claim exists.  


by georgep on Fri May 04, 2007 at 10:49:27 AM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

The question was about a hypothetical situation in which the US was hit by TWO simultaneous terror attacks on the scale of 9/11.   I am sorry if you think she should have said anything but that she would act swiftly against those who committed such a heinous act.  


by georgep on Fri May 04, 2007 at 11:30:09 AM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

No, there is no inconsistency.  One case deals with a hypotheytical TWO STRIKE terrorist attack on a 9/11 scale.  The other case deals with what to do with the Iraq war.   No "cake and eating, too" situation whatsoever.   As you well know.


by georgep on Fri May 04, 2007 at 02:13:41 PM EST
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