It's interesting to note how old school the CBC, and their constituency in general, seems to be in their political dealings.  It's probably a bigger discussion, but I'm not sure I have a full-fledged race war in me this weekend.

Of all the CBC members, Keith Ellison is one of the biggest surprises, considering their part in advancing the fake "crazy koran-swearing islamo-fascists are taking over!" "controversy" earlier this year.

For shame. I guess fitting in is more important than taking a stand for Ellison and the rest of these fools. It's like some ex-boyfriend repeatedly trying to win his ex's affection. Sorry, Fox viewers just aren't that into you.

Is here.

Just ask Dollar Bill Jefferson.

I'm disappointed in Ellison. I was hoping he'd start the NCBC or something with Jackson Jr. or Waters or something. A new uncorrupted CBC basically. Ah well.

No one's perfect.

And I always find it interesting, don't you, that they just conveniently leave out the BLACK activists who worked very hard to get that farce cancelled. Like the ONLY ones who were ' involved' in it, were Moveon.org, and other 'Mainstream' progressive groups, ignoring ColorofChange.org.

Like there wasn't a group of Black folk who said, ' No way. You have NO BUSINESS being involved with the White Citizens Council Network.'

Just because they want to ignore us (the CBC), doesn't mean that we don't exist.

And, I want full disclosure...who got paid what?

Cause the way they're clutching to the White Citizens Council Network...that only happen when $$$$ are involved.

And, you know the pathetic thing about it?

I bet it's cents on the dollar that others sell out for.

The bottom line is, the Congressional Black Caucus is exactly that, an organization whose primary interest is protecting African-American members of Congress, not advancing the welfare of the black community as a whole.  

Couldn't a large enough group descend on them with a copy of the documentary "Outfoxed," so that they would at least know why there are objections to the network.

LOL, how many members are there in Colorforchange.org?  Are they all African American or representative of all communities of color?  Did they form on their own or are they an offshoot of another organization?

I'm just sayin', before we all get self-righteous (unless that's your aspiration) it might be worth noting that most of the CBC members voted against the war in the first place, voted against the most recent supplemental and we're going to call them sellouts?  

Thanks to everyone on this thread contributing to the "we're so progressive we can diss minorities as much as the right wing and still be cool".

I think the CBC has really put themselves in a difficult position. They took a very lucrative deal but the cost was that it was with Fox News who has a scatter shot relationship with facts. So there they are, a group of Democratic leaning individuals shacked up with a conservative mouthpiece that pats them on the back with donations and opportunities for the African American community while also taking nasty partisan jabs. I wish there were an easy way out for them. I think Fox News will probably do something to try to make nice with the Democrats (on paper).

I admit I initially wrote it off as the "black caucus" of Moveon.org.  That being said, is it the position of colorforchange that we should boycott Fox altogether?  Short of that, I'm not sure why the CBC's desire to partner w/them is so egregious.  

I'm clear on Fox News being at best the GOP Broadcast Network, at worst the Right Wing Network (though I think "White Citizens Council Network" is way over the top).  But are we saying that they should be banned from press events; ie we don't send them press releases, allow them to cover Dem events, etc; or are we just making a point re the Presidential process?

Like it or not, they aren't Air America, they're bigger.  Until we have 1) TV and 2) local affiliates, we are writing off a viewership which has the ability to impact close elections.  We beat them in 06, but we didn't boycott them in that cycle either.

If we want to win the Presidency, more red state Senate/gubernatorial seats and go beyond the 50.1 dynamic played out by GW, we must show strength, not fear in going on their turf to make our points.  Not being on their network doesn't preclude them from misrepresenting us in their coverage post debate, but why forsake the opportunity to make our points on LIVE television?

Finally, I still don't understand the numerous sellout references about a group of folks who have been better than the Dem caucus overall in their support of progressive positions.