Trade Details

Someone from the Hill who asked not to be identified sent me the details on the trade accord.   Here's the outline and here is more specific language.  I don't think my earlier post on the deal being secret upon release was correct.  What happened is that the various press releases and materials sent out did not in fact include the details of the agreement, and the two public interest groups and few member offices I talked to didn't have the agreement language either.  The person who sent this to me in fact apologized for the muddled release of the details.  I can't tell if the announcing group was trying to hide the details or if they only sent out the talking points, assuming people wouldn't care about the details.  Regardless, I'm relieved that this process won't be cloaked in secrecy.

The one member I've talked to about this agreement says that he needs to educate himself about it.  That's where I am as well.  Please, grok the details and let me know what you think.

Update [2007-5-12 19:59:36 by Matt Stoller]:: I've now gotten two emails about this in the last five hours (on a Saturday). It's not clear to me when this stuff was released. It's possible it was in wide circulation on Thursday, or it's possible that someone got scared and said 'release the details or we'll look shady'. I don't know. See Sirota for more questions.

Update [2007-5-12 21:33:57 by Matt Stoller]:: Todd Tucker at Public Citizen informs us that this is basically a summary of a framework, and not what members will be voting on. The trade deals are what will be voted on, and the language for those has not been released. Rangel is saying he can pull 'more than 100 members' to his side. Fine. Then release the language for the trade deals.

The New York Times editorializes in favor of the deal. I've highlighted a key sentence.

A commitment to basic labor standards — including bans on child labor and forced labor and guarantees of the right to organize — will be written into pending and future trade agreements. Trading partners will be required to enforce their own environmental laws. The administration will be responsible for monitoring compliance.

They may want to read this.



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Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

It looks like to me that it cleans up some sharp corners, but effective protection of the right of environmental laws and regulations to be consider in terms of their effectiveness as environmental policy seems to be mostly limited to Multi-lateral Environmental Agreements.

And the basic question of whether its a free trade agreement or an unfettered capital flows agreement seems to be untouched.


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by BruceMcF on Sat May 12, 2007 at 07:34:00 PM EST

Pleasant surprise! (none / 0)

Doesn't explain the whole weirdness of the secret pact - but Matt came through with the goods, which is more than can be said for anyone else.

So - yay, Matt!

As for grokking - not my bailiwick...


by skeptic06 on Sat May 12, 2007 at 07:50:39 PM EST

JTA... (3.00 / 0)

I see that Sirota, in the piece Matt links, distinguishes between the documents Matt has given us and legislative language.

Would legislative language have been drafted at this stage in the game? Or would that have waited on an agreement on principles to be reached?

If it's been drafted, I think we should see it.

(Matt shaking the tree has got us one delivery of fruit so far; who knows what more might bring?)


by skeptic06 on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:44:20 PM EST
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Re: JTA... (3.00 / 2)

The trade deals are what will be voted on, and the language for those has not been released.
 Great tactic.  Split them up and surround the opposition so they can defend or keep up the defense.  This trade deal is bull shit.  So, Bush won't even sign a minimum wage bill; but all of a sudden, he and the Democrats are in total agreement on protecting the environment and American workers.  How ridiculous.


by dkmich on Sun May 13, 2007 at 08:47:55 AM EST
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Re: JTA... (3.00 / 5)

Seriously, the thing that boggles my mind is why the hell would we do ANY trade agreement w/Bush when he'll be out in less than 2 years?

I'm fairly confident we'll still have the house in 2009, and there's a very good chance we'll control both chambers and the white house. So why cave now?


by adamterando on Sun May 13, 2007 at 09:59:17 AM EST
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Re: JTA... (3.00 / 1)

Because the DLC Dems are in cahoots on this.  Remember it was Clinton who gave us NAFTA. They think we are stuuuuuupid.  Give me a fucking break.  If you haven't screamed to Pelosi and your congress person about this, please do.  We need to stop them.  First thing we need is a national dialong and a real look at what they are doing to our country.   Corporations maybe global but Pelosi and Rangel have a duty to the the people in the USA - not global corporations. Make your voice heard.


by dkmich on Sun May 13, 2007 at 12:01:01 PM EST
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I like that (3.00 / 1)

they say that labor enforcement will be subject to the same mechanism as all other FTA obligations.  And I like that they text says that the agreements won't give foreign investors greater rights than US investors, but I have a hard time believing that's going to be the way it acutally is going to turn out.


by ManfromMiddletown on Sat May 12, 2007 at 07:58:59 PM EST

I don't see why not ... (3.00 / 3)

... the point of a free "trade" agreement is to give more rights to the wealthy ... the wealthy of both nations receiving equally favorable treatment in the US is perfectly in accord with the spirit of the agreements.


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by BruceMcF on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:31:15 PM EST
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Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

At a first glance it seems that the only mechanism for enforcing the ILO standards would be one party declaring the other to be in violation and ending the FTA (or maybe going to WTO to ask for punitive sanctions?). Can anyone see the USTR under the current (or any corporate) administration doing this?

Shouldn't there be a third party enforcement mechanism?


by splinterbrain on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:03:08 PM EST

I believe there is already an enforcement ... (none / 0)

... mechanism in place in the FTA's, so when it gets to enforcement, it is mostly making more things eligible to go to the original enforcement mechanism.


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by BruceMcF on Sun May 13, 2007 at 03:35:33 AM EST
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Summary Raises More Questions Than Answers (3.00 / 3)

I'm just reading the summary so far (and thus parsing it very carefully). The environmental section looks rather weak. For example, the list of seven multilateral environmental agreements (MEAs) looks rather meaningless, because all of them are already in force and operating well. This looks like the old political trick of restating what already occurred -- an external event that just happened without your involvement which you now wish to claim as your own victory.

For example, is Peru really going to be whaling any time soon? Will whale ceviche be on the menu? And who the heck still produces CFCs banned under the Montreal Protocol? Even the Chinese don't. Where's the Kyoto Protocol (on carbon emissions) if this agreement framework is serious about the environment? Or is that not a "common" MEA because the U.S. hasn't signed yet?

And that's really the dirty little secret: a free trade agreement should challenge the U.S. to improve in the areas where the U.S. doesn't meet world best practices, but I don't see anything in the summary that does.

In fact, there's that bold bullet about a "groundbreaking 'conflict of laws' provision" which, in fact, looks rather meaningless or even damaging. It says that a "covered" MEA obligation trumps a free trade obligation. Covered, meaning, one of the 7. However, if Panama has a Kyoto obligation (if Panama is a Kyoto signatory), that's not good enough: the free trade obligation could trump Kyoto since Kyoto is not "covered." Which means, for example, that Panama could not ban or tax imports of inefficient American-built SUVs in order to meet their Kyoto targets, according to the plain meaning of this summary. But Panama can ban imports of whale tusks!

There's also the last section, dealing with SWAT (Strategic Worker Assistance and Training). While the rest of the document is peppered with words like "enforceable" and "binding," this section is not. Thus if there's a community or group of employees hurt by trade, they cannot (for example) win a lawsuit against the U.S. Government for failing to provide adequate retraining benefits or healthcare transition benefits.

The investment section is puzzling. Foreign investors in the U.S. cannot receive "greater substantive rights with respect to investment protections" than U.S. investors in the U.S. I think this means that foreign governments cannot provide, for example, special loan guarantees to their companies investing in the U.S. But this language is way too broad, in my opinion. If a foreign country has more aggressive financial disclosure laws than the U.S., for example, would this language prevent the application of that pro-investor/pro-consumer disclosure? Or, for another hypothetical, suppose Peru had a law which required that its companies investing abroad (including the U.S.) had to pay a minimum of 30% of in-country profits to U.S. investors in the form of dividends. The U.S. has no such law. Would the free trade agreement ban that seemingly pro-investor/pro-consumer law? The same could be true for laws about corporate governance, CEO pay, etc.

The government procurement section should sounds meaningless, even though it's called "groundbreaking." It merely "allows" federal and state -- where's local? -- governments to condition contract awards on "five basic" labor standards. Isn't this already the case, that U.S. government organizations have broad latitude in awarding contracts -- including outright discrimination in favor of domestic suppliers? If they can only consider five basic labor standards, what can they not consider? This would be groundbreaking, certainly, if now government organizations have new restrictions on how they award contracts.

I'm getting very suspicious that this is just "fig leaf" language -- and not very much leaf or fig.


by BBCWatcher on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:15:52 PM EST

SWAT Section Really, Really Weak (none / 0)

Again, going from the summary, here's what's NOT mentioned:

- A specific amount (and timeframe) for new, additional federal funding of worker retraining and other trade adjustment programs;

- A requirement (and supporting funding) for additional worker displacement statistical analysis and reporting by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, to understand better the nature and scope of the ongoing problem;

- Any "throat to choke," such as a new "Bureau of Labor Competitiveness" and associated political appointee, within the Department of Labor;

- The aforementioned court remedies for displaced workers who do not receive appropriate federal retraining and other benefits.

If the agreement's details don't have any of these basic provisions (or something very much like it), the whole thing is a cruel joke and no better than the empty promises made during the NAFTA debate. There are many, many good people (like me :-)) who favor free trade, but we also recognize that trade results in real people losing their jobs, and that government has a moral responsibility to assist these workers.


by BBCWatcher on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:46:53 PM EST
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SWAT, retraining (3.00 / 1)

Also, I mean really has that been effective in the least?  It's almost non-existent for Professionals and what precisely is someone supposed to be retrained for when one has yet another trade agreement that is a glorified offshore outsourcing, labor arbitrage agenda?


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by Robert Oak on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:54:19 PM EST
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There is more to the environment ... (none / 0)

... than it would seem:

The environmental section looks rather weak. For example, the list of seven multilateral environmental agreements (MEAs) looks rather meaningless, because all of them are already in force and operating well.
... because there is a possibility of using these kinds of agreements as a pretext for violating international environmental agreements.

But there is certainly not much there, since the key issue is whether an individual nation can have its environmental regulations assessed in terms of their efficacy as environmental regulations first, and then for trade impacts when there are multiple equally efficacious instruments available.

The opposite ... first getting cleared as not affecting trade, and then you get to choose the residue, no matter how practically inefficient or ineffective, for your environmental policy instrument ... is the standard approach in the WTO.


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by BruceMcF on Sat May 12, 2007 at 08:35:58 PM EST

Chamber of Commerce (3.00 / 3)

If the Chamber of Commerce is saying that worker and environmental safeguards are unenforceable then you know that's true.


by cmpnwtr on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:07:18 PM EST

Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

This clears up a lot of grey area.  Most of this was covered in the NYT article a few days ago, but this is obvious much more specific.

I think this is a good deal.  I don't know why they didn't consult labor, but to be honest, I don't much care.  Legislators have a job to do on their own and if we are going to decry Republicans for listening to special interests, we should not get upset when congressional Democrats don't get permission slips from labor.

Much of the environmental section is, as was mentioned above, a restatement.  Not much there dealing with greenhouse gases, but I think in order to ask other countries to deal with greenhouse gases, we need to start doing so ourselves.  Since the Bush administration has no intention of doing so and the Congress cannot execute the laws or direct the EPA how to implement policies, addressing greenhouse gases was likely left out as part of the compromise.  I think if Nancy Pelosi had her way, we would have started regulating greenhouse gases yesterday and would have had such regulations in this agreement.  

I think there are some good labor protections in this agreement and that it was really a step in the right direction.  I think it gives the proper framework for how we need to be trading with the world, exporting our goods as well as our ideals.  My hope is that this will be properly implemented and that a Democratic president in 2009 and beyond will make sure it is such.  In the meantime however, if it is not implemented, I hope folks will pin the blame where it belongs: on Bush, not Pelosi, for she can't implement anything.


by KDJ on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:32:31 PM EST

Re: Trade Details (3.00 / 3)

"I don't know why they didn't consult labor, but to be honest, I don't much care.  Legislators have a job to do on their own and if we are going to decry Republicans for listening to special interests, we should not get upset when congressional Democrats don't get permission slips from labor."

This is why progressives don't win lasting majorities. When we look at labor as a "special interest group" and not as the fundamental mechanism with which to enact social change in society (think Clement Atlee and the labour party in Britain in 1946), then we'll continue to be beholden to the corporations and Washington consensus people that have driven us off the cliff in the first place.


by adamterando on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:40:34 PM EST
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Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

Labor is a "special interest group" to most people. It is a "fundamental mechanism with which to enact social change in society" to the elites in the labor movement and some of its members who see beyond the association-type benefits of their membership.

Although I do not agree with the reaction of some in the labor movement against this agreement between the Democrats and the Administration, that doesn't mean that they don't have the right to object. The fact is, the Dems would have never been able to get the White House to agree to all of their demands if it had not been for labor. I wonder if they would have even dared ask for so much without labor pushing.

If THAT is what it means to be a special interest group, labor should wear it proudly. They got what they have been asking for - short of stopping trade altogether, which is what some want.


by NewDemRex on Sun May 13, 2007 at 03:52:06 PM EST
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Re: Trade Details (3.00 / 2)

No, we must blame the Democrats who have involved themselves in this closed process.

You post is more of the "don't be alarmed folks, nuthin to see here" bull we get from people like those who Matt was talking about.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:47:48 PM EST
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But the labor protections are a dead letter ... (3.00 / 0)

... if the enforcement process works on the basis of a country that is party to the agreement complaining, and neither country party to the agreement wants to complain.


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by BruceMcF on Sun May 13, 2007 at 03:39:06 AM EST
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Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

Heinlein is the greatest. author. ever!


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by lockewasright on Sat May 12, 2007 at 09:39:50 PM EST

Re: Governmental Discretion (3.00 / 3)

It seems to me, a person not familiar with the details of trade agreements, that this whole ediface is built on faith that the executive branch of each government will actually do something to protect labor rights and environmental protection.  As mentioned above, if the non-US party ignores these areas, and Bush and successors can ignore the violations and nothing gets redressed.  

I guess I'm saying that persons (including membership or advocacy groups) affected by these agreements should have legal standing to bring suits to enforce the agreements (including the ability to bring class action suits).  I don't think US citizens have standing now to bring suit, and that is just an invitation to say stuff in agreements (with a wink) and then do nothing.


"Pay any price, bear any burden"
by JimPortlandOR on Sun May 13, 2007 at 03:54:26 AM EST

There is less to it than that ... (none / 0)

... it also buttresses an ability to fight national environmental protections via trade agreement tribunals. The WTO is still the main game, but if you were an industry trying to kill a regulation and lost your effort to scuttle it through the WTO, then the FTA's provide a back-up set of tribunals to get it ruled out as interfering with trade.

Note all the protections for the MEA's focusing on taking the assessment of the responsible multi-national organization ... those protections do not seem to be available for regulations which originate nationally. And that means that environmental efficacy will be adjudicated by a trade tribunal, strongly biased to avoid the slightest interference with trade and with no expertise to judge claims of efficacy of various enviromental policy options ... which is, after all, the crux of the complaints made by critics of WTO anti-environment trade rulings.

Of course, the Bush administration does not intend to work on expanding environmental protection, either at home or abroad, so its no loss to them to tie a future administrations hands.

The key question in most of this is not so much, "what does the Agreement say it allows", but, "who can bring a complaint and how is it resolved". According to Public Citizen, in the existing Peru and Columbian agreements:

On the other hand, the FTA's Investment Chapter allows foreign investors to challenge health and environmental regulations for cash compensation if they impede their ability to do business, which will put a big chill on efforts to protect this vital region.

I did not see anything in the heads of agreement that Matt posted to indicate any change in the bias, in which an investor can bring a complaint and demand that it be adjudicated, but someone with a complaint on an environmental or labor violation must hope that their government brings a complaint on their behalf.


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by BruceMcF on Sun May 13, 2007 at 01:01:17 PM EST
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The Public Citizen issues page on ... (none / 0)

... the FTA's can be here, in the "in depth" links to the upper right.


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by BruceMcF on Sun May 13, 2007 at 01:02:58 PM EST
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Another Rabbit-Hat Trick (3.00 / 3)

Why on earth should we fall for anything like this? I am against anyone who wants loyalty without accountability. That combination has not exactly been working too well for us lately, has it?


by blues on Sun May 13, 2007 at 10:32:33 AM EST

Re: Another Rabbit-Hat Trick (none / 0)

Accountability?  Why would Washington start here with accountability?


by johngreen on Mon May 14, 2007 at 08:14:45 PM EST
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Some Democrats (3.00 / 1)

once again are selling out workers.  

These kinds of deals with the folks who put Bush in will risk a Democratic defeat in 2008.


by littafi on Sun May 13, 2007 at 01:02:09 PM EST

Re: Trade Details (none / 0)

Is this a joke? The administration will be responsible? That doesn't sound right?Why would trading partners enforce their laws for workers? Most of these countries don't care about workers rights anyway. This is almost like trusting someone on the street not to steal your wallet if you leave it.

"Trading partners will be required to enforce their own environmental laws. The administration will be responsible for monitoring compliance".


by bsavage on Sun May 13, 2007 at 08:34:38 PM EST

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