Obama: $25 Million

Obama is claiming that it raised $25 million for the quarter, including $2 million for the general (with over 100,000 donors).  He might have outraised Clinton in primary cash, and we'll know when she lays out how much she raised for the general versus the primary.

Update [2007-4-4 11:35:14 by Jerome Armstrong]:

Here's the latest on the 1Q fundraising numbers:

  
           1Q(internet) General  Senate  Available  COH      Donors

Clinton    $26M (4.2)   $6M      $10M    $30M                50,000
Obama      $25M (6.9)   $1.5M            $23.5M             100,000
Edwards    $14M (3.3)   $1M              $13M                40,000   
Dodd       $4M                   $5M     $9M        $7.5M
Richardson $6M                           $6M        $5M
Biden      $3M                           $1M



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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

Wow.

And on top of that, he's not even close to tapping out his donors.


by b1oody8romance7 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:14:27 AM EST

STUNNING (none / 0)

what's Hillary's argument for the presidency now?


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:18:10 AM EST
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I think I just heard (3.00 / 2)

Bill Clinton scream. Ha Ha.

Good for Obama.

And it's good for Edwards. He was starting to get a little too much attention. Back under the radar for a little bit.


by david mizner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:18:26 AM EST
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Bill's quadruple bypass (3.00 / 0)

may not hold


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:20:29 AM EST
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Re: I think I just heard (3.00 / 0)

yah it is good for edwards.. you know...that he raised what 11 million less than obama..

you guys have some twisted "logic" around here....

if edwards had raised 25 and obama 14 you'd be screaming to the four winds VICTORY IS OURS...

but since its not your guy its actually good news

not sure why YOU have to play politics on this site.. shouldn't you leave that up to the politicians?


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:25:01 AM EST
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Re: I think I just heard (3.00 / 1)

I agree with them... Which ever of the big three can cost under the radar a bit until Fall while the other two tear each other up will have a good advantage if they aren't down too much.  I wish Obama was there personally, its how he won in 2004 in the Senate Primary... similiar scenario.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:36:10 AM EST
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Nah, I'm not a Republican (none / 0)

Money doesn't give me a hard on. Sorry.

Now if Obama decided to run a progressive campaign, then I'd take notice.

This is just cash.

Money can't buy you love or votes.


by david mizner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:38:33 AM EST
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Re: Nah, I'm not a Republican (3.00 / 1)

to say obama is not running a progressive campaign is just a lie.

you somehow ignore his track record and his current position on issues to claim he is not progressive.

I don't deny that edwards is progressive (despite some of his past votes) you shouldn't deny that Obama is.


by dpg220 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:46:38 AM EST
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Re: Nah, I'm not a Republican (3.00 / 6)

The problem is that Obama's rhetorical positions tend to be a lot more centrist than his actual votes and policy positions.  I'm sure it's intentional - it's always been clear that Obama is doing his best to be perceived as a candidate who is willing to reach out to his idealogical opponents in order to get things done.

The problem this runs into is that many progressives are not willing to accept even the language of compromise.  It's ironic, given the "my way or the highway" philosophy of our common enemy, that we seem to exhibit the same behavioral patterns when we see someone who is on our side display a willingness to compromise.

Perhaps we feel that the only way we can counter an opposition that uses brute force to ensure idealogical unity and conformity is by becoming just as conformist?


by dopplex on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:16:59 PM EST
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Re: Nah, I'm not a Republican (none / 0)

i could not agree more with your post. thank you.


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:19:02 PM EST
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Re: Nah, I'm not a Republican (none / 0)

Many political scientists tend to view the political spectrum as a circle than as a line... Therefore the farther left and farther right one is, the closer their tactics tend to become and both have a very my way or the highway mindset.  I had a lot of neo-hippie friends when I was in college in the late 90's and early aughts... (I was a student for a long time) and the one thing about them I always found hypocritical was how they claimed to be extremely tolerant and openminded (and they were with minorities, sexuality, etc) yet were extremely intolerant of people who didn't fit their viewpoints.  It was extremely hypocritical of them and sad to see.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:25:17 PM EST
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Re: Nah, I'm not a Republican (none / 0)

Democrats were supposed to compromise with republicans after they won in 2006.  So far it seems like partisan vote after another.  I doubt there is much to compromise after his policies are written up as long as Democrats hold a strong majority.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:53:36 PM EST
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No, it's more than just rhetorical (none / 0)

Personally, I think the netroots' fetish for pugilism is a little silly.
If Obama spoke of unity and consensus and also offered a bold progressive agenda, that would be one thing, but he's only doing the former.

I didn't deny that Obama is a progressive. Maybe he is, and if he is, his campaign should show the courage of his convictions.

Sorry, but your campaign can't be considered progressive unless it tackles head-on what Jim Webb correctly identifies as the country's biggest domestic issue, its number one probelem, the gap between rich and poor. Also the gap between the very rich and everyone else.

To do so, Obama would have to have the balls and brains to break with neoliberal economic policy, something so far he's been unwilling to do. On the contrary, he headlined the launch of a neoliberal bastion, Bob Rubin's Hamilton Group and said:

"...Our country owes a great debt to a number of people who are in this room because they helped put us on a pathway of prosperity that we are still enjoying, despite the best efforts of some....When Roger originally called to invite me, not only to this forum but to invite me to engage in this project, I couldn't help but think that this was the sort of breath of fresh air that I think this town needs...Now, the economic statistics of the nineties that we are all so familiar with speak for themselves--income growth across the board, 22 million new jobs, the lowest poverty rate in three decades, the lowest unemployment in years, and record surpluses.  None of  this, I would argue, happened by itself.  It happened because the leadership we had, including many in this room, was willing to take on entrenched interests and experiment with policies that weren't necessarily partisan or ideological."

Does he really think we owe a debt the neoliberals?
Does he really think neoliberalism is a breath of fresh air?
Does he really think Rubin took on the entrenched interests?
Does he really think Rubinomics is responsible for the prosperity of the nineties, and does he really think that was the kind of prosperity we can be proud of?
Does he really think Rubinomics isn't ideological?
What, by the way, is wrong with ideology?
Does he buy into the Washington Consensus on "Free Trade"?
Does he believe balanced budgets or social programs are more important?
He often says he's believes in a philosophy that transcends the old categories: What is it, then? What exactly is wrong with traditional Keynesian liberalism?
Will he raise taxes to pay for health care?
Are his fundraisers really shaking down lobbyists wives' as the Hill alleges?
Why did he vote against legislation that would have capped credit card interest rates?
Why did he oppose tort reform?

Real choices, you see, with real implications. It matters whether a candidate is a neo-liberal like Clinton or a populist liberal like Edwards. Obama seems to be, at best, a mix of the two, which is the wrong thing to be at this moment, when a populist platform is desperated needed to reverse income inequality.

Will Obama run a progressive campaign?

Very much an open question; the signs aren't promising.


by david mizner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:45:16 PM EST
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Re: No, it's more than just rhetorical (none / 0)

During the live webcast on Saturday, Obama's comments on income inequality were one of the many highlights that displayed not only his grasp of the issues, but of the impact those issues have on the lives of regular Americans.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 02:08:20 PM EST
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That's good to hear (none / 0)

What does he plan to do about it?


by david mizner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 03:26:42 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Ouch!  That's gonna hurt the Clintonistas.

HA!  

Obama's not my guy but hey, he just took her down a couple notches and that is never a bad thing.  

Inevitability my ass!


by IsThisOverYet on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:50:37 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

Over 100,000 donations, not donors. Donors was around 78,000 versus Clinton's roughly 55,000.


by skierx on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:15:27 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

His donors was over 83,000 it was on his website.  HRC's camp stated she had 50K donors


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:16:45 AM EST
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Here came the house parties... (none / 0)

Overall, Obama received contributions from more than 100,000 individuals, his campaign said. Clinton received donations from about 50,000 people, while Edwards took in money from about 37,000 donors.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit ics/chi-070404obama-money,0,7560926.stor y?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed


by aiko on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:31:08 AM EST
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They are incorrect on Edwards (none / 0)

not a whole lot but still, he had 40,000+ donors, not 37,000


by okamichan13 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:05:56 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

actually no.

after he counted all contributors he had over 100,000. the 83000 was before all were counted.

i got the email from the campaign. it read

"In less than three months, a staggering 100,000 Americans have contributed to our cause -- tens of thousands more than the number reported by any other campaign."


by dpg220 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:48:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

I LOVE to stand corrected on these numbers...there is something in the air out there for change...GO 'BAMA....


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:50:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Staggering is right ... wow. 100,000 contributors. That campaign did an amazing job of maximizing that number. That was their focus, and they succeeded wildly.

100000 people ... wow.


by BriVT on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:57:36 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Almost certainly outraised HC in primary cash if these figures are accurate, no?


by alw on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:15:31 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

Well, there is a new chief in town.  But what is remarkable is that only 2M is for the general and most of the donations was from individual donors, remarkable.  Obviously, he has connected and is saying something that people want to hear.  As for HRC, she is in trouble.  Not only in fundraising but many ppl that I know are on the bandwagon of "anyone but her", and that is definately NOT GOOD.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:15:50 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

Agreed.  We should also note Hillary joined the presidential race around January 22nd.  Obama joined around February 14th.  I don't think this is really neck and neck anymore.  I'd gander to say Obama beat her.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:29:01 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

He may be a newbie and he is obviously not perfect, but, so far he and his campaign execute well.  He is clearly doing a good job of turning enthusiasm into tangible campaign support.


by chrisbrandow on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:16:11 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

That is the point, turning enthusiam into people actually going to house parties, writing checks, mailing in money orders and donating on the web.  You have to give him massive credit for that.


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:18:12 AM EST
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the 5000 house parties (3.00 / 0)

as a key figure also. There has never been a grassroots structure like this in place so early. If it continues to grow, could be unbelievably powerful for the primaries, but even beyond this for the general election. They built this early -- in fact, simultaneously with his jumping into the race -- and it bodes well, especially for those interested in the potentially transformative power of the netroos.


by alw on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:22:02 AM EST
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Grassroots meets netroots and beats the machine! (none / 0)

icebergslim and alw I am glad that you guys are here.

I think this is the real thing.  Grassroots meets netroots and beats the machine!

The potential going forward is fantastic.  I bet those 100,000 donors (50,000 online) represent a real cross section of america: young, old, mothers, fathers, black, white, rich, poor.  pretty cool.


by aiko on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:37:39 AM EST
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Re: the 5000 house parties (none / 0)

Which makes Obama valuable as either the nominee or as a VP.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:42:58 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

Wait, Matt, shouldn't there be a "wow" in there somewhere?

And you probably want to correct that pronoun before people lose "it".

Seriously though, this is great news for progressive politics.  Obama has proven in the first cycle that he has the backing to compete, now in the next cycle he'll show that he has the ideas/policies as well.


by megaplayboy on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:16:35 AM EST

Now if only he would decide (3.00 / 1)

to run a progressive campaign.

This is great news for him, but come one, Money? That's the most significant thing he's done since starting his campaign, raise lots and lots of money. You can say wow, but I'm not wowed.


by david mizner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:20:31 AM EST
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Re: Now if only he would decide (3.00 / 0)

i'm shocked..mr edwards zealot will not admit to being wowed..


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:26:08 AM EST
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Re: Now if only he would decide (3.00 / 1)

Geez, sour grapes much?

He has a more liberal record in the Senate than John Edwards had.  His policy positions are highly progressive.

He far outraised a guy who's been running for President for the last 5 years and has had time to polish his message.  And he did it by energizing more people than anybody else running.  I'd say that's pretty darn significant.

The policy papers will come out this quarter or the next at the latest.  He will bring "it" to the debates, you can count on that.  


by megaplayboy on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:31:36 AM EST
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Re: Now if only he would decide (3.00 / 1)

Obama has his website open so you can give comments for his proposal, then his team is going to write a proposal, where people can make comments on it on barackobama.com  Where they will eventually make a final draft.  

I'd expect to see a finished healthcare proposal by the end of this quarter.  I'd expect to see the majority of his policies and proposals by the end of the third quarter.  

Maybe that's high expectations, maybe it's low.


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:35:37 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 1)

Yeah I breaking blued the press release I got:
The Obama for America campaign today announced that it will report raising at least $25 million from more than 100,000 people in the first quarter of 2007, with at least $23.5 million eligible to be spent in the Democratic primary.

[. . .]

The Obama campaign raised $6.9 million over the Internet from more than 50,000 donors.


www.adamconner7.com
by Adam Conner on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:16:52 AM EST

6.9 Million over the internet!!! (none / 0)

UN-FUCKING-BELIVEABLE......


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:19:37 AM EST
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Re: 6.9 Million over the internet!!! (none / 0)

There used to be a time when 6.9 million itself was a very strong first-quarter haul.


by b1oody8romance7 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:24:18 AM EST
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Re: 6.9 Million over the internet!!! (none / 0)

That is unbelievable!


by mattmfm on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:33:12 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

It's on now. I'm so excited!


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:26:14 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

$23.5 FOR PRIMARIES. IT'S ON. IT'S SO ON!

BTW-I just accepted a position for a second job.

"Obama, I got your back baby. I got you. There's PLENTY more where that came from"

;p


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:25:02 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

OK, I'll say it, quoting Pontificator...WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW.  These grass roots are planted deep.


by howardpark on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:31:37 AM EST

Zowie... n/t (none / 0)


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:32:21 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Obama is claiming that it raised?

Come on Matt, you're a Harvard grad... Fix your TYPOS!  :-P


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:34:12 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Nope. He thinks Obamas an "it". That's okay though. I'll let it slip. I'm too excited to bitch.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:38:17 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

COme on, don't be that way... I'm pretty sure he meant to say Obama's Campaign and left out Campaign.  


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:44:12 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Royt.

Because he was just dying to post this. Yeah, okay. He's been "perfect" all the other times. Hey, it's all good. This is confirmation that all smears and subtle smears mean nothing.


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:11:56 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Actually over the last few months Matt has had some very good posts on Obama, IMHO.  I stand by my assertation.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:26:59 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

For Matt who's not yet convinced on the numbers (claims)

Here's the stats my friend. Enjoy.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/e oqwrap/


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:36:50 AM EST

100,000 donors!!! (none / 0)

That is more than the website claimed.  I knew when I watched his campaign manager on television for CBS Channel 2 news in Chicago that they were going to have some startling numbers.  100K donors!  That is massive.  It just proves the HUNGER out there for change is in the air and people are on a mission.  Wow, I just can not get over 100K donors!!  Bill Clinton, I hope his heart surgery holds up!!  For real...


"I want my voice to be read"
by icebergslim on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:37:52 AM EST

Re: 100,000 donors!!! (3.00 / 0)

it's 2008 not 1992, Obama has captured the hearts of dems around the nation, Hillary still has the politicos and the establishment, I would much rather be in Obama's position right now.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:05:18 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 1)

Very impressive.  It's clear that Obama and Hillary are the top two in the money race and in the polls.  And Obama supporters somehow don't think there will be a bloodbath between the two?

Hillary has to slash Obama's throat if she expects to stay ahead of him in the polls, and when she does that, he can't run on the "high road" campaign he's had so far.  He's going to get down and dirty just like her and that will take some of the shine off.

Third place is a really nice place to be at this point.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:38:34 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Democrats all agreed to play nice.  If she doesn't, all the Democrats are going to stick her for it, and it'll only hurt her.  Part of Obama's appeal comes from the fact that he's against negative campaigning.

I figure he'll take the high-road and say something like, "I'm sorry Senator Clinton resorted to such harsh words, and thought such was appropriate."  (-ish Depending on what Clinton does or says)


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:45:31 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Obama is real good at taking the hits and making it look real bad on his attacker, she can't really go after him on the war, so "inexperience"
is the talking point, problem is execpt for her "first lady" time she's not that much more experienced than Obama anyway and her experiences aren't all good (the war vote, healthcare reform disaster)
Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:03:36 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 1)

I don't remember All Dems agreeing to play nice...  Where did you see this?


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:09:33 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

After the original Obama and Clinton spur, Richardson proposed that having a Democrat winning the white house was the most important goal, and they should be civil.  Biden said he'd jump on with that, and I think the rest did afterwards.  I noticed Dodd was all for saying why he's a good candidate, while not talking about the others, so the people can decide.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:55:41 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Right but there hasn't been a formal agreement to my knowledge.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:17:24 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Democrats will all denounce someone if they try to make it an ugly race.  They have agreed that winning the White House is more important than who wins it.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:25:40 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

It won't help her if she goes for the juggular against him. It can only make things worse for her campaign especially when you see her poll numbers.

Yes, she'll muddy him up at her expense. Not good at all.


"If you vote between the lesser of two evils, you're still stuck with evil." - Aaron MacGruder
by Nedsdag on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:49:11 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Apparently you weren't paying attention in 2004 when the Republicans smeared Kerry or when the DLCers smeared Dean.  


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:52:55 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

In 2004, Dick Gephardt and Howard Dean were at the top of the polls in Iowa.  They went super-negative on each other and turned voters away big time.  John Kerry and John Edwards topped out the field in Iowa by significant numbers.  Dean and Gephardt were left stuck in the mud that night.

If Hillary gets aggressive with Obama, goes negative against him, he can't stick with the high road.  Negative ads work.  He is still relatively unknown, and if he gives her the chance to define him as inexperienced or various other attacks.

As we saw when his Communications Director, David Gibbs, attacked the Clintons using the "Lincoln Bedroom" meme, Obama really isn't above the frey.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:18:10 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Well HE IS, its his people who aren't!!!  ;-)


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:28:20 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

From the recent NY Times article on Axelrod:

The Clinton campaign immediately called on Obama's team to repudiate the comments, but they refused, and afterward the two camps volleyed barbs back and forth for a day or so. It was one of those early campaign spats that get endlessly analyzed for who won some minor tactical advantage, but to Axelrod it was a mistake, a self-induced undermining of the transcendent character he spent so long helping to cultivate. The Geffen episode was "a good object lesson about how easy it is to slide into the morass," he told me. "I'm mindful of the responsibility not to lose our way, not to disappoint, not to sink into the conventional and lose our soul in the process. There are enormous pressures to conform. And to fight a small tactical battle."


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:51:03 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

I agree as well... but if Edwards continues to surge as he did in New Hampshire then he will be the one facing HRC's wrath.  Frankly, 3rd is the place to be... but who's in third the next few weeks will be interesting to see.

But Vox, I for one KNOW there is going to be a blood bath.  If it was just Edwards and Obama there would be some civility... add in Billary and its gonna get Ugly... The good news is whoever survives should be able to handle the GOP in the General.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:52:11 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

This does nothing but hurt Edwards. His recent boost from her cancer is going to be squashed by these numbers.


by mattmfm on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:39:33 AM EST

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No it doesn't.  It helps both Obama and Edwards... It hurts Hillary because as the one with the Inevitable candidate meme she should be way ahead.  Obama raising as much or more hurts her and shows she is vulnerable.  I predict Obama and Edwards both surpass her in Q2.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:48:38 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Good for him.  Unfortunate his supporters are gloating so much.
And so Hillary's two serious contenders raised 39 million to her 26.  Nice.
"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:44:04 AM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Not gloating just happy.


by pamelabrown on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:53:37 AM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

unfortunate edwards supporters are so immature as to  suggest its better to have raised less money than more money...or that they prefer to be in third place to being in first place..

i don't believe money is all important..in the end you have to be a good candidate and i believe obama is that man... but money does matter

and for edwards supporters such as yourself who have been posting nothing but diary entries the past weeks about "edwards surges..." and "edwards schools  obama".. "edwards loves burgers and if you hate cancer edwards is your man"...and then giving each other "3"'s and high-fives...

for you to say that obama supporters are "gloating" simply because they are happy the candidate they support is supported by one hundred thousand other people (financially).. i think that 's really rich..really takes the cake..

why don't you go back to your "edwards is the best" threads and leave us alone to enjoy our minute..eh?


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:00:30 PM EST
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DOn't be a jerk... Jallen is a good person.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:07:26 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

come on.. saying obama supporters are gloating when its only been 30 minutes since the good news numbers came out?

thats not cool...

and i'm fed up with edwards zealots.. i'm not going to take it anymore... they've had the gloves off for  weeks...


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:17:44 PM EST
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He is not an Edward's zealot... and if they bother you, why would you act like the zealots that bother you... You have been as of late.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:29:19 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

what are you talking about? i was in cape verde for three weeks and i think i posted one comment!

i stand by my statement: edwards supporters have been obnoxious on this board.

and i'm tired of it.  we have some good obama news  and within minutes edwards supporters are saying we're gloating? that its better to be in third? to quote prince: that money don't matter tonite?? its poor form.

anyways, i'm out on this thread.


by serge in dc on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:33:57 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 1)

Be fair... there were A LOT of Edwards supporters gloating after the New Hampshire poll came out.  I agree though that on both threads there is a bit of overkill.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:06:58 PM EST
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Everybody loves good news :) (3.00 / 0)

especially when it favors their candidate :). Kudos to Obama and his campaign. They've had some stumbles lately but this is a good sign that some things are working very well.

100,000 donors, my god thats impressive.


by okamichan13 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:17:55 PM EST
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Re: Everybody loves good news :) (none / 0)

I agree... People love good news.. but I think both sides have gone a bit overboard on a lot news.


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:34:23 PM EST
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Agreed.  There was a topic "Edwards schooled Obama"

21% to 20%

In a poll with + / - 5.3%
30% to 20% is a statistical tie.  

Early polling doesn't matter, good or bad.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:57:28 PM EST
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Er, the "schooled" statement was in reference to Edwards' and Obama's response to a possible Bush veto of the Iraq supplemental, not poll numbers.


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by clarkent on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:20:17 PM EST
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I'm not sure that was gloating over Edwards... more glee.

And:
"BREAKING NEWS ( OBAMA 25 MILLION) (none / 0)

SUCK IT CLINTON.

SUCK IT!

HA HA HA HA HA HA !

SPIN THAT ONE YA HATERS!

;P

by ObamaEdwards2008 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 08:05:16 AM PST "

Surely thats the worst, so all Obama supporters are not to be tarnished.  Myself, I've still got a smile on my face.  Barack is my #2, so I'm pretty damn happy.


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by jallen on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:33:59 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (3.00 / 0)

yeaaaa obama


by vamonticello on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:09:44 PM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

What were Dean's internet numbers in 2003?  Anyone know those for comparison?


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:12:50 PM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

I'll look, but I believe these numbers are about at the level of the peak quarter for Dean... Both in terms of online and total donors (of course the actual money total is far higher).


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:14:54 PM EST
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1st Quarter dean has 7 million with 12,000 donors

2nd Quarter Dean had 20 million with 75,000 donors.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:58:13 PM EST
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Is that total or just online?


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:19:07 PM EST
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I don't think so.  I think he was more suprising with the number of donors and the padding they gave to his sizeable amount.  


by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:24:43 PM EST
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Actually, Dean raised $2.3M in q1 03, $7.5M in q2 03, $14M in q3 03.


by blueflorida on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:27:16 PM EST
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Woops.  Maybe I had Edwards numbers mixed up with his, you're right though.  
 
by JeremiahTheMessiah on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:32:24 PM EST
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Thanks blueflorida, that sounds right...

I was a big Dean supporter and used to know this by heart.

Do you have a link? For some reason, I'm being dumb about where to find this info.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:35:28 PM EST
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Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

FEC page with all the background on the 2004 presidential primary fundraising.


by blueflorida on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:44:19 PM EST
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Congrats to Obama (3.00 / 0)

its a great sign for his campaign that it managed to turn all the enthusiasm into checks and takes a big bite out of the inevitiablity thing. In that respect it does help Edwards some too, but certianly gives a huge boost to the Obama campaign and will make future donors and endorsers certainly perk their ears up. Now the task for him is to follow up on this and build strong organizations and policy.

I think we are in for one hell of a primary. What we all need is a primary of truly competing ideas and polilcies, and not a coronation based on inevitability. I think this huge take is great for Obama but also great for the party as a whole.


by okamichan13 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:15:39 PM EST

Re: Congrats to Obama (none / 0)

Nice Statement!


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:37:32 PM EST
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Please add under-$100 percentage (3.00 / 1)

The table in the post is very helpful, but it would be even more useful with a column for 'percentage of $100-or-less contributions'.

Edwards reported that category was 80 percent of his first-quarter fundraising.  All will obviously be confirmed or adjusted only after the FEC reports are published.

At a minimum, these reports are unalloyed good news for the party's chances as a whole in 2008, even if you assume a certain amount of overlap among donors.


by Nell on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:17:04 PM EST

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by Nell on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:17:23 PM EST

The best news: Republicans lose out (none / 0)

Democratic fundraising just pretty pretty much stomped the crap out of Republican fundraising. Everyone has got to be happy about that.


by okamichan13 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:19:28 PM EST

Re: The best news: Republicans lose out (none / 0)

After 8 years of Bush hell proving just how important elections are, does that surprise you?


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:38:43 PM EST
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Well kinda (none / 0)

Still no clue how he they won the last 2 elections so I'm a bit cynical :). But not right now!


by okamichan13 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:51:27 PM EST
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here's a clue: (none / 0)

Voter fraud!


"It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One - you have to be right from Day One."
by schroeder on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:08:04 PM EST
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Hilary won't slime Obama herself (none / 0)

She'll get the Clinton media machine to do it for her.

The biggest problem Clinton faces is how much more likable and charismatic Obama is than her. Edwards is likable too, but doesn't have the same type of presence Obama has. Once we see more of Obama on television and in debates, his poll numbers will surge.

Obama is very progressive, people on blogs take too seriously things like his slip on gay morality, most voters even primary voters don't pay attention to one slip but make judgments on the character of the candidate.

I like Edwards too and would far prefer him to Hilary, I just think Obama has a better chance. If he can beat Hilary I predict he will help carry the Dems to victory in November.


by wiretapp on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:35:33 PM EST

Re: Obama: $25 Million (none / 0)

Anyone else wondering about the Obama announcement... it says OVER $25 million... So does that mean the final number is between 25 and 26?  It just seems a bit of a wierd statement... I am assuming we will get an accurate number soon?


by yitbos96bb on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 12:40:52 PM EST

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yeah, it probably means that haven't completely finished counting yet.


by blueflorida on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:24:44 PM EST
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I have a dumb question.. (none / 0)

When the camapigns do their FEC reports, how can you tell which donations came via the Internet and which did not?

I haven't done an FEC filing for a while and I was not sure how these figures came about. I'm not disputing it for any of the campaigns, I'm just curious.

It seems odd that Sen. Clinton's campaign seems reluctant to indicate how much of her big bag o' cash is designated for the general election ONLY. I wonder why?

I still am not sure who to vote for, but at this point I'll take anyone who can bring in a lot of people on board to give donations and volunteer. I can't take the thought of a President Romney or a President "backstabber" McCain in 2008.


by Schadelmann on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 04:45:35 PM EST

Biden's available funds (none / 0)

I know this is probably a virtually meaningless question in light of Obama's amazing totals, but you list Biden's available funds as $1M.  If he raised $3M and you don't indicate that any of it was money for the General, how is he left with only $1M available?


by andy stein on Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 02:40:46 PM EST


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