Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads

Back in 2006, one of MyDD's main projects during the summer and fall was the Adwatch. the purpose of the adwatch was to critique Democratic campaign commercials based on the criteria of the MyDD / Courage Campaign / Wright Consulting 2006 candidate memo. In the memo, we told candidates to focus hard on Iraq, to blame Republicans for it, to promise accountability and oversight on Iraq, and to clearly identify yourself as a Democrat. I still think that was good advice based on solid research, and I think we made a difference on 2006 Democratic messaging with that campaign.

Now, just a few short months later, Bill Richardson has started the 2008 campaign ad season by going on the air in Iowa and New Hampshire. As such, I would like to start up the adwatch again, although I should note that there is not candidate memo or other general theory currently serving as the touchstone for my critiques. Here are his two ads: a bio piece called "life's work" and an Iraq piece called "the wall."


Starting with "The Wall," I like the concreteness of the visuals, which strike me as very effective, and the message of total withdrawal. At the same time, I don't think the ad points out that Richardson's total withdrawal plan is different from that of other candidates. Then again, maybe that can wait--this is an ad where he is trying to introduce himself, not draw an immediate contrast with other candidates. What I don't like about the ad is that it does not blame Republicans for Iraq, even though it is quite clearly Republicans who managed the war into the ground and who now refuse to start brining it to an end. Saying you will "work with both parties" on Iraq I don't think accurately characterizes the current political difficulties in ending the war in Iraq. "Life's Work" is a more standard biographical spot, and as such is not the sort of ad we usually focused on in the adwatch. It is very well produced, and focuss on his obviously impressive resume, although it oddly never has Bill Richardson himself speaking in it. Do voice over commercials still work?

Overall, there are two problems with both of these ads: over-emphasis on bi-partisanship, and a complete lack of self-identification as a Democrat. Neither commercial offers any information as to Richardson's partisan affiliation, which is particularly strange since he is running for the Democratic nomination and since the Democratic brand is so strong right now. As for the consistent message of bi-partisanship, while I know that is what some pollsters (PDF) are saying Democrats want, I think that is faulty information. As I wrote last week:
Many establishment types will continue to argue that the country has a deep desire for bipartisanship even while Democrats hold the advantage, and even point to polls numbers indicating as much [PDF]. However, what are people going to say when they are asked whether or not they wish we could all just get along? No? It is like the crappy 2006 exit poll that asked people whether or not they thought combating corruption in government was important, and therefore supposedly proved that combating corruption was the number one issue in the campaign when everyone polled stunningly said that corruption in government was bad. Maybe next we should ask voters whether or not they like sunshine and puppies as a means of proving that sunshine and puppies are the most important issues in the campaign.

The country doesn't want compromise, or bipartisanship, or someone who straddles both parties. Right now, the country wants Democrats. All of our candidates running for higher office need to remember that, and we need to keep reminding them.
Both Iowa and New Hampshire resoundingly rejected Republicans in 2006, even supposedly "moderate" and "bipartisan" Republicans. Combined, despite their small size, those two states produced four of the thirty US house seats we pickup last year. Further, Democrats also took back every legislative chamber and governorship in both states that they did not already possess. These two states were among two of the biggest nodes in the 2006 landslides, so it doesn't seem to me that the good folks in Iowa and New Hamsphire want bi-partisanship--it seems like they want Democrats. I think Bill Richardson is listening to the wrong people if he thinks otherwise. I certainly hope he comes to more clearly and strongly identify as a Democrat in the future.

Update: This isn't directly related to the ads, but I wanted to note that the four new US house Democrats from Iowa and New Hampshire--Braley, Loebsack, Shea-Porter, and Hodes--not only took Republican seats, but are quite a progressive group. Residents of Iowa and New Hampshire didn't just reject Republicans, they embraced progressives. That could add an interesting factor to the early states.



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Bring back the horse ! (3.00 / 1)

That ad he ran while running for gov - him on the horse - was one of the best I've seen.  


by dpANDREWS on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:05:39 PM EST

Doubt it... (none / 0)

Bill Richardson has been pretty clearly in the centrist Dem camp for a while.  I think these ads are perfectly consistent with how Richardson views himself and what he'd like to present to voters.

That's one thing I don't get about the netroots sometimes...it seems like all a candidate has to do is chime in on the hot button of the day (i.e Richardson's completely out of Iraq comments) and suddenly whatever that politician has done in the past is moot.  I mean, these ads are who Richardson is.  Why is that a surprise?  If you're looking for the Dem "fighter" candidate, I'm pretty sure that John Edwards is auditioning.


by rashomon on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:07:25 PM EST

bill richardson (none / 0)

and "tax cuts"..

haven't we had enough tax cuts


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:26:02 PM EST
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Re: bill richardson (3.00 / 2)

I have benefitted from his TAX CUTS.

Richardson has managed to cut taxes on every New Mexican while funding innovative programs.  He has also kept us in the black.  

He eliminated sales taxes on food and medicine.  We all benefit from that.

Tax cuts don't always mean breaks for the wealthy.


by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:26:41 PM EST
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Re: bill richardson (none / 0)

very well put.  I'm a democrat, but i hate comments like we have had enough tax cuts.  If we can cut wasteful spending and use that money on what is necessary, i think that is the answer more than paying taxes.  I have heard people like Matt say that they feel good about paying taxes on tax day.  But i dont think anybody really enjoys paying taxes and having their money spent on things like the iraq war.  I like what Richardson has to say, and I would also like to see something like Gore's plan to get rid of the income tax and tax polluters so we can solve some environmental issues.


by DocD on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:02:46 PM EST
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FYI (none / 0)

we haven't paid a nickel for the Iraq war yet.  (it was almost all in "supplementals"

and no - I don't believe universal health care can be paid for by efficiency savings along.

Frankly I don't believe anyone who says they can pay for UHC, pay for Iraq, invest in tranforming our energy economy , balance the budget AND give MORE tax cuts.

they're full of it.


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:11:39 PM EST
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Re: FYI (none / 0)

Well, we haven't seen Richardson's detailed plan yet.  But, to call him full of it, when he is the most accomplished candidate thus far is ignorant.  If you look at what he has done for his state, its impressive.  I am not totally sold on anybody yet, but I think Richardson has the potential to be a really good president, and he has shown me a lot more than Obama and Edwards so far, although I do like them as well.  But I am with Chris on one thing, i want my candidate to say we will get all of our troops out of Iraq, no residual forces.


by DocD on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:17:39 PM EST
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Re: FYI (none / 0)

at the SEIEU health care forum in Nevada he talked about universal health care and using the money for Iraq to pay for it.

that really makes no longterm sense..

Richardson has great foreign policy experience but has yet to say much about domestic issues.


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:30:16 PM EST
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Domestic Issues (none / 0)

While your candidate has been talking about domestic issues, Governor Richardson has been working with his state legislature to deal with domestic issues. Talking about the plight of the poor and flying into the Lower 9th Ward is one thing, cutting taxes on food and medicine is another.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:50:33 PM EST
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Re: Domestic Issues (none / 0)

Bill Richardson is the son of a Citibank Exec.  John Edwards is the son of a millworker.  Bill Richardson made his way as a career politician (not that there's anything wrong with that) who consistently took among the most conservative/neoliberal positions in Congress, and fancied himself a diplomat, and worked in Henry Kissinger's firm.  John Edwards was an advocate for people who had been wronged by bad businesses, and in the Senate he consistenly advocated for regular folks on trade, on health care, etc.  Bill Richardson talks about bipartisanship, how great free trade and Bush's foreign policy are, and how we should have small government and tax cuts.  John Edwards talks about what it means to be a Democrat, how we need to have an economy that works for us (and not the other way around), and how we need a government that meets our needs and fulfills the promise of equal opportunity for all.
Yeah, it's an obvious choice for me.
"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:32:37 PM EST
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Re: Domestic Issues (none / 0)

Bill is not calling great the Bush foreign policy, he is calling him stubborn ¿did you see the ads? And free trade is great indeed when a government does more than allow the big corporations to be in charge of things.


What if the democracy we thought we were serving no longer exists, and the Republic has become the very evil we have been fighting to destroy?
by santos on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 06:38:09 PM EST
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Re: Richardson on Bush's foriegn policy (none / 0)

Where the hell did you ever find EVER Richardson praising the Bush Administration and his foriegn policy.  I defy you to find that and source it.

That is stupid.


by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 06:43:16 PM EST
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Re: Richardson on Bush's foriegn policy (none / 0)

http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/2005/ 03/did_he_just_say.html

"KATIE COURIC: Let's turn to Lebanon, if we could for a moment, Governor. Because as you know, Syrian President Assad has announced that his troops will withdraw from Lebanon, a country that Syria has occupied since the mid-70s. For people who may not be foreign policy experts, how significant is this?
NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR BILL RICHARDSON (D): Well, this is very significant. I believe the Bush Administration deserves credit for putting pressure, and saying that authoritarian regimes have to go. What is happening here is, the assassination of a very popular former prime minister in Lebanon, has fueled massive demonstrations in Lebanon, that hopefully will lead to all 14,000 Syrian troops out of Lebanon, plus their intelligence agents, by May. It means that in Lebanon, in Egypt there's some potential new elections. The Palestinian Territories; in Iraq; I think there's a wave of democracy caused by internal pressures, of young people in the Arab world, rooting against these authoritarian regimes--and pressure from the Bush Administration--
KATIE COURIC: I--
BILL RICHARDSON: They deserve credit.
KATIE COURIC: I was going to say, because a lot of foreign policy experts are hailing the Bush Administration's policies, and saying the Bush Doctrine, of spreading democracy throughout the world, there's clear evidence that it's working. You agree with that assessment?
BILL RICHARDSON: Well, it is working. Whether by design, or by accident, it is working. The fact that the President has spoken out, where in the past the US policy has winked at Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, because of their massive security, and we have energy interests there, we have military bases, we kind of said, "OK, it's alright not to be democratic. The President, in talking about freedom and democracy, is sparking a wave of very positive democratic sentiment that might help us override both Islamic fundamentalism that has formed in that region, and also some of the hatred for our policies of invading Iraq. So, this is not only bringing a good result in the Middle East, potential democracy and full elections, but also it is helping our security, perhaps making us safer, by having less Islamic fundamentalism--
KATIE COURIC: Right.
BILL RICHARDSON: ...because democracy provides an outlet against it. And also, younger Arabs that are fueling this discontent throughout the Arab world, becoming pro-US, which is a good sign for the future.
KATIE COURIC: Alright. Good news indeed."

He essentially parroted Tom Friedman and other neoliberals.  Now, of course, he's changed his tune, just like he did on school vouchers.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 10:49:34 PM EST
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Re: Domestic Issues (none / 0)

You aren't serious are you? This is starting to sound like the schoolyard taunt "My daddy can beat up your daddy."

Being the son of a Citibank exec or being the son of a mill worker, doesn't necessarily qualify one for the Presidency. If that were the case, an argument could be made that Jesus is the most qualified because he's the son of the Almighty.

Bill Richardson never fancied himself as a diplomat, he was one. When duty called, Richardson went and negotiated with some of the worst humans on the face of the earth.

As for public service you're talking about 6 years in the Senate versus years as a Member of Congress, Secretary of Energy, U.N. Ambassador, and Governor of New Mexico. There is no comparison.

Yes, Bill Richardson has supported free trade agreements, but he's also acknowledged the flaws in them and has said very recently that we need to ensure strong labor and environmental standards in any future trade agreements.

Are you seriously trying to compare Governor Richardson with Grover Norquist and other fervent anti-tax advocates? Grover has said he'd like to reduce the size of government so he can "drown it in the bathtub". Bill Richardson is making government work for the people.

While Republicans say they want to get government off your back, Bill Richardson wants to put government on your side, with accountability measures in place. There is a big difference, and don't mistake things like cutting taxes on food and medicine (very progressive policy) with lavish corporate giveaways. There is a difference between the kind of economic development Bill Richardson has led in New Mexico, and handing the keys of government over to the energy lobbyists like Bush and Cheney have done.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 07:40:54 PM EST
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Re: Domestic Issues (none / 0)

I don't trust someone who has proven to be at least as much of a neoliberal as the Clinton's with trade policy, or any aspect of governance.  And this is a race for the Democratic nomination; I don't want some centrist who legitimates right-wing talking points about government and economics.  I want a Democrat.  And John Edwards is a strong partisan Democrat.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 10:53:40 PM EST
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Re: Domestic Issues (none / 0)

Um, isn't that zealous ideology?

Do you really think that free trade is a right-wing talking point that must be categorically rejected?  Are all tax cuts evil, by definition?  Can a progressive never compromise with a conservative?


by daygator on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 09:35:42 AM EST
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HRYK (none / 0)

good call...free trade is a great thing from an economic standpoint. Tax cuts are good if they are targeted for the right people, and if the government can afford them. Its ridiculous that people seem to believe that these things cannot be progressive values.


by mihan on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 05:54:45 PM EST
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Re: bill richardson (none / 0)

Gore is calling for replacing the payroll tax, and replace it with a carbon tax.  It is irresponsible because a carbon tax would not be a sustainable source of funding.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:34:08 PM EST
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Re: bill richardson (none / 0)

yeah the elimination of the food tax back at home in NM was a big deal...


www.adamconner7.com
by Adam Conner on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 10:22:45 AM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Agree with most of the analysis. I would agree with both negative points. The lack of identification as a Democrat is glaring - he is running in the Democratic primary after all. I'm not as completely taken with the second ad, as the 'wall' is an inherent symbol of bipartisanship more than it is about Iraq.


by PsiFighter37 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:10:09 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

I assume the wall one is for New Hampshire. In New England, I think that would play pretty well, especially as he is essentially introducing himself in that very anti-war region.

I think the bio one is very effective.

The guy is a centrist Democrat, so he is almost certainly listening to people who have been wrong for the last 8 years.


Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:15:40 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

I've been told "The Wall" was filmed in NH, which must be true, since it looks like it could've been filmed down the road from me, or anywhere within an hour radius.

Old stone walls like the one behind him are a feature of a fair portion of the NH landscape.

(It's really fun to go tromping through the woods and find an old stone wall which used to delineate bordering pastures, back when our trees took second place to sheep and cows.)

For me, "The Wall" immediately brought up Robert Frost's Mending Wall.


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.
by Dean Barker on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 07:18:39 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Especially since the whole no "residual forces" thing was just a sound bite.  I heard him on Ed Schultz explaining that he plans on withdrawing from Iraq, but keeping forces in the region for counter terrorism measures and protecting our interest in the region.  His "total withdrawal" thing is so disingenuous to me.  Oh look the troops are out of Iraq and happy and safe.


by Kingstongirl on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:17:47 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

Total withdrawal from Iraq and total withdrawal from the entire region of the Middle East are different things. There is nothing disingenuous about it.
by Chris Bowers on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:30:32 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

And none of the other candidates have taken Richardson's position on Iraq.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:37:59 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

I am sooo tired of Democrats being ashamed to be Democrats and spewing "bi-partisanship" ad nauseum.  Whereas the Republicans scream their party name and the term, "conservative" from the rooftops.

Yes, it is ONLY language.  But it matters.  Words matter in negotiations.  The more we talk like this, the more we unilaterally disarm and start the game already in the hole.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:20:51 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

There's a big difference between candidates who form their views to be more electable (disgusting!) and candidates who promote the idea of bipartisanship (practicle!)

Like it or not, there's a large group of Americans that hate the same things we love.  Someone's gotta communicate and compromise with them.

Richardson's understanding of this reality is proven, refreshing, and laudable.


by daygator on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 09:45:41 AM EST
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glad he's not going after (3.00 / 3)

Edwards Voters.

I promise you Edwards will not have any ads promising tax cuts or reaching to the other side.

As Bill Moyers said,  "having two versions of a side and meeting in the middle doesn't always get you to the truth"


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:24:43 PM EST

I don't think he's going after (3.00 / 1)

Edwards voters. There are a fair number of moderate/centrist Democrats in Iowa. I think he may be trying to compete with Hillary for those.

I also think the bipartisan language may be an attempt to get voters who are drawn to Obama but question whether Obama has enough experience.


Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.
by desmoinesdem on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:47:01 PM EST
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Re: glad he's not going after (none / 0)

In New Mexico, he's used tax cuts to reward companies that put people to work. That means Bill Richardson is rewarding businesses that are good corporate citizns and doing right by working families. If John Edwards doesn't think this is a good idea, then it sounds to me like more jobs will be outsourced to foreign countries if Edwards is elected.

Bill Richardson created the "High-Wage" tax credit for companies that pay over a certain wage and made the "Rural Job Tax Credit" permanent to create high wage jobs in rural New Mexico.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:51:52 PM EST
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Re: glad he's not going after (none / 0)

Except that part of every soultion that Richardson talks about involves tax cuts of some kind.  That's the troubling part.  Oh, and he also disparages Democrats with all his tax-cut talk.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:58:09 PM EST
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tax cuts (none / 0)

Until democrats grasp the notion that the majority of the US wants a reduction in taxes and responsible spending we will never get the White House back.  That is a simple fact of life.  Americans are perfectly willing to pay taxes to support their country, but right now the middle class is being squeezed out of existence.  Bill Richardson has reduced taxes, encouraged business growth, and increased social spending while balancing the budget.  Ask former President Walter Mondale how popular the "You bet I am going to raise your taxes," is with the electorate.


by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 06:41:31 PM EST
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Re: tax cuts (none / 0)

I'm sure they'd also like free ponies.

Contrary to popular opinion amongst consultants, people aren't stupid. They're perfectly capable of understanding that paying taxes for something new such as UHC brings them long term benefits.

Also, how is the middle class being squeezed out of existence? Sure, the economic situation isn't great right now, but there is not a serious recession. Even if there were, it's not the middle class who'd get hit first, it'd be the working class. But of course, Democrats can't talk about the working class, else people think they're a bunch of drug-addled commies coming to collectivise your land...


Visit Forgotten Countries, my new foreign policy-based blog
by Englishlefty on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 08:28:28 PM EST
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didn't work out so well in NC (none / 0)

IBM sold "Lenovo" which got millions in tax breaks to create or maintain jobs but are cutting them instead.. (although in fairness - they haven't gotten the perks yet cause they didn't meet the standards).

In the TV ad above, unless it went by really quick Richardson did not say what the tax cuts were for.  most Iowa/NH voters will have no idea about the explanation you gave in NM... but will likely infere tax cuts = income tax cuts


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:10:28 PM EST
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In Addition (none / 0)

From the New Mexico Economic Development Department:

Governor Richardson has cut more than $1 billion in state taxes since 2003 including eliminating the tax on food and medical services, cutting income taxes for every New Mexican and providing tax incentives to encourage quality businesses to move to and expand in New Mexico.
The federal Labor Department recently reported 3.2 percent job growth in New Mexico, the 6th strongest rate in the nation. Under Governor Richardson's leadership, more than 72,000 new jobs have been created --26,200 new jobs during the past year alone--showing that New Mexico's strong, broad-based economy continues to improve.

You can't argue with results, and Bill Richardson gets results, not just for business but for working families as well.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:13:19 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Overall, there are two problems with both of these ads: over-emphasis on bi-partisanship, and a complete lack of self-identification as a Democrat.

Yeah, that's how I see Obama, too.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:26:17 PM EST

trying to take it down a notch (none / 0)

then as someone upthread said this is clearly a 'centrist" ad.. is it to go after some obama or hillary voters?


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:51:40 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

I think the Governor is losing weight.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:26:20 PM EST

yes, definitely (3.00 / 1)

In early March, Richardson gave an interview to Drew Miller of the Iowa progressive community blog Bleeding Heartland. In that interview, he mentioned being on a diet and claimed to have already lost 25 pounds.

Links to that audio interview and a written transcript: part 1 and part 2.

Drew threw some off-the-wall questions at Richardson (like asking him to tell a dirty joke), but the governor was not rattled.

And as long as we're getting all Iowa linky, Essential Estrogen put up video from Richardson's campaign appearance in Cedar Rapids last Friday: click here for part 1 and click here for part 2.


Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.
by desmoinesdem on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:43:15 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

That's good news. From listening to pundits talk about a potential Gore candidacy, I've learned that it's deeply unethical and gut-splittingly hilarious for an overweight man to run for president.


by arbitropia on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:10:06 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Yes, because as we all know thin people are so much smarter, more ethical, and more trustworthy than fat people. Fat people will eat your children and use your tax dollars to get pizza delivered.

It's just simple math.


by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 06:47:48 PM EST
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Weird (3.00 / 3)

Do Richardson, Hillary, and Obama know that the General comes after the Primary and that to participate in the General you have to win the Primary?

I knew there'd be an opening on the left for Edwards. I didn't know it would be so enormous.


by david mizner on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:44:05 PM EST

Opening on the Left (1.00 / 2)

Lyndon LaRouche has a huge opening on the left too, but it doesn't mean he's going to get the nomination.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:20:50 PM EST
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Re: Opening on the Left (none / 0)

amazingly LaRouche is only polling 2 points below Richardson.

(sorry couldn't resist)


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:38:50 PM EST
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Re: Opening on the Left (none / 0)

That's called "Dodd country" according to Jon Stewart.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:41:50 PM EST
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Re: Opening on the Left (1.00 / 1)

Well put Ken.  That is exactly right.


by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:40:07 PM EST
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Re: Weird (none / 0)

This is a predictive matter, and not a normative question, but when's the last time a Democrat has won the presidential primary by being the guy furthest to the mainstream left?  Not Dean/Clark, not Bradley, not Harkin/Brown, not Jackson (and not Jackson in 1984) . . . you have to go back to McGovern, I think.


by Adam B on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:45:40 PM EST
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you'll also know (none / 0)

you have to go back to Kennedy to find the front runner democrat who won both the primary and general election.

so I guess HIllary's out than too.


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:50:13 PM EST
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Since we're throwing out stats. (none / 0)

It's also been over 40 years since a Democratic Senator or former Democratic Senator as the case may be, has been elected President of the United States.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:54:38 PM EST
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Re: Since we're throwing out stats. (none / 0)

In other words, unless one of the Dem Southern Governors runs -- Mike Easley, Tim Kaine, Phil Bredesen or, hell, Mark Warner -- we're screwed. :)


by Adam B on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:15:14 PM EST
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Well, that's one of the reasons (none / 0)

people like me are excited about Edwards. We believe he's both the most electable and the most progressive. Our Reagan, if you will (and I doubt you will.)


by david mizner on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:55:57 PM EST
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Re: Well, that's one of the reasons (3.00 / 1)

No Dem born in Hawaii has ever lost a presidential run.


by Adam B on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:12:33 PM EST
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Comment of the Day (none / 0)

I am not quite sure why...but I just think that is the comment of the day.  

We have our prize winner.  Don, tell us what Adam B has won...


by Demo37 on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 01:38:16 AM EST
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I agree (none / 0)

I wish Obama learns to reach out to the left a little more. He is the most progressive in the field judged by his record, but he seems to have this bad idea of being cautious and bipartisan all the time. The Democratic primary is over the day Obama starts playing to the base.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:32:17 PM EST
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It's a primary ad. (none / 0)

Actually the fact he's running in the Democratic primary is pretty good reason for the lack of identification. It's self evident, there are no candidates from other parties running for the democratic nominination.

The ad is aimed completely at democrats party members, they know the party. they like the party, they work for the party. It's hard to do party building in that crowd because the party for them is compareable with aa castle with turrets and 10 feet thick walls with proud blue banners.

I do concede as soon as republicans start running the be the Democratic nominee then it's time to concider mentioning it. And seeing the polling numbers that may not be far off. but untill then running for a post with in a party tends to be self-indentifying


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:50:50 PM EST

Re: It's a primary ad. (3.00 / 2)

it will be interesting to see if any republicans run ads about "reaching out" or bipartisan?


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 02:53:11 PM EST
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Re: It's a primary ad. (none / 0)

"I'm committed to putting partisan politics behind us. I've reached across the aisle to find common ground with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller, and I greatly admire former Democrats such as Ronald Reagan, Richard Perle, and Paul Wolfowitz."


by arbitropia on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:15:45 PM EST
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Re: It's a primary ad. (none / 0)

who's the quote from?

I thought lieberman, zell miller, and wolfowitz are all on the same side - the wrong one.


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:19:39 PM EST
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Re: It's a primary ad. (none / 0)

not a real quote, just a clumsy attempt at a joke


by arbitropia on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:35:07 PM EST
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it could be real (none / 0)

cause all the  bipartisan things bush support mean lieberman agrees too


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:39:52 PM EST
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Re: It's a primary ad. (none / 0)

Ooh, they will, they will!

the republican aisle runs at 33%
the democratic aisle is at 50%

They won't mean it, but they'll say it...


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:29:43 PM EST
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Good ads. I like them (none / 0)

As for the not pushing the "Democratic brand" point Chris raises, we should remember that he is introducing himself to the national voting public with these ads, and IMO it is better to approach it the way you'd like to be seen in the long run through the general election and subsequent governance.


by NuevoLiberal on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:03:01 PM EST

Re: Good ads. I like them (3.00 / 1)

Nuevo
I like your choices, but if Gore doesnt run, you gotta like Richardson/Obama rather that the other war around.  Richardson has to be closer to Gore on a lot more issues, as well as experience.
by DocD on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:10:18 PM EST
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Re: Good ads. I like them (none / 0)

Nope, Obama is much closer to Gore than is Richardson. But it's true that Richardson has more experience.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:34:31 PM EST
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Re: Good ads. I like them (none / 0)

They all look about the same to me, though Richardson looks a little worse, and Gore a little better.  But not very different.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:46:25 PM EST
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Critiques by a Richardson Supporter (none / 0)

I partially agree with Bower's analysis of selling the brand. I think that would work well especially for him. If I am the media guy, this is the message I am going for. "Democrats did it" as Mario Cuomo said in his 1984 DNC speech. However, I would expand to "Democrats did it, I have done it, and we can do it together to restore America." This, I think would resonate because he can prove he has done things unlike the other candidates.


by KJCity520 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:27:33 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 0)

Is it a great idea to introduce yourself to Americans by showing pictures of you schmoozing with Saddam Hussein?


Michigan For Edwards and Labor-Netroots for Edwards
by philgoblue on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:27:46 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 0)

Yeah, I wondered about that too. They might have chosen a better picture.
by Chris Bowers on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:39:41 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

I'm more concerned about the narrator in that clip and the b&w focus -- it sounded like "I am an older, responsible grownup narrator", and all that b&w felt like an obituary.  Use a younger voice or a female narrator instead, maybe.


by Adam B on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:46:51 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Schmoozing with Saddam Hussein? Try negotiating the release of American hostages. Has Edwards ever negotiated anything on behalf of the United States? What's his foreign policy experience? Bill Richardson has been delivering foreign policy results for years.


by Ken Camp on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:40:35 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

OK, have it your way.  Please show more ads of him shaking hands with a smiling Saddam Hussein!


Michigan For Edwards and Labor-Netroots for Edwards
by philgoblue on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:00:17 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Wait, so now you're only allowing former diplomats to be president? I suppose it beats the soldier-presidents, but I don't quite follow your logic.


Visit Forgotten Countries, my new foreign policy-based blog
by Englishlefty on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 08:33:27 PM EST
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good catch (none / 0)

you should be working for the Edwards campaign as they obviously need the help catching things like that.

But yeah I probably would not have put shaking hands with Saddam Hussein in an ad if I were advising...


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:43:12 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

It shows that you've put your butt on the line and gotten things done overseas. While not invading a country.


by emmettoconnell on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:44:06 PM EST
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Saddam Hussein Photo (none / 0)

I think it does several things.  First, it draws a distinction between himself and Bush -- Richardson can, and will, use diplomacy, even with dictators.  Secondly, it reinforces his message that he will restore some credibility to U.S. foreign policy -- this is a man with 4 Nobel Peace Prize nominations -- (reinforcing point 1) can you imagine how much better off we'd be if he'd been in office instead of Bush?  Third, it interjects him into the current foreign policy crisis -- he's dealt with the situation in Iraq before, he knows the ground -- and whoever the next president is, there's going to be serious work to be done in Iraq.  Why not someone who is a proven peacemaker, and who's dealt with Iraq before?  

I think that's what it is intended to convey.  


by Jbearlaw on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:23:59 PM EST
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Yeah, I noticed that (none / 0)

It calls to mind Rummy's famous visit to Baghdad.


by david mizner on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 07:03:41 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

Maybe you had your volume down, because right then it said he was "freeing the release of hostages from some of the world's worst dictators."

Or maybe you are just trying to bring down people on our side of the aisle before the primary?  I guess if Karl Rove does it, it's good enough for you...


New Mexico politics from the local perspective.
by fbihop on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 08:10:42 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

Reaching across walls to a Party that has backed everything Bush had done, that gets in teh way of passing the damn minimum wage?  Blah.  Defeat Republicans!  Elect a large majority and then intimidate them with another election (just as was done to use in 2002)!


Michigan For Edwards and Labor-Netroots for Edwards
by philgoblue on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:30:11 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (3.00 / 1)

It seems to me that if you really feel the need to talk about bipartisanship, then you could at least phrase it as something like "any Republicans willing to help me change the course of this country are welcome, but we'll change course no matter what"


by Lucas O'Connor on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:31:11 PM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Thats a good idea, but I think you guys are missing something. A large part of his bipartisanship talk is about not talking up or down Democrats and the fact that Democrats do not have to run a negative campaign to win (unless first provoked of course).


by KJCity520 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:36:53 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Which they will be. But you can be proudly Democratic without going negative, and it makes for a more effective counterpunch - righteous anger always beats indignation.


Visit Forgotten Countries, my new foreign policy-based blog
by Englishlefty on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 08:35:18 PM EST
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It's a Primary (none / 0)

So does he even need to announce he's a Democrat? I agree it's necessary in the general, but especially in Iowa it's a waste of five seconds because it offers no new information and does not distinguish him from his opponents.


by CT student on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:45:03 PM EST

Re: It's a Primary (3.00 / 1)

I think he does, because both Republicans and Democrats have contested primaries this time around. In 2004, it wasn't nearly as essential.
by Chris Bowers on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:47:29 PM EST
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and at least one republican (none / 0)

will run on reaching out/bipartisanship and getting things done.

I don't know if Iowa or NH allow independents to vote but it's not impossible with ads like these to see an independent ask for a republican ballot to vote for richardson.


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 03:53:39 PM EST
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Re: and at least one republican (none / 0)

Independents make up roughly 1/3 of NH's voters, and they do vote in primaries.

And the really good news is that (excuse the lack of link; it was mentioned a month ago or so here and on Blue Hampshire) recent polling shows that 60-odd % of them are planning on voting for a Dem in the primary.


Wonder if Sununu's fired now.
by Dean Barker on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 07:24:16 PM EST
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Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Here's for bringing adwatch back!

It must seem boring for you to belabor these points, but repeating the critical message is the only way to get the message across.


Me | My Work | Future Majority
by Josh Koenig on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:14:18 PM EST

If Dems had balls (none / 0)

stood up for their party, stood up for their ideals, stood up for liberalism/progressivism, kept attacking Republicans, kept using "conservative" in a derogatory sense - then GOP would not exist today. There would/should be no room for a semi-fascist party in the US.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:38:54 PM EST

Superficial but... (none / 0)

Richardson sure looked great in the Wall ad.  I guess there is hope for middle aged fat guys.  He sure has slimmed down!


by howardpark on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 09:35:46 PM EST

Disagree with your review ... (3.00 / 1)

Sorry, but I found the review off-base.

"It oddly never has Bill Richardson himself speaking in it. Do voice over commercials still work?"

Of course they do.  Would you have had Richardson say all of this in his own voice?  That would come off as more than a little egotistical.  I suppose there are other ways of telling a person's life story, but this pretty much delivered the information and told me some things I never knew about him (am I the only one surprised by four Nobel Peace Prize nominations?).  I also thought it sounded impressive and the voice lent gravitas.

"What I don't like about the ad is that it does not blame Republicans for Iraq"

Ok, this is my biggest problem with your review.  Frankly, as a Democrat, I'm a little tired of the blame game.  Also, give the voters some credit -- Richardson makes it clear with the last line ("being stubborn isn't a foreign policy") that he's talking about Bush without belaboring it.  He also doesn't sound like he's whining about Republicans when he says it or is pointing fingers.  Voters have passed judgment on the Republicans and now it's time to look forward.  Just because the ad doesn't stoop down to a level that you would prefer doesn't mean that it doesn't articulate a vision and an approach to solving problems.  I would prefer a candidate who articulates a vision, not goes around blaming Republicans for the mess we're in.  A lot of Democrats voted for this mess, too, including two of the leading candidates.

"There are two problems with both of these ads: over-emphasis on bi-partisanship, and a complete lack of self-identification as a Democrat."

This is another misfire in your review.  After six years of complete gridlock (eight if you count the Monica years), many Iowans and New Hampshire voters, like many Americans, want Washington to finally get something done.  In this ad, Richardson sounds like someone who can win the general election, and Iowans have been known to gravitate to the candidate they think can win it all (witness their selection of John Kerry in 2004), and New Hampshire voters gravitate to the independent candidate.  To argue that Iowans and New Hampshire voters want partisanship just because they elected Democrats is off-base.  They wanted change, so they voted for Democrats.  But that doesn't mean that they want to replace Republican my-way-or-the-highway politics with Democratic my-way-or-the-highway politics.  I think they, like most voters, are seeking a middle ground of reasonableness and maturity, and that's what I got out of these ads.

Also, you criticize Richardson for not wearing an "I'm a Democrat" button on his lapel.  I think Democratic voters are smart enough to figure out who the Democrats are that are running.  I'm also, frankly, a little wary of anyone who feels they must blare their party ID to me before they think I will listen to them.  Of course he's a Democrat.  I'd rather he not waste time in a 30 second ad telling me he's a Democrat when I already know that.  I'd rather hear how he's going to fix this country.  And thinking I need to see the word "Democrat" on the screen to know he's a Democrat is a little insulting.

I'm not totally convinced by Richardson yet, but I learned a lot about him from these ads and thought they set a pretty good bar for the others to meet.  He sounds smart and well-prepared to be president.  I also think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to diplomacy.  That would be refreshing for a change.


by NoneSuch on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 12:38:16 AM EST

Very Ho Hum... (none / 0)

I have to say these ads struck me as very ho hum, very quiet and unassuming.  Granted, I suspect this was on purpose. These were probably designed to be quiet, simple introductions.  (Maybe it is a little bit too early to be speaking the truth with strength and conviction.  Or, is it?  Something tells me the shadow of Dean's experience in Iowa/2004 looms over some of these decisions.)

In the first ad...is 80,000 new jobs created a lot for New Mexico?   Sixth best in the country?  Which means what? Total number?  Per capita? Richardson is number six? Huh? I say take that sixth place thing out.


by Demo37 on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 02:39:13 AM EST

Re: Adwatch: Bill Richardson's First 2008 Ads (none / 0)

Would I be remiss in noting that "The Wall" ad must have been shot almost six months ago?  The forest atmosphere surrounding the governor just shouts late October - some leaves on the ground still with some color, some reaping or cutting done of grass/alfalfa in the background.  His campaign clearly figured that they would be able to use the basic message.  They just couldn't count on Dubya's team's being stupid enough to try to build a wall through downtown Baghdad to highlight Richardson's message thrust.  Life always best fiction.


by VizierVic on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 07:22:51 AM EST


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