Are the Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon Bush?

By almost any measure George W. Bush has proved to be the most conservative president in the modern history of this country, using all the powers at his disposal and then some to try to move the country to the right. But what do conservatives now think of the President? According to the straw poll of those attending CPAC last week, which represent a rather elite group of conservatives, the movement seems about ready to throw their beloved president under the bus. The Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire has the story.

Ronald Reagan is alive and well -- at least, he was at the Conservative Political Action Conference over the weekend. In a straw poll of conference participants, 79% said they would support "a Ronald Reagan Republican" for president, while only 3% said they would support a "George W. Bush Republican." Still, 82% said they favor the president's strategy in Iraq.

With President Bush's approval numbers in the toilet and seemingly going further down, it's no wonder that so many conservatives no longer care to call themselves George W. Bush Republicans. Pollster.com has not updated its presidential approval trend estimate in almost a week, but even then they pegged the President at a sub-35 percent approval rating. A simple average of the eight national polls in the field within the last two weeks (here, here and here) places the President's approval rating at below 33 percent. Suffice it to say that he is not a popular President and is, in fact, among the most unpopular Presidents in the history of this republic.

Still, for as bad as things are currently for President Bush, they would certainly get worse if conservatives abandoned him, too. True, the poll question above was more of a choice between Presidents Reagan and Bush than one that gauged support for President Bush (there was not, for instance, a question measuring the President's job approval rating -- or at least not one that was released publicly). But at the same time, the fact that so few of these elite conservatives wanted the next GOP nominee to carry the mantle of George W. Bush is quite telling. And if these elite sentiments trickle down to the base -- and they quite possibly will -- we could see a further deterioration of support for President Bush, both around the country and potentially up on Capitol Hill, further weakening the White House's hand as it tries to advance its radical agenda.



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Re: Are the Conservative Elites Ready (3.00 / 1)

What the hell difference is there between a Ronald Reagan Republican and a W Republican?  Both were far right wingers who left the country in a shittier state than they found it.  Reagan had smarter advisors I guess and he could speak more eloquently than Bush, but besides that... What's the difference?


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 08:14:13 PM EST

The floor is higher than we hope (none / 0)

We might see a small trickle, but research shows about 25% of the population are "Right Wing Authoritarians" who will support a right wing president no. matter. what.

Of course I'm biased by reading the excellent (and free) online book "The Authoritarians" by psychologist Bob Altemeyer.

They will stand by this president however much they might wish for Reagan to take his place.  

So if Bush ever hits 25%, I will be satisfied he is at the essential theoretical floor of his popularity.


by scientician on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 08:48:59 PM EST

Re; Are the Conservative Elites Ready (none / 0)

What's the difference?
yitbos96bb is correct on the similarities,
but how about one giant usurpation of
presidential powers by W?
That's the difference.
by yellowdogD on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 08:52:48 PM EST

Re: Are the Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon B (3.00 / 1)

I think you're reading this wrong.

They want someone to carry Bush's mantle (see: 80% support his Iraq bullshit) but do it competently, with more style... so that people start to buy into it. It has everything to do with Bush's character and personality, not his policy. They like his policy.... they just hate his incompetence and inability to sell it.


by AaronE on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 08:55:21 PM EST

Re: Are the Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon B (none / 0)

I never really understood the deification of Ronald Reagan, by anyone.   He didn't live up to so-called conservative principles (government "grew" under his administration) and abortion sure didn't end.  He gave good quote, especially when talking about the USSR, but that's about it.  


by LionelEHutz on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 09:02:16 PM EST

Re: Are the Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon B (none / 0)

He gave a good quote and he could SELL it. And he was competently reactionary, which is exactly what they always wanted. His policy sucked, but he didnt make a fool out of himself. Think about Obama. He can sell it. Clinton could sell it. Bush just can't. thats the difference.


by AaronE on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 09:09:15 PM EST
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Re: Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon Bush? (none / 0)

The Fiscal Conservatives have been mad at Bush for a while now.  Deficits as far as the eye can see.  

The Social Conservatives are not entirely pleased with Bush because of the lack of push for the Gay Marriage Amendment.  He gave them Roberts and Alito, so that ameliorated the situation.

The Isolationist Conservatives are not really keen on Bush because of his immigration stance and his invasion of Iraq.

Hmm, how is he different than Reagan?


by Kingstongirl on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 09:23:20 PM EST

Maybe... (none / 0)

    They do seem poised to abandon Bush, but they are waiting for the right time - 2009.  Until then it is detente.  If they won't abandon Bush for the travesty that is the Iraq War, they won't abandon him for anything.  I'm really astonished by the continued Republican support for this war.  It's been a complete disaster, and only blind people and Republicans can't see that.  They support Bush and Giuliani to win, to beat those damned liberals.  They don't support Bush and Giuliani because of their principles.  I think it's foolish to believe that Republicans will publicly go against Bush until he leaves office in 2009.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 09:34:43 PM EST

Re: Are the Conservative Elites Ready to Abandon B (none / 0)

So what.

I'm just a little more concerned about what the so-called 'Democrat' Party is up to.

Republicans can drink all the frikin' Kool-Aid they want, by the way the distinction between a 'Reagan' ReThug and a 'Bush' ReThug is like parsing different types of stools from say a cancer patient or one suffering from diabetes disagreeable either way, the fact remains that the DLC and the rest of the 'Money Party' Dems are licking their lips at taking over from the idiot Rethugs.

Taking over looting the Treasury...

Taking over consolidating their corporatist agenda...

Blissfully ignoring the MeatGrinder...

Prancing on FAUX News while the country goes down the 'Free Trade' rathole...

Never to return.

Yeah, I posted that clip with Michelle mutterin 'chickenshits'.

Big deal.

The fools and capering clowns the hidden finaciers of the ReichWing allow on stage to distract and annoy the citizenry are not important.

The folks who own 80% of the assets of this nation are.

And they are doin' just fine.

Bush did a great job for them.

What are we gonna do to wipe that smile off their faces?
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by Pericles on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 11:25:53 PM EST

Re: Ready to Abandon Bush? (none / 0)

It sounds to me like they are not only ready to abandon Bush. They seem to be ready to abandon the religous right aswell. Witness Guliani saying (I paraphrase) "leave my family private". Well with that statement right there he has seperated himself from any discussion of "family values" period. He cannot even bring it up. He can no longer use all the religous right talking points. Hell it might even be reason for a secular independent or moderate to vote for him. Let's hope not because of all the other crappy beliefs about how people should be governed that he has.


by Steambomb on Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 09:42:31 AM EST


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