Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fox News

Cross-posted on Daily Kos

Over the past week and a half, many of us have been engaged in a very public conversation with the Nevada Democratic Party leadership on their choice to have Fox News host a Presidential forum in August in Nevada.  3500 of you sent emails to Nevada State Party Chair Tom Collins through Blogpac.  Moveon has a petition, and Robert Greenwald has created a video at FoxAttacks where the petition is hosted to demonstrate the partisan nature of Fox News as an information source.

The argument that we've made is not that the Fox News audience is bad in and of itself.  It's important to talk to the whole public; the election of Howard Dean to DNC Chair was about the 50 state strategy, and no one has pushed that strategy harder than the progressive wing of the party.  And it worked, in 2006, as we elected a whole host of members of Congress that seemed unlikely to win when insiders in DC were drawing up their prognostications for yet another swing state strategy.   No, the problem that we have is that allowing Fox News to singlehandedly host the debate gives that channel the legitimacy of claiming to be a real news source.  If the Democratic Party places its highest and most valuable political debate - that over our nominee to the Presidency - on Fox News, we are giving a Republican partisan news outlet the ability to argue that they are not biased.  We force thousands of diehard Democrats to watch a Republican propaganda outlet, and allow Fox News to spin and impute meaning to the debate.  This is a serious problem.

The reaction to our reasonable request has unfortunately not been what we had hoped.  Harry Reid has basically stayed silent, and as one of the most powerful Democrats in the country, and certainly the most powerful in Nevada, he has a part in this decision.  It's hard to believe that he would not take some interest in a Presidential forum in his state.  After a few days, several Nevada union leaders, including Danny Thompson of the Nevada AFL-CIO, D. Taylor of the Culinary Union, and Rusty McAllister of the Firefighters, backed the choice of Fox News by Tom Collins of the Nevada State Democratic Party, arguing that Democrats need to reach out to a diverse audience segment.  Of course, Fox News makes regular and dishonest arguments against the minimum wage, for corporate abuses, and for privatizing Social Security.  Prominent Fox News figures use misleading statistics to bolster the case for right-wing economics, and we can be sure that Fox News is very willing to spread lies about stronger labor law protections.

The reaction was not uniformly negative.  Michael Zahara, a Clark County member of the Nevada State Democratic Party's Executive Board, bravely and publicly argued that this decision was a poor one, and more to the point, was made in a veil of secrecy.  

In the case of the decision to include FOX News in our partisan pre-caucus debate this August, apparently those who made this decision forgot who and what FOX News is and who and what our opponents are. This was not a NV Dems decision, this was a unilateral move without the consultation of the Executive Board of the Democratic Party of the State of Nevada, nor the executive boards of the other sponsor states.

He went on to point out that grassroots Nevada Democrats are unhappy with this decision:

The overwhelming majority of our State Central Committee and our voters have a big problem with this decision. My email box is filled with the opinions of those who elected me to my position on the Board and others. 75% are in favor of my views on this matter.

Despite various leaders backing the decision with lukewarm calls for diversity, it looks like the majority of Nevada Democrats paying attention to this discussion do not like Fox News's role in the Presidential forum.

Now to be clear, many of us who disagreed with the Nevada Democratic Party's choice of Fox News are not averse to having Fox News broadcast the debate.  We simply object to having Fox News legitimized as a neutral news source by being the sole host of the debate.  As such, some of our allies asked the Nevada Democratic Party if they would allow Air America to co-host the debate and have equal panelists to balance Fox News and their partisan approach to politics.  This would have accommodated their desire to reach conservatives while also making it clear that Fox is not a neutral news outlet.  It would further increase the diversity of the viewership of the debate.  I believe that we're open to other arrangements as well, anything that does not legitimize Fox News as a neutral news outlet.

The Nevada State Democratic Party rejected these requests.  Tom Collins, who is the Chair of the Party, apparently does not think that Fox News's partisan agenda is enough to warrant a reexamination of the debate arrangement, or even a real conversation about how the party handles the Presidential contest.  In fact, it's impossible to find out who made the decision to let Fox News host the debate.  As Michael Zahara said:  

Regrettably, no one is owning up to this mistake and by all appearances,it was FOX that came with their Trojan Horse to those who made this decision. We simply don't know what the truth is at this point, and likely never will.

I'm less concerned with who is responsible and more interested in immediately relieving FOXNEWS of their participation in our partisan event and protecting our candidates and Caucus...

As I said before, none of us on the Executive Board of the NSDP, or the other states were in the loop on this. The outgoing Chair may have felt that he had the authority to act unilaterally, but many of us believe he should have consulted us. Trust that this decision very likely wouldn't have passed a vote of our E-Board, and would not have garnered the support of our State Central Committee here in Nevada.

Clearly something is not right in how this decision was made.  Nevada Democrats do not support it, the Executive Board never voted on it, and I doubt that many who mouthed support for this decision were fully briefed on what this decision meant.

What is needed right now in Nevada is the kind of leadership shown by Democrats like Michael Zahara.  Senator Reid, the most powerful official in Nevada and a key leader in the national Democratic Party, is either part of these decisions or could substantively accommodate our legitimate concerns.  At this point, he's simply being silent and evasive, just like the Nevada Democratic Party (this despite Fox News's constant and baseless attacks on his patriotism and character).

Please call Reid's offices and ask him to not legitimize Fox News as a neutral news outlet.  If you are not in Nevada, use this number: 202-224-3542 / Fax: 202-224-7327

If you live in Nevada, use this number, which is restricted to 775 and 702 area codes: 1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343)

It's time to let Senator Reid know that we want him to act like a good Democrat and ensure that the candidate forum in August treats the Democratic Party and our Democratic leaders vying for the Presidency with the respect that they deserve.  Treating Fox News as a neutral news outlet by letting them solely host this debate does not do that.

And feel free to leave an account of your conversation in the comment thread.



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Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

Is it possible that corporate America is infiltrating our ranks with their agents.   Oh that's right, they already have with the DLC.


by syvanen on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 04:26:44 PM EST

SPonsor our own debate (3.00 / 1)

Netroots should sponsor its own debate on the same night.

Get commitments from at least two (start with Obama(!)) of the big 4 (Obama, Hillary, Edwards, Richardson) on the sly-- then shop it to another network (Olbermann?)

Round up a credible moderator (Bill Moyers,etc.) who understands Dem politics and emberass fox.


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by jgkojak on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 04:32:52 PM EST

Re: SPonsor our own debate (3.00 / 1)

Agreed.

None of the candidates are under any legal obligation to show up to this Fox debate.

I suspect that any local channel would appreciate the attention that a national debate would bring.  And it can't be hard to find an auditorium. Again, I'd assume any local college would appreciate the attention.

Rather than petitioning Reid to find a way to "fix" the Fox debate with Air America co-sponsorship or some other kluge, we could instead petition the candidates to just skip the Fox debate and attend an alternate debate.

Or has the die now been cast in such a way that having an alternate debate would be spun as "Democrats in disarray" or some such nonsense?

Is that what we are afraid, spin?

But then bad spin is the whole problem with Fox hosting the debate, isn't it?

Our position should simply be: "Fox's partisanship makes them unfit to host. Period."  

Boycott.


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by Rob in Vermont on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 06:46:17 PM EST
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Re: SPonsor our own debate (none / 0)

Perhaps there is more to the relationship between Murdoch and Clinton here.  Perhaps the trade-off for his hosting a fundraiser for her was her commitment to have the debate hosted on FOX.

Just a thought.


by CarrieCann on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 08:24:26 PM EST
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I made the call (none / 0)

 I got right through, no problem. The guy who answered was aware of the situation but poker faced as to Reids reaction or position on the issue. He was polite but sounded bored and promised to pass my protestations along.


by eddieb on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 04:49:00 PM EST

Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

I called in.  The lady was very nice and said she was getting lots of calls.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 04:59:03 PM EST

Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

Who is sponsoring this debate?

FOX by themselves? If so, no candidate should feel the need to attend.

If not the Nevada State Democratic Party, then who, other than the FOX network, is the sponsor? Not Harry Reid. Not me. Who?

Seems part of the problem protesting this or asking for it to be changed is that no one takes responsibility for the decision. No one to offend by not showing up?


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by demondeac on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 05:00:31 PM EST

Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

Believe me if Harry Reid really wants this Debate NOT to happen it won't. No matter who sponsors it. By the way Faux is sponsoring it.


by eddieb on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 05:28:12 PM EST
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Here's my action item: support Michael Zahara (none / 0)

Zahara is currently the lone voice of discent among top Nevada Democrats and a beacon in a sea of "yeah, Fox News sucks, but..." statements by other Nevada Democrats.

Now, here's my action item of today: Go over to his post on Nevada Today and leave a comment of support for Michael.

Michael's last comment to his post on Nevada Today focused on the "Western Majority Project" which co-sponsors the debate:


We are as much in the dark about the Western Majority Project as the rest of the nation.

Many here are also very concerned about the secrecy and seemingly 'back room' aspects of the WMP, and that too will change soon.  

Myself and others will work toward the bright sunshine of openness and disclosure for any further Nevada Caucus related matters.

I think the ominous WMP should be our next focus as well.

More on everything surrounding the Nevada Caucus at my blog: Nevada Caucus 2008


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by jedinecny on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 05:22:24 PM EST

Re: Action Item (3.00 / 1)

Rather than petitioning Reid to find a way to "fix" the Fox debate with Air America co-sponsorship or some other kluge, we could instead petition the candidates to just skip the Fox debate and attend an alternate debate.

Seems part of the problem protesting this or asking for it to be changed is that no one takes responsibility for the decision. No one to offend by not showing up?

Why should we put the onus on the candidates to extract themselves from this mess? The screwup was with the Nevada Democratic Party and Harry Reid. There's still plenty of time to set this right, and we should focus our activism on them right now.
In addition to taking on the Nevada dems and Harry Reid, we should make it very clear that we will push hard to ensure that Nevada loses its "first among equals" early primary position in the West if they can't/won't take proper care with our national candidates. We should be encouraging other Western state dems to be ready to lobby to be moved in front of Nevada because they will have alot of support from the netroots/grassroots and other Democratic activists.
Additionally, it would be great if we could recruit a candidate from the "Democratic wing of the Democratic party" to go up against Reid for leadership of the Senate after the '08 elections.


by johnalive on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 07:07:37 PM EST

Re: Action Item (none / 0)

The candidates may agree that skipping a Fox-hosted debate is in their best interests.  Or they may disagree - that's certainly their prerogative.  In either case, simply making a constructive suggestion that they skip the Fox debate is not placing "an onus" on them.


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by Rob in Vermont on Mon Mar 05, 2007 at 11:34:44 PM EST
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Re: Action Item (none / 0)

I think what you suggested is a good idea to guide our actions later this spring or summer if Reid and the Nevada dems prove intransigent about removing Fox.
I read one Nevada party leader suggesting that there was little need for them to take action because the candidates would probably drop out of the debate, and I felt like that was kicking the can down the road. It's antagonizing to me that they would pass responsibility to Edwards, Obama, et al. I'm not going to blame the candidates for this after it's over, I'm going to blame Nevada democrats and Reid.
There is much in politics right now that I find disagreeable, but involving Fox in the Democratic debates like this has genuinely pissed me off. What feels like expressing my passion about the issue may come off as overwrought to you. But I'm not going to let up on this. The stupidity of bringing Democrats and interested Independents to hear Fox News dis our candidates really pisses me off, and it's within the Nevada party's power to easily fix this by just saying "no" to Fox.
by johnalive on Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 07:40:19 AM EST
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Re: Action Item (none / 0)

No, doesn't seem overwrought. I'm just thinking the candidates have no obligation to go; whereas (perhaps) the organizers of the event may be under some sort of legal obligation to Fox not to dismiss them as hosts.


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 08:40:14 AM EST
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Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

Since Reid chooses to ignore our suggestions concerning legitimizing Fox (news?), what would be involved in starting a petition to move the debate   to ANOTHER STATE?  It seems even the committee in charge had little to do with the Fox decison. Lets go back to the beginning.


by didler on Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 10:10:59 AM EST

Re: Action Item: Senator Reid, Don't Legitimize Fo (none / 0)

Will call shortly, my points will be:
  1. I admire Sen. Reid's responses to Bush war mongering, especially in the heat of the recent congressional elections.
  2. I'll mention I was from Reno and have been watching Ried since he lost to Laxalt in '74 by 600 votes.
  3. That left an impression on me that grass roots and voter turnout have always been the heart of politcs.
  4. But Fox considers politics a spectator sport manipulated for its effects on ratings, exactly the opposite of grassroots.
  5. Fox needs legitimacy way more than Dem candidates need exposure to Bill O'Reilly's audience...noone tunes in to Fox to change their mind about issues.
  6. Dismayed the Senator giving aid to a big cog in the rightwing media machine
  7. That network has stretched scant facts and sources to tar the Senator.
  8. That network broadcast images of Mark Foley labled as a Democrat.

by greensmile on Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 01:33:48 PM EST


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