People make the campaign

Here's something original from the Obama campaign, and it's smart too. Instead of showcasing the financial amount raised, they are showcasing the number of people that have contributed to the campaign. I went back to put the number in perspective, by comparing it with Dean's 2003 numbers. And in comparison with Dean's 1st quarter results, the number is absolutely astounding.

In 2003, Howard Dean's 1st quarter contributions came from more than 12,000 individual donors. Obama's at over 70,000 contributors. I don't think most people would see that as a realistic comparison though, as Dean's campaign was still a blip on the radar until March of '03, so I went and looked at Dean's second quarter of 2003. Dean had over 73,000 contributors, so roughly about the same as Obama, so we can use this for the sake of comparison.

I don't know what the average contribution of Barack Obama's campaign is for the first quarter. For Dean, those 73,000 contributors averaged about little less than $100 overall, for a total raised of $7.6M. Just "a tiny percentage" of the donors had maxed out. I think we'll see a much higher average donation for Obama among those 71,000+ contributors, probably around $300 per, for over $20M raised in the first quarter.

For Dean, a little less than half of all his contributions came through the internet in the first quarter of 2003, and that number stayed about constant throughout the year, with the average online contribution more or less around $70 dollars from the first quarter and onward, as well. It's hard to guess what Obama's numbers are, or if they will differ from Dean's in this regard.

Of course, Obama has done all this in the first quarter of 2007 and has 9 months of the year waiting out front of us. By July of 2003, the number of Dean contributors was at 80,000. Where did Dean wind up, in terms of the number of contributors in 2003? I don't recall (anyone know?? [CB thinks around 300,000]). I do recall in late 2003, when the campaign began to talk about a "$100 revolution" to compete with Bush in the general election, which 2 million Americans contributing. That was a bit getting ahead, as the campaign found out soon enough.

What Obama is doing with this metric that's smart is setting it up as a parallel process number to the total amount raised in the quarter. They know that Clinton is likely to raise a lot more money than Obama will, perhaps $40 Million? So even if Obama gets half that, he has the number of contributors to point toward as a people-powered marker in the process. I'll predict that Obama's numbers will not reflect, as a percentage, as strong of an internet-powered operation is as was Dean's campaign. That's because Obama's also got breadth across a wide spectrum in the Democratic party fundraising establishment that, either due to his own appeal, or those that don't want to back Clinton for the nomination, are backing Obama with maxed out donations. The internet is not central to Obama's fundraising candidacy, but it does provide a means for a wider number of people to embrace his campaign than those that do for any of the other candidates at this point.

Update [2007-3-29 13:49:7 by Jerome Armstrong]:
The Edwards campaign comes out with an email of their online ActBlue totals, but I don't think this includes all of the online Edwards contributions-- will need to look into it more.



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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

It is smart, but not nearly as smart as if they would have done it via actblue.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:10:37 AM EST

Question... (none / 0)

Why would it be better through ActBlue as opposed to directly through the campaign website?

Serious question. Maybe I don't fully understand ActBlue the way I thought I did.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:25:13 AM EST
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Re: Question... (none / 0)

1. Transparency allows the press to write cool articles like the AP article on Edwards that will be in every paper in the country tomorrow

2. Raising in closed networks is selfish when by using ActBlue he could teach his supporters how to raise and bundle for all the other races


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:31:10 AM EST
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Re: Question... (none / 0)

Yeah, the article on Edwards is great. But, fundraising is all about lowered expectations and reaching past them. If Obama comes in with $10-20M raised online, that's a heck of a lot more than the $1.7M Edwards will have raised and the $2M Clinton will have raised. Plus, Obama has easily raised at least $15M more from his fundraisers. That's a lot of moola. And his numbers will then provide the surge narrative. It's sort of like playing Gin where you have a couple of really great tricks to lay down, but you hold off until the right moment so you can overwhelm your opponents. It's called strategy and should not be construed as being selfish or anything else. Smart? Yes. Selfish? No.


by blackmahn on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:12:48 AM EST
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Re: Question... (none / 0)

I don't see anything smart about it. It may not be selfish, it may just be cowardice, but it isn't smart. Not for Obama, not for the Democratic Party.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:16:44 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

But as a candidate, don't you want people to go to your website, especially if you're a person who hasn't been on the national scene long, so that they can learn more about you and your positions?

The great thing about Act Blue is the ease with which you can contribute, and it's the way I donated to Webb last year. But I must confess that I never once visited Webb's campaign site to find out about his biography, where he stood on the issues (it was enough that he was running against the odious Allen), or to network with other Webb supporters.

As Jerome Armstrong has pointed out in his post, Obama is more interested in building up the infrastructure of donor support that will carry him over the next 3 quarters, not just in the dollar amounts (although those are important too, obviously), and the best way to achieve that is by getting the donor to identify heavily with the candidate through the materials and interaction on the website.


by gin pahit on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:39:07 AM EST
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strongly disagree (none / 0)

Actblue can still be easily embedded in a website (see Edwards).

By using actblue, he would have a scalable model that would also be scalable for Democrats nationwide. And he could be easily getting surge articles like the one I linked to above because of the transparency dynamic.

I understand why a win-inspite-of-Democrats candidate like Hillary wouldn't use actblue, but I think it not only doesn't make sense but is counterproductive for Obama to selfishly re-invent the wheel.


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:50:50 AM EST
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Re: strongly disagree (none / 0)

The big downer with ActBlue from a campaign perspective is they hold onto the donor emails and the campaign has to use snail mail to contact their small donors.

That's murder when the average online donor contributes again every quarter IF ASKED. ActBlue inserts itself as a middle man and prevents the campaigns from building a closer relationship with their donors.

Don't get me wrong, I love ActBlue, I'm just saying there's other factors that campaigns have to consider.


by Texas Nate on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 07:44:25 AM EST
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Re: strongly disagree (none / 0)

The big downer with ActBlue from a campaign perspective is they hold onto the donor emails and the campaign has to use snail mail to contact their small donors.

I don't think that's right.  Blogpac is able to get our donor emails from Actblue.


by Matt Stoller on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 09:58:35 AM EST
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Re: strongly disagree (none / 0)

When you donate thru ActBlue, you'll find out that's not true - I get emails all the time from candidates I supported through AB.


by lapis on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:30:35 PM EST
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Re: strongly disagree (none / 0)

fyi -- and it's the only time I've been in contact with some of those candidates (i.e., I did not register on their individual sites)


by lapis on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:31:12 PM EST
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Edwards not using ActBlue on his website. (none / 0)

Not for awhile now I don't believe.  I think many of the emails take you to Actblue, but the JRE giving page doesn't seem to be ActBlue related.

Which also means that the assumptions that ActBlue tells the whole story are wrong.


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 04:36:26 PM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

When donating my small amounts to campaigns outside of my state, I used the ActBlue links to bookmark the websites of candidates like Webb, Tester and Harold Ford. After compiling their links and a few others, I regularly visited to boost their readership, and to keep informed. It's made easy by means of ActBlue's layout, one only needs to have free time to spend on it.


by Books Alive on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 09:40:02 AM EST
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Uh huh... (none / 0)

Now that's what I'm talkin' about...

People-powered doesn't have to be on the 'net. But, rest assured, netroots participation represents a very large number of contributors.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:23 AM EST

I think Dean was around 300,000 donors at the end (none / 0)

But that is just going form memory. I could be wrong.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:36:25 AM EST

Re: I think Dean was around 300,000 donors at (none / 0)

It's gotta be somewhere in that ballpark.  He raised some $50 million, and if the average donation was $100, that'd make 500,000 donations.  Of course many are repeats.


Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:18:01 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

I'm interested in seeing the money train once the end of the month comes.


by rikyrah on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:43:08 AM EST

So, are you guys backing Obama? (none / 0)

I mean, sure, no one's desperate to get married to any candidate this cycle... but, when is the cut-off for pragmatism?  I'd love to hold out hope for a Gore candidacy, but that's just a pipe dream.

I can't think it can be later than August if anyone wants to have a valid influence, right?  I mean, by October both Obama and Clinton are going to be through with humoring wafflers.

Hell, unless the GOP goes crazy and somehow nominates an antiwar candidate -- that sounds only slightly more plausible than the Libertarian Party nominating an anti-pot Stalinist -- the presidential race is going to be over in February 2008.  

If I were either Obama or Hillary, I'd want firm commitments in hand by the end of summer, or else latecomers might as well wait eight years to joke about working in a Democratic administration.


by jcjcjc on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:02:13 AM EST

Re: So, are you guys backing Obama? (none / 0)

Uh, I don't think Jerome or anyone here is looking for a job.

Many voters aren't going to decide until January or even February. There's nothing wrong with a wait-and-see attitude.


Further Reading
by Dave Sund on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:31:55 AM EST
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Re: So, are you guys backing Obama? (none / 0)

I just think they are doing their job by printing stories and encouraging discussion and action.


by yitbos96bb on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 09:01:49 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

I've donated to Obama through his site and found it easy and tour around the place.  check out different things on his site and pictures from his campaign rallys.
I feel more comfortable going thru his site than if I went thru another site to donate as I feel I am like the big shot donors and giving to his campaign directly.  But, that is just me.
by vwcat on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:06:42 AM EST

Re: People make the campaign (3.00 / 2)

I have the 9th highest number of donations to the Edwards campaign on ActBlue, which I kind find of funny.  I'm in the top 10, baby. lol


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:32:16 AM EST

Given your strong advocacy... (none / 0)

here and on DKos...I can't say I'm that surprised.  =)

Props for your passion and commitment...


by rashomon on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:41:18 AM EST
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Re: Given your strong advocacy... (none / 0)

Hehehe.... I don't post on Kos!  Haven't ever.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:18:27 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

Props, if I decide to donate to Edwards, I'll use your page.

However, if anyone else is thinking like me, don't you think a link might be helpful?


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:51:31 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

Yeah, that would probably be smart...

http://www.actblue.com/page/voxpopuli

Please, if you've been thinking about donating to a candidate, consider donating to Edwards.  Even $10.00 helps.

The first candidate I donated to was Howard Dean, and my first donation was a $10.00 donation.  I followed that up quickly with several more whenever the bats went up.

http://www.actblue.com/page/voxpopuli

Please help us stay relevent.  Even if John doesn't win, his message is important.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:17:21 AM EST
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I'm confused. (none / 0)


John Edwards  6    $194.24    $1,766,812.18    

That's from SIX donors? Who were they ? Lawyers?

;p


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 06:22:38 AM EST
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Re: I'm confused. (none / 0)

Vox's six donors have given $194.24, and the second total is for all the donations to Edwards through ActBlue.  The average donation to Edwards on ActBlue has been very close to $100 for a long time, but it has just dipped to under $96, indicating a number of recent donations under $100.  (There were Edwards house parties last night which might have stimulated a bunch of smaller gifts.)

The AP story appeared to claim that the $1.7M on ActBlue was Edwards' entire on-line fundraising.  I don't think that this is true (KT from ActBlue said as much recently in a blog comment) but does anyone know for sure?  I suppose that by 15 April we will get some hard numbers.


by DaveMB on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 08:23:40 AM EST
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Defintely some contributions outside of Actblue (none / 0)

A lot of the emails sent out asking for donations have linked to pages on the website seperate from the main donation page that apparently arent connected to Actblue. Like the coulter cash one, which raised $300k apparently, but wasn't reflected in ActBlue totals.

Also the individual fundraising sites that the Edwards sites allows people to make, I don't think those are reflected in ActBlue totals either.


by okamichan13 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:33:54 PM EST
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Gave last night (3.00 / 1)

gave $100 last night, and really happy about it, though its hard to part with. I hope his supporters all come out strong.


by okamichan13 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:36:12 PM EST
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Ha! (none / 0)

I've got the fourth most donors, but not much in money.

http://www.actblue.com/page/pizzaforprog ressives


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 04:38:48 PM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

Congrats!


by yitbos96bb on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 09:02:46 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

Vox, you made a top ten.  very good.  I wish I could donate a large amt. of money but, I am proud of my little bit I've done.


by vwcat on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:29:54 AM EST

Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

That's my thing, I can't afford to give a large amount of money, either.  If I could I would max out.  But the great thing about ActBlue is it lets you get your inner-circle involved, too, so that you can "give" a much larger donation than you might otherwise be able to.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:36:11 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

It would be nice to write those $2300 checks... I would give to both Obama and Edwards if I had the money... anything to keep Hilldog from the nom (did anyone see South Park last night... that was some funny stuff... Snuke...)


by yitbos96bb on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 09:06:24 AM EST
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Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

I recieved a phone call yesterday evening at around 7:30 pm. The caller identified herself as being with the Obama Campaign. She was very professional and courteous. She thanked me for my last donation and even stated the amout. Then she began telling me about this campaign and how we needed to reach the goal. I told her I actually donated as soon as it was posted and I also told her to keep up the good work and she said "Thank You". I was excited. She was excited. It was great.

:)


"I don't believe in this can't do, won't do, won't even try style of politics. Yes We Can!" ~ Barack Obama
by ObamaEdwards2008 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 06:14:45 AM EST

With the 1st quarter so huge (none / 0)

it makes the 2nd quarter even more important it seems. It will be incredibly hard it seems with the huge 1st quarter results for probably everyone to keep up that kind of fundraising.

I think the 2nd quarter will be more important as an indicator to show how a campaign is doing.


by okamichan13 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 07:13:26 AM EST

Re: With the 1st quarter so huge (none / 0)

Completely agree. The second quarter totals will show if the campaigns have done a good job in building relationships with a broad base of smaller donors. I think Edwards and Obama won't have problems with this. It'll be really interesting, though, to see what Hillary's numbers will be for the coming quarter, because it might give a clue as to how solid, or not, her support in fact is.


by gin pahit on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 11:06:34 AM EST
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Dean's 2nd Quarter (none / 0)

So basically Obama is surpassing the number of contributors in Dean's second quarter even after having only officially been in the race since Feb. 10th?  That's only a month and a half.  That's pretty amazing.
By the way, it looks like we're going to pass up Obama's goal of 75,000 for March 31st even by tonight.  Can we make 80?
One Million Strong --- Join up
by psericks on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 02:24:19 PM EST

Re: People make the campaign (none / 0)

The Obama Blog mentions this post... very cool


by yitbos96bb on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 06:39:34 PM EST

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by limo910 on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:09:32 AM EST


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