Moveon, Iraq, and 2008, Oh My

Moveon is going to start dipping its toe in Presidential waters.

Starting today, Democratic presidential hopefuls have a new contest to vie for: the endorsement of MoveOn.org. The influential progressive interest group, which boosts of having 3.2 million members, plans to hold three "virtual town hall" meetings with the candidates starting next month. At the first, on April 10, the candidates will answer questions from MoveOn members about Iraq; sessions later this year will focus on health care and energy policy.

"The idea is not to have a gotcha moment, but there will be tough questions they'll have to answer," says Eli Pariser, executive director of MoveOn's political action committee. "Hopefully, it will help push the policy towards the direction we want to see."

All of the presidential candidates -- Republicans and Democrats -- are eligible to participate, but it's not clear if any Republicans will actually snag an invitation. MoveOn members will vote on which candidates should be allowed to take part in the 90-minute event and only those who get the nod from at least 10% of respondents will be invited.

If you are a Moveon member (and that means giving them your email address), you can vote on who you think should get an invitation, submit questions, and ultimately vote on some sort of quasi-endorsement or statement of approval.

This is a big deal, because it's the first time that various political candidates are going to hear from activists on Iraq, and be held accountable for their positions.  It's important at this point for people knowledgable in the issue to explore the various candidate plans and track records, and begin to equip activists with useful questions.

The townhall takes place on April 10.



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what a horrible idea (none / 0)


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:29:39 AM EST

Re: what a horrible idea (none / 0)

Why?


by Matt Stoller on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:41:58 AM EST
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Re: what a horrible idea (none / 0)

first I'm unclear whether this is a primary endorsement or general election...

If it's for the general election and no republicans are invited the endorsement becomes a joke and the democratic nominee will be supported by moveon by why "officialize" it - there's no benefit .

If it's for the primary than I'd have to think about it some more.


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:46:37 AM EST
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Re: what a horrible idea (none / 0)

It's not an endorsement, it's an issue-based townhall.  


by Matt Stoller on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:52:05 AM EST
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what does this mean (none / 0)

MoveOn members will vote after the event on which candidate they liked the best and that candidate will be the beneficiary of a special online fund-raising drive. The top prize -- a possible MoveOn endorsement -- won't come until after the town hall meetings are complete, Pariser says.

I can't tell enough  from the WSJ article what they're thinking of doing


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:58:06 AM EST
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Re: what a horrible idea (none / 0)

These events will eventually lead up to a primary endorsement.  Last time around, they required a 50% threshold, which Dean fell just short of reaching, and thus, they stayed neutral in the primary.  Whether they will require a similar threshold this time around, I don't know (but if I had to guess, I would think yes).

If they do place a threshold on any primary endorsement process, there is no way any candidate will get 50% - Edwards and Obama will effectively split the votes with the others getting single digits.

What I want to know: will members get a chance to invite Gore to these town halls?


Netroots for Gore
by NYPopulist on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:02:13 AM EST
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Great, they are an interest group now (none / 0)

in need of pandering to. Awesome.


by mihan on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:42:10 AM EST

Re: Great, they are an interest group now (3.00 / 1)

Yes, millions of people on the internets submitting questions to candidates and then voting on those candidates, how awful!


by Matt Stoller on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:52:50 AM EST
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Re: Great, they are an interest group now (none / 0)

Matt, I like MoveOn. If it were as you say it is...an open forum for regular members to submit questions, then I have no problem with it.

But if the MoveOnPac leadership is to provide an endorsement in a top-down fashion, then I don't think I'd like that.

Its too early to be so pissy, Matt!


by mihan on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:03:09 AM EST
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Re: Great, they are an interest group now (none / 0)

You're the one who started out with annoying slander.


by Matt Stoller on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:51:31 AM EST
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Re: Great, they are an interest group now (none / 0)

annoying slander? Against who? A group I'm a member of?


by mihan on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 06:29:37 PM EST
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MoneOn Leads Yet Again (none / 0)

I think it is a great idea, especially for people who won't get the chance to go to the real "Town Hall" meetings in the early primary states.  If anyone does not want to face tough questions, they have no business running for President.


by howardpark on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:43:41 AM EST

all three big contenders (none / 0)

have already accepted..

so that's not the issue


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:47:35 AM EST
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Yes and vote too! (none / 0)

Those of us who have never once voted in a presidential primary that mattered can vote in the MoveOn primary.

I've liked MoveOn for a long time.  They get people like my parents involved in online politics.  They give people a chance to do something, contact someone, kick in a few buck, even if they don't know a blog from a newsgroup.


by Emma Anne on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 03:10:36 PM EST
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Re: Moveon, Iraq, and 2008, Oh My (none / 0)

Let's see how long it is before Hillary has a "scheduling conflict" that comes up.


by IsThisOverYet on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:45:04 AM EST

Re: Moveon, Iraq, and 2008, Oh My (none / 0)

Great.  Good to know that Kuchinich will at least have some support from somewhere.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:52:47 AM EST

Re: Moveon, Iraq, and 2008, Oh My (none / 0)

MoveOn is not fringe in any way. I remember reading that Bill Clinton and other mainstream Dems are more popular than Russ Feingold among MoveOn members. Don't but the right wing spin here.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 10:55:47 AM EST
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Kucinich finished second in their '04 primary (none / 0)

Dean, who collected the most votes, isn't in the hunt this time, so who knows.   Anything can happen.

But really, my put was really a bit tongue in cheek.

By the way, results of their '04 primary can be found here:

http://www.commondreams.org/news2003/062 7-01.htm


by dpANDREWS on Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:25:37 AM EST
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Re: Moveon, Iraq, and 2008, Oh My (none / 0)

Just tell me how I go about voting OBAMA on here... Please!


by deadpoetlisa1 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:12:42 AM EST


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