The V, the O, and 1984

I have been working hard behind the scenes over the weekend, trying to figure it all out, and am ready to lay it all out there for your minds to churn over this spring Monday morning.

First, you'll recall, on February 23rd, Tom Vilsack dropped out of the Presidential contest. Vilsack, you'll recall, was also the first candidate to enter the Presidential contest-- an omen if I've ever seen one. This is an image captured off of channel 4 in Iowa at the news conference where Vilsack dropped out of the race:


Now, I don't know what strikes you about the scene, but for me, it's that big flaming V, and that got me thinking, cause as I documented on the irretrievable BB archives, I re-watched the movie "1984" again at the beginning of March. That's right-- I'd seen this movie before.



Right. Next thing you know, Vote Different launched on YouTube, is going viral on the political blogs, unraveling a slew of events that would happen in later weeks. Arriving at... today.

Today is Monday, March 26th, and Hillary Clinton will be in Iowa today, where Tom Vilsack will endorse Hillary Clinton for President.

Now, you might all have not figured this out yet, but let me give you a clue: Gary Hart. That's right, you'll recall March 1984, after Hart upset (ok, "beat expectations against") Mondale in Iowa... but you'd be wrong... I think.  And anyway, in the next post of this mini-series, I'll reveal the possible source of hope-- as they say abroad of the symbol:

"Obama 08' emblazoned with a symbol resembling a rising sun."



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Re: Symbol resembling rising sun? (3.00 / 1)

OH, is that what that is?  I had no clue. It looks like a two-flavored life saver candy.  Second, rising sun.   Why does that remind me of Pearl Harbor and Japan.  Could be that I'm not crazy about Obama, therefore, I see him and his in a negative light.  Or, it could be that it should be "sun rise" and not "rising sun".  Oh well, this is your area of expertise.


Follow the money
by dkmich on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 06:44:48 AM EST

Re: Symbol resembling rising sun? (none / 0)

Yes, please wait for the experts to weigh in... Obama invented the skateboard.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 06:50:53 AM EST
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I always think of the (3.00 / 2)

upside down pepsi logo, which has the yin-yang symbol within it.

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McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:12:44 AM EST
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Re: I always think of the (none / 0)

I maintain that it's taken from the Bank of America logo.


by johnny longtorso on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:21:16 AM EST
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Dangers of Logos (3.00 / 1)

I always worry when I see a lot of focus on a corporate campaign logo.

Yeah, the Obama logo makes me think of the Bank America logo.

Obama 08
brought to you by the Bank of Opportunity(tm)

While the logos are not particularly similar, my mind also tends to wander to Motel 6

Obama 08, We'll leave the light on for you.

Then of course there is AT&T:  
Obama is now the new AT&T


by aldon on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 04:39:33 PM EST
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Re: Link (none / 0)

He has quite the fan club.  It is somewhat off putting.  Bet we Deaniacs made others feel that same way.


Follow the money
by dkmich on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:16:04 PM EST
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Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

Ah.. you saw the movie.. but did you buy the album?  I think I was 14, and I bought it on vinyl.  I still have it.  I was a mad crazy Eurythmics fan.  Too bad Vilsack didnt think about making "Sexcrime" his campaign theme song.  

I wondered as I watched John Hurt play big brother in V for Vendetta, how many people realized he played Winston Smith in 1984's 1984.  


John McCain loves war.
by Winston Smith on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 07:01:06 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

Now I know. I watched V for Vendetta on the same weekend earlier this month that I watched 1984. Thanks for the clue.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 07:12:49 AM EST
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Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (3.00 / 1)

Frankly my dear, we have now gone from inside baseball to inside out.


by aiko on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:20:09 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

Also resembles the State seal of Kansas.


by Kuz on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:58:43 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (3.00 / 1)

When it comes to 1984 and the letter "V", I always think of, well, V.


by fwiffo on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:59:08 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (3.00 / 1)

So I'm not the only one ... funny stuff, that show. Aliens with these laser rifles that take forever to charge after one shot, and crazy humans with fully-automatic M-16s.

The "alien invaders" genre has to be the vehicle for more silliness than any other.

Back to the topic, I actually think the logo, in the pure sense of a non-written graphical representation, has to be an area Presidential campaigns will expand in the future. It's such an obvious part of a product roll-out in the consumer world that has, mostly, been ignored in politics. There was the "W" last cycle, but I can't think of any other.

Not sure if that's good, bad, or indifferent, but prepare for all sorts of symbols, swooshes, and stylized letters in the years ahead.


by BriVT on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 09:13:16 AM EST
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Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

Or V for Vendetta


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:16:47 AM EST
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nit-pick (none / 0)

Hart didn't upset Mondale in Iowa; he upset Mondale in New Hampshire.


by blueflorida on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 09:24:34 AM EST

Re: nit-pick (none / 0)

Right...Hart did "better than expected" in Iowa though, but Mondale still won Iowa by a 48.9% to 16.5% margin.  Hart did win New Hampshire outright.


by howardpark on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 11:03:15 AM EST
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I thought it was a donut... (3.00 / 1)

meant to symbolize the delicious exterior with nothing in the middle.
new Obama logo

Bada-bing!!!

Just kidding!!!

C'mon, you were asking for it Jerome.


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:05:30 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

How could you guys forget the Victory Caucus?

With Vilsack it's funny; with these guys it's scary -- and they're totally oblivious to the forehead-slapping irony.


by Tod Westlake on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:23:10 AM EST

I think... (3.00 / 1)

... this proves that Phil De Vellis is actually Thomas Pynchon.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:28:39 AM EST

Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (none / 0)

I think it's actually a sunset.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:49:45 AM EST

the Tammy Sun (none / 0)

sunrise sunset argument.. takes me back to lamont/lieberman


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 11:27:03 AM EST
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Re: The V, the O, and 1984 (3.00 / 1)

Land of the Rising Sun, hmmm? Maybe the O is for Okinawa?


by MassEyesandEars on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:03:22 PM EST

Hyperspace elves (3.00 / 1)

As someone who has offered a blanket-endorsement for experimentation with mind-altering psychadelic drugs in general, and perhaps especially in a political context, this gives me pause.


Me | My Work | Future Majority
by Josh Koenig on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:42:27 PM EST

The Big "O" (none / 0)

I'm going out on the limb here that the Obama symbol is really a reference to a sun rise over an agricultural field.

I know his supporters here will cringe, but it's an all too obvious reference to his symbiotic relationship with ADM and there desire to market ethanol. The sunrise implies there will be an ascendant use of the product and a psychologically reassuring measure.


by risenmessiah on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 05:45:29 PM EST


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