White House Correct, Level of Cooperation Indeed "Unprecedented"

Beginning with his press conference announcing his willingness to allow his political staffers to be interviewed by Congress not under oath, not in public and without a recording or transcript kept, President Bush and his administration have gone to great lengths to describe their level of cooperation with Congress on the matter of the prosecutor purge scandal as "unprecedented." While many have scoffed at such a notion, I think that the White House is actually correct in its assertion -- though not in the way they intended.

Leaving aside the absurdity of the notion that it would be sufficient for an administration -- any administration -- to have its officials speak with Congress under such strict regulations that they would effectively be able to lie to Senators and Representatives without consequence, the Bush administration is in some ways correct in stating that it is breaking new ground by submitting Karl Rove, Harriet Miers and others to such an examination on Capitol Hill. Yet how the precedent that the Bush administration is trying to set is not by allowing Congress to speak with political aides within the White House but rather by barring Congress from soliciting testimony in an open and responsible fashion. As the folks at Think Progress detail in depth, the previous administration allowed its political staffers, including multiple chiefs of staff, to testify in front of Congress on numerous occasions. But for those who would argue that President Clinton's submission to Congress was unprecedented, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter, a presidential historian in his own right, explained last night on Countdown that the precedent for President's allowing their staff to appear before Congress goes back decades.

You know, if you go into executive privilege land, you do take us on a kind of a return trip to Watergate.  Look, this, this idea that somehow presidential aides don`t have to go up and testify under oath on Capitol Hill, this is a very modern and, and, and really Nixonian notion.  If you go back, say, to the 1930s, Franklin Roosevelt`s top aide Louis Howe (ph), there were some irregularities in the New Deal Congress wanted to know about, they hauled him up on Capitol Hill, Democratic Congress, interestingly, they grilled him.  There wasn`t even the slightest suggestion that somehow he shouldn`t be required to testify.

So this is a new idea.  And it, it, it`ll be shades of Watergate if they want to go to court to test it.

And as if it were not enough that President Bush is trying to set a new precedent for secrecy and executive power by shutting down a much-needed congressional investigation into the improper firing of United States Attorneys for partisan political reasons, the administration made a mockery of its offer to Congress even before it made it by sending thousands of documents regarding the prosecutor purge that excluded the key two and a half week period immediately preceding the firings, a stunning instance of disrepect for Congress, the Constitution and rule of law within America. So Alter is right -- we are heading into Watergate territory at this point. And as I speculated earlier today, this could push George W. Bush closer and closer to Herbert Hoover status as a scarlet letter all Republicans will have to wear on their chests for decades to come  (apologies for the mixed historical metaphor).



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Well, Herbert Hoover It Is (3.00 / 1)

The last time the GOP controlled all three branches of government was during Hoover's presidency.  The only reason people have allowed Republicans back into power is they've forgotten how bad it can get.

Now, BushCo has reminded them, "big time," as our nation's number 2 war criminal would say.

Anyone who thinks anything less than a landslide of historical proportions is acceptable in 2008 just isn't paying attention.

Can you spell R-E-A-L-I-G-N-M-E-N-T???

Sure you can!  Twenty more months of G.W. Bush....

Twisting, slowly, slowly in the wind.

Provided we don't let the DLC and the Blue Dogs get in the way.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 02:47:47 AM EST

Hester Prynne gets the worst of this (none / 0)


My husband calls these people 'bush republicans'.
- essentially - evangelical liberal that calls themselves conservative.I just feel sorry for Hester Prynne.. :-)

.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 06:56:57 AM EST

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Just a side note:  the U.S. Attorney for D.C. is Jeffery Taylor.    This is the attorney who would get the case if subpeonas are ordered by Congress.  He served under AG Ashcroft and Gonzales and was appointed as interim U.S. Attorney by Gonzales.
Just as AG Gonzales saved then-Governor Bush from admitting to drunk driving while on jury duty, he may have saved President Bush from any subpeonas from this Congress.  I don't know any more about Mr. Taylor than is noted at the following site. But I think it will be interesting to follow.
Sorry I'm not savvy enough to provide a direct link, but this address will get to information on Attorney Taylor. www.usdoj.gov/usao/dc/US_Attorney
slamn
by sallyLA on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 07:12:34 AM EST

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Tony Snow is absolutely correct - this is unprecedented cooperation, only not in the way he thinks he means it.  There has never been an administration that has been so secretive and obstructive - not even Nixon's.  Keith is going to have John Dean on tonite for a discussion on the ways in this administration resembles the Nixon administration.  Should be a very interesting segment.

There's also a report out this morning in the Washington Post from the lead prosecutor of the tobacco case that says that the "Bushies" in the DOJ interfered with the prosecution of that case.  It seems that the wheels are falling off the bus and those "disgruntled employees" that Schumer talked about last nite are starting to spill their guts.  This is going to be fun!

The link is:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/03/21/AR2007032102713. html?nav=rss_politics


by CarolSoprano on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 07:37:35 AM EST

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in the end, after having given those who missed it the first time the wonderful opportunity of reliving the best (?) years of vietnam and watergate, bush, just like nixon, will find the white house a very, very lonely place ...


i'm glad you asked
by truth hurts on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 07:55:15 AM EST

Worse Before Better (none / 0)

I know that is going to get far messier before ti gets any better and really hope that it isn't going to alleviate any of the pressure of getting the troops home, as that is the number one goal.  However, the last six years of lawlessness has led to this moment, and to pull a Star Wars quote, "I have a bad feeling about this."


Mark
by Mark J. Bowers on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 08:07:27 AM EST

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lord knows you are on safe ground there.


.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 08:21:42 AM EST
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Re: Worse Before Better (none / 0)

I'm not sure I follow you


Mark
by Mark J. Bowers on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 09:07:28 AM EST
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Watergate? How soon do we start the impeachment hearings, because frankly most of us in the blogsphere have been aware of just how bad things were for years.

They need to go down and they need to go down hard. Does anyone here think that if they aren't physically removed from office that things will get any better over the next 21 months? Can you really imagine without the direct pressure of impeachment and subpoena that the executive won't turn into a giant naked kleptocracy? How many years to unravel the current mess, let alone the bullshit that they are working on in dark back rooms now? Once its obvious the entire executive is acting 24/7 in bad faith and that republican leadership and their press faithful will cover for them rather than serve the nation, its thunderdome.

And frankly its the core logic of the Bush/Cheney cult that makes this single elimination politics necessary, they can't let anything else exist that they don't directly control. Which begs the question, why do so many alpha males in the republican party fight to essentially be house servants and field servants for these people? Do elected republicans think of themselves as professional slaves? Does Arlen Spectre brag to his core supporters that he is George Bush Jr's Bitch?

I say bring it on. Total war.

BTW: I really think we should bring back the Abu Ghraib stuff from 2004, that nobody wanted to touch, because it shows just how empty this whole show has been from the start. Just show people what these maniacs really stand for. The public needs to see whats behind the masks these people hide behind.

What's the other option? Do things get better if we do not impeach, investigate, censor and convict? No. Bush/Cheney has worked very hard to prevent any type of diplomacy or negotiation foreign powers are exactly the same to them as domestic opposition, they say so themselves - angrily and publicly; all the time. What they have essential done is declared THEMSELVES enemy combatants to the American public at large. They projected an outrage at those who would undermine the freedoms the American system while all the time doing exactly that from their offices of power.

The republicans started the nation down this road in 1992, when they refused to change in the face of overwhelming loss. Rather than end a failed ideology they became cultists. They have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no possible way to co-exist with them. We've tried for 15 years to find a way, and they have used each attempt at civility as an excuse for "date rape" as Norquist will pleasantly tell anyone who will listen.

Fuck em. Rip em out Root and Branch. Root and Branch.


by smacfarl on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 08:20:43 AM EST

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Grover norquist wants my domain name and he can't have it. :-)


.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 08:30:46 AM EST
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Titles are important (none / 0)

How many times do we read an AP article with a title  that does not go with the body of the article.  The title would imply wrong doings about a Dem leader and when you read the article it clears the Dem leader.

Bloggers are doing the opposite.  A Snarky title in a RSS reader would imply WH was right but for those who do not know about snark then it would seem we are agreeing with WH.

I wish bloggers use to the point titles that a cursory  reader would get the gist.


by jasmine on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 09:00:59 AM EST

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What I want to know ....Why does the President need to invoke executive privilege if there were no conversations with the President?

Hmmmm.


by druidbros on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 09:58:27 AM EST

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Herbert Hoover was never a scarled-letter as far as Republicans were concerned, whatever he may have been as far as the rest of America was concerned. Hoover was a serious candidate for the Republican nomination in 1940 before Republicans settled on Wendell Willkie.

This only goes to prove that no matter how badly a Republican screws up, they always rehabilitate him.

Interestingly enough, Hoover would be considered a liberal Democrat today on many issues:

<blockquote->Against the opposition of Henry Cabot Lodge and other Senate Republicans, Hoover saw to it that the German people received aid, and he extended aid to famine-stricken Bolshevist Russia in 1921. When a critic inquired if he was not thus helping Bolshevism, Hoover retorted, "Twenty million people are starving. Whatever their politics, they shall be fed!"


by Cugel on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 12:35:00 PM EST

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Ah, to clarify my point, I do not mean to say that Hoover was viewed by Republicans as a scarlet letter but rather by the electorate. Even as late as 1948 Harry Truman was handing his Republican adversary, Thomas Dewey, the mantle of Herbert Hoover, warning voters (indeed successfully) that a vote for the Republican was a vote for Hoover's policies that led to the Great Depression.


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by Jonathan Singer on Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 03:44:08 PM EST
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