Obama looking to mobilize activist supporters

I received this email from Obama today.  I know some have said that they can't understand why the Obama campaign hasn't done anything to reach out to its grassroots support.  Some have called his campaign Top-Down.  Frankly, I have always seen his campaign as two seperate ones... There is a top-down campaign that will be run as a traditional style heavy advertising campaign.  But then, as evidenced by the empowering tools of my.barackobama.com, there is also a strong Bottom-Up campaign as well.  Will all the events and meetup that have been scheduled independent of the campaign so far, and garnering HUGE numbers of supporters at the events, the bottom-up grassroots tools have been a success.  

There was still the criticism that Obama was not reaching out and utilizing the grassroots support.  Most of his supporters, myself included, said to be patiend and give it time.  

Well the time is at hand.  March 31 marks his community kickoff.  Below is the email I received today.  Obama has been building his army of supporters and now is ready to start mobilizing them.  The excitement is building in me now just typing this as I am sure it is for many Obama supporters.  Lets work to build real change in our government.

If you are an Obama supporter and have not yet joined, please go to my.barackobama.org and sign up today!

Dear XXXX,

I learned years ago, as a community organizer on Chicago's South Side, that progress and change in our country rarely comes from the top down.

It's people working at the grassroots, involving their coworkers, neighbors and friends, who have the power to prod the policy-makers to change course. Whether it's ending this war or getting people health care or lifting people out of poverty, the movement for change begins with you.

It's one thing to understand that in theory. It's another to sit in a room full of motivated people, make a plan, and then witness the effects of hard work. To win, this campaign will need to build a movement, and that doesn't happen spontaneously. It happens because you roll up your sleeves and get to work.

So we're getting organized -- locally and nationally.

On March 31st, I'd like you to host a Community Kickoff event. Whether your local group has already been meeting or this will be the first time supporters will meet in person, this kickoff event is the next step in expanding your reach.

I'll be in a town in Iowa the same day working to build our support there. We'll have a live video stream and a conference call from this Iowa event starting at 3 PM Central time so that you can see first hand how we're building our community of support in this crucial first contest.

We've put together the materials and online tools you'll need to make it happen. Will you start planning a Community Kickoff event right now?

http://action.barackobama.com/hopeaction change

March 31st is just the beginning.

The main component of the agenda for every local group will be kicking off a week of action to spread the word and build the movement in that community.

The March 31st national organizing meetings will be the launching pad for local action the following week. Some groups will plan one action, while others will plan dozens of events like canvassing or community service.

The theme for these events is "Hope, Action, Change." That sequence can transform a nation. The link between hope and change is action. So bring together your friends, family, and neighbors on Saturday, March 31, in a national day of community gatherings to kick off a week of localized action:

http://action.barackobama.com/hopeaction change

To build on the hope for a better future that we all share, we have to take responsibility for our own communities. I want to see you and people across America come together in living rooms to plan what you can do to grow this campaign.

If you're not ready to host an event but want to attend one in your area, search for events near you here:

http://action.barackobama.com/hopeaction change

This campaign has already sparked an unprecedented wave of organizing across the country. But this election is a long way off.

It's up to you to harness that energy in your community and build it into an organization that will last.

Together we have an incredible opportunity to bring politics back to our neighborhoods and communities, where people genuinely care about our common future and believe that we have the power to shape the kind of society in which we live.

Let's get started.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama

P.S. -- In the last few days over 9,000 people like you participated in our new donor drive, in which any supporter could offer to match someone's first donation to the campaign. Each one had the opportunity to share a personal note with the person who matched their contribution, and across the country stories were shared and new connections were made. You can still participate in the program here: http://action.barackobama.com/match



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Re: Obama looking to mobilize activist supporters (none / 0)

I really want Matt Stoller to read this one... He, rightly so, was asking about Obama reaching out and organizing his grassroots support.  I am curious if this is what he had in mind or if he was looking for something else.


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:09:00 AM EST

this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

http://blog.johnedwards.com/onecorps


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:46:37 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (1.00 / 1)

That's because Obama has a history of following strong leaders.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:08:50 AM EST
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Strong Leader = Howard Dean's model (none / 0)

It does makes sense since Joe Rospars was Dean's former internet architect and is now Obama's.

It is great that Edwards is now following Dean's lead too.  


by Yoshimi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 10:21:58 AM EST
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Re: Strong Leader = Howard Dean's model (3.00 / 1)

Edwards and Obama are both following Dean's model.  
Each has folks on board from the Dean campaign.

Reading these battling comments, I wonder yet again if the die hard Obama and Edwards supporters would do better to support each other, and to keep an open mind.  Seems to me the grassroots is getting divided in numbers and in spirit between these two candidates.  Which leaves Hillary room to solidify the rest of the base.  As grassroots voters in Iowa and New Hampshire get closer to caucus/primaries, they would do well to consider who to support en mass and hopefully most of the grassroots will choose to throw most of their weight behind either Edwards or Obama, rather than splitting the votes between the two.

I hope its Edwards, but will happy to throw my vote in the with the majority if its Obama the grassroots gets behind.  Both are far superior to Hillary!


by melg on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:06:15 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

That was uncalled for and unprovoked.  Do you get off on acting like that.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:04:32 AM EST
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Yes he does. (none / 0)

It is all he has.  Poor fella.


by Yoshimi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:08:54 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

Uncalled for and unprovoked is when a hypersensitive Obama zealot goes around troll-rating people because they've said something disagreeable about your candidate (which you seem to do all the time).

Obama is more a follower than a leader.  That is an opinion.  It is based on several factors; including his reluctance to back out of the Faux debate (even though he already skipped a union forum), developing a web tool much like OneCorps, and others.

How about you give me examples of the leadership Obama has provided.  The list will be shorter I'm sure.  And when you mention "opposition to the Iraq War," how about you clarify how he can at the same time push hard for Joe Lieberman's renomination as a Democrat last year.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:25:01 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

I troll rated you because you act like an Asshole.  I didn't troll rate Peter or Tarheel because they acted like human beings.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:30:07 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

1) Re: I didn't know I could predict the future... [0.00], by rbrianj, Rated: 0
Posted on 03/13/2007 05:47:50 AM EST
Rated on 03/13/2007 11:27:36 AM EST

2) Re: Obama Can Survive The Freakshow! [0.00], by razetheladder, Rated: 0
Posted on 03/13/2007 02:41:44 AM EST
Rated on 03/13/2007 11:27:36 AM EST

3) Re: Obama Can Survive The Freakshow! [0.00], by razetheladder, Rated: 0
Posted on 03/12/2007 02:05:52 PM EST
Rated on 03/13/2007 11:27:36 AM EST

4) Re: this reminds me of.. [1.50], by Vox Populi, Rated: 0
Posted on 03/13/2007 09:08:50 AM EST
Rated on 03/13/2007 11:03:39 AM EST

7) Re: Sharpton-Obama: What does Lieberman mean? [2.33], by Vox Populi, Rated: 1
Posted on 03/12/2007 09:02:30 PM EST
Rated on 03/13/2007 02:25:18 AM EST

8) Re: John Edwards Picks Up Congressional Support [2.50], by littafi, Rated: 1
Posted on 03/09/2007 04:55:51 PM EST
Rated on 03/10/2007 01:49:17 PM EST

9) I Don't Care What My Congressman Says [0.50], by rapallos, Rated: 1
Posted on 03/09/2007 04:24:32 PM EST
Rated on 03/10/2007 01:49:17 PM EST

10) You act like it is limited to the GOP [1.50], by Classical Liberal, Rated: 1
Posted on 03/09/2007 07:34:56 AM EST
Rated on 03/09/2007 01:11:10 PM EST

14) Re: The Obama and Edwards Myth [0.00], by bruh21, Rated: 0
Posted on 03/08/2007 10:12:50 PM EST
Rated on 03/08/2007 11:42:02 PM EST

17) Re: New Hampshire Poll [1.00], by lambros, Rated: 1
Posted on 03/06/2007 09:44:22 PM EST
Rated on 03/06/2007 10:30:39 PM EST

The point of these is: were ALL these posters you gave "0" or "1" 'assholes,' or did you simply disagree with them at some level.  Mind you these aren't all your downrates, but this is a good selection of your ratings abuse.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 12:50:55 PM EST
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You are doing a stellar job of (3.00 / 1)

convincing me to vote for the guy in third place.

Keep up the good work. :)


by Yoshimi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:03:26 PM EST
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Re: You are doing a stellar job of (none / 0)

It's not about convincing you to vote for anyone, your mind is set.  It's about pointing out the troll-rating of an Obama junkie who claims he doesn't do it frequently, when in fact the numbers show otherwise.

All I can say is I'd rather support the guy in third place who truly shares my values, has been tested in the presidential arena, and has worked hard for the party than to tie myself to a celebrity candidate's bandwagon.

And if Obama is so great, why did his supporters have to stuff the MyDD poll?


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:08:50 PM EST
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Re: You are doing a stellar job of (3.00 / 1)

That's rich coming from the person who leads the site in baseless attack diaries on Obama.  Even your pro-Edwards diaries, usually have a jab or two at Obama in them.  Its cool if you post Pro-Edwards stuff, but why constantly make the jabs at Obama?  Most of the Obama supporters on here won't go after Edwards at all, until someone like you starts blasting Obama.  You don't seek to educate people on your candidate, you seem to seek to insite flame wars by baselessly attacking others candidates.  THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF A TROLL.  

I'll make you a deal though, since my troll rating you obviously bothers you and your constant baseless attacks bother me.  I won't troll rate the suspect posts that baselessly attack Obama as I have been doing sometimes, even though I feel they deserve it.  The only posts I will trail rate would be if someone comes in and says "Obama is stupid."  or "Obama is a (insert racial slur)", etc.  You then will not attack Obama in diaries or posts without linking to some sort of proof that backs up your statements.
 


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:36:20 PM EST
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Re: You are doing a stellar job of (none / 0)

I am not sure who stuffed the polls... we have seen it in the past as well though with other candidates.  It could be Obama supporters, it could be another candidates supporters doing it to make the Obama supporters look bad, since Chris said he can filter them.  

Long story short though it was probably one or two people acting like assholes.  Whoever they support, they shouldn't have done it... at least Chris can filter now.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:38:38 PM EST
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it was karl rove (3.00 / 0)

who stuffed the ballots  ;)


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:47:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obama won the myDD poll anyway (none / 0)


by faithfull on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:52:53 PM EST
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Re: Obama won the myDD poll anyway (none / 0)

By less than 3%... That is a big difference from the 40% difference he had before the stuffers were removed.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:53:02 PM EST
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Re: Obama won the myDD poll anyway (none / 0)

You are right... and the poll pretty much confirms what most of us thought... that Edwards and Obama split MyDD pretty evenly.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:39:19 PM EST
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Re: Obama won the myDD poll anyway (none / 0)

Precisely.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:47:33 PM EST
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It actually means that the MyDD (none / 0)

poll is worth nothing.  Come on Hillary is tanking in this poll and winning by double digits in real polls.

This is like a circle j*rk of Edwards and Obama supporters.


by Yoshimi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 05:33:13 PM EST
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Re: It actually means that the MyDD (none / 0)

The poll gives an idea of what people on this site are feeling about the election.  That is what we expected from it and what we got.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:15:59 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

All of them were blatant trollish attacks on Obama rather than constructive criticism.  I have no problem with my rating of them.  if you like there comments then go rate them 3.  There are comments I disagree with.  Just because I do, doesn't mean I give them a low troll rating.  If they are a stupid attack, such as "Obama is a Lieberman acolyte" or "Obama has not leadership skills" or "Obama is a waste" then yes, I do see it as a trollish rating.  For the record, I have also troll rated Obama supporters when they have done the same thing to Edwards.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:27:16 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

You are not doing Obama any favors by acting like the Stasi.


Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush?.... WTF
by rbrianj on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:16:51 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

And they aren't doing Edwards any favor by baselessing attacking Obama, something you have been guilty of as well.  Criticize him all you like, just link to some proof for the allegations mentioned.  THere is legitimate criticism to every candidate. I was disappointed that Obama didn't pull out of the Nevade debate before it was cancelled.  I have no problem with people being mad at him for that specific issue.. but then for the same small minority of Edwards supporters to go out and call him weak or say he has no leadership skills, is just ridiculous.  He wasn't a leader on that issue and feel free to call him out, but he has been on many others and has been a strong leader throughout his life... a mistake on one issue or instance does not erase a lifetime of leadership and service.

If any Obama supporter had gone out and said Edwards wasn't a leader because he didn't respond fast enough to the Blogger issue, those same people would have blown up.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:37:45 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

Peter is a perfect example of someone who posts to help propel the debate.  Even for his posts that don't necessary link to items to prove his point, he is at least respectful to the candidates he doesn't support.  We may disagree, but at least we can have a conversation about it without him baselessly attacking Obama... he mentions criticisms, which is fine... but he doesn't call Obama a coward, or other such stuff.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:41:08 PM EST
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The problem is that (none / 0)

troll rating equals censorship. Censorship should only be used for those who cross the line in decency. Baseless attacks are simply opinion. Let other people judge for themselves whether something is baseless, trollish behavior. Calling Obama an "empty suit" might seem to you as a baseless attack, but it might be a totally valid statement in someone else's opinion.


Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush?.... WTF
by rbrianj on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:12:20 PM EST
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Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

No it doesn't because the system offers an option to view 0 rated posts and the 1 posts are not hidden.  Other people can judge if its trollish... thats why multiple people can rate a post.  Sorry I disagree with you about trollish behavior... even if it is someones opinion it does NOTHING to propel the debate.  Saying you think Edwards is a better leader than Obama because of this, this and this is opinion but it is respectful... saying Obama is an empty suit or a shitty leader is trollish.  Its whole purpose is incite Obama supporters.  If I came out and said Edwards is an Empty Suit, many Edwards supporters would go ballistic.  Maybe you can't see the difference and thats fine for you... I still feel its trollish and deserves to be called out.  I might abandon the 0 rating for all but the worst sort of bullshit such as the stuff mentioned above in my post to Vox in an effort to mend fences and help work toward defeating HRC, but the 1-3 ratings are there for a reason... if they shouldn't be used they should be removed from the site.  You are welcome not to use them, I will if I feel it is warranted.  And for the record, I have troll rated Obama supporters who do the same baseless shit to Edwards supporters.  Flaming posts just have no benefit to the community as a whole.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:32:07 PM EST
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Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

I don't know, but if I don't like something that is being said I will either respond or ignore, but hey I might try this "Troll Police" bit. It could be fun.


Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush?.... WTF
by rbrianj on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:35:17 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

i think this is very unfair! yitbos has been nothing but cool moderation! to call him a zealot when he engages in constructive comments with edwards supporters and usually points out agrement etc.. well that seems crazy..


by serge in dc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:14:10 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

That's exactly what I was going to say.


Help build a stronger and more progressive Democratic Party from the grassroots on up
by Peter from WI on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 10:05:27 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

Given all of us have said how important organizing grassroots is for this campaign, it does not surprise me that more than one candidate is trying to do this.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:14:44 AM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

This is probably the bigger lesson to take away here:

There are two candidates serious about working with the grassroots, no matter if their efforts are indeed a little flawed in our minds.

There is Hillary, essentially trying to be passable enough to rank-and-filers and hold onto her name rec advantage long enough to win this thing through money and media buys.  She's already failed to scare off two top-tier contenders over the past year, and she's in trouble.  Her inability to inspire anything remotely impressive with grassroots Dems and activists is the point at which Obama and Edwards can wedge her out of the race.

It's good tactically for the latter two - and good for us in the long-term.


Help build a stronger and more progressive Democratic Party from the grassroots on up
by Peter from WI on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:26:51 PM EST
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Re: this reminds me of.. (none / 0)

I have seen Onecorps... I think it is a good group.  I don't know much about it past the surface level.  It sounds like a good organization for Edwards... I don't know what its numbers are in comparison.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:12:22 AM EST
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Re: Obama looking to mobilize activist supporters (none / 0)

This is terrific. Great news


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:09:58 AM EST

The Killer App... (none / 0)

...would be to combine the top-down and bottom-up to create a totally new kind of national political movement -- that the Dean campaign in some ways only hinted at.

It's still unclear if this will be possible. But, there have been some encouraging signs, even from Obama himself.

But, without adopting some form of the Zack Exley model laid out in his "Letter to the New DNC Chair", these two campaigns will be spinning in different circles.

Imagine a world where instead of saying simply "we're giving you the tools to organize in your own community" (a pretty great thing by itself, of course), the Obama campaign added "and we've built a national outreach mechanism to ensure that the best ideas generated by the grassroots can be shared and utilized by the whole community -- including the senior campaign staff and Barack Obama, himself."

This would build morale and increase the effectiveness of the whole movement.

I'm still optimistic and patient that it can happen. And, I believe it's the only way Obama is likely to win.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:54:49 AM EST

Re: The Killer App... (none / 0)

We've got something like this within the One Corps thing.  It's working OK.  A decent amount of stuff has been exchanged between One Corps captains, rather than with the campaign as a hub - but they have worked on that.

I bring this up not to say "Edwards is more grassrootsy than Obama," but to make the point that we're still at least one to two presidential cycles away from a revolution in campaign structure and activity.  There are lots of reasons for this - not the least of which is that a) nobody has a good 'model' and no serious candidate for president is going to risk his/her shot at the most powerful job in the world on what a lot of people around him/her are saying is political suicide and b) the people in charge of campaigns still see a distinction between the analog and online components, the latter being subservient to the former, and that 'top-down' organizing is the ONLY way to go - and how the top-down thing works is very authoritative.

What everyone here has to understand is that to run really good, successful campaigns, you need to have everything align, from fundraising to field strategy to message to targeting, etc.  You can't have disparate-ness between them and expect the thing to work out.  While that leaves room for a non-authoritative direction-setting, it does not mean that there's going to be a wiki-like campaign plan or something that is truly bottom-up.  


Help build a stronger and more progressive Democratic Party from the grassroots on up
by Peter from WI on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 10:12:32 AM EST
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Re: The Killer App... (none / 0)

Well some of the advisors would be out of jobs if they advocate bottom up, since it would eliminate their need.  So there will be people fighting.  

I agree we are a cycle or two away from the winning playbook.  I think though if they knock HRC off and it comes down to a 2 way Obama Edwards race, the winner will look to 2012 and combine elements that worked from both campaigns.  We are seeing the evolution of some of Dean's ideas, mixed with social networking and grassroots organizing.  If we continue to develop this, by 2016 or 2020, we might have the winning playbook for ALL progressives in the future.


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:21:09 AM EST
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Not Either/Or... (none / 0)

...in my opinion...

Paid professional campaign staff is still extremely important. To me, it's not that "bottom-up" is superior.

Rather, the key is to synthesize the efforts of both the 'roots and the campaign in creative ways that reinforce the sense of community and shared purpose of staff and volunteers and produce results.

In short, there's no real purpose to 100,000 people re-creating the wheel in every community. With a tighter interplay between HQ and the 'roots -- with communication flowing easily in both directions -- these two important spheres of the campaign could maximize their work.

It's not easy to do. And nobody has really been able to pull it off. But, the benefits seem obvious, I think, to many of us in the netroots.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:53:01 AM EST
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Re: Not Either/Or... (none / 0)

Fair points!


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:54:37 AM EST
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Re: Not Either/Or... (none / 0)

Agreed, fair points.  Having been both paid staff and rockstar volunteer organizer, I can tell you that there will be no elimination of the need for either in the coming future.  

A flattening of hierarchy is the likely next step, though with no decrease in paid staff.  There should be more cross-functionality of staff (not like there's the internet guy, the media guy, the field guy, etc.), which would lead to more connection from the grassroots activists/volunteer-types right to the people making decisions.  

There will always be an inside circle - as that comes less from politics than from social psychology.


Help build a stronger and more progressive Democratic Party from the grassroots on up
by Peter from WI on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:31:21 PM EST
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Re: Not Either/Or... (none / 0)

Inner circles... Absolutely.

But the more transparent a campaign is about what is and what isn't controlled -- or public -- I think that increases trust and morale, too.

Meaning, I think a group's supporters can handle honesty in regard to the very existence of the inner circle -- and when the development of certain decisions and strategies can't be a shared activity.

Authentic Campaign Slogan for Grassroots Candidates

"It's not really your campaign. I mean, c'mon... But we sure could use some help."


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:50:17 PM EST
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Re: The Killer App... (none / 0)

And he might yet do it...  We will have to wait until March 31 to find out.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:16:01 AM EST
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Re: The Killer App... (none / 0)

Your observations are well taken. I would add: the fever pitch of the campaign to date should not obscure the reality that "time" is a resource not a liability. In the past, large numbers of supporters would come on board in the last days of a campaign. The Obama campaign has turned this up-side down. Rather than creating the campaign structure (i.e., top-down; bottom-up; or some combination of the two) in advance, the structure can evolve as need and the campaign moves forward. With his community organizing background Obama will understand the need to have open and responsive channels of communication that flow equally up and down.


by pservelle on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:06:58 PM EST
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Re: The Killer App... (3.00 / 2)

I have to jump in here and say something...

Who here has done community organizing?  Like serious, down and dirty community organizing?

There's at least four different main "models" that are applied and looked to as the way to do things.

Barry and me have gone through the same community organizing programs, and granted, while they were about 20 years apart, very little changed in that time.  

And the model used is not as dynamic as you make it sound.  I wouldn't count on that.  It was wonderful to learn political dynamics and organizing of a certain type, but certainly not the end-all and be-all of community organizing, as some have made it sound like all CO is the same.

That Obama's camp won't be responsive and dynamic and communicative multi-directionally I'm not arguing.  I'm saying that if they are, it won't be because he was a community organizer.


Help build a stronger and more progressive Democratic Party from the grassroots on up
by Peter from WI on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:36:01 PM EST
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Re: The Killer App... (none / 0)

To Peter from WI: My post was meant to second the points made by Vermonter.
I'm not clear why you got off on the mechanics of community organizing.
My main point is that the coupling of huge numbers of energized supporters with the long time horizon of this campaign provides organizing opportunities here-to-fore not available; Howard Dean not-with-standing.
by pservelle on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:47:43 PM EST
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Re: Obama looking to mobilize activist supporters (3.00 / 0)

This report from California Progress Report was pretty eye-opening.

On just two days notice, close to 500 volunteers showed up in the Bay Area--not for a rally by Barack Obama--but to plan his upcoming appearance on March 17 in Oakland. Two separate meetings were held by organizers of the Obama campaign.


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by Adam Conner on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:24:41 AM EST

Re: Obama looking to mobilize activist supporters (none / 0)

I don't usually do this kind of stuff (meetups) but there is one in Baltimore and I may just go.


by aiko on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:39:41 PM EST

He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

while others have been running for President for 6 years!

As a former leader of the DraftObama.org movement, I, too, had a non-public view of frustration at how slow the transition was going from the Draft period to the integration of the draft groups into the campaign.  But now things are MOVING - the house parties are just a start.  Look at the hundreds that are gathering all over the country now in meetup style groups, and Obama's not even there!  DC will have about 200 folks this Saturday alone.

And, further, I've been very impressed with Chris Hughes' way with the my.barackobama.com site, and folks who support Obama are invited to "be my Obama friend" - okay, that just sounded cheesey, but still, I'd love to have any MYDD readers who support Obama to invite me: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community /blog/kris


by schultzy on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:18:53 PM EST

Re: He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

what's your email address?  There is a MYDD group on the site as well.


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:17:28 PM EST
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Re: He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

You don't think Obama has been running for President since his speech at the DNC in '04


Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush?.... WTF
by rbrianj on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:16:24 PM EST
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Re: He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

Not seriously and not with 2008 in mind.  I think he had the ambition, but thats like saying Hillary has been running since 2000 and Edwards since he was first elected.  Seriously running means getting the operations in place on the ground... and all evidence points to this being recent for Obama... the main reason Edwards were in place were because he ran in 2003.


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:34:23 PM EST
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Re: He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

no i don't.


by serge in dc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:09:42 PM EST
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Re: He's only had a campaign for a few weeks... (none / 0)

If you say so.


Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush?.... WTF
by rbrianj on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:49:29 PM EST
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