MyDD :: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conference

Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conference

by Jonathan Singer, Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:32:31 PM EST

Bumped-Chris

Live on the cable nets, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is holding a press conference in an attempt to stave off calls for his resignation. Consider this an open thread on this topic and others on your mind...

Gonzales concedes that "mistakes have been made" and that "the responsibility" lies on him -- but effectively states that he will not accept responsibility for his own actions or those who work under him.
Gonzales ducks a very tough question, one that goes to the heart of why he is in trouble: How is it possible that your chief of staff was consulting with the White House to craft a list of United States Attorneys to be fired and you not know about it? Very, very weak answer from Gonzales centers on the notion that Gonzales has a lot of employees.
Gonzales states that he believes that the mistake made was that information was not shared with the Congress, completely ducking the fact that a) there was undo political and partisan pressure put on U.S. Attorneys and that b) these prosecutors were fired for those political and partisan reasons. On a follow up question, Gonzales continues to assert that it is a problem of communication, not corruption.
To conclude, Gonzales says that he stands by his decision.

Very, very weak. Anyway, feel free to consider this an open thread on any topic... What's on your mind? The prosecutor purge? Homophobia from the top of the military? The Dow moving way down again?

Tags: Open Thread, Prosecutor Purge, Alberto Gonzales (all tags)

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No resignation -- big surprise (none / 0)

Babbles Rummy-certified "I serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States."

Now he gets to string this out and get grilled further.

by jcjcjc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:23:34 PM EST

Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

Gonzales has plenty of employees but only one chief of staff.

What is it with chiefs of staff these days? First Libby and now this. I wonder why Republicans keep voting for people who cannot seem to find decent staff chiefs.

by RickD on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:26:17 PM EST

Re: Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

He's whimmpering about how he can't keep track of everything going on in a 100,000 person organization.

Aaaaww poor guy. It's too much for him. Maybe he should resign since he can't handle it. (I was waiting for the words "It's hard work.")

Also, he said that they were trying to find poor performers and remove them. These people had positive job performance reviews from last year!! That justification will not stick.

He keeps trying to throw his chief of staff (the one that just resgined) under the bus. Schumer already said that he won't allow the guy to be the next Libby.

That press conference did the administration no good in my opinion.

Also, I love John Conyers.

Government derives its power from those that it governs.

by lockewasright on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:30:26 PM EST

He's gone...just a matter of time. Hours? Days? (none / 0)

by Coral on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:33:17 PM EST

Based on Rumsfeld (none / 0)

Gonzalez makes it to the end of the term. Also, don't forget that Gonzalez is an old Texas hand of Bush. That's more credibility than Rummy had.

Barring something truly outlandish -- and Gonzalez doesn't strike me as someone who was IMing pages -- he's staying until the end of the term.

The truth is, at this point, there's more value in dragging this out. 2007 and 2008 are going to be relative stalemates. The Dems need to further perpetuate the themes of incompetence and corruption. This helps.

We need to be able to go into November 2008 asking the American people to give us more. More Dems in Congress, alongside a Democratic president, so we can finally drain the swamp.

by jcjcjc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:52:27 PM EST
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Re: Based on Rumsfeld (none / 0)

What if the investigation causes El Presidente to chose between his lover Karl Rove and Gonzales or even investigations focused on himself vs getting rid of torture boy?

Government derives its power from those that it governs.

by lockewasright on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:02:24 PM EST
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How will that happen? (none / 0)

Short of a threat of impeachment, why would Bush burn anyone? The truth is, on the home front, Bush is playing a very strong hand of cards against a very gun shy set of opponents.

by jcjcjc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 11:03:53 PM EST
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Interesting pro-Lieberman Digg (none / 0)

http://digg.com/politics/There_is_someth ing_profoundly_right_about_Joe_Lieberman ?cshow=5671921#c5671921

Lets represent.

by mihan on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:33:32 PM EST

It was Alberto Gonzales' hand that was picking (none / 0)

He wasn't picking his nose. His hand was picking his nose. Talk to the hand.
(ala Jon Stewart)

by Ma Joad on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 02:39:33 PM EST

Re: It was Alberto Gonzales' hand (3.00 / 1)

Paraphrased from Euripides: "It was not me who lied, it was my tongue that violated the oath."

John McCain loves war.

by Winston Smith on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:38:53 PM EST
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Alberto Gonzales Press Conference (none / 0)

I see that the choice of the word "purge" has stuck... who came up with that? Stoller or you Singer? :)

Anyways, there should be NO WAY IN BLEEPING HELL that Dems in Congress accept these pat answers.

by LnGrrrR on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:22:14 PM EST

Nice to see Gonzales sweat for once. (none / 0)

I'm so sick of seeing that smug dickhead testifying to Congress with a smug smile on his face like he doesn't have to take any of it seriously because he's the teacher's pet and everybody else can kiss his ass. He almost seemed like he was about to cry today. Accountability's a bitch.

miasmo.com

by miasmo on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:25:51 PM EST

Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

Yesterday in California the Senate leader Perata locked out three Democratic legislators from their office for part of a day. Their offense: forming a centrist pro-corporate caucus and fundraising for it, after he warned them not to. Perata is enforcing party discipline, but at what cost?

There is an interesting discussion going on over at Calitics, but figured MyDDers would have opinions on the subject.

by juls on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 03:33:22 PM EST

Here's my question (3.00 / 2)

Ok, we have a study that shows that under the Bush Justice Department, 297 Democrats have been investigated by U.S. attorneys, compared to just 67 Republicans. We even have a handy spreadsheet showing when and where the investigations and prosecutions took place:

http://www.epluribusmedia.org/columns/20 07/Table%201%20375%20Candidates%20and%20 Elected%20Public%20Officials.pdf

So here's my question: did the prosecutor in Hawaii who investigated 7 Democrats and 0 Republicans do so at the behest of the White House or DOJ? How about the Nevada prosecutor(s) who went after 14 Dems and 0 Repubs? Or the Michigan prosecutor, who chased 17 Dems and 0 Repubs? Or the Maryland prosecutor who chased 21 Dems and 0 Repubs?

We know that targetting Democrats is an important part of job security if you are a U.S. attorney in the Bush Justice Department. Presumably, the more Dems you prosecute, the faster and brighter your star burns. It stands to reason that for every U.S. Attorney who refused to carry the Administration's water, there were more than a few who did so with considerable zeal.

Can we please identify some of the U.S. Attorneys who focused the majority of their efforts on Democrats and ask them, on the record, if they did so based on a specific request by anyone at DoJ?

by owenz on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:04:00 PM EST

The impartiality of all U.S. Attys are in question (none / 0)

When you combine the politcal firings of the Attorneys that didn't play ball, WITH the information about slow prosecutions of republicans in cases surrounding Abramoff, New Hampshire phone scandal, AND the news around 80% of all federal local cases that involved a political figure, were against Democrats.

Let's put Fitgerald or Comey as the Special Prosecutor on this case.

Also - now that it is clear Gonzales lied under oath, isn't that a crime? The Senators don't seem to be too interested in charging for that.

by jc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:23:07 PM EST
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Re: The impartiality of all U.S. Attys (none / 0)

I emailed the authors of the study to ask if they could reproduce the table I linked to above with the names of the prosecuting attorneys included.

Once we have the names of the U.S. Attorneys who have prosecuted the most Democrats, the story will start coming into more focus. Reporters can ask these U.S. Attorneys, on the record, why they have targeted Democrats over Republicans. Were they instructed to do so by the Department of Justice? Was it common knowledge that in order to get ahead, investigating Democrats was a must? Did they do so to protect their job?

In addition, reporters can contact U.S. Attorneys who have NOT investigated a disproportionate number of Democrats if they received any threats from the White House, Department of Justice, or Congressional Republicans.

by owenz on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:43:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

I've taken the pulse of some of my conservative colleagues, who to a man seem to think this is a pretty big scandal, particularly the New Mexico allegations. A Senator calling you at home and hanging up when you tell him you don't plan to indict a Democrat before the November election? Come on, that's sexy. It sells itself.

Something that also strikes me is that Gonzales seems to be very unpopular with the conservatives I know, and I don't just mean lately. It occurs to me that one reason for that is that conservatives like authority and authority figures; by extension, they don't like servile toadies and Gonzales practically comes straight from central casting. They don't respect loyalty, what they respect is strength.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:14:24 PM EST

Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

Isn't Gonzo a social moderate as well? I thought that was a big reason he didn't get a SCOTUS nom.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:42:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Alberto Gonzales Press Conference (none / 0)

Just an FYI, John Edwards became the first Democrat running for president to call on Gonzales to resign. View the press release here:
http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-re leases/20070313-gonzales/

The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK

by Vox Populi on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:18:52 PM EST

"Mistakes". (none / 0)

Interesting that, if I'm reading all of this right, the spin they've settled on (and that the media so far seems to be buying) is basically the same one used on, among other things, the Iraq War intelligence-- that this was all a mistake. These politically beneficial and elaborately orchestrated (with apparently people as diverse as state senators, Justice Department members, and Karl Rove involved) firings weren't corruption, they were just mistakes. Apparently we are to believe the White House is actually capable of engaging in political retaliations by accident.

I don't know what's more amazing-- the frequency with which "Don't blame us! We're just incompetent!" has been used as an excuse by the administration; or the fact that people seem to actually be totally satisfied with this explanation, rather than stopping to ask "wait, isn't incompetence bad too?".

by Silent sound on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 05:08:54 PM EST

Re: "Mistakes". (none / 0)

And yet, the "mistakes" had the intended effect. The plan laid out by Lampson, somehow came to fruition.

As Hunter says"

"If it was just a runaway Kyle Sampson acting on his own, then the matter would have dropped. The "target list" of U.S. Attorneys wouldn't have been forced out. The Patriot Act provisions would not have been used. And yet, they were forced out, and yet, the Patriot Act was used. By Gonzales himself."

So why is then news buying this whole "mistake" angle???

by jc on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 05:39:38 PM EST
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He compared himself to a CEO (none / 0)

and said he's responsible.

We all know how little responsibility most CEO's are held to, particularly if they are CEO's of larg corporations. The same standard does not apply to the small ones corporations that are the backbone of Maine's economy.

by zic on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:36:55 PM EST

Reading the document dumps... (none / 0)

Harriet Miers and Kyle Sampson, along with MANY others, definitely knew about the firestorm that would kick up. They sure do love that "pleasure of the President" line...and were silly to think THAT would shield them.

by LnGrrrR on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:27:15 PM EST

It's deep... (none / 0)

They knew there'd be political ramifications...the document dump proves that. They're stupid to think that the 'pleasure of the president' defense would shield them.

by LnGrrrR on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:28:03 PM EST

Sorry for double post nt (none / 0)

by LnGrrrR on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 07:28:35 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

Damn, I thought his presser was gonna be to announce a federal probe into the NCAA selection committee.

by pjsauter on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:15:04 PM EST

the real shit (none / 0)

So, Josh Marshall has basically led the charge in the whole attorney firing scandal so far. The scandal has already enveloped a senator, a congress-critter, Gonzales's chief of staff, and probably soon Gonzales himself. And to this point, the scandal has focused almost exclusively on whether attorneys were fired for failing to prosecute Democrats.

And yet there is a different angle in this tawdry tale, which focuses on San Diego, where Carol Lam - who prosecuted Duke Cunningham, and just indicted Dusty Foggo and Brent Wilkes - was fired. The media has hardly touched it. Nor has Congress. And yet, look what Josh says about it:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archive s/013019.php

According to Josh, "Everything else pales in comparison."

And I have to say...the biggest part of this particular quadrant of the scandal will not be the White House silencing a prosecutor who was about to take down Republicans. The big part - the really ugly and shocking part - is what Lam was closing in on. Josh offers a hint:

"...the still largely hidden corrupt dealings at the heart of the intelligence operations in the Rumsfeld Pentagon."

This is where things go deep. Congressional Dems have no clue, nor do the DC press corps. I'm talking bad ugliness.

After 9/11, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld didn't think Congress should have any oversight over intelligence operations. So they moved more and more off the books, black-ops programs out of the CIA (which is overseen by Congress) and into the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans and the Office of the Vice President. They used Duke Cunningham and Brent Wilkes to do it. This is why John Negroponte quit as head of intelligence. He was spooked by the lack of oversight. He remembered Iran/Contra and he didn't want to go there again.

Think: Dick Cheney, unchained and unfettered by oversight or human decency. We're talking about a dark, dark place.

If Dems keep pulling the string, something big is going to come...

by owenz on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 12:48:19 AM EST

Alberto Gonzales Press Conference (none / 0)

Kudos to Josh Marshall and TPM for uncovering the truth...As far as the "Dukester" scandal goes, owenz, if there is more to the story I'm confident that Josh and TPM will get to the bottom of it. Hats off to Josh!

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Re: Open Thread -- Alberto Gonzales Press Conferen (none / 0)

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