Who Decided to Have Fox News Host a Debate In Nevada?

Harry Reid has denied he made the decision. Spokespeople for the Nevada Dems have said that other states parties were involved. Now, we learn this bit of news from an insider on Nevada politics (emphasis mine):
In the case of the decision to include FOX News in our partisan pre-caucus debate this August, apparently those who made this decision forgot who and what FOX News is and who and what our opponents are. This was not a NV Dems decision, this was a unilateral move without the consultation of the Executive Board of the Democratic Party of the State of Nevada, nor the executive boards of the other sponsor states.
OK, so if it wasn't other state parties, and it wasn't Harry Reid, and it wasn't the Nevada Dems executive board, then who the hell made this decision? The lack of transparency here is stunning. The intentional obfuscation, lack of responsibility and unwillingness to work with anyone in your own party is equally so. Sure, it is nice that Nevada Dems can strong-arm people into making high-profile endorsements of the debate medium, but like everything else in this process that is exactly the sort of tactics the Bush administration would use. Grotesque. Mark down yet another Democratic Party institution that does not feel accountable to its membership whatsoever.



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Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News ... (none / 0)

It's obvious they want to pass the buck.  They caught so much shit for it, no one wants to own up to it.  If Harry really had as big balls as we hope he has ... he'd cancel this thing himself.  Has anyone else been calling his DC office?  If so, what did they tell you?


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 10:22:51 PM EST

Re: Who... (none / 0)

Appalling weasels. If I lived in Nevada I'd take after the Nevada party liars who are running things. Nationally, if we can get more progressive/populists in the Senate in '08, then we could campaign for a new leader to replace Reid.


by johnalive on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 10:38:31 PM EST

Harry Reid's son? (none / 0)

AKA: Hillary's Nevada Chair


by Bob Brigham on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 10:39:41 PM EST

Re: Harry Reid's son? (none / 0)

Another Clinton conspiracy, I guess.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:06:57 AM EST
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Does it really matter? (none / 0)

This seems to be much ado about nothing.  One state.  One debate.  Once it's over it's over.


by jptrenn on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 10:50:26 PM EST

Re: Does it really matter? (3.00 / 1)

Democrats must stop legitimizing conservative propaganda outlets.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:21:23 PM EST
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Re: Does it really matter? (none / 0)

Fox is already established as a leading news outlet.  They're also already established as a biased news outlet.  So leading doens't necessarily mean legitimate.

Why not put together some sort of viral piece like Bob Greenwald's Fox Attacks Obama and send it to each state party?  Each candidate for federal or statewide office?

This could embarress the Nevada party and get others to take notice of your point that Fox shouldn't be supported.


by jptrenn on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:44:24 AM EST
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Re: Who Decided Fox News Debate? (none / 0)

Who cares if FOX NEWS hosts a debate? I mean, who really cares? MODERATE DEMOCRATS sure don't!


by DfD on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:09:36 PM EST

Re: Who Decided Fox News Debate? (3.00 / 1)

Um... the guy who wrote this article is a self proclaimed moderate Democrat on the executive board of the Nevada Democratic Party.

But I am glad you assume you speak for all moderate Democrats in your love of Fox News.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:20:45 PM EST
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They just gave Santorum a job. (none / 0)

   Fox News is reported to have hired Santorum as a new correspondent.  I know everyone is shocked by this.  I can't wait until the debate when Santorum, who just lost a Senate race by 18 points, gets to comment on the Democratic primary debate.  This debate is so stupid I don't even want to think about it.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:31:19 PM EST
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Re: They just gave Santorum a job. (none / 0)

Santorum as a correspondent and not as a commentator?


by jptrenn on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:49:55 AM EST
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Re: Who Decided Fox News Debate? (none / 0)

Do you even know who their viewers are?  Faux Noise Channel's viewers tend to be over 55.  Like any of those people are gonna change their minds.  They aren't picking up younger viewers.


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 02:10:28 AM EST
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Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News host a Debate In (none / 0)

There is only one possible explanation.

Nevada Democrats Drugged & Raped By Fox News


by Virt on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:13:13 PM EST

Re: Who Decided (none / 0)

There are only 1 person who could've decided this unilaterally: the Chair of the Nevada Democratic Party.  He's the only one who had the authority to act without consulting everyone else.  Anyone else would've had to get someone to sign off on the deal (including Reid, as someone from the NDP would've had to sign the contract).  So it had to be the someone with the authority to sign a contract without prior consent (or the apparent authority to do so), and that person could only be the chair.


by Jim Treglio on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:22:35 PM EST

Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News Host a Debate In (none / 0)

Chris, I don't have the answer to your rhetorical questions, but I am glad that you are keeping up the pressure on the powers that be to be accountable for their decisions.  I say raise a big stink over this.  We have your back!

shlenny


by shlenny on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:27:35 PM EST

Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News Host a Debate In (none / 0)

Until we have democracy, integrity, transparency, accountability and dedication to serving the interests of the Democratic constituency at the state level, how can we expect the same in DC?  This is where reform is needed.  This decision is a symptom of what is wrong with the Democratic Party.  There is self interest at work without thought on how these decisions affect the base and the candidates.  Strange people in charge - nobody knows who made the decision?  Good work Chris.  We marvel why Democrats can't get together in DC and end the war.   They can't even set up a debate in Nevada that looks after Democratic interests.  This pressure is good for future decision-making.  

I sometimes dispair at the incompetence and spinelessness of Democratic Party leaders.  They criticize the netroots for nipping at their heels.  It will change but it takes work at every level and each battle is worth fighting even though one would think that everybody knows Fox is a Republican propoganda tool.


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by pioneer111 on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 11:45:58 PM EST

Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News. (none / 0)

MODERATE DEMOCRATS don't love FOX NEWS!


by DfD on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:02:16 AM EST

Nevada at risk in 2012 (none / 0)

Actually, there is something new to be hopeful about in the article Chris quotes (by Clark County member of the Nevada State Democratic Party's Executive Board Michael Zahara):
We need to protect the best interests of our candidates and either find another network, don't broadcast at all, or cancel the event. The stakes are far too high and the potential for disaster far too great to experiment with playing on the other team's playing field for our Democratic Party partisan pre-caucus debate events.

It's a step forward to have an individual who is a member of the executive board calling for cancellation or replacement of Fox. The next step would be for the executive board as a body to join their voice to ours and call for cancellation or replacement. Let's keep up the pressure.
Zahara also hints at what worries Nevada dems in the long run:
This decision all but guarantees the early caucus will be a one-shot deal for Nevada and that the DNC will move to a Western Primary state in 2012.

If this debate goes forward as planned, we should work to ensure another Western state take the place of Nevada in 2012. WHy should Nevada be at the head of the primaries if this kind of disaster develops in their backyard?
Other Western primary state party officials take note and be ready to press your argument to take Nevada's place if Fox News isn't removed from this event. I predict that there will be broad national support for change among Democratic party activists and faithful.
by johnalive on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:55:37 AM EST

Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News Host a Debate In (none / 0)

This is very interesting.  I hope we find out the real deal  Good point on transparency.


by aiko on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:04:25 AM EST

Success in effort to remove Fox (none / 0)

Need proof about the effectiveness of the effort to remove Fox from the Nevada debates? The author of the blog post that Chris quotes and links here, Mike Zahara, reports this in the comment thread of that same blog post:

The overwhelming majority of our State Central Committee and our voters have a big problem with this decision. My email box is filled with the opinions of those who elected me to my position on the Board and others. 75% are in favor of my views on this matter.
My guess is that this will be candidate driven and they will wisely bow out.

Far too much risk involved so early in the game. It was just a poor decision, let's correct it and move on to other issues.

Don't let the Nevada democrats kick the can down the road and make it the responsibility of the primary candidates to avoid a Fox ambush. Contact Nevada political leaders and let them know  before August 14th they will be held accountable and responsible for fixing the mess they have created.


by johnalive on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 12:13:13 PM EST

Re: Who Decided to Have Fox News Host a Debate In (none / 0)

The buck stops with Reid.


by opus on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 10:13:54 PM EST


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