John Edwards' "Sister Souljah Moment?"

Did John Edwards just have a "Sister Souljah moment" - in reverse?

A bit of backstory for those who weren't around back then (or don't remember): In 1992, then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton famously criticized Sister Souljah for her comment "If Black people kill Black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?", as she was quoted in an interview with the Washington Post. Clinton remarked that if "you took the words `white' and `black' and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech." Clinton not only lashed out at Souljah - he also went on to criticize Jesse Jackson for allowing her to speak at a Rainbow Coalition/PUSH event. This moment, now known as the "Sistah Souljah moment", was a tactical move that showed moderate Democrats and independents that Clinton could be "tough on crime" and that he wouldn't be too strongly influenced by the African-American portion of the Democratic base.

Edwards was presented with a similar "opportunity". He hired two bloggers whose previous writings are considered by many to be inflammatory. When presented with examples of their writings, Edwards could easily have said, "While I hired these two to reach out to the emerging netroots of the Democratic Party, and I understand that sometimes people use colorful language on blogs, I did not know what extremists Ms. Marcotte and Ms. McEwan were. I won't have anything to do with their views on religion, and I have dismissed them from my campaign." Such a move would have shown voters that while he's got a lot of populist views on economics and the Iraq war, he's definitely a mainstream Christian guy. The failure to properly vet the bloggers would have been forgotten as inside baseball.

Unfortunately, the same move would have perpetuated the stereotype that left-leaning blogs are a fever swamp, that politicians interact with us at their own peril. It would have perpetuated the meme that the right speaks up for religion and faith, while the atheist left smears people of faith and deserves to apologize for it. By keeping the bloggers, and by giving them the opportunity to speak for themselves, Edwards did the opposite. His statement showed that you can stand up for free speech and respect others' viewpoints while disapproving of the manner in which they expressed it. Even more than that, Edwards showed that he was ready to stand up for the movement, rather than score political points by distancing himself from us.



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unfortunately not (none / 0)

there are still a lot of clark supporters online - not the real world who will support despite the seemingly impossible odds.

political wire ranks 2nd tier long shots and he's behind richardson, dodd, biden and vilsack


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by TarHeel on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:07:09 PM EST

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huh?


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by clarkent on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:11:19 PM EST
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meant I don't think it will be a turning point...


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by TarHeel on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:42:02 PM EST
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The Sister Souljah moment itself wasn't a turning point in the campaign - it wasn't like all those who were laid off in the '91-'92 recession finally opened their eyes to Clinton. It was part of a larger narrative of Clinton as the "the sensible liberal."


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by clarkent on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 11:06:00 AM EST
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What the hell are you talking about?  When did the diarist mention Clark in this diary?

As to the substance of the diary, I'm still waiting to see what was so brave about Edwards actions - waiting over 24 hours to watch the reactions of the internet before he rehired the bloggers.  It was pandering when Edwards hired them and more pandering when he re-hired/refuse to fire them.  I'm amazed that people are still gawking over this.


by areucrazy on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 02:42:43 AM EST
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He's taken a lot of guff (none / 0)

for it on TV.. CNBC had kudlow go after him for about 20 minutes yesterday...


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by TarHeel on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 07:32:16 AM EST
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I'll second that huh? What does Wes Clark have to do with this diary or it not being a turning point?
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by abburdlen on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:53:29 PM EST

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Your point is very well taken.  I respect Edwards position on this too.  I think he missed a golden opportunity to have a swipe at the militant Right blogoshere for free, in his own defense as it were, but I think no less of him that he passed it up.

The netroots support for Amanda and Melissa was a joy to behold and I was honoured to participate, albeit minorly, in their defense with emails to the media and so forth.  I am a newcomer to this forum and am just coming to terms with how long and how effectively you all have been acting as a Rapid Response eForce on behalf of the Left.

But I strongly believe, and I am not an Edwards supporter, that the overt threat to Edwards of loss of support among you if he didn't take a particular course of action may have made things more difficult for him than otherwise.  If you intended making your support conditional on the inclusion of planks of your 'platform' in his campaign then you have succeeded.  

If your intention, on the other hand, and I am addressing his many supporters, is to help him get elected president and you trust, or at least concede, his judgement in tactical decisions through the course of his run, things could have probably gone better.


by Shaun Appleby on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 12:12:32 AM EST

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Agreed.  Firing the people you hired to reach out to a certain group is pretty incompetent management.  It was an easy call and all the Edwards fawning is getting tiresome.


by areucrazy on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 02:45:13 AM EST
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He never fired them.


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by clarkent on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 08:22:09 AM EST
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I'm sorry if you think discussion of this is "Edwards-fawning". I just found it to be an interesting parallel, if not perfectly analogous.

Besides, there's a lot of fawning going on all around. I've seen a diary on how Obama is running a completely transformational campaign, with the evidence offered being the lack of Obama campaign signs at the DNC Winter Meetings. There are a lot of fawning Clark diaries, although those tend to have more substance to them. You even see fawning Hillary diaries here, fer crying out loud!


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by clarkent on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 08:44:05 AM EST
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I think Francis Holland is the only one with the FAWNING HRC Diaries ;-)

Personally, I have no issues with Fawning Diaries.  I have no issues with diaries that offer constructive criticism of candidates.  The only ones I have issues with are the blatant attack ones... it seems the majority on here have been Edward's supporters on Obama, but I have seen some Obama attack ones on Edwards.  What I have been surprised to not see is the ones attacking HRC.

Watching CSPAN and a Republican caller alled in saying that having a muslim as a leader would be bad... luckily the CSPAN moderator set her straight and when she said he had changed his name, the guy pointed out he was named at birth.  Friggin Idiot, but that is a potential point of attack by Republican low blow assholes... which I have a feeling is why we will see him mention his Christian faith a lot in speeches (although he is a religious man so he might do that regardless).  So far most of the calls have been very positive.  


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by yitbos96bb on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 11:48:54 AM EST
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If your intention, on the other hand, and I am addressing his many supporters, is to help him get elected president and you trust, or at least concede, his judgement in tactical decisions through the course of his run, things could have probably gone better.

Sure, things could have gone better. People could have shut up inside the campaign instead of leaking to the press that the bloggers were fired, when that didn't actually happen. Jennifer Palmieri could have had a more forceful response, and the entire campaign could have dealt with the situation more quickly.

But if you compare this with Obama's madrassa "problem", the Obama campaign dealt with it just as slowly, and it was a much easier problem to solve. Obama didn't actually attend an Islamic terrorist training school! By comparison, Amanda actually wrote offensive things about religion, and the Edwards campaign could have let her go and picked up a few points for doing so. But they didn't - they drew the line in the sand.


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by clarkent on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 08:37:01 AM EST
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