The Young 'Uns Are Impressive

I suppose it's inevitable that a new group of interesting and motivated supporters are going to come into the process every four years and make the party their own.  For the first time in four years (at least), there were competitive elections for college Democrats.  DNC members are openly talking about defying the next Democratic President in their vote to select the next DNC Chair, and are voting down Howard Dean's resolutions in executive committee meetings.  Tavis Smiley is remaking black politics into a movement again, and pushing a book into the number one spot on the New York Times best-seller list published by a minority owned firm (and ignored by the mass media, including Oprah).  

What have this people-powered politics thing done?  So let me just say on behalf of the million plus young people that are about to encounter a corroded political system that will test the limits of their ability to withstand cynicism - Obama, don't screw this up.

What happened at George Mason provided physical evidence that Obama's youth following is more than a bunch of kids who clicked a button. Before the rally, Obama's campaign already knew they had a massive presence on Facebook. Students for Barack Obama (SFBO) had around 60,000 members, and even more astonishingly, a 26-year-old named Farouk Olu Aregbe had assembled more than 200,000 in his Facebook group "Barack Obama (One Million Strong for Barack)" in little more than two weeks (the group now has more than 272,000 members). According to Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes, the growth was "unprecedented." As a point of comparison, the Facebook group for Hillary Clinton has fewer than 4,000 students and the largest group for John Edwards has half that.

Joe Trippi, the architect of Dean's web-driven grassroots campaign in 2004, marveled at the activity: "The Obama campaign had nothing to do with it, and they're already at 250,000 people. That's amazing--the Dean campaign, it took us six months to get to 139,000 people."

Meredith Segal, a junior at Bowdoin College, started the SFBO group on Facebook in the summer of 2006, in hopes that it would serve as a petition to encourage Obama to run. Thanks largely to Facebook's "news feed" technology, which sends out automatic alerts about the activities of all of one's Facebook "friends," the word spread fast. Soon, she was being inundated with messages and e-mails from students across the country who were eager to help. Segal and others began convening conference calls, and before long, a sophisticated operation with chapters across the country, a regional leadership structure, a field team, a communications department, a finance department and a website had evolved. The group even has a student at Gallaudet University in Washington, a school for the deaf, who specifically coordinates students with disabilities. "We started as a Facebook group, but as the rally demonstrates, we're a whole lot beyond Facebook at this point," says Segal. "We're in the real world."

Agrebe's "Barack Obama (One Million Strong)" group [registration required], which is collaborating with SFBO, is also leveraging its online manpower into tangible results. Within hours of launching a fundraising initiative--with the goal of collectively raising $1 million with small donations from members--students had already given $2,000 to the Obama campaign.

A monster!  We've created a monster!

Go get 'em, kids.  This is an open thread for college and youth organizing.



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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (none / 0)

"This was a serious campaign-level rally," said 22-year-old Adam Conner, who attended the rally and runs the RunObama.com blog, "something you expect to see towards October of an election year rather than February of an off-year."

Who is that handsome young man quoted in the second graf?!?


www.adamconner7.com
by Adam Conner on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 12:47:30 PM EST

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Wow, i actually thought you were older Adam.  Nice job!


by yitbos96bb on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:28:05 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (none / 0)

I'm a 23 year old political junkie and my age group (18-24) heavily underperforms at the voting booth compared to all other ones. It's a fact my people need to be bribed with free stuff at the voting booth to vote.

Unless, you live in a pollitically active urban area, or on a college campus, you are less likely to vote in the general election (and forget about voting in a primary).  

I just graduated from Uconn last year and the voter turnout on campus was so tremendous that it was  actually the main reason  why Joe Courtney (Ct-2) won by less than 100 votes over Rob Simmons.

ALl I'm saying is how many of the facebook supporters of OBama will be voting for him in the Iowa Caucus, Nevada Caucus, New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries.


by Djneedle83 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:21:38 PM EST

Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (3.00 / 1)

Youth turnout has been on a rising trend in the past two elections. You shouldn't be so down on yr people.

Breaking the perception of apathy is important in continuing this trend.


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by Josh Koenig on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:35:41 PM EST
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interesting! (3.00 / 1)

this is fascinating stuff; I think the more we see behind the curtain on the organizing, the better it gets. If there's really this much structure -- and it feels more and more legitimate -- that's very good. It's good for Barack, but more importantly it also means that the network which will build over the next year should hold together even if Obama's campaign doesn't.

The exciting thing here is seeing people self-organize and build political power. Whether or not it works for a particular candidate or not is somewhat beside the point. My hope is that "the kids" (my peoples!) get far enough along that they're doing it for themselves rather than Barack. The candidate is virtually guaranteed to disappoint.


Me | My Work | Future Majority
by Josh Koenig on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:28:02 PM EST

Re: interesting! (none / 0)

To help Obama they must be "doing it for themselves rather than Barack," too.

Meanwhile, Barack says he is doing it for them (and us), and not for himself. If that is his honest perspective and he can keep those who would undermine that approach at bay, then all can come together in a "transformational" and "insurgent" campaign.

The cynic in me wants to say, "Won't happen." But then, Obama says his opponent (and ours) is cynicism.


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by demondeac on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:36:10 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

I don't trust Obama any further than I can throw him, because he hasn't done anything to earn my trust, and his communications strategy is obviously slick and well-thought-out. It's clear he and his team have a plan, but they're not telling anyone what it is, least of all their volunteer supporters.

I strongly doubt that the Obama campaign proper will be meaningfully transformational or insurgent. He's clearly playing ball with the establishment.

However, there's no reason his candidacy couldn't simultaneously help drive transformational/insurgent  effects around itself. You could have a situation where the independent/volunteer network is basically running a shadow campaign.


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by Josh Koenig on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:31:54 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

And what have the other candidates done to earn your trust?


by yitbos96bb on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:30:07 PM EST
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Nothing. I didn't mean to imply that I trusted any of them either.


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by Josh Koenig on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:10:45 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

And what proof do you have he is playing ball with the establishment?  Is it the fact he isn't taking campaign donations from PACs and Lobbyists?  Is it the fact he is pushing for his supporters to organize and fundraise on his website?  I'm curious how it is OBVIOUS he is playing ball, since a good number of us pretty much feel that is a ridiculous statement.


by yitbos96bb on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:32:30 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

I'm referring to his behavior as a Senator and as a public figure since he rose to national prominence. There's nothing in his actions that suggests a willingness (let alone any desire) to rock the boat.

Steering clear of PACs/Lobbyist money is nice, but that's mostly for show and everybody knows it. He's got pretty big bundles, just like everyone else.

I just think its a mistake to ascribe a transformative aspect to his candidacy, at this stage anyway. The independent energy around the idea is certainly quite something, but the candidate himself hasn't (thus far) shown much aptitude for working with it.


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by Josh Koenig on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:21:13 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

I don't mind if he is playing ball with the Establishment so long as he is on our side and has some good moves.  Frankly, I think the perception he can play ball, as you put it, and win for the good guys may contribute to what I am hoping is a significant populist candidacy that draws from demographics outside of the Left and, for that matter, traditional Democrats.

The most elite manipulation of our legal and social system is only made possible by the acquiesance of the electorate.  I hope Senator Obama plans to reach as many of them as possible where this does not comprimise the principles he advocates in his candidacy.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:06:02 PM EST
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Re: interesting! (none / 0)

That's an interesting perspective, and you may be right.

I don't think his feel-good rhetoric won't last past Labor Day, and I think as he's forced to de-cypher himself there are a lot of pitfalls.


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by Josh Koenig on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:23:26 PM EST
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dang double-negatives (none / 0)

GRRR

Should be, "I don't think his feel-good rhetoric will last past Labor Day."


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by Josh Koenig on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:24:20 PM EST
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Re: dang double-negatives (none / 0)


Always in motion is the future.

    Yoda



by Shaun Appleby on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 05:01:19 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (3.00 / 1)

Here's the problem:

Political campaigns either view us as a source of free labor, or try to be "cool" without realizing what that means. The result is either a view of young people as volunteers, not voters; or, worse, painful attempts to talk to young voters about bullshit issues as if we don't care about real issues. Start reaching out to the youth, and the youth will put boots on the ground.

Don't take us for granted, in other words. I think there's genuinely a lot of people who care about this country and care about politics who just felt left behind by seemingly out-of-touch politicians. Obama seems different to a lot of those people.


Further Reading
by Dave Sund on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:41:20 PM EST

Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (3.00 / 1)

When a campaign conveys that all they expect from college students are to be "boots on the ground"--i.e, free labor and no seat at the decision-making table--it's up to us as College Dems to let them know that we want more. We have a lot to offer, after all. In general, we're more internet-savvy than most people who work on campaigns. We know blogs, we know facebook, we know myspace, and we know viral media. By and large, campaign professionals do not. But most important of all, we know what young people are looking for in a candidate. We're the gateway to a huge voting bloc that has gone untapped year after year. As 06 demonstrated, those candidates who actively reach out to college students will win more easily than those who do not. We'll certainly do lit drops and run phone banks, but if you want to win the student vote big, remember to pull up a chair for us.  


by CDA Dem on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:48:43 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (3.00 / 1)

Oh, absolutely. Hell, I consider Nebraska Young Democrats in general and UNO College Democrats in particular a model of exactly that. Jim Esch's campaign reached out to young people across the city of Omaha, and as a result he had the strongest grassroots campaign this state has seen in decades. There was a lot of animosity and some outright hostility between us and the state party a couple of years ago, but I feel that we've earned their respect, because YDs deserve a fair amount of credit for the resurgence of the Democratic Party in Nebraska.


Further Reading
by Dave Sund on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:56:09 PM EST
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Control (none / 0)

That's why campaigns that are smart will cede message control to the locals . . . if you let peers talk to each other in their own language, then you will see real involvement.  

Otherwise it is just so much fake pandering that will turn people away from your candidacy.


Youth to Power
by Mike Connery on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:57:28 PM EST
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Obama is a classic Populist! n/t (none / 0)


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by wegerje on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:45:16 PM EST

Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (3.00 / 2)

If anyone's interested in seeing how the College Democrats of America (CDA) are utilizing new technology to mobilize young people, check out CDA TV. CDA is making an unprecedented effort to galvanize youth involvement in the political process by capitalizing on innovative communications tools.
by CT Progressive on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 01:57:25 PM EST

Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

Please take this constructively, but those CDA TV vids are not good.  They are not at all culturally in tune with their target audience.

Some friendly advice:

  • Creative Commons is your friend if you are looking for good background music.
  • When you cut out the interview questions, you move from intimate interview to infomercial pretty rapidly.
  • Talking about tort class and being on conference calls - and not sounding totally thrilled about it - does not make me want to join the College Democrats.  I'm guessing it's pretty out of touch culturally for your audience as well.

I'm going to write a whole piece about this on Future Majority this weekend.  It's a great idea on the part of the College Dems, but it needs a lot of work.


Youth to Power
by Mike Connery on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:17:18 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

I took a look at CDA TV too - and I don't necessarily agree. They can definitely be worked on but I think they're a pretty good start. And I think that torts stuff actually sorta humanizes Ms. Wolfe. She seems like she's on the ball and from my memories of College Democrats from forever, they've always been kinda stale and I've never seen them this interactive before.

Plus some of the other videos they have on that site are pretty damn cool - the "treadmill" ad with the kid falling off at the end is a GREAT concept - and you can tell it's not done by professionals with expensive equipment.


by ALancaster on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:48:29 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

I agree, the treadmill ad is good.  Much more the sort of stuff they should be creating, I think.

If you think about it though, the job of the College Democrats is go galvanize their peers to become involved in politics.  To me, the interview with Ms. Wolfe just emphasized all the reasons I didn't get involved with the College Dems when I was an undergrad.

She had a chance to talk about programs, give a sneak peak at the inner workings of CDA (which, to be sure, is a fairly opaque organization to those not on the inside).  If she had done that, I'd be engaged.  I hope that future videos do focus more on  connecting culturally to their peers and/or giving an insiders look into what CDA actually does and how it relates to the larger progressive movement/Democratic Party.


Youth to Power
by Mike Connery on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:03:29 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

I like that treadmill ad too. It looks more professional than many political ads. As for the stuff they shot in front of that DNC sign, I think they're actually pretty good and get the point across - they also look to me like "update" videos for folks who are already involved and are looking for something a little more visual from their national organization.

Also I think it's tough to expect college students (who from my view obviously don't have really nice camera equipment) to do MTV-style stuff that is 100% in-touch with "regular kids." College Democrats don't have a candidate to rally or glorify, and I suspect that these folks don't get paid to do what they do.

I say keep up to good work - definitely heed some of the advice but it's a great start. If college kids ESPECIALLY Dems can get this started and get virally involved - it'll be a great step for media management in their generation.


by southarddem on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:40:53 PM EST
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CDA TV (none / 0)

They do look like "update" videos - that's true. Sort of almost an assumption that the people who are watching are already involved. I don't think that's necessarily bad - and if they are updates for state or chapter leadres then I think they work.

I do agree with Mike though in terms of CDA TV giving out a general message to young people about "why you should get involved." But who knows? Maybe they're working on that right now. Certainly a much larger task than updating already involved students I'd imagine.

That treadmill ad should be the creative approach they take though - for folks who haven't seen it, it's good, here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Fm-ONj6 nE


by ALancaster on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:50:09 PM EST
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Re: CDA TV (3.00 / 1)

I think you have to be on some serious sedatives to enjoy this youTube site.

I'm 25. I'm politically involved, and I can stomach the MyDD dorkiness because this is how the politcal insider-types do it.

But when people my age organize, I expect them to be a little more culturally tuned in, not a younger version of politics as usual.

I agree with mike whole-heartedly on this one, and I think you'd do well to consider his advice.


by Mark Ristaino on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 05:35:51 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

'll apologize in advance for being cynical, but I must say you seem to be attempting to disparage the College Democrats in order to promote your own organization.   This isn't what the progressive movement is about. There's plenty of opportunity for various youth organizations to contribute to progressive change.  
 
The College Democrats took the initiative to use online video to disseminate their message.   They should be commended for this effort.   If you truly have "constructive criticism," consider sending an email to their technology people.  But don't denigrate their effort and insinuate how you will properly address this idea in order to advance your own organization.  
by JMW on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 05:00:15 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

I think your accusation is off base here bud.

and i don't think anyone should be "commended" for a poorly executed outreach tactic. We're all on this site because we want the same thing: a legitimate progressive majority and positive change. That means we need to be better than everyone else, and that means we have to be immensely critical of ourselves.

that being said, why would we send criticism to their tech people? the leaders of the org are responsible for its vision, feel and communications. The tech guy just makes things happen.


by Mark Ristaino on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 05:42:22 PM EST
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Re: CDA TV (none / 0)

dude "to be on some serious sedatives" is not critical introspection, that's just trying to find a clever way to knock someone. I liked the site but hey if you feel the need to criticize then you should probably take a look at all the youtube channels Democratic presidential candidates have up. Obama's isn't that great at all. Edwards's videos are so botched that you can't hear half of what he says. Hillary doesn't even have one.

So who on the youth/college level that's a Dem organization has something comparable to the MTV quality stuff you would prefer? Campus Progress? Young Democrats of America? Do you have an example of politics done right? Or are you here to just criticize for the sake of doing it?

Level your criticism fairly. It's a huge step in the right direction and hopefully other groups will do the same.


by ALancaster on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:56:05 PM EST
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Re: CDA TV (none / 0)

Campus Progress' Debt hits hard is a step in the right direction.

this is a cool GOTV video done by The League of Pissed Off Voters in '04.

And of course there's more. I'm sorry if i sounded rude, but I don't get the purpose of these videos? I'm a white, middle class young democrat and they don't appeal to me. Imagine if I were black or latino?

Help me understand, pls, because I want to. Whenever I see the young dems roll out communications campaigns, it seems like they're always culturally completely tuned-out. I don't get who the young dems appeal to? What's the strategy behind it all?

I'd really like to understand.


by Mark Ristaino on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 03:57:25 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'll tell you that wasn't my intention.

I wrote that in the middle of the work day and didn't have time to put down all of my thoughts in a well laid out manner.  I think that the commenter and the College Dems both deserve a more thorough response than what I gave in my initial comment, which was more critique than proposal of thoughtful solutions.  My intention was purely to let folks know that at a (not too much) later date I would be offering thoughtful, affirmative solutions that I think could make the videos better.

Because that's the whole point - to make them as good as they possibly can be.  College Dems are/can be a large piece of our infrastructure for reaching  Millennials (a group which, at 28, I belong to). I want to make them as effective as possible, and reaching young voters in a culturally relevant way happens to be something I've got a lot of experience with. So I think I've got something to offer.

And I did commend them for the effort.  I said that I thought it was a great idea, but that with some work could be a whole lot more effective.  I also noted  in a later comment  that I thought the "treadmill" video was a step in the right direction.


Youth to Power
by Mike Connery on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:16:26 PM EST
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Re: Some constructive criticism (none / 0)

Thanks, Mike, for your clarification


by JMW on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:59:31 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive YEAH BUT (none / 0)

The young political junkies are impressive but as to the rest of the youth population....they don't vote.

If you want votes you better start working with older people and stop alienating them..they vote.

JD


by jd2 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:03:43 PM EST

Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive YEAH BUT (3.00 / 2)

Actually, that's just not true. Young people have turned out in record numbers for the past two election cycles.


by CDA Dem on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:18:42 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive YEAH BUT (none / 0)

And young people were the only age demographic that Kerry won. Young folks turned out and went strongly democratic during the 2006 midterm election too.


by Quinton on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:36:07 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive YEAH BUT (3.00 / 2)

Dude.

It's not 1968. Energizing young voters doesn't mean you need to "alienate" older americans.

And what the other people said: young people DO vote, and they're among the most progressive demographics which is a real and welcome change from the past 20 years, which saw the GOP gaining traction, peaking with Bush and Gore polling dead-even in 2000.


Me | My Work | Future Majority
by Josh Koenig on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:35:16 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (none / 0)

In LA, 330 people were organized within 5 days to come out to a meetup for Barack.

It is like two entirely different campaigns, one inside the establishment, and one completely outside.


by dday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 05:14:53 PM EST

Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (none / 0)

Within the establishment isn't really an accurate description.  One is traditional and top down, while the other is outside, grassroots, very bottom up.  If Obama is successful (and this will be a challenge), he might create a blue print for all future dem candidates... two seperate campaigns designed to gain activist support and the low info voters who respond to the top down campaigns.


by yitbos96bb on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:37:58 PM EST
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Re: The Young 'Uns Are Impressive (none / 0)

Actually, the hands-off approach of the 'outside' campaign is a brilliant application of anarchic principles, with little cells of organised activity held together by slender but effective lines of communication and a common purpose.  I am not sure if it was planned or will be sustained as such but it is working brilliantly and is progressive, to say the least, like benign Communards trying to get someone elected president.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:19:34 PM EST
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